View Full Version : Naruto Chapter 417 Spoilers Discussion
blind
09-16-2008, 02:06 PM
Discussion of the spoilers go in here.
Post spoiler pictures/scripts in here (http://forum.narutochaos.com/showthread.php?t=17968).
That is all.
Dream Catcher
09-16-2008, 04:01 PM
hahaha lame spoilers..
I found "this" quite interesting : fake according to long time member Sage
O_o
sasuke123uchiha
09-16-2008, 04:05 PM
they are feak but imo they are fun to read.
papfles
09-16-2008, 04:11 PM
They were indeed quite fun to read. Some parts from each spoiler would be a good chapter (although maybe too soon for some things to happen)
Stucakes
09-16-2008, 04:14 PM
Yeah, They are fake but I liked the stuff with the different frogs.
To be a master in all those different areas would make Naruto the Hokage when he got off the mountain : )
Murdock
09-16-2008, 04:42 PM
FAkes lol :D but like papfles said some would be good parts :D for example Raikage smashing doors :D ... and about 4th ... i don't think Naruto will get to know that he is his son so early ... plus there will be no info in this book about it .. this book was written long before Naruto and even before Minato was born
PirUnravel
09-16-2008, 04:54 PM
LMFAO @ both activating "PMS"!
wind33
09-16-2008, 07:11 PM
Alot of interesting stuff in those spoilers but they are moving way to fast...I hope that Naruto will learn all those arts but I doubt that he will learn them so fast...I just hope the second part of his training he can make use of the KB so that he can speed up his training...I also hope he begins to learn about his father and why he placed the Kyuubi inside him...
Herumor
09-16-2008, 07:43 PM
Fake, yet entertaining nonetheless >.>
rasenproc
09-16-2008, 08:31 PM
FUSKAGE!!!!!! hahahahhahhaa
Erotique
09-16-2008, 08:34 PM
If it's too fast-paced, or seems "too good to be true" then it's a fake...
But then again, I've been wrong before...
Csdabest
09-16-2008, 11:00 PM
Guess what.
ROOT KILLED YOUR MOM!!!!!!!
Gman47
09-16-2008, 11:19 PM
I think that'd be a cool concept if that was real, then Naruto would share similar pain to Sasuke, and want revenge on ROOT, there's gonna be a civil war one day, it's bound to happen. :yawn:
mandelak
09-17-2008, 12:21 AM
spoilers are pretty interesting, but FAKE.
to early imo and way to long.
tomz should get something decent.
The_Last_True_Uchiha
09-17-2008, 07:53 AM
Thanks for the spoiler pics Bossz.. So we will see the Raikage and his 3 man cell head towards the akatsuki meeting place.. Looks like we'll get to see Raikage in action.. Can't wait for a spoiler script for the pics...
boszz
09-17-2008, 07:54 AM
wow it looks like it will be great chapter even thought i tired of sasuke its nice too see something from others village and its seems narutos training will be shown too
EnvoyofDestiny
09-17-2008, 08:25 AM
wow it looks like it will be great chapter even thought i tired of sasuke its nice too see something from others village and its seems narutos training will be shown too
its really stupid for the raikage to go himself. I guess he must be confident that he is stronger than his brother. Its gonna be col if he fights we havent seen a fight between in a sharingan user and a non sharingan and non beast guy in a while.
or maybe madara will pwn them
sasuke123uchiha
09-17-2008, 08:32 AM
guess that kishi is going to show us maddara's power aginst the raikage
papfles
09-17-2008, 09:07 AM
its really stupid for the raikage to go himself. I guess he must be confident that he is stronger than his brother. Its gonna be col if he fights we havent seen a fight between in a sharingan user and a non sharingan and non beast guy in a while.
Even if he is stronger, I doubt he is as stupid as to go to an akatsuki hiding place, expecting to trump every akatsuki there. Even konoha sends entire teams to beat down even 1 or 2 akatsuki (hell, they even sent legions of teams to go meet and defeat kakuzu and hidan). But seeing the pictures, I'm afraid the raikage is strong but as stupid as Gai...
And I think I'm going to have a new favourite girl in the manga if this chick in the last picture (from bosz) turns out to have a few nice tricks >_>
Erotique
09-17-2008, 09:14 AM
Even though Raikage made his first appearance, for some reason, it feels as if he's illustrated in a rather hurried fashion. It seems, he shares a similar trait with Hachibi in brute-strength department; however, as Paps mentioned above, I don't think his brain power is equally fare with his strength...
Therefore, undoubtly, he'll end up being a temporary figure... Perhaps, his countdown have already begun. *shrugs*
wind33
09-17-2008, 09:53 AM
First of all let me say that i'm so sick of Sauske chapters i'm about to throw-up!!!Now that that's out of the way...I can't believe that Kishi is stereotyping black people like that...(Strong but dumb)...IF the Raikage just rushes in to the Akatsuki hideout then he's just another black man with all brawn no brains...And if that's true how did he get to be Raikage in the first place? Kages are supposed to have intellegence and great strageties etc...If he gets killed like that i'm boycotting Kishi and this damn series...
PirUnravel
09-17-2008, 10:11 AM
First of all let me say that i'm so sick of Sauske chapters i'm about to throw-up!!!Now that that's out of the way...I can't believe that Kishi is stereotyping black people like that...(Strong but dumb)...IF the Raikage just rushes in to the Akatsuki hideout then he's just another black man with all brawn no brains...And if that's true how did he get to be Raikage in the first place? Kages are supposed to have intellegence and great strageties etc...If he gets killed like that i'm boycotting Kishi and this damn series...
Dude... what are you talking about? Seriously. You need to re-think yourself for a little bit... I think you are mixing up stereotypes that hit a little too close to home with Kishimoto's manga. He is not stereotyping black people, jeez. We haven't even seen what the Raikage will do... sit back... and please chill out.
Anyhoo -- I guess this recent spoiler sounds true... I hope the chapter is more interesting than the spoiler is though. -.- I definitely like the idea of Pain showing up where Kimmimaru died. Badass!
Seraphiel
09-17-2008, 10:13 AM
First of all let me say that i'm so sick of Sauske chapters i'm about to throw-up!!!Now that that's out of the way...I can't believe that Kishi is stereotyping black people like that...(Strong but dumb)...IF the Raikage just rushes in to the Akatsuki hideout then he's just another black man with all brawn no brains...And if that's true how did he get to be Raikage in the first place? Kages are supposed to have intellegence and great strageties etc...If he gets killed like that i'm boycotting Kishi and this damn series...
1.he is doing the right thing.(Sad but true (http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/article2677098.ece?token=null&offset=0))
2.U do that,I hope Sasuke kills him.
LoL we don't know if raikage is stronger than Hachibi,there is a good possibility Sasuke kills him with magekyou.
Hyugumaki
09-17-2008, 10:33 AM
Anyhoo -- I guess this recent spoiler sounds true... I hope the chapter is more interesting than the spoiler is though. -.-
/agree
This looks like a very boring chapter. Kishi has 3.5 months left to shift focus onto Sakura and Kakashi or else he's a lier and spent too much time with Sauske. This is so annoying.
wind33
09-17-2008, 10:50 AM
Dude... what are you talking about? Seriously. You need to re-think yourself for a little bit... I think you are mixing up stereotypes that hit a little too close to home with Kishimoto's manga. He is not stereotyping black people, jeez. We haven't even seen what the Raikage will do... sit back... and please chill out.
Anyhoo -- I guess this recent spoiler sounds true... I hope the chapter is more interesting than the spoiler is though. -.- I definitely like the idea of Pain showing up where Kimmimaru died. Badass!first of all i'm not your "DUDE"...and since you're obviously not black you can't begin to understand the sterotypes that black men have to put up with...2nd, I'm not mixing up anything, How is it that the first sighting of a minority in this series gets beaten by a lame jutsu like Ama. by Suaske after he had been getting his ass handed to him by the 8tj...keep in mind when the 8tj hadn't even evolved yet he was demolishing team Hawk and now when he's in his true form he's gets beat...that shit was so lame on Kishi's behave...Now they're portraying the Raikage as a head strong bully instead of a rational thinking tough shinobi...just to lame for words...
Seraphiel
09-17-2008, 10:56 AM
first of all i'm not your "DUDE"...and since you're obviously not black you can't begin to understand the sterotypes that black men have to put up with...2nd, I'm not mixing up anything, How is it that the first sighting of a minority in this series gets beaten by a lame jutsu like Ama. by Suaske after he had been getting his ass handed to him by the 8tj...keep in mind when the 8tj hadn't even evolved yet he was demolishing team Hawk and now when he's in his true form he's gets beat...that shit was so lame on Kishi's behave...Now they're portraying the Raikage as a head strong bully instead of a rational thinking tough shinobi...just to lame for words...
WTH ama is not lame its blacker than black :D
And U should read the article I posted,its not racism just plain science.
Btw if there are so little black people where are the Indians then I wants Indians(native Americans) in the manga 2.
Your logic phails and so does the 8tails and raikage.
boszz
09-17-2008, 11:02 AM
first of all i'm not your "DUDE"...and since you're obviously not black you can't begin to understand the sterotypes that black men have to put up with...2nd, I'm not mixing up anything, How is it that the first sighting of a minority in this series gets beaten by a lame jutsu like Ama. by Suaske after he had been getting his ass handed to him by the 8tj...keep in mind when the 8tj hadn't even evolved yet he was demolishing team Hawk and now when he's in his true form he's gets beat...that shit was so lame on Kishi's behave...Now they're portraying the Raikage as a head strong bully instead of a rational thinking tough shinobi...just to lame for words...
huh havent you read manga this far?
he's gonna protect his brother with all his might is so much better actions that we have seen so far...
5th one almost sacrifised jyraia and naruto and healed oro who was of the options for hokage ..then you have a guy who was a cold blood murderer as Kage - Gara...
they werent rational thinking shinobi so what? they're still great and have a great role in manga so why cant do the same raikage.. he doesnt need to be like kakashi or whatever. He shows us what kishi was telling as grom the beggining the importance of bonds , he is an answer for us how naruto is gonna be hokage .. he has a power, a heart and a strong will what else you need...
Tazuwukei
09-17-2008, 11:04 AM
Kishi must burn in hell for the sins of another sasugay chapter
wind33
09-17-2008, 11:07 AM
Kishi must burn in hell for the sins of another sasugay chapter
here here!!!
[/QOUTE]And U should read the article I posted,its not racism just plain science.[/QOUTE]
What article are you talking about?
PirUnravel
09-17-2008, 11:21 AM
1.he is doing the right thing.(Sad but true (http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/article2677098.ece?token=null&offset=0))
[smacks you on the head]
I have read much about that subject -- it's bullshit... seriously.
first of all i'm not your "DUDE"...and since you're obviously not black you can't begin to understand the sterotypes that black men have to put up with.
Hmmm... I focus a lot of my time on helping out minorities in my workplace who have been discriminated against for many years. They understand that I am their only link to justice... though they aren't black... I have been involved first-hand with their rise against the shitty racist owner I work for. We both live in the same racist state... and I do understand stereotypes... but Kishimoto is not displaying one.
Btw if there are so little black people where are the Indians then I wants Indians(native Americans) in the manga 2.
Your logic phails and so does the 8tails and raikage.
Heh... the Native Americans have been utterly stripped of their dignity. It is one of the saddest cases of racial discrimination ever. They have all been bulldozed onto reservations where they are expected to run casinos to survive.
:focus:
I am seriously finally getting sick of Sasuke too... I am really hoping for more Pain... and not just a dick tease of him walking... or talking about walking... or talking about leaving to walk. :tsk:
Murdock
09-17-2008, 11:31 AM
Wow Kishi and his math ... he said half year of Sasuke :D it's end of september nearly and still about SAsuke i am waiting to Sakura and Kakashi ... hmm guess Kishi skipped some years at grammar school ... this shows that he has no outline ...
anyway Raikage seems cool ... kinda wanna see him fight
SpikeUchiha
09-17-2008, 11:33 AM
I recall the cloud village being kidnappers they went for hinata.And lied about it, even after peace treaties I'm glad the tailed beasts are gone it should of been neji to get the 8tj... After all his father is gone cuz of the cloud village.
Herumor
09-17-2008, 11:34 AM
WTH ama is not lame its blacker than black :D
And U should read the article I posted,its not racism just plain science.
Btw if there are so little black people where are the Indians then I wants Indians(native Americans) in the manga 2.
Your logic phails and so does the 8tails and raikage.
There's a difference between black fire and black people, least last tiem I check there was. . . (Correct me if I'm wrong there). But yeah, flaunting 'sicentific' thing like that don't do anything but get people pissed off at you. What's the point? But of course the Raikaga will phail just like the 8TJ, for Sauske is Kishi's secret lover and has his miracle no jutsu. I hope he fights somebody other then Sauske so he stands a chance . . . After all he is a Kage, and therefore (supposedly) one of the five strongest shinobi (But against Kishis's luv he is nothing more then a genin).
I second winds thoughts. The 8TJ was wiping the floor with Taka even before he transformed, so in theory (this term must be used liberally when a main character is fighting) shouldn't he be exponentially more powerful when he transforms into a manifestation of his tailed beast? I guess what wind is getting at is not so much Sauske defeating the 8TJ (which we all know was inevitable), but rather that he did it one attack against which the mighty bull cried like a bitch. :tsk:
Then you have a guy who was a cold blood murderer as Kage - Gara...
they werent rational thinking shinobi so what? they're still great and have a great role in manga so why cant do the same raikage.. he doesnt need to be like kakashi or whatever. He shows us what kishi was telling as grom the beggining the importance of bonds , he is an answer for us how naruto is gonna be hokage .. he has a power, a heart and a strong will what else you need...
Gaara, when he was Kage was far from being irrational. He gave up his life in order to protect his village (That's not something lacking rational thought). And as for Sauske having a heart. . . He's talking to Mandara about killing everyone in Konoha, that doesn't seem like someone with a heart imo.
Seraphiel
09-17-2008, 11:43 AM
[smacks you on the head]
I have read much about that subject -- it's bullshit... seriously.
Hmmm... I focus a lot of my time on helping out minorities in my workplace who have been discriminated against for many years. They understand that I am their only link to justice... though they aren't black... I have been involved first-hand with their rise against the shitty racist owner I work for. We both live in the same racist state... and I do understand stereotypes... but Kishimoto is not displaying one.
Heh... the Native Americans have been utterly stripped of their dignity. It is one of the saddest cases of racial discrimination ever. They have all been bulldozed onto reservations where they are expected to run casinos to survive.
:focus:
I am seriously finally getting sick of Sasuke too... I am really hoping for more Pain... and not just a dick tease of him walking... or talking about walking... or talking about leaving to walk. :tsk:
rofl
Nah he is boring we should get even more sasuke without narutos training.
wind33
09-17-2008, 11:48 AM
1.he is doing the right thing.(Sad but true (http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/article2677098.ece?token=null&offset=0))
2.U do that,I hope Sasuke kills him.
LoL we don't know if raikage is stronger than Hachibi,there is a good possibility Sasuke kills him with magekyou.I just finished reading that article and it seems to me that the entire scientific community thinks that your Noble Prize winning scientist (Dr. James Wartson) was just a racist pig with no real eveidence that his theory was true...so the only conclusion i can come to with regards to you is that you must be suffering under the same delusion as Dr. Watson...Now you must understand that i'm not saying that people like you aren't necessary...as a matter of fact i think that people who believe the way you do have every right to be ignorant. After all, if you believe that there is a direct correlation between intellegence and skin color then there is very little that i, or anyone else for that matter, can do for you...
Sorry everyone i didnt' mean to turn this into a race debate...please except my most humble apologies...Now back on topic...
We want more Naruto!!! Or just Less Sauske!!!
Seraphiel
09-17-2008, 11:53 AM
I just finished reading that article and it seems to me that the entire scientific community thinks that your Noble Prize winning scientist (Dr. James Wartson) was just a racist pig with no real eveidence that his theory was true...so the only conclusion i can come to with regards to you is that you must be suffering under the same delusion as Dr. Watson...Now you must understand that i'm not saying that people like you aren't necessary...as a matter of fact i think that people who believe the way you do have every right to be ignorant. After all, if you believe that there is a direct correlation between intellegence and skin color then there is very little that i, or anyone else for that matter, can do for you...
Sorry everyone i didnt' mean to turn this into a race debate...please except my most humble apologies...Now back on topic...
We want more Naruto!!! Or just Less Sauske!!!
Yes lets just stop here.
And this year is about Sasuke.
So w8 your turn :D
NordicPrincess
09-17-2008, 12:19 PM
More blacks? I wonder why Kishimoto does this? Maybe he was forced to.
Anyway, I think it seems pretty cool if Sasuke has this plan and now involving the blacks. But Iīm dissapionted as well. I wanted them to go to Konoha as quickly as possible, but it seems a fight will happen before that.
Erotique
09-17-2008, 12:48 PM
When I was stationed in Sasebo, Japan in year 2000, many Japanese teenagers were undergoing this Hip Hop culture. It was odd listening to their Nihonjin-style street rap... lol
Anyhow, I honestly don't care much of how our next chapter will go. I've been Sasufied long enough, I think I actually built some sort of tolerence by now. More screen-time for Naruto would be nice for once, but if not, then *shrugs* whatever...
Edit:
Yes lets just stop here.
And this year is about Sasuke.
So w8 your turn :D
Seraph, that is just wrong...
wind33
09-17-2008, 12:57 PM
More blacks? I wonder why Kishimoto does this? Maybe he was forced to.
Anyway, I think it seems pretty cool if Sasuke has this plan and now involving the blacks. But Iīm dissapionted as well. I wanted them to go to Konoha as quickly as possible, but it seems a fight will happen before that.maybe in the world that you imagine in your mind, black people don't exist...But in the real world the earth is more populated with people of the darker persuasion than their counter parts...And let me drop a little science on you...The difference in lighter skin and darker skin people has very little to do with genetics so much as geology...you see, your envioronment determines the make up of your outter appearence...People with dark pigmentation in their skin have decedents that are from places in the world that are prone to more sun light and so the body adapts so in can survive in that environment...and conversely people with light pigmentation have decendents from environments that has less sun and their bodies adapted to that environment...So you see if everyone was from the same part of the world we would all look, act a probably talk the same...WE ARE THE SAME CREATURE...you ever wonder why animals of different species CAN'T make babies, it's because they are not the same...White people and black people CAN make babie because we are the same...End of lesson!!!
blind
09-17-2008, 01:05 PM
maybe in the world that you imagine in your mind, black people don't exist...But in the real world the earth is more populated with people of the darker persuasion than their counter parts...And let me drop a little science on you...The difference in lighter skin and darker skin people has very little to do with genetics so much as geology...you see, your envioronment determines the make up of your outter appearence...People with dark pigmentation in their skin have decedents that are from places in the world that are prone to more sun light and so the body adapts so in can survive in that environment...and conversely people with light pigmentation have decendents from environments that has less sun and their bodies adapted to that environment...So you see if everyone was from the same part of the world we would all look, act a probably talk the same...WE ARE THE SAME CREATURE...you ever wonder why animals of different species CAN'T make babies, it's because they are not the same...White people and black people CAN make babie because we are the same...End of lesson!!!
....I think she means she's disappointed that they're spending so much time on Sasuke, when there are other story lines to be pursued, not because of their skin color.
NordicPrincess
09-17-2008, 01:17 PM
maybe in the world that you imagine in your mind, black people don't exist...But in the real world the earth is more populated with people of the darker persuasion than their counter parts...And let me drop a little science on you...The difference in lighter skin and darker skin people has very little to do with genetics so much as geology...you see, your envioronment determines the make up of your outter appearence...People with dark pigmentation in their skin have decedents that are from places in the world that are prone to more sun light and so the body adapts so in can survive in that environment...and conversely people with light pigmentation have decendents from environments that has less sun and their bodies adapted to that environment...So you see if everyone was from the same part of the world we would all look, act a probably talk the same...WE ARE THE SAME CREATURE...you ever wonder why animals of different species CAN'T make babies, it's because they are not the same...White people and black people CAN make babie because we are the same...End of lesson!!!
What happened now? :confused:
I just meant it is such a change in the serie. From no blacks to so many.
There is no need for you to react that way.
And btw, you said something weird there. Different species canīt have babies yes, but different races can. If you thought I was being racist that is, cause I donīt even think racists say weīre a different specie, just a different race.
Hellspawn0707
09-17-2008, 01:19 PM
"I have a dream that genins will one day grow up and become great ninjas that will not be judged by the color of their skin, but by their skill and commitment to their nindo." Guys last time I checked Kishi was of Asian descent and he has characters of differents races so I doubt he is a racists lets just enjoy the Manga and stop having a race debate.
wind33
09-17-2008, 01:21 PM
....I think she means she's disappointed that they're spending so much time on Sasuke, when there are other story lines to be pursued, not because of their skin color.Well if that's the case then i'm disappointed as well...Getting really tiredof r3eading about sharigans and Ama. Please Kishi from the bottom of my heart break up with Suaske and find a new lover...Maybe kakashi or Sakura...Hell i wouldn't even mind Shino at this point...
NordicPrincess
09-17-2008, 01:29 PM
Has Kishimoto forgotten that he was going to focus on Kakashi and Sakura? Itīs only a couple of months left of the year.
I love Sasuke, but this is actually starting to get boring. I want a change. With either Kakashi or Sakura.
wind33
09-17-2008, 01:33 PM
"I have a dream that genins will one day grow up and become great ninjas that will not be judged by the color of their skin, but by their skill and commitment to their nindo." Guys last time I checked Kishi was of Asian descent and he has characters of differents races so I doubt he is a racists lets just enjoy the Manga and stop having a race debate.That's hillarious Hell...the remixed "I Have A Dream " speech...classic...lol
Itachi_the_Feared_One
09-17-2008, 02:07 PM
According to the spoiler pics, Raikage has lined up some good looking kunoichi, to track down Sasuke..they look like a recon squad......I bet sasuke will impregnate them before even the fight starts.....:biggrin1:
Csdabest
09-17-2008, 02:12 PM
KISHI said that this year he will focus on Sasuke....After that its Sakura and kakashi. i think people GREATLY misunderstood what he was trying to say Me i dont expect him to focus on them till about mid january
Raido
09-17-2008, 02:15 PM
I think Sasuke really wants to kill Madara, because he remembers, that Madara helped Itachi to wipe out the Uchiha clan. However, i don't understand Madara's motivation... Why?
Hellspawn0707
09-17-2008, 02:17 PM
According to the spoiler pics, Raikage has lined up some good looking kunoichi, to track down Sasuke..they look like a recon squad......I bet sasuke will impregnate them before even the fight starts.....:biggrin1:
Sasuke has had his chance to get laid plenty of times and he has turned it down, in fact the only person he has kissed was Naruto.
Karin<3
09-17-2008, 02:20 PM
I agree with NordicPrincess, black people in Naruto feel so rushed & forced, plus in most mangas (especially in this one) they are uncool and in general not very pleasant to look at.
Hellspawn0707
09-17-2008, 02:25 PM
I agree with NordicPrincess, black people in Naruto feel so rushed & forced, plus in most mangas (especially in this one) they are uncool and in general not very pleasant to look at.
Are you serious we ended the race debate, why don't we talk about the current story line not the color of characters.
Karin<3
09-17-2008, 02:49 PM
Are you serious we ended the race debate, why don't we talk about the current story line not the color of characters.
Im not here to debate im here to state my opinion about the manga design.
boszz
09-17-2008, 03:08 PM
huh it really does look interesting even thought we know that ssasuke will not die from their hands but things that they target only him ( not like they blame konoha for that is good news cause it would be to stupid to do that)
Csdabest
09-17-2008, 03:13 PM
Man..Cloud seems to have some sexy female ninjas. Kage's Angels in the building yall. i hope they dont end up being fodder in a fight
Gman47
09-17-2008, 03:41 PM
Man..Cloud seems to have some sexy female ninjas. Kage's Angels in the building yall. i hope they dont end up being fodder in a fight
I agree lawl, let's hope not :thumb:
Erotique
09-17-2008, 03:45 PM
I know this is kinda weird coming from me but, I sort of miss Black Pride (R.I.P.) now... I don't know why...
@Wind33: Speaking to you in a rice-eater's point of view (Hell, I'm an asian, I'm practically a minority within a minority -_- ...) I, like everyone else here, believes that Kishi's illustration was not intended towards racial stereotype, but his lack of understanding of how uber our African American brothers' natures and demeanors are. His poor illustration via lack of understanding shouldn't be dumped into a racial-bash department (but I can understand why it "appeared" that way...)
Oh, wait, the racial topic is over? *crickets* Right... moving on...
Killerbee, Kakuzu, and soon our newly introduced Raikage, are all designed to meet (and to deliver) a certain purpose. Just like Paps mentioned not too long ago, they are specifically engineered to become... hmm... shall we say... a "punching bag" for our main characters. Perhaps Kishi is realizing that he is taking too much time on his main squeeze already. Did he actually heeded our cry for a change? *shrugs* The reason why I'm saying this is because he seems to be in hurry now a days... Which means, he wants to finish this and move on to something else... (Aka. members dropping like flies, Sasugay gaining insane amount of power in less than three volumes, meeting Itachi mano yi mano, killing him off and thus finishing Sasu/Ita chronicle is an example... *phew*)
But then again, Kishi's story these days are all too easy to predict in terms of general direction. And seeing how Raikage is designed and illustrated (poor one, no doubt), I can already tell he'll be a temporary one...
-The End-
Gman47
09-17-2008, 03:52 PM
I know this is kinda weird coming from me but, I sort of miss Black Pride (R.I.P.) now... I don't know why...
@Wind33: Speaking to you in a rice-eater's point of view (Hell, I'm an asian, I'm practically a minority within a minority -_- ...) I, like everyone else here, believes that Kishi's illustration was not intended towards racial stereotype, but his lack of understanding of how uber our African American brothers' natures and demeanors are. His poor illustration via lack of understanding shouldn't be dumped into a racial-bash department (but I can understand why it "appeared" that way...)
Oh, wait, the racial topic is over? *crickets* Right... moving on...
Killerbee, Kakuzu, and soon our newly introduced Raikage, are all designed to meet (and to deliver) a certain purpose. Just like Paps mentioned not too long ago, they are specifically engineered to become... hmm... shall we say... a "punching bag" for our main characters. Perhaps Kishi is realizing that he is taking too much time on his main squeeze already. Did he actually heeded our cry for a change? *shrugs*
But then again, Kishi's story these days are all too easy to predict in terms of general direction. And seeing how Raikage is designed and illustrated (poor one, no doubt), I can already tell he'll be a temporary one...
-The End-
Yea I know right, Idk why people make a big deal out of it, after all Cloud, is in another country, I think the diveristy of style of characters is nice, more people from Cloud probably look like that, and then there's the traditional Leaf look. It's not bad if you ask me, I like it, they have it in Bleach as well.
Anyways back to the topic, I also think that these characters and Raikage are all in there to be the punching bags, but I think they'll put up a somewhat of a bigger fight like the 8 tails did. :D
WjRgX
09-17-2008, 04:02 PM
Does Sasuke