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blind
09-19-2008, 02:24 AM
Chapter is out, grab it here (http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/417/01/).

Send me ideas for poll.

Beholder
09-19-2008, 02:57 AM
aww man,cant wait for the next chapters...like the new team though!

FbiHitman
09-19-2008, 03:09 AM
Lol, the new team is gunna fight sasuke. Hmmm there never win

ANBUMike
09-19-2008, 03:10 AM
I wonder where Naruto will go next...

Save Konoha from Pain?

Or go save Sasuke?

blind
09-19-2008, 03:11 AM
Lol, the new team is gunna fight sasuke. Hmmm there never win

Seems like it, although if there's a team coming, I get the feeling Madara will go help, he did say they were just going to wait for Pein, not much else for him to do.

FerN
09-19-2008, 03:16 AM
Ja, Madara is waiting for Pein, so he probably didnt go to Konoha, and the meeting of the 5 Kages still has to happen. The meeting will bring Gaara and the Huuyga and more into the picture again. I wonder how Naruto will perform with the sage arts perfected?

raugaj08_
09-19-2008, 03:30 AM
it'll be interesting for madara to show up as the mizukage in the summit...

Liquid
09-19-2008, 03:51 AM
it'll be interesting for madara to show up as the mizukage in the summit...

Good point. For some reason I had it in my head that he was a former mizukage or something. That would be an interesting meeting indeed.

NarutoforHokage
09-19-2008, 03:52 AM
a lot of things kinda made me think on this chapter. First of all, Naruto is going to be done with his training next chapter? I was really hoping he would learn some other techniques besides just obtaining more chakra. Secondly, It seems Sasuke is already losing his vision after using his MS only a few times. Im thinking Sasukes new technique causes a lot of recoil back on his sight. Lastly, what did the Raikage mean about Konaha getting rid of the Hyuuga? That really makes the elders look bad if the other countries know about them trying to rid themselves of Hyuuga and us just finding out about the Uchia genocide. Well im still hoping Naruto will opt to stay with Pa Frog for more training till Konaha actually calls him back and then that way he'll learn a few more wind/water techniques

8thHokage
09-19-2008, 03:59 AM
he meant that when neji's dad(or hinata's dad) killed a cloud nin the cloud ninjas demanded blood so neji's dad was killed as a sign of good will

NarutoforHokage
09-19-2008, 04:03 AM
he meant that when neji's dad(or hinata's dad) killed a cloud nin the cloud ninjas demanded blood so neji's dad was killed as a sign of good will

oooooo ok thanks for the clarification makes more sense now.

SpikeUchiha
09-19-2008, 04:04 AM
the cloud village being kidnappers they went for hinata.And lied about it, even after peace treaties..it's coming back to haunt them. if madara is at the kage meeting maybe we will see his face..cuz if he shows up in his mask they'll know him out in no time..kiba and aka should know his scent also..

8thHokage
09-19-2008, 04:04 AM
no problem

i wonder how tsunade will break the news to sakura naruto and the rest of the leaf village that sasuke has joined forces with akatsuki......

NarutoforHokage
09-19-2008, 04:09 AM
thats a good question. well Sakura will probably cry like usual and Naruto will just get even more determined to turn him good. But i think the rest of the village will be against the fact bringing Sasuke back to Konaha now that he has turned to the dark side.

8thHokage
09-19-2008, 04:11 AM
yeah i wonder if we'll see the raikage fight...he's gotter be even stronger than killer bee hehe i sense a epic fight with kisame or even*hopes* zetsu or madara

SpikeUchiha
09-19-2008, 04:14 AM
thats a good question. well Sakura will probably cry like usual and Naruto will just get even more determined to turn him good. But i think the rest of the village will be against the fact bringing Sasuke back to Konaha now that he has turned to the dark side.

lol it kinda like the force unleashed...starkiller and sasuke are alike sith lightning chidori flow, killed dad, killed brother..is kishi playing wii while makin the manga???

raugaj08_
09-19-2008, 05:08 AM
have a question for everyone yeah:

why is madara so interested in sasuke...

I realised recently that zetsu had revealed himself after the fight between sasuke and naruto at the valley of the end... was madara interested in sasuke back then... did he make zetsu record the fight like how he recoreded the fight between sasuke and itachi...
madara like oro seems to really want sasuke... must be hes emoness lol

Frog Hermit
09-19-2008, 05:37 AM
cmon sasuke take itachis eyes already, im sure madara's got em stored in a jar somewhere for him. since they took his dead body off the uchiha meeting place, what is this new power sasuke talks about, already seen his two jutsus, amaterasu and the MS freezing jutsu, how come jiraiya did'nt know about a bijuu being able to help in breaking genjutsu from the inside, thats priceless. naruto's gotta learn that one, and the reason he's progressing so fast is because he's not the goof we used to know(well maybe a little bit), remember, he perfected rasengan in a week and did nature and shape manipulation at the same time, something even yondaime could'nt do, and now there is no doubt that he is the destined child, the character in the story is definitely naruto and not because of the same names, its cuz they both use shadow clones and these predictions about the book and the D child have already been made. im getting bored of hebi, sasuke needs to ditch them and become a GOD, while naruto is already on his way. raikage seems like the person to die early in this manga and this new team whoever they are, they werent stronger than killerbee and we all know how that ended.

papfles
09-19-2008, 05:45 AM
w00t, excellent chapter.

- Raikage taking things into his own hands and apparently sending out a very good team to deal with it.

- kage summit

- hyuuga issue that kishi will need to deal with (unless it's that skirmish where they tried to to kidnap one of those, then it's settled).

- Sasuke feeling the strain already

- That new team rocks (as I hoped in the prediction threads). They will surely become a nice new addition (and already my favourite girl in this manga :p)

Murdock
09-19-2008, 05:53 AM
cmon sasuke take itachis eyes already, im sure madara's got em stored in a jar somewhere for him. since they took his dead body off the uchiha meeting place, what is this new power sasuke talks about, already seen his two jutsus, amaterasu and the MS freezing jutsu, how come jiraiya did'nt know about a bijuu being able to help in breaking genjutsu from the inside, thats priceless. naruto's gotta learn that one, and the reason he's progressing so fast is because he's not the goof we used to know(well maybe a little bit), remember, he perfected rasengan in a week and did nature and shape manipulation at the same time, something even yondaime could'nt do, and now there is no doubt that he is the destined child, the character in the story is definitely naruto and not because of the same names, its cuz they both use shadow clones and these predictions about the book and the D child have already been made. im getting bored of hebi, sasuke needs to ditch them and become a GOD, while naruto is already on his way. raikage seems like the person to die early in this manga and this new team whoever they are, they werent stronger than killerbee and we all know how that ended.


Imo Madara want Sasuke to have EMS so then Madara can take his EMS and his own and fuse it and thus far getting the strongest super EMS ;) ... i wouldn't be surprised ... Kishi is pulling Sharingan mysteries right out of his a$$

and for J-Man it's quite possible that Kishi didn't think about it that time same with Kagebunshin ability he just made them after that

br4nd0nh347
09-19-2008, 05:56 AM
Sasuke is not winning against the new team or Raikage.
His eyes are going to go out, and then Madara(or whoever he really is) will same them. (Sasuke gets his brother's eyes, hopefully)
Naruto will beat Pain
Someone beat that paper girl, Sakura? Kakashi? Tsunade?
Akatsuki will go after Naruto

papfles
09-19-2008, 05:57 AM
and for J-Man it's quite possible that Kishi didn't think about it that time same with Kagebunshin ability he just made them after that


@ Frog Hermit:
Jiraiya doesn't exactly have extensive knowledge on jinchuuriki's... Naruto is the first he has had under his tutelage. You can't expect him to know every single bit of it.

Naruto has trouble controlling the bijuu as it is now, you can't demand of him to be able to control it to the point where it can dispell genjutsu for him. (especially since he has told the kyuubi to F off and leave him to do his own thing).

Naruto (for the time being) LIMITS his use of the kyuubi as he doesn't have enough control.

Seems rather obvious to me :$

(Sasuke gets his brother's eyes, hopefully)

yeah hopefully, he needs another freebie...

the lost shinobi
09-19-2008, 06:34 AM
yeah hopefully, he needs another freebie...

unfortunately thats what seems to be happening. He was happy in this chapter because he learned how to use Amaterasu, but now he's noticing the consequences of MS use. Maybe not now but soon, I see Sasuke going to Madara and having Madara implant Itachi's eyes within his body. Sasuke is smart enough to realize that degraded eyesight is very big hindrance in a fight.

This chapter was really good. I was kind of confused over Raikage's statement of Konoha dealing with the Hyuuga fast enough. Am I missing something. As far as I know the Hyuuga didn't have a renegade genius member. That statement I feel is indicative of something.

I also find it interesting that Akatsuki isn't allowing Taka to aid them in the sealing process, yet they allow Taka to walk around with Akatsuki robes.

Raikage is one huge dude. If you didn't notice the first look again. Dude has insane arms. I enjoy this 5 Kage summit idea. Makes you wonder why this hasn't occurred earlier. The team he dispatched also seems like one of those dysfunctional yet hidden badass we-were-once-ANBU-members type of team. When push comes to shove, they seem like they will shove hard. Been a while since new characters have been introduced. It was refreshing.

As for Naruto's training, I like the method Fukasaku came up with, with the balancing. I would love to see Naruto balance himself. kid can't sit still if his life depended on it, and right now it literally does.

great chapter IMHO. best in a long while

,,,^.^,,,
09-19-2008, 06:57 AM
Judging from the speed of the last chapter the next one might be the end of naruto. But in all honesty i'd like it to slow back down and just be naruto training.

FlipSide
09-19-2008, 07:38 AM
This chapter was really good. I was kind of confused over Raikage's statement of Konoha dealing with the Hyuuga fast enough. Am I missing something. As far as I know the Hyuuga didn't have a renegade genius member. That statement I feel is indicative of something.

great chapter IMHO. best in a long while

I think that Raikage referred to the fact that when their head shinobi was killed while trying to obduct hinata, konoha sent Hizashi (or what was his name) instead of Hinata's dead to prevent them from getting the secrets of Byakugan.

sasuke123uchiha
09-19-2008, 07:43 AM
it's a good chapter but sasuke loosing his eyesite when he just got the ms is just lame

FerN
09-19-2008, 07:51 AM
Yes, they sacrificed Neji's dad to save Hinata's father for the good of the main branch. Remember the whole story while Naruto and Neji did battle in the chuunin exam. I think that the Raikage will notice this and then there will be a war between the two countries.

,,,^.^,,,
09-19-2008, 08:10 AM
i dont think there will be a war between just the two countries if there is a war coming. Also how could Raikage know of a secret plan that the hyuuga executed. All he would know is that konoha ordered the body of the hyuuga leader to be delivered if that is indeed what he's talking about.

papfles
09-19-2008, 08:35 AM
it's a good chapter but sasuke loosing his eyesite when he just got the ms is just lame

No it isn't :-/

We have no idea how fast the decline in the eyes would be. All we know is that using MS creates eyestrain. And EVERY time we've seen him use his MS, we clearly see the strain on the eyes, followed by blood, meaning it's exhausting them.

Even just showing his MS when talking to Madara (in the flashback) contained strained eyes...

chopra
09-19-2008, 08:47 AM
who exactly is tobi/madara carrying?
8tails?
Sasuke went to pass madara the body? or zetsu did it?

wind33
09-19-2008, 08:50 AM
My prediction is that next chapter will be focused on Naruto's training...Having him finish up sage arts or at least learning how to draw it in...But I don't believe that's all you need to know in order to master it...Drawing it in is probably just the first step...He needs to first learn how to draw it in faster because in a battle the enemy isn't going to just let you sit still and concentrate so their has to be more to it...

With regard to Sauske I think that he's realizing that using his new ability has a heavy price and that he'll eventually need Itachi's eyes before he goes blind...

The Riakage sounds like he's a lousy parent, obviously not respected by his own kids...But maybe that because he pushes them so hard to be really good shinobi...I think that that team will be a force to reckon with...It seems like the shonobi's with the most non-chalante attitudes are always the best fighters...

I don't know what will become of the kage summit...seems Kanoha will find out that Sauske is apart of Akatsuki and they'll have to some explaining to do about why they haven't sent someone to kill Sauske yet...I wonder what Tsundae will come up with...And now that we know that there's going to be a Kage summit it's probably safe to say that Tsundae will live for a while...or can we?

papfles
09-19-2008, 09:02 AM
The Riakage sounds like he's a lousy parent, obviously not respected by his own kids..

how do you come to this conclusion? :-/

And now that we know that there's going to be a Kage summit it's probably safe to say that Tsundae will live for a while...or can we?

unfortunately no, since another kage was murdered right before the Chuunin exams.

JD021
09-19-2008, 09:34 AM
Short hair ninja girl on page 17 is sexy lol..i cant waitr to see all the kages in one place but doesnt akutsuki run the hidden rain?/ so whos the Mizukage??? and is garra in good enough condition to even make a move after he lost most of his powers?

the lost shinobi
09-19-2008, 09:41 AM
Short hair ninja girl on page 17 is sexy lol..i cant waitr to see all the kages in one place but doesnt akutsuki run the hidden rain?/ so whos the Mizukage??? and is garra in good enough condition to even make a move after he lost most of his powers?

Yep Madara is the Mizukage. Which should be intresting come the Kage summit. It'll show us how exactly he is hiding his identity from the other Kages. Whether he's using advanced genjutsu, or simply a double to put up a front. Either way it should be interesting to see the Kage summit.

As for Gaara. Kishi confirmed that he lost his Shukaku but his ability to control Sand has not been removed. I think Gaara has had sufficient time to recover from his ordeal. He should be good to go, and I would love to see him fight again. Although that is unlikely, seeing as how a Kage will only fight if his/her villiage is in severe danger

JD021
09-19-2008, 09:47 AM
ha i really want to see gaara fight again also its been wayyyyyy too long

& another thing im wondering is how the hell is madara still alive also if hes hiding his identity (oh never mind i jus answered that question myself) but i was going to say if hes hiding his self how could he be the mizukage but i remembered the hidden rain has crazy heavy surveillance over their country prof of that was shown when pervy sage entered up in there.. plus they have pain guarding that shit like a god so i could see madara still playing mr Mizu. i cant wait what the next few weeks have to offer

Murdock
09-19-2008, 10:03 AM
@ Frog Hermit:
Jiraiya doesn't exactly have extensive knowledge on jinchuuriki's...

ok so why he didn't tell him about Kagebunshin training ... it woul come handy when they spent some time training and so on .. and don'T come up with the idea of him teaching him something different ... this is Naruto signature move he should told him about that

the lost shinobi
09-19-2008, 10:15 AM
ok so why he didn't tell him about Kagebunshin training ... it woul come handy when they spent some time training and so on .. and don'T come up with the idea of him teaching him something different ... this is Naruto signature move he should told him about that

Jiraiya spent most of his time teaching Naruto the basics of being a ninja and how to control his chakra flow because of the fourth's seal. Before his 2.5 years with Jiraiya Naruto was an atrocious ninja.

Also the KB method of training is unique to Naruto. And Kakashi even said that he doesn't think anyone else has trained using this method. So I attribute jiraiya not knowing of this method because simply no one had ever done it before

papfles
09-19-2008, 10:18 AM
ok so why he didn't tell him about Kagebunshin training ... it woul come handy when they spent some time training and so on .. and don'T come up with the idea of him teaching him something different ... this is Naruto signature move he should told him about that

So Jiraiya has to know everything that kakashi and others know?

Kakashi is a genious, that has been stated plenty of times. Jiraiya is the genious of hard work and labour (like Naruto is). There are bound to be things that Kakashi knows that Jiraiya won't know and vice versa.

It's stupid to think that Jiraiya should've known everything that others know.

By that regard, Sarutobi / Tsunade / Yamato and others are equally stupid and Shikamaru (and his entire clan) equally.

viewtifuldrew
09-19-2008, 10:30 AM
i for one cant wait to see some more kakashi!

Hellspawn0707
09-19-2008, 10:48 AM
This could be the perfect moment for Root to come now with the other Kage possibly putting pressure on Kohona for not properly dealing with a rogue ninja. Things could get quite troublesome for Sasuke.

JD021
09-19-2008, 10:48 AM
quick question who are all the Kages??
1. Fire - tsunade
2- Water- Madara
3- Lightning- killer bees brother
4- wind gaara
5- Earth - ??? (if anyone knows this one lemme kno plz)

papfles
09-19-2008, 10:59 AM
5- Earth - ??? (if anyone knows this one lemme kno plz)

He/She is unknown

Seraphiel
09-19-2008, 10:59 AM
w00t, excellent chapter.

- Raikage taking things into his own hands and apparently sending out a very good team to deal with it.

- kage summit

- hyuuga issue that kishi will need to deal with (unless it's that skirmish where they tried to to kidnap one of those, then it's settled).

- Sasuke feeling the strain already

- That new team rocks (as I hoped in the prediction threads). They will surely become a nice new addition (and already my favourite girl in this manga :p)

The cannon foder in them is strong.


Btw starkiller dies at the end :D

rasenproc
09-19-2008, 11:09 AM
well atleast saskue is goin blind but im sure somehow his hatred will stop it. i guess the book will be talked about in a flashback. naruto learns to control sage power next chapter and o boy... another saskue fight. cant wait.... not like we havent seen a million of those lately

Murdock
09-19-2008, 11:09 AM
Jiraiya spent most of his time teaching Naruto the basics of being a ninja and how to control his chakra flow because of the fourth's seal. Before his 2.5 years with Jiraiya Naruto was an atrocious ninja.

Also the KB method of training is unique to Naruto. And Kakashi even said that he doesn't think anyone else has trained using this method. So I attribute jiraiya not knowing of this method because simply no one had ever done it before


ok you're responding with the way isaid no to do it ... they work on Naruto's basic ... what's more bacis then his numero uno move? what can help him more in the battle than this?

So Jiraiya has to know everything that kakashi and others know?

Kakashi is a genious, that has been stated plenty of times. Jiraiya is the genious of hard work and labour (like Naruto is). There are bound to be things that Kakashi knows that Jiraiya won't know and vice versa.

It's stupid to think that Jiraiya should've known everything that others know.

By that regard, Sarutobi / Tsunade / Yamato and others are equally stupid and Shikamaru (and his entire clan) equally.

so everyone knew it even J-Man's master but not him? Yamato knows, Kakashi knows why? becuase Kishi said that Kagebunshin was made for scouting purposes ... so they knew ... Fugasaku knew but not J-Man? he was rated by 5 in Kishi's stats in ninjutsu ...

my explanation is that Kishi made it after that why is it so hard to believe it?

Arty
09-19-2008, 11:11 AM
Fire - Tsunade
Sand - Gaara
Rain - Pain
Lightning - Old Black Dude
Earth = Unkown.

rasenproc
09-19-2008, 11:12 AM
i wonder y naruto wasnt usin kb durin this training

ACPRO
09-19-2008, 11:12 AM
im probably gunna give it a guess and say that team is as powerful as kakashi, yamato, (other joinin) level.

But seriously though they all look pretty wicked. And not to mention the kage of there village is a lot bigger than i thought. Perhaps he specializes in earth element techniques as well.

i wonder y naruto wasnt usin kb durin this training



Hes tryig to learn sage chakra, how would kyuubi chakra help him with that lol?

blind
09-19-2008, 11:13 AM
Fire - Tsunade
Sand - Gaara
Rain - Pain
Lightning - Old Black Dude
Earth = Unkown.

Rain isn't one of the five shinobi villages, hence, Pein (if he's even considered the leader) isn't included in the five kages. Madara could have been the old Kage, he could very well have been replaced.

rasenproc
09-19-2008, 11:17 AM
i think hes been replaced. kisame has been around for a long time and im sure he left his village a long time ago so it makes sense for him to recognize the old mizukage IMO

Seraphiel
09-19-2008, 11:21 AM
About the poll option,Raikage was talking about Sandaime deciding that nejis dad should die.

There is a possibility he doesn't know Tsunade is the kage,or he is talking about konoha in general deciding on nejis dad to die.

rasenproc
09-19-2008, 11:23 AM
i think hes talking in general. i wonder how the summit will go... "AK is bad, lets get em"

Herumor
09-19-2008, 11:27 AM
Looks like they are going to have a Kage summit after all. Two new Kages will be introduced ^.^ Gaara returns ftw! I was happy to see more Naruto, as well as Sauske going blind already (though it does seem a bit soon, it makes you wonder how bad Itachi's sight really was).

Erotique
09-19-2008, 11:30 AM
i think hes talking in general. i wonder how the summit will go... "AK is bad, lets get em"

And as a seasoned veteran of deception, Madara will pull the strings once more, in a guise of a Mizukage amongst their rank.

A true Machiavellian... His deception is deeper than any other roots out there.

Seraphiel
09-19-2008, 11:33 AM
And as a seasoned veteran of deception, Madara will pull the strings once more, in a guise of a Mizukage amongst their rank.

A true Machiavellian... His deception is deeper than any other roots out there.

I agree.

Would be epic.

Hellspawn0707
09-19-2008, 11:36 AM
im probably gunna give it a guess and say that team is as powerful as kakashi, yamato, (other joinin) level.

But seriously though they all look pretty wicked. And not to mention the kage of there village is a lot bigger than i thought. Perhaps he specializes in earth element techniques as well.





Hes tryig to learn sage chakra, how would kyuubi chakra help him with that lol?

I think he was referring to Kage Bushin training, to speed it up by gaining expierence quicker.

,,,^.^,,,
09-19-2008, 11:57 AM
who exactly is tobi/madara carrying?
8tails?
Sasuke went to pass madara the body? or zetsu did it?

yeah, it was the 8 tails. they didnt show when he picked him up or whether it was him or zetsu. i dont think it was zetsu. his only role so far has been recon and clean up by eating the bodies. He wouldnt be Akatsuki if he wasnt very, very dangerous so we have yet to see.

Next chapter they'd be remiss if they didn't include what happened with naruto and the trade off of 8 tails to akatsuki.

And as a seasoned veteran of deception, Madara will pull the strings once more, in a guise of a Mizukage amongst their rank.

A true Machiavellian... His deception is deeper than any other roots out there.

I always considered Machiavelli more relevant for the leader who goes by 'the end justifies the means'. It's not malevolent in nature it's just the leader is always right sort of philosophy. I'd call him more the master of San Tsu: deception, manipulation, orchestration, mastur..... wait. Anyway, there is something menacing about him. Even if his stories are a hundred percent true, he still seems like he has ANOTHER secret agenda which involves most nothing but blood.

the lost shinobi
09-19-2008, 12:38 PM
ok you're responding with the way isaid no to do it ... they work on Naruto's basic ... what's more bacis then his numero uno move? what can help him more in the battle than this?



so everyone knew it even J-Man's master but not him? Yamato knows, Kakashi knows why? becuase Kishi said that Kagebunshin was made for scouting purposes ... so they knew ... Fugasaku knew but not J-Man? he was rated by 5 in Kishi's stats in ninjutsu ...

my explanation is that Kishi made it after that why is it so hard to believe it?

why is it so hard to believe that Kakashi had an idea that Jiraiya didn't. And I don't understand why you said not to answer your question with a certain answer. If that's what they did, that what they did. That is what J-man taught Naruto. Accept it don't tell us not to use it as an answer.

Valleyman
09-19-2008, 01:48 PM
Whoop-dee-doo.

A new set of small fry for Sasuke to defeat.

JD021
09-19-2008, 01:56 PM
i hope sasuke goes blind during the fight!!!

Valleyman
09-19-2008, 02:09 PM
Don't we all. Even then he'll probably pull something out of his ass that gives him the victory.

y.o.
09-19-2008, 02:14 PM
These chapters make me feel like I am nibbling on a hersey kiss, nible by excruciating nible!! I cant wait until the next one but the samething happens when I read the next chap, I guess thats the mark of a good story!!

Seraphiel
09-19-2008, 02:22 PM
Don't we all. Even then he'll probably pull something out of his ass that gives him the victory.
No we don't
These chapters make me feel like I am nibbling on a hersey kiss, nible by excruciating nible!! I cant wait until the next one but the samething happens when I read the next chap, I guess thats the mark of a good story!!

I agree,I can't w8 for the next one,especially since at the end it said that narutos sage training is over and the title will be Awakening,totally psyched.

y.o.
09-19-2008, 02:34 PM
I think the awakening is about sasukes new power he was refering too, my bet is on eternal mange!!

But what interested me more is the reference to the hyuuga made by the raikage!! Just everything going on in the thunder village period!!

Its about time naruto finished his training, I wonder why there was no more talk about that book!

Seraphiel
09-19-2008, 02:55 PM
I think the awakening is about sasukes new power he was refering too, my bet is on eternal mange!!

But what interested me more is the reference to the hyuuga made by the raikage!! Just everything going on in the thunder village period!!

Its about time naruto finished his training, I wonder why there was no more talk about that book!

Why it was prolly about nejis dad.

Murdock
09-19-2008, 03:01 PM
why is it so hard to believe that Kakashi had an idea that Jiraiya didn't. And I don't understand why you said not to answer your question with a certain answer. If that's what they did, that what they did. That is what J-man taught Naruto. Accept it don't tell us not to use it as an answer.

well yes he taught him to perfect his no.1 techinique KB without telling him what else it can do ... remeber J-Man said he will polished him with his KB and more ... he did that but didn'T told him more about his no1 technique?it's like i will teach you rasengan and won't tell what it can do ...

Naru-Ichi
09-19-2008, 03:07 PM
well yes he taught him to perfect his no.1 techinique KB without telling him what else it can do ... remeber J-Man said he will polished him with his KB and more ... he did that but didn'T told him more about his no1 technique?it's like i will teach you rasengan and won't tell what it can do ...

When did Jiraiya say that?

Anyways, he probably didn't think of training Naruto that way or maybe it was because he couldn't since he didn't have a way to keep the kyuubi in check.

y.o.
09-19-2008, 03:10 PM
Why it was prolly about nejis dad.

Na, neji's dad didnt leave the village and become a missing nin, he was refering to someone escaping and be hunted down and killed seems like to me since he said they took care of the hyuuga fast enough

Seraphiel
09-19-2008, 03:12 PM
Yes but they took care of the hyuga problem fast enough,it didn't necessarily have to be a missing nin.

Naru-Ichi
09-19-2008, 03:14 PM
Na, neji's dad didnt leave the village and become a missing nin, he was refering to someone escaping and be hunted down and killed seems like to me since he said they took care of the hyuuga fast enough

I actually think they were talking about Neji's dad. I mean there really isn't a point in bringing some hyuga into the story atm.

SpikeUchiha
09-19-2008, 03:42 PM
ok..if naruto has to be still in order to get sage mode..don't you think that would leave him an open target?

Rudy Beoulve
09-19-2008, 03:49 PM
Gah, I swear this is going to sound harsher than I wanted to, but some people really need to pay more attention to what they read. Or at least to draw better conclusions from it.

The hidden village involved in Hinata's kidnapping attempt was Kumogakure (Cloud), lead by the Raikage. Konoha then killed and handed a Hyuuga right away for the sake of peace. It's only normal that the Raikage thinks it's weird Konoha hasn't done anything yet to kill Sasuke. It's got NOTHING to with any new Hyuuga.

blind
09-19-2008, 04:47 PM
ok..if naruto has to be still in order to get sage mode..don't you think that would leave him an open target?

Well, during this training phase, of course it would leave him open, but think about when Jiraiya or Pa was using Sage chakra, they were moving. Plus, if he can only use sage mode without moving, it kind of defeats the purpose of teaching him sage technique.

Karin<3
09-19-2008, 05:05 PM
I wonder if Madara is still the Mizukage and if he will appear in the Kage meeting.

Sasuke Uchiha 4 Life
09-19-2008, 05:13 PM
Ja, Madara is waiting for Pein, so he probably didnt go to Konoha, and the meeting of the 5 Kages still has to happen. The meeting will bring Gaara and the Huuyga and more into the picture again. I wonder how Naruto will perform with the sage arts perfected?

Perhaps he meant when he ''supposly'' comes back with Naruto >_>?

steve
09-19-2008, 05:19 PM
Looks to me like Sasuke will finally stop using MS to make a point when hes talking to people....

rasenproc
09-19-2008, 05:40 PM
Looks to me like Sasuke will finally stop using MS to make a point when hes talking to people....

lol. it is a bit of a waste of his time with it. but now he'll have to get itachi's.... or kakashi's. i think that there was more to kakashi gaiden then just showin kakashi get his sharingon. he could just told us that in a flashback. kishi has shown tendencies to repeat himself so y not here. i think madara will kill kakashi and saskue will inherit his MS

Seraphiel
09-19-2008, 06:07 PM
lol. it is a bit of a waste of his time with it. but now he'll have to get itachi's.... or kakashi's. i think that there was more to kakashi gaiden then just showin kakashi get his sharingon. he could just told us that in a flashback. kishi has shown tendencies to repeat himself so y not here. i think madara will kill kakashi and saskue will inherit his MS

FFS ITS SHARINGAN!

People who say sharingon make hello kitty cry.

Now to move on,why would he take 1 of kakashis eyes when he can take 2 of Itachis.

,,,^.^,,,
09-19-2008, 06:14 PM
FFS ITS SHARINGAN!


Now to move on,why would he take 1 of kakashis eyes when he can take 2 of Itachis.

Mirno brate ;)

Otherwise QFT. He could take his bro's. Im not sure that he will though. Not out of principle but rather as annoying as it's become as a plot point.

blind
09-19-2008, 06:28 PM
Mirno brate ;)

Otherwise QFT. He could take his bro's. Im not sure that he will though. Not out of principle but rather as annoying as it's become as a plot point.

I think the fact that Madara offered it to him makes it pretty much inevitable that it's going to happen, it's just a matter of time. Now that he realizes his eyes are starting to go bad, he might panic and remember what Itachi said about EMS, and that it allows the user to use MS all they like, which is what Sasuke intends to do.

,,,^.^,,,
09-19-2008, 06:29 PM
I think the fact that Madara offered it to him makes it pretty much inevitable that it's going to happen, it's just a matter of time. Now that he realizes his eyes are starting to go bad, he might panic and remember what Itachi said about EMS, and that it allows the user to use MS all they like, which is what Sasuke intends to do.

i hope you're right. how cool would it be to see ems. I mean annoying for sasuke to get ANOTHER freebe but still.... EMS!

winchester20
09-19-2008, 07:47 PM
I thought it was cheap as hell not to mention anything about the book Naruto read.

And I took Sasuke's thought about his "new power" to simply be that he's realized he can not only cast Amaterasu, but can stop it at will as well. I mean, one zap of Ama brought down the great 8 tails. Sasuke would figure he could just go and blast Konoha with Ama and that'd be all she wrote.

And I also think it's only a matter of time before he gets Itachi's eyes. He's not gonna go blind. He's got to kill and destroy too many people for that to happen.

ACPRO
09-19-2008, 08:06 PM
I thought it was cheap as hell not to mention anything about the book Naruto read.

And I took Sasuke's thought about his "new power" to simply be that he's realized he can not only cast Amaterasu, but can stop it at will as well. I mean, one zap of Ama brought down the great 8 tails. Sasuke would figure he could just go and blast Konoha with Ama and that'd be all she wrote.

And I also think it's only a matter of time before he gets Itachi's eyes. He's not gonna go blind. He's got to kill and destroy too many people for that to happen.

once again i doubt it will be itatchi's eyes he will get. HE will more than likley take madaras eyes, obviously madara will resist, and sasuke may kill him. Or you never know maybe mardara will offer them willingly for a price.

blind
09-19-2008, 08:41 PM
once again i doubt it will be itatchi's eyes he will get. HE will more than likley take madaras eyes, obviously madara will resist, and sasuke may kill him. Or you never know maybe mardara will offer them willingly for a price.

For someone that's "immortal", it definitely wouldn't make sense for him to just give up his eyes like that. If Sasuke even tries to take Madara's eyes, Madara will kill him.

Naru-Ichi
09-19-2008, 09:08 PM
once again i doubt it will be itatchi's eyes he will get. HE will more than likley take madaras eyes, obviously madara will resist, and sasuke may kill him. Or you never know maybe mardara will offer them willingly for a price.

LOL this is just stupid. Why would he take Madara's eyes when he can get Itachi's without having to fight and potentially get killed by Madara?

Itachi_the_Feared_One
09-19-2008, 09:39 PM
I've got a prediction that's likely going to happen given the current situation of cloud country, the Kage summit will probably take place in konoha, earth, fire wind, cloud and mist country will be part of the summit.

Raikage will cause a stir among his fire and wind counterparts, when he reveals sasuke involvement with Akatsuki in capturing the 8 tails, Kakashi steps in and denys raikage claim by revealing that himself had encountered during their last mission an akatsuki member other than Sasuke and Itachi that posseses Sharingan.
That revelation will cause fear among danzou and the elders for obvious reasons....and force Tsunade to cooperate with raikage, who already sent an assasin squad to kill Sasuke and retrieve the jinchirruki. ( it seems that sasuke's has earned another cool title "the most wanted criminal in the 5 five nations")

I think the summit will result in a big failure as Tsunade will interfere with cloud intentions, because of the conflict of interests she will lose the Danzou/Elders support........seems that another ninja war is innevitable, while in the Aka hideout Zetsu and Tobi discussing how things are smoothely going according to plan.

jejeje
09-19-2008, 10:13 PM
Yeea i think every1s gonna try to kill sasuke.. bu i think they're jus gonna get knocked down by naruto....:fencing:

I hope next chapter is like this1... more naruto less sasuke:biggrin1:

Stucakes
09-19-2008, 10:21 PM
[l Sasuke and retrieve the jinchirruki. ( it seems that sasuke's has earned another cool title "the most wanted criminal in the 5 five nations")

That kinda is a cool title.
I dont know why this is any different than Aka capping any of the other jinchurikis. Is this one just special becuase one of the kages got mad and is call ing a council?

Naru-Ichi
09-19-2008, 10:23 PM
I think it would be good to have the summit somewhere else then when Tsunade returns, Pein has wiped out most of the ninjas there :D.

018798
09-19-2008, 11:03 PM
question, i thort pein was the only one who could summon the sealing statue.

but aside from that this was one of the best chapters so far and looks like naruto mastered another technique that usually takes years in a week was it lol and yea i predict when pein attacks konoha naruto destroys his six bodies, but peins real body nagato will still be out their and bide his time until madara falls and pein and kabuchimaru will be the last final bosses to vs

Spirit-Sage
09-19-2008, 11:46 PM
Oh! I wana see the 5 kages get together :), also stucakes your sig is hilarious and true "give me back my manga!"

As for predictions, uh..the hyuga are going to become..a LITTLE more important, the byakugan just never got enough air time as one of the "three great doujutus"

blind
09-19-2008, 11:47 PM
question, i thort pein was the only one who could summon the sealing statue.


Pein is the only one that can initiate the sealing jutsu, but it's never been stated that he's the only one that can summon the statue.

We'll probably see more Sasuke next chapter.

IAmWoof
09-19-2008, 11:53 PM
Sasuke is slowly but surely failing. And then Kishi is gonna feel sorry for him and keep boring us with his plotline for another year.

raugaj08_
09-20-2008, 01:11 AM
Pein is the only one that can initiate the sealing jutsu, but it's never been stated that he's the only one that can summon the statue.

true, but I have a feeling that it has something to do with the rings, ie pein's 'zero' ring is needed to initiate the sealing jutsu... it could also be that madara, zetsu and kisame are not enough to seal the eight tails by themselves...

winchester20
09-20-2008, 05:38 AM
I've got a prediction that's likely going to happen given the current situation of cloud country, the Kage summit will probably take place in konoha, earth, fire wind, cloud and mist country will be part of the summit.

Raikage will cause a stir among his fire and wind counterparts, when he reveals sasuke involvement with Akatsuki in capturing the 8 tails, Kakashi steps in and denys raikage claim by revealing that himself had encountered during their last mission an akatsuki member other than Sasuke and Itachi that posseses Sharingan.
That revelation will cause fear among danzou and the elders for obvious reasons....and force Tsunade to cooperate with raikage, who already sent an assasin squad to kill Sasuke and retrieve the jinchirruki. ( it seems that sasuke's has earned another cool title "the most wanted criminal in the 5 five nations")

I think the summit will result in a big failure as Tsunade will interfere with cloud intentions, because of the conflict of interests she will lose the Danzou/Elders support........seems that another ninja war is innevitable, while in the Aka hideout Zetsu and Tobi discussing how things are smoothely going according to plan.

I like everything but the prediction of Tsunade causing the summit to crash and burn. As much as she feels for Naruto and Sakura, she's not gonna risk the safety of the village/country for them by trying to undermine the Raikage's efforts. I think she's gonna send Kakashi and Sakura with a team out after Sasuke and the 8 tails and try to get them before anyone else does, thus saving Sasuke from the wrath of the other nations and calming the Raikage down somewhat. I mean, we still haven't seen the focus on those 2 yet that we know is coming. This would be a perfect way I think to get that focus on them, and also have them both away from Konoha when Pein attacks, cause I just don't see how either one of them would sit back and let Tsunade fight and get killed without jumping in themselves to lend a hand (against Pein). Having them gone when she dies will be a great deal more traumatic to both K and S.

once again i doubt it will be itatchi's eyes he will get. HE will more than likley take madaras eyes, obviously madara will resist, and sasuke may kill him. Or you never know maybe mardara will offer them willingly for a price.

And I believe that in order for the eye-switching technique to get EMS to work, you must be closely related, as in siblings. I could be mistaken but pretty sure that's been stated a couple times.

JD021
09-20-2008, 10:11 AM
4th ninja war coming??? that would be insane.. like honestly i cant even comment on this anymore theres so many fights that i want to see happen and that ninja war would make it perfect also wed get to kno about the other countries that we've never seen.. im hype for that

Lizard
09-20-2008, 10:27 AM
I'm waiting to see Gaara.. That guy was actually pretty cool.
Until he was beaten by Naruto. That made him the lamest guy ever. =/

JD021
09-20-2008, 10:31 AM
i think him losing to dedoria(spelling) was the lamest thing ever

Lizard
09-20-2008, 11:00 AM
Deidara was at least an S-rank Akatsuki member, Naruto was a genin noob with one ninjutsu.
Same will be with Pein and Madara.
They'll evolve into ultimate weaklings.

ChillO
09-20-2008, 11:13 AM
Kage summit will be epic. Possible deaths if things dont go akatsukis way and offcourse they will try and stear things in their favor.

Sand and Konoha on one side and mist and rain on the other. This new kage who of the kages will he believe? There is a possible 3 on 2 here, either in a fight or a way of handling their problems. Im affraid both will be in the favor of Akatsuki. Thats just how manga works :P looking forward to it :fencing:. If i where akatsuki i would take this opertunity to take out all the kages. and with Pain and Madara at the summit I dont see that as far fetched.

JD021
09-20-2008, 11:30 AM
that would b hot but of course a real epic battle would be before all those kages die cause i have no doubt that they're extremly strong or else their whole village would have overthrown them..

i think this ninja war would murder Bleachs Winter war

Naru-Ichi
09-20-2008, 11:31 AM
Deidara was at least an S-rank Akatsuki member, Naruto was a genin noob with one ninjutsu.
Same will be with Pein and Madara.
They'll evolve into ultimate weaklings.

Gaara was a genin too. I really don't understand your problem with Naruto beating people. I mean at least he doesn't give powers handed to him.

that would b hot but of course a real epic battle would be before all those kages die cause i have no doubt that they're extremly strong or else their whole village would have overthrown them.

Why would their village overthrow them? I mean if the whole village wanted the kage to step down then all they have to do is gang up on him/her.

JD021
09-20-2008, 11:34 AM
itachi gave him power =X

but yeah like i said in another thread Naruto is a beast when it comes to fighting ever since he was a little kid

Naru-Ichi
09-20-2008, 11:37 AM
itachi gave him power =X

Well until we actually see what he gave Naruto then you really can't count it. Also, what he was given will probably only work when he fights Sasuke. When I talk about someone given powers I mean how Sasuke got CS and MS. The only thing that Naruto was given was Kyuubi.

Stucakes
09-20-2008, 12:16 PM
All Naruto has is the most powerfull kyubi in the manga..... thats all.... nothing big.
Lol! Im glad that Naruto beat Gaara becuase it made Gaara change. It's pretty awsome when he does the Kyubi Kb thing during their fight. When you first see Gaara you think "Wow, that guy is crazy evil and is never going to change" and then he does! it's an interesting plot twist that I never saw coming. = )

I think it's silly to argue about Sasuke haveing power handed to him and Naruto not, isn't that the whole point? Sasuke is a genuis and Naruto is a happy go lucky kid that never gives up. Geniuses don't work hard for their power they are born with it. They can improve what they have but what they start with is just natural.

Anyway :focus:
I like Winchesters prediction becuase it involves Kakashi and Sakura.
I predict that pain comes and trashes Konaho and kills Tsunude and Kakashi becomes kage and goes in her place to the meeting with Sakura and Shikomaru as advisors

Naru-Ichi
09-20-2008, 12:31 PM
All Naruto has is the most powerfull kyubi in the manga..... thats all.... nothing big.

I think you mean bijuu. Anyways, how good is it to have kyuubi if he can't control it and he can potentially hurt everyone around along with shortening his lifespan.

SpikeUchiha
09-20-2008, 12:38 PM
it was funny only one page with akatsuki tobi is one of the jumpers..i think the raikage is not going to find the 8tj, sasuke is where the trail leads to, madara jumped to the akatsuki cave *who knows were that is* so i think the 8 has met his fate..

Stucakes
09-20-2008, 01:31 PM
Well, right now he really cant controll it, but later he will be uber powerfull


So your saying that Madara got what he wanted and is just leaving Sasuke to die?
Niiiiccceee!:thumb:

papfles
09-20-2008, 01:46 PM
it was funny only one page with akatsuki tobi is one of the jumpers..i think the raikage is not going to find the 8tj, sasuke is where the trail leads to, madara jumped to the akatsuki cave *who knows were that is* so i think the 8 has met his fate..

Seeing how they only die during or at the end of the extraction process, they still have some time.

The previous extraction that we know of, was of a lower tail and still had about the entire akatsuki there to help with it, and it still took 3 days.

Now they only have pain - madara - kisame - zetsu - konan.

And it's the 8-tails. It'll take a hell of a long time before the extraction is over.

During that time, plenty of things can happen.

Seraphiel
09-20-2008, 01:49 PM
Seeing how they only die during or at the end of the extraction process, they still have some time.

The previous extraction that we know of, was of a lower tail and still had about the entire akatsuki there to help with it, and it still took 3 days.

Now they only have pain - madara - kisame - zetsu - konan.

And it's the 8-tails. It'll take a hell of a long time before the extraction is over.

During that time, plenty of things can happen.

Yeah like ur new gf getting killed off.

U think they are cannon fodder for hawk-sasuke to finally shine.

papfles
09-20-2008, 01:53 PM
Yeah like ur new gf getting killed off.

U think they are cannon fodder for hawk-sasuke to finally shine.

Probably.

They (Hawk) have had their shot at working together to beat 1 foe, they might need another chance to show their teamwork against an insanely good team (which therefore has to be stronger than killerbee on his own).

Probably a test case for Zetsu, Madara or maybe Sasuke's new EMS tech.

Although it would be nice to get some new chars into the show though.

Sasuke - Madara - Pain - Naruto is about all we got lately.

And the old genin (Neji and the like) are completely forgotten, so some fresh blood (not literally >_>) would be nice, and especially since it's from another country, which is also a nice change.

Seraphiel
09-20-2008, 01:57 PM
Probably.

They (Hawk) have had their shot at working together to beat 1 foe, they might need another chance to show their teamwork against an insanely good team (which therefore has to be stronger than killerbee on his own).

Probably a test case for Zetsu, Madara or maybe Sasuke's new EMS tech.

Although it would be nice to get some new chars into the show though.

Sasuke - Madara - Pain - Naruto is about all we got lately.

And the old genin (Neji and the like) are completely forgotten, so some fresh blood (not literally >_>) would be nice, and especially since it's from another country, which is also a nice change.

I hope Sasuke doesn't get involved in the fight.

Just Karin,juugo and Sui.

Btw he lost his sword maybe Kisame kicks the bucket soon and he takes samehada?

papfles
09-20-2008, 01:58 PM
Btw he lost his sword maybe Kisame kicks the bucket soon and he takes samehada?

Kishi admitted that he considered Kisame as fodder at first, but was going to delve into his background some more.

It would really suck to see him go against Suigetsu, because ... Well, Kisame should blow his ass out of the water right now.

Water against water, but the strongest water techs win then, and no way that Suigetsu can pull off what Kisame can pull off (with a friggin' 30% clone :-/)

Seraphiel
09-20-2008, 02:01 PM
Kishi admitted that he considered Kisame as fodder at first, but was going to delve into his background some more.

It would really suck to see him go against Suigetsu, because ... Well, Kisame should blow his ass out of the water right now.

Water against water, but the strongest water techs win then, and no way that Suigetsu can pull off what Kisame can pull off (with a friggin' 30% clone :-/)

Sasuke>Kisame sry I had to.

And I said kisame kicks the bucket and sui just takes the sword,not a sui vs kis fight.

I agree no way in hell can sui beat kis yet.

papfles
09-20-2008, 02:03 PM
And I said kisame kicks the bucket and sui just tajks the sword,not a sui vs kis fight.

Well, that would be a bit lame for Suigetsu if he watched Kisame against Gai and then yoinked the sword when Kisame is dying / dead :-/

I'm just hoping for a Kisame vs Sui and Sui being put in his place (a glass jar in the middle of an icy patch >_>)

Seraphiel
09-20-2008, 02:06 PM
Well, that would be a bit lame for Suigetsu if he watched Kisame against Gai and then yoinked the sword when Kisame is dying / dead :-/

I'm just hoping for a Kisame vs Sui and Sui being put in his place (a glass jar in the middle of an icy patch >_>)

Nah I think most of hawk will outlive him.

They are Sasukes new team 7 so yeah.


And why wouldn't he steal samehada he practicably robed zabuzas grave.

Btw do you think kishi knew about some1 taking zabuzas sword when he died?

blind
09-20-2008, 02:12 PM
And why wouldn't he steal samehada he practicably robed zabuzas grave.


Remember the defense mechanism that the Samehada has? Suigetsu wouldn't even be able to pick it up, let alone use it.

Seraphiel
09-20-2008, 02:13 PM
Remember the defense mechanism that the Samehada has? Suigetsu wouldn't even be able to pick it up, let alone use it.

Of course he would,since samehada is sentient and Kisame would be dead it would prolly choose sui as its next wielder.

blind
09-20-2008, 02:14 PM
Of course he would,since samehada is sentient and Kisame would be dead it would prolly choose sui as its next wielder.

Who knows, the passing down of the sword might require some sort of ritual, or "ceremony" for lack of a better word, so that the sword would recognize the new welder as it's owner.

Seraphiel
09-20-2008, 02:16 PM
Who knows, the passing down of the sword might require some sort of ritual, or "ceremony" for lack of a better word, so that the sword would recognize the new welder as it's owner.

Well if it goes back to Kisame on its own it can choose the wielder on its own.

imo we will see it when sui finally gets it which has a 75% chance of happening.

blind
09-20-2008, 02:19 PM
Well if it goes back to Kisame on its own it can choose the wielder on its own.

imo we will see it when sui finally gets it which has a 75% chance of happening.

My point is that if it's got a mind of it's own, the sword could still stay loyal to it's current welder and not change until he commands it to do so, or passes it down willingly, not just change welders back his current one is dead.

Seraphiel
09-20-2008, 02:21 PM
My point is that if it's got a mind of it's own, the sword could still stay loyal to it's current welder and not change until he commands it to do so, or passes it down willingly, not just change welders back his current one is dead.

Well yeah but he intended to kill Kisame and take it so he prolly knows of a way to get it,no?

blind
09-20-2008, 02:22 PM
Well yeah but he intended to kill Kisame and take it so he prolly knows of a way to get it,no?

Well yeah, he intends to take it, but he doesn't know of the swords ability to spike the user if it's not it's chosen welder, so I'd think that if he gets his hand on it, he wouldn't be able to do anything with it.

KageNaruto
09-20-2008, 02:23 PM
Well yeah but he intended to kill Kisame and take it so he prolly knows of a way to get it,no?

He may not even know what it does, we really don't have enough info on Sui.

Seraphiel
09-20-2008, 02:23 PM
Well yeah, he intends to take it, but he doesn't know of the swords ability to spike the user if it's not it's chosen welder, so I'd think that if he gets his hand on it, he wouldn't be able to do anything with it.

He may not even know what it does, we really don't have enough info on Sui.

I think he did his homework on the swords,would be pretty stupid if he didnt imho.

blind
09-20-2008, 02:26 PM
I think he did his homework on the swords,would be pretty stupid if he didnt imho.

It just sounds like he wants to collect all the swords, it could mean he's done some research, but something as "secret" as those spikes wouldn't be known to everyone, so even if he's done the research he wouldn't have known about it imo.

KageNaruto
09-20-2008, 02:26 PM
He doesen't seem like the brightest character to me, if he did his homework he should also know he had no chance of defeating Kisame yet we know he tried to anyway, and had the circumstances been different he could have winded up dead.

Seraphiel
09-20-2008, 02:29 PM
It just sounds like he wants to collect all the swords, it could mean he's done some research, but something as "secret" as those spikes wouldn't be known to everyone, so even if he's done the research he wouldn't have known about it imo.

Btw those spikes wouldn't really hurt him of all people.


But ok I give u this one until proven otherwise.

blind
09-20-2008, 02:31 PM
Btw those spikes wouldn't really hurt him of all people.


You're right, it wouldn't, his arm could just turn into water right? But remember what could he do when he's hold the sword with the spikes impaled in his arm in water form? He wouldn't even be able to swing the sword around.

Seraphiel
09-20-2008, 02:33 PM
You're right, it wouldn't, his arm could just turn into water right? But remember what could he do when he's hold the sword with the spikes impaled in his arm in water form? He wouldn't even be able to swing the sword around.

In know that's why I agreed with u.

Stucakes
09-20-2008, 02:55 PM
It would be totally un-epic if he just stole it. That would be soooo stupid.
He might have a chance of beating Kisame if the 8-tails was in him.
How is he going to beat anyone without a sword? lol

Dream Catcher
09-20-2008, 03:46 PM
HAHAH, yeah Suigetsu sucks without a sword. We haven't seen anything from him besides running his big mouth left and right.

I love it how philosophical juugo got, I guess he was always smart like that though.

Next chapter will definitely be about Naruto mastering his nature chakra !!

KageNaruto
09-20-2008, 03:48 PM
We haven't seen anything from him besides running his big mouth left and right.



And turning into a giant mass of water and holding back a fully transformed jinchuuriki for a short amount of time.

papfles
09-20-2008, 03:50 PM
And turning into a giant mass of water and holding back a fully transformed jinchuuriki for a short amount of time.

A millisecond doesn't really count >_>

Especially since Kisame has summoned more water with a 30% clone.

Dream Catcher
09-20-2008, 03:51 PM
And turning into a giant mass of water and holding back a fully transformed jinchuuriki for a short amount of time.

well, water IS a liquid and a lot of it is hard to break through, so I wouldn't expect less.

The 8 tails fight was VERY inconsistent anyways, so I'm not even counting that as a show of power.

Sooner or later the 9 tails has to come out, and that will be the end of that

edit : and what pap said

papfles
09-20-2008, 03:52 PM
Btw those spikes wouldn't really hurt him of all people.

I might beg to differ:

Essentially, a shinobi (and everything else) is made of chakra. If you draw out too much chakra, you get tired, and you may die. This may mean that chakra is tied in with life force. Therefore, if samehada had enough time, it could probably suck suigetsu dry of chakra... (and anyone else for that matter)

well, water IS a liquid and a lot of it is hard to break through, so I wouldn't expect less.

Actually, an explosion would be amplified by water, so all in all, suigetsu should've helped amplify the 8-tails chakra bomb :p

KageNaruto
09-20-2008, 03:58 PM
A millisecond doesn't really count >_>

Especially since Kisame has summoned more water with a 30% clone.

Faugh! Nobody can talk back and forth in a millisecond!

Summoning =/= turning into water.

papfles
09-20-2008, 04:02 PM
Summoning =/= turning into water.

And it only lasted a millisecond for his defense to last though >_>


Summoning is more effective since Kisame then has multiple people to do something with (his clones / sharks / whatever else he summons) + he can still do jutsu

Suigetsu just went "wobbly" and then almost kicked the bucket.

Although Kisame might not be able to pull of a stunt like a chakra blast, he had no problem at all fighting his own jinchuuriki's and even managed to split his already limited chakra pool into 4 + summon a friggin' lake + sharks while only at 30 %

As DC said: only thing he has shown is attitude and this one team-defense "attempt". (and a rather stupid attack on Kisame)

blind
09-20-2008, 04:04 PM
I might beg to differ:

Essentially, a shinobi (and everything else) is made of chakra. If you draw out too much chakra, you get tired, and you may die. This may mean that chakra is tied in with life force. Therefore, if samehada had enough time, it could probably suck suigetsu dry of chakra... (and anyone else for that matter)


I think he meant those spikes on the handles that come out when someone else other than Kisame uses Samehada. His arm turning into water wouldn't allow him to swing the sword, essentially making him useless with the sword, even if he did get his hands on it somehow.

papfles
09-20-2008, 04:05 PM
I think he meant those spikes on the handles that come out when someone else other than Kisame uses Samehada. His arm turning into water wouldn't allow him to swing the sword, essentially making him useless with the sword, even if he did get his hands on it somehow.

Ah, whoops, thought it was about Samehada in general >_>

ANBUMike
09-20-2008, 04:28 PM
Next chapter will definitely be about Naruto mastering his nature chakra !!

I doubt that. Remember when jiraiya's heart was given to Naruto? (lol) We got 6 pages of that.

Dream Catcher
09-20-2008, 04:35 PM
Only thing I remember is the preview of the next chapter, saying he masters sage chakra :D

KageNaruto
09-20-2008, 04:38 PM
As DC said: only thing he has shown is attitude and this one team-defense "attempt". (and a rather stupid attack on Kisame)

No, what he said was all he did was swing his sword around and the attitude. I added the team-defense attempt-_-, which pretty much means you missed the whole point of my post altogether.

papfles
09-20-2008, 04:42 PM
No, what he said was all he did was swing his sword around and the attitude. I added the team-defense attempt-_-, which pretty much means you missed the whole point of my post altogether.

Well, I just didn't go back to re-read it all.

And with my "attempt", I wanted to point out that his defense didn't mean bo diddly :p

SpikeUchiha
09-20-2008, 05:08 PM
? ninja in jman's book was pretty cool I wonder is that was a real village or was made up ... I made one for imvu and it would be cool see more..was that the same village as the three idiots from the kakashi's true face filler?

blind
09-20-2008, 05:12 PM
? ninja in jman's book was pretty cool I wonder is that was a real village or was made up ... I made one for imvu and it would be cool see more..was that the same village as the three idiots from the kakashi's true face filler?

Definitely made up, it's got a question mark as a village symbol, and while it's true that Naruto may not know about it, and that's how it's portrayed, it's a lot more likely that it's made up rather than basing it on an existing village.

Dream Catcher
09-20-2008, 05:44 PM
oh i didn't notice that question mark thing, heh... maybe it was the sound nin mark? :confused:

There's a high chance we will get to see Jay get the crap beat out of him.

blind
09-20-2008, 09:51 PM
Naw, it's actually a question mark:

http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/416/01/

Yeah, their team is going to get beat up, it's just a question of who is going to do it...

mandelak
09-20-2008, 10:41 PM
a lot of black ninja.

anyways its going to be good to see all kage. isnt madara one of them so he will be there to know whats going on.

anyways narutos sage training complete. i wonder what awakening is. maybe its about naruto and his hidden strength or maybe its sasuke and his awakening of EMS or maybe its awakening of a new ninja war against akatsuki. its gonna be crazy.

the lost shinobi
09-21-2008, 01:52 AM
I've got a prediction that's likely going to happen given the current situation of cloud country, the Kage summit will probably take place in konoha, earth, fire wind, cloud and mist country will be part of the summit.

Raikage will cause a stir among his fire and wind counterparts, when he reveals sasuke involvement with Akatsuki in capturing the 8 tails, Kakashi steps in and denys raikage claim by revealing that himself had encountered during their last mission an akatsuki member other than Sasuke and Itachi that posseses Sharingan.
That revelation will cause fear among danzou and the elders for obvious reasons....and force Tsunade to cooperate with raikage, who already sent an assasin squad to kill Sasuke and retrieve the jinchirruki. ( it seems that sasuke's has earned another cool title "the most wanted criminal in the 5 five nations")

I think the summit will result in a big failure as Tsunade will interfere with cloud intentions, because of the conflict of interests she will lose the Danzou/Elders support........seems that another ninja war is innevitable, while in the Aka hideout Zetsu and Tobi discussing how things are smoothely going according to plan.

why would Kakashi be privy to something that goes on in a Kage summit.

blind
09-21-2008, 02:12 AM
anyways its going to be good to see all kage. isnt madara one of them so he will be there to know whats going on.


Madara could have been one of them. Now, he could still be the Mizukage, but it has been a while since Kisame has left the village, and Madara was the Mizukage before he left. Who knows how long he was the kage before that? He could very well have been replaced already.

Stucakes
09-21-2008, 02:17 AM
He wouldn't necessarily have to be there, Everything that goes on gets reported to the Hokage. Tsunade would have the information.
or I doubt she would travel by herself, she would want body guards to come with her and I bet It could include ANBU or Kakashi.

raugaj08_
09-21-2008, 02:28 AM
why would Kakashi be privy to something that goes on in a Kage summit.

ah thats true... but do u think danzou and the two elders might be there? if they went things might turn out to be interesting yeah...

@ stucakes luv ur sig yeah... :D

Stucakes
09-21-2008, 02:32 AM
Thats a really good point! Sasuke would freak, or it could even turn into an assassination plot if Madara is still the Kage. That sounds awesome, so it probably wont happen. : )

mandelak
09-21-2008, 03:37 AM
well he could have appointed the possition to someone else. or maybe he has someone he trusts acting as hokage for now. its possible before he left he gave the possition to someone he knows is loyal.

anyways i can't wait for the summit gaara is coming back. and sage training complete could mean they move on to other things or he completes it successfully.

awakening could be a number of things from sasuke and EMS or naruto and his hidden power or some random shit like kabuchimaru

Gman47
09-21-2008, 05:23 AM
K well the way I see things going are:

1. Kage summit, we'll see some more Gaara & co soon, and the Raikage brought up the Hinata kidnapping incident, I'm sure the Hyugas will be involved soon as well. Tsunade will find out about Sasuke and they'll be mayhem at the summit, lots of arguments, Maybe we see Madara show up as Mizukage and maybe see his face.

2. Pain heads heads for Konoha and Tsunade and Elders, & possibly some other high lvl nin will be gone now.

3. Sasuke will prob head for Konoha and run into Raikages team and be like "aw fuck" and go more blind from killin them.

4. Sasuke and Pain cross paths on the way to Konoha, some "WTF" moments happen, but they know of each other so they join up, Pain's goal is to get Kyuubi, who knos if Sasuke is still good maybe he'll turn on Pain, They get to Konoha, Naruto and the Elders are not there, they give up trying to find Naruto at the moment but someone they fight tells them about the summit, Sasuke and prob Pain (lookin to demand where to find Naruto) decides to head to the summit to kill the elders. They get there, Sasuke notices Madara, every1 in shock and like "holy shit", Sasuke goes after elders, Tsunade is confused why he's in akatsuki and goin after the elders, Lots of fights break out.

5. During the midst of before all this Naruto completes his sage training, but probably just the part for absorbing naturl energy, he prob gonna learn some techniques now, I'd imagine. Then he'll eventually find out about everything and get involved somehow and save the day.

papfles
09-21-2008, 05:37 AM
4. Sasuke and Pain cross paths on the way to Konoha, some "WTF" moments happen, but they know of each other so they join up, Pain's goal is to get Kyuubi,

Someone who has been treated as a god and who considers himself as a god is not going to work together with some "lowly" Uchiha. He'll screw him six ways until Sunday before teaming up.

Gman47
09-21-2008, 05:42 AM
Someone who has been treated as a god and who considers himself as a god is not going to work together with some "lowly" Uchiha. He'll screw him six ways until Sunday before teaming up.

Well we couldn't say that for sure ya know, Pain knows about Sasuke and knows that he's working with Madara, but I also have a feeling Pain and Madara hate eachother and were eventually plannin to overtake one another and when Pain sees Sasuke he might take the opportunity to eliminate him because he knows he is a valuable asset to Madara in some way.

papfles
09-21-2008, 05:44 AM
Well, personally, I'd think if you were someone who hasn't lost ever, and who has eliminated practically an entire country on your own, you don't go "hey noob, want to join forces".

So them teaming up is quite a stretch, unless Sasuke is just Pain's slave (which we both know won't happen)

Gman47
09-21-2008, 06:09 AM
Well, personally, I'd think if you were someone who hasn't lost ever, and who has eliminated practically an entire country on your own, you don't go "hey noob, want to join forces".

So them teaming up is quite a stretch, unless Sasuke is just Pain's slave (which we both know won't happen)

true true, Pain & his freakin god complex lol

Itachi_the_Feared_One
09-21-2008, 10:51 AM
Someone who has been treated as a god and who considers himself as a god is not going to work together with some "lowly" Uchiha. He'll screw him six ways until Sunday before teaming up.

am I sensing some pain fanboyism....:biggrin1:...Paps, are you coming out of the "pain closet".....mind you the lowely uchiha like you said succeded in catching the 8 tail, even though Konan wasn't sure of his (potentiel) plus pain got a secret as soon as it is found out he will die, Uchiha have no secrets its just shear godly power, proof that madara is still alive and rolling the dices.

pain's death will be quick and his legacy will be forgotten in no time.

Naru-Ichi
09-21-2008, 01:01 PM
am I sensing some pain fanboyism....:biggrin1:...Paps, are you coming out of the "pain closet".....mind you the lowely uchiha like you said succeded in catching the 8 tail, even though Konan wasn't sure of his (potentiel) plus pain got a secret as soon as it is found out he will die, Uchiha have no secrets its just shear godly power, proof that madara is still alive and rolling the dices.

pain's death will be quick and his legacy will be forgotten in no time.

Madara has a secret :D

Anyways, even if he does know Pein's secret, that doesn't mean Sasuke would be able to kill him.

papfles
09-21-2008, 02:55 PM
am I sensing some pain fanboyism....:biggrin1:...Paps, are you coming out of the "pain closet".....mind you the lowely uchiha like you said succeded in catching the 8 tail, even though Konan wasn't sure of his (potentiel) plus pain got a secret as soon as it is found out he will die, Uchiha have no secrets its just shear godly power, proof that madara is still alive and rolling the dices.

pain's death will be quick and his legacy will be forgotten in no time.

Uhm, Pain has always considered himself a god. He won't consider Sasuke as a "wow, you si teh uchiha? I wub wub j00 11!1!1!1!!1"

he will consider him as a measly uchiha.


And you know as well as I do that Sasuke catching the 8-tails was a mere plot-device as under normal circumstances (i.e. if logic prevailed in the manga), Sasuke wouldn't have won.

Hellspawn0707
09-21-2008, 03:11 PM
Has anyone noticed that Sasuke's MS looks like the eye of the Jew in the end of Beerfest.

Seraphiel
09-21-2008, 03:19 PM
Uhm, Pain has always considered himself a god. He won't consider Sasuke as a "wow, you si teh uchiha? I wub wub j00 11!1!1!1!!1"

he will consider him as a measly uchiha.


And you know as well as I do that Sasuke catching the 8-tails was a mere plot-device as under normal circumstances (i.e. if logic prevailed in the manga), Sasuke wouldn't have won.

Sasuke had a lot of pain in his life maybe he will consider him "evolved"


But I agree no teaming up.

papfles
09-21-2008, 03:29 PM
Sasuke had a lot of pain in his life maybe he will consider him "evolved"

Lol, who knows ^^

blind
09-21-2008, 03:31 PM
Sasuke had a lot of pain in his life maybe he will consider him "evolved"


By that logic, wouldn't he want to team up with Naruto too? And Jiraiya?

Gman47
09-21-2008, 03:32 PM
Sasuke had a lot of pain in his life maybe he will consider him "evolved"


But I agree no teaming up.

Yeah good point, maybe he will consider him to have gone through enough Pain to be an underling or somethin. :thumb:

Spirit-Sage
09-21-2008, 03:48 PM
*Pain examines sasuke's emoness*

Pain: lol screw pain, I'm changing my name to "pat robertson's protein shake."

Seraphiel
09-21-2008, 03:49 PM
By that logic, wouldn't he want to team up with Naruto too? And Jiraiya?

I said they would team up read my post I just said he would consider him evolved.

And Sasuke has been through more than those 2 together.

papfles
09-21-2008, 03:50 PM
And Sasuke has been through more than those 2 together.

That's the eternal discussion (between sasuke and naruto) of "having loved and lost" and "never having loved at all". Depends on the pov I guess

Seraphiel
09-21-2008, 03:52 PM
That's the eternal discussion (between sasuke and naruto) of "having loved and lost" and "never having loved at all". Depends on the pov I guess

whole clan killed,whole life a lie,contributing to ur bros death and so on is more than not being liked and losing a friend imho.

blind
09-21-2008, 04:01 PM
I said they would team up read my post I just said he would consider him evolved.


Considering him evolve would imply that he thinks they feel his pain, wouldn't be out of the question to guess that they would team up at that point, but yes, that's not going to happen, since Sasuke is just "using" Akatsuki to his goals.

whole clan killed,whole life a lie,contributing to ur bros death and so on is more than not being liked and losing a friend imho.

At least he knows what love is.

Swift
09-21-2008, 04:05 PM
Anyone else think that perhaps "that" jutsu refers to a counter-Amaterasu? I mean Jiraiya did take a specimen of the black flame.

blind
09-21-2008, 04:07 PM
Anyone else think that perhaps "that" jutsu refers to a counter-Amaterasu? I mean Jiraiya did take a specimen of the black flame.

He wouldn't have told Naruto not to use "that" jutsu when he went off to rescue Gaara, unless he forsaw Itachi coming into the picture. Also, why would he hide that from Fukusaku when he asked him what he was talking about if it was just to counter Amaterasu?

Swift
09-21-2008, 04:17 PM
ah very valid points Blind, I forgot about that.

Well that does actually make me wonder. Will there be a counter to Amaterasu? I mean when Naruto inevitable faces Sasuke, he is going to need some way to protect against it.

CaptainWolf8
09-21-2008, 04:32 PM
But still we need the results of the amaterasu specimen... and if i remember correctly they did encounter and it was a possibility scince the news involved akutsuki...

Seraphiel
09-21-2008, 04:35 PM
But still we need the results of the amaterasu specimen...

No we don't


And Jiraya is dead,who is gonna tell us the results,Naruto?

I don't think so.

Itachi_the_Feared_One
09-21-2008, 04:41 PM
I couldn't help but notice the similarity between the two pictures, is kishi running out of Imagination, or is he just a big fan of star wars.....what do you think guys????

http://b.imagehost.org/0822/11_5.jpg

Gman47
09-21-2008, 04:43 PM
I couldn't help but notice the similarity between the two pictures, is kishi running out of Imagination, or is he just a big fan of star wars.....what do you think guys????

http://b.imagehost.org/0822/11_5.jpg

i'm beginning to believe he is a star wars fan lol.

Spirit-Sage
09-21-2008, 06:27 PM
ROFL itachi, i love it, fusaku=yoda.

Raido
09-21-2008, 06:30 PM
I couldn't help but notice the similarity between the two pictures, is kishi running out of Imagination, or is he just a big fan of star wars.....what do you think guys????


Yep, i've noticed the similarity with Star Wars characters too. :)

Gman47
09-21-2008, 06:50 PM
I hope with this new body of Pain that Kishi doesn't pull some "I am your mother" crap on Naruto...

ANBUMike
09-21-2008, 07:52 PM
Wouldn't be surprised if Star Wars has influenced him. The Japanese love Star Wars, after all.

And what's this about a new body? Did I miss something?:confused:

winchester20
09-21-2008, 08:54 PM
I love Naruto but love it even more after seeing those 2 pics side-by-side.

Gman47
09-21-2008, 09:15 PM
Wouldn't be surprised if Star Wars has influenced him. The Japanese love Star Wars, after all.

And what's this about a new body? Did I miss something?:confused:

http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/407/17/

That is the body Pain replaced with the one Jiraiya killed(which Shizune was examining in konoha)

There was speculation if whether or not it was Naruto's mother.

winchester20
09-21-2008, 09:23 PM
I highly doubt that's gonna be true.

Whirlpool Country was destroyed at least a decade ago. Why would he keep her body on ice all that time? And why would he have it to begin with? That'd be a stretch for Star Wars and Naruto fans I think.

Gman47
09-21-2008, 09:29 PM
I highly doubt that's gonna be true.

Whirlpool Country was destroyed at least a decade ago. Why would he keep her body on ice all that time? And why would he have it to begin with? That'd be a stretch for Star Wars and Naruto fans I think.

Lol I agree with you but we don't know much about Naruto's parents and Pain and what happened with them for all of that matter, so we couldn't say for sure. Kishi stated that one of the things that will be revealed in the manga itself is if Naruto's mother is still alive or not. :D

winchester20
09-21-2008, 09:49 PM
That's cool to hear there's a confirmation at least about Naruto's mother as far as what her current status is. I hadn't heard about that. I'd actually expect Kishi to have Pein grab up and use Jiraiya's body long before that turned out to be Naruto's mother though. Now that would be a plot twist. Especially if Pein was able to use Jiraiya's ability to tap into Nature Energy. Could you imagine the fight that would be? Naruto would be all tore up just cause of seeing his teacher again, but then also having to fight him and both of them using Nature Energy? Now that would be an epic battle.

And........

I know I got this from somewhere on NC, but as we're talking about Star Wars and Naruto, it's great enough to post again.

http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t21/winchester20/NarutoStarWars.jpg

Gman47
09-21-2008, 09:57 PM
That's cool to hear there's a confirmation at least about Naruto's mother as far as what her current status is. I hadn't heard about that. I'd actually expect Kishi to have Pein grab up and use Jiraiya's body long before that turned out to be Naruto's mother though. Now that would be a plot twist. Especially if Pein was able to use Jiraiya's ability to tap into Nature Energy. Could you imagine the fight that would be? Naruto would be all tore up just cause of seeing his teacher again, but then also having to fight him and both of them using Nature Energy? Now that would be an epic battle.

And........

I know I got this from somewhere on NC, but as we're talking about Star Wars and Naruto, it's great enough to post again.

http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t21/winchester20/NarutoStarWars.jpg

That would be a really epic fight, rofl at pic, cool though.

Spirit-Sage
09-21-2008, 10:45 PM
Hah, Gaara in that picture=fun.

People thought one of pein's bodies was kushina? Dang I was thinking the new body was just a girly looking guy, I find the thought of pein controlling both a male and female body...odd.

Tazuwukei
09-22-2008, 12:34 AM
Hah, Gaara in that picture=fun.

People thought one of pein's bodies was kushina? Dang I was thinking the new body was just a girly looking guy, I find the thought of pein controlling both a male and female body...odd.
Pein likes to play with him and her selves.
..And sometimes he does it 6-ways. Pain = Pleasure

winchester20
09-22-2008, 03:10 AM
Oh Tazu......

Didya really have to go there?

,,,^.^,,,
09-22-2008, 08:36 AM
clearly, tazu knows what the six paths of pain are.

Whoever does the fake spoilers should put in: opening scene, pain is asking why if their group is called Red Moon are their dresses covered with red clouds...

blind
09-22-2008, 11:54 AM
Akatsuki actually translates to daybreak, so the red clouds just symbolizes the clouds as the sun comes up.

0m3gA
09-22-2008, 12:08 PM
ahh that was a great chapter..i guess this epic battle is on its way ...

i think the raikage just talks alot of smack but will get owned either way ... and i doubt
the raikage is stronger than killerbee...but who knows..

if pain used kushina as his next body...his definitely using that against naruto ... IF he
somehow got information about naruto being the prophecy child...

papfles
09-22-2008, 12:14 PM
and i doubt
the raikage is stronger than killerbee...but who knows..

Raikage: by definition he should be stronger.

And killerbee even said that the raikage had been the only one able to avoid his strikes (meaning he's faster at least). And the huge weights around his arms do suggest that he is able to turn up the heat like lee did when removing his own weights.

JD021
09-22-2008, 01:06 PM
Akatsuki actually translates to daybreak, so the red clouds just symbolizes the clouds as the sun comes up.


when i looked it up it said akatsuki translates to Red Moon.. now im a little cxonfused

blind
09-22-2008, 01:19 PM
when i looked it up it said akatsuki translates to Red Moon.. now im a little cxonfused

I'm assuming they were doing a literal translation, since Aka - Red, Tsuki (similar to Tsukuyomi) - Moon. Those two together, however, means something completely different.

Hellspawn0707
09-22-2008, 01:37 PM
Granted Gai and Suigetsu have no reason to fight I would like to see a 3 way battle between Gai, Kisame and Suigetsu.

0m3gA
09-22-2008, 02:07 PM
screw suigetsu...

just do a kesame and gai rematch .....

since kisame "body" was not at full power ... so kisame being there for real it should be
an epic battle!

rasenproc
09-22-2008, 02:18 PM
screw suigetsu...

just do a kesame and gai rematch .....

since kisame "body" was not at full power ... so kisame being there for real it should be
an epic battle!

i dont think epic is the right word... more like short and pointless. kisame already almost defeated team gai at 30%. so gai alone IMO would pose little match for kisame who i think may end up being one of the most powerful of all shinobi if he is that powerful or has that much chakra

Tatsujin
09-22-2008, 02:20 PM
dude, Gai defeated Kisame with ONE hit.
I think Omega mean gates released Gai vs Kisame.

papfles
09-22-2008, 02:27 PM
dude, Gai defeated Kisame with ONE hit.
I think Omega mean gates released Gai vs Kisame.

While Kisame had to deal with a team of four and still managed to summon all that with 1/4th of the chakra of his 30% clone?

Hardly that Gai will take out a full Kisame with one hit.

Gai had to go 6 gates... And Kisame now knows about those 6 gates...

Tatsujin
09-22-2008, 02:31 PM
Fair point, but i think that you shouldn't underestimate Gai like that.
And he can release all 8 gates after all...

papfles
09-22-2008, 02:45 PM
Fair point, but i think that you shouldn't underestimate Gai like that.
And he can release all 8 gates after all...

6 gates vs 30% clone (at 1/4th the power of that clone)

Even though we don't know how Kisame is at 100%, the advantage that Gai has, is speed.

But Kisame is a complete powerhouse. If he even sees Gai going for a gates release, he'd throw everything at him, or prepare himself to block it (and he should normally be able to handle that, since he knows what's coming).

I fear that Gai vs Kisame would be a formality (although Gai might incapacitate Kisame somewhat, allowing Lee to do the kill).

Gai won't survive this though.

Seraphiel
09-22-2008, 02:49 PM
6 gates vs 30% clone (at 1/4th the power of that clone)

Even though we don't know how Kisame is at 100%, the advantage that Gai has, is speed.

But Kisame is a complete powerhouse. If he even sees Gai going for a gates release, he'd throw everything at him, or prepare himself to block it (and he should normally be able to handle that, since he knows what's coming).

I fear that Gai vs Kisame would be a formality (although Gai might incapacitate Kisame somewhat, allowing Lee to do the kill).

Gai won't survive this though.

I must say if Gai goes suicide attack and opens all gates he can and will kill kisame.

That's how its prolly going to be.

papfles
09-22-2008, 02:54 PM
I must say if Gai goes suicide attack and opens all gates he can and will kill kisame.

That's how its prolly going to be.

Then Lee has no purpose anymore. I think it's "Kisame does Gai over, Lee takes revenge".

Stucakes
09-22-2008, 03:03 PM
Maybe kisame will kill Gai and then Lee will have to surpass him to defeat Kisame.
That would be cool.

Lol, sorry papfles, we posted at the same time = )

Seraphiel
09-22-2008, 03:04 PM
Then Lee has no purpose anymore. I think it's "Kisame does Gai over, Lee takes revenge".

Rofl do you really think lee can touch Kisame?

And I don't think any of the kids will fight,except for Sakura.

Stucakes
09-22-2008, 03:05 PM
He would need to train and surpass Gai first, right now he would get owned

Seraphiel
09-22-2008, 03:07 PM
He would need to train and surpass Gai first, right now he would get owned

He has no KB I don't think he will surpass Gai in the current storyline.

And I don't want chapters wasted on him.

Hellspawn0707
09-22-2008, 03:12 PM
If it wasn't Gai, Kisame and Suigetsu fight which I think would be awesome because where Gai and Suigetsu lack in abilities the other could make up for. (sui: sword and water jutsu and gai: strength and speed)

Neji may play a factor his 64 strikes could close off Kisame's chakra points.

sasuke123uchiha
09-22-2008, 03:17 PM
bty did suigetsu lose his sword

papfles
09-22-2008, 03:18 PM
Rofl do you really think lee can touch Kisame?

And I don't think any of the kids will fight,except for Sakura.

Well, Lee can practically do what Gai can do and he's much younger. And it wouldn't surprise me that Lee has advanced quite a bit since we've last seen him. No idea though.

0m3gA
09-22-2008, 04:10 PM
i agree that lee will soon someday be the succesor of gai...plus he can put up a fair fight with anyone he fought so far...and when he gets his sake!!! drunken LEEE!!!!!

Spirit-Sage
09-22-2008, 04:30 PM
Hah! I forgot all about drunken lee! We need more of him imo.

papfles
09-22-2008, 04:44 PM
bty did suigetsu lose his sword

Yes, he even said so in the chapter...

wind33
09-22-2008, 05:22 PM
i agree that lee will soon someday be the succesor of gai...plus he can put up a fair fight with anyone he fought so far...and when he gets his sake!!! drunken LEEE!!!!!And I believe that he has a faster method now that doesn't require him drinking sake in order to fight drunken lee style...

rasenproc
09-22-2008, 05:26 PM
bty did suigetsu lose his sword

it looks that way. personally i dont think he needs it. that particular sword has now special abilities like kisame's. this is perhaps an opening to show us the others

0m3gA
09-22-2008, 05:40 PM
And I believe that he has a faster method now that doesn't require him drinking sake in order to fight drunken lee style...
i think your talking about the chocolate liquor he had in the anime filler when he fought that earth/rock dude

CaptainWolf8
09-22-2008, 06:41 PM
i think naruto has enough chakra/mature/"mojo" to control the KB. IMO he should be trainin on that -.-

Gman47
09-22-2008, 06:52 PM
Rofl do you really think lee can touch Kisame?

And I don't think any of the kids will fight,except for Sakura.

I agree with you, I saw foreshadowing of Sakura vs. Karin.


And I believe that he has a faster method now that doesn't require him drinking sake in order to fight drunken lee style...

Well that was in the first shippuuden movie, but it's plausible to say he'd have it in the manga I suppose. What it was, was a little liqour filled chocolate candy, I believe it was sake, he only requires a little for him to get drunk.

papfles
09-22-2008, 06:58 PM
Well that was in the first shippuuden movie, but it's plausible to say he'd have it in the manga I suppose.

I'd still consider everything in the movies as filler, unless kishi states otherwise. The only thing I've heard him say was possible was that move that Hinata did against the bee.

Gman47
09-22-2008, 07:05 PM
I'd still consider everything in the movies as filler, unless kishi states otherwise. The only thing I've heard him say was possible was that move that Hinata did against the bee.

Yea I do with the movies as well but eh, ya never know, ya know? lol, and wow cool I never knew Kishi said that about Hinata's technique, so that jutsu was like a canon in the filler i guess you'd call it?

papfles
09-22-2008, 07:06 PM
I think he said something like "that is something that could come up as a regular move" or that he approved of her doing that (meaning that something like that could actually become part of her repertoire).

It wouldn't be a bad move, it's very similar to kaiten, only Hinata-specific in this case.

winchester20
09-22-2008, 07:07 PM
Wow, he said Shugohakke was possible? That's cool. That story arc is just about the only filler I enjoyed.

Gman47
09-22-2008, 07:35 PM
I think he said something like "that is something that could come up as a regular move" or that he approved of her doing that (meaning that something like that could actually become part of her repertoire).

It wouldn't be a bad move, it's very similar to kaiten, only Hinata-specific in this case.

Yup, it is indeed a nice move, I think it'd be good for her, it's her own unique technique. :D

Spirit-Sage
09-22-2008, 07:46 PM
She does need a unique technique, without it she's a watered down neji.

Although that's a deadly technique, couldn't she slice someones head off with that?

Gman47
09-22-2008, 08:17 PM
She does need a unique technique, without it she's a watered down neji.

Although that's a deadly technique, couldn't she slice someones head off with that?

I don't think she can neccesarily slice someones head off with it, but who knows lol. I think it's more of a defensive and offensive jutsu all in one, it acts as a barrier that blocks attacks as well as her shooting concentrated chakra from her palms extending out of the barrier acting as razors, but I believe she can't move while using this technique which is the only downside, meaning she'd have to be more tactical to lure the enemy in a position where she could use it. If she could move with this technique then it'd be alot more better, tactical wise at least, and she could just charge an enemy with it. In NUNA 2 Hinata has two finishing moves that are really powerful, even more so then the one we're talkin about, and foreshadow what we may or may not see in the manga from her. But then again that is only a game and is not canon, as of yet at least.

NarutoforHokage
09-22-2008, 09:18 PM
at the end of this next chapter i really hope we see naruto decide to stay and train more to learn more techniques and not head to konaha untill hes called by Tsunade. Also definetly wanna see Gaara!

-Erios-
09-22-2008, 09:33 PM
Man this chapter was really good we get to see a new team and imo they seem to kick as*
Sasuke going blind is great this is probably going to lead him to get itachi's eyes... probably
and Naruto training...well hopefully we will see him learn some new jutsus in the next chap... or soon

Tatsujin
09-22-2008, 09:38 PM
6 gates vs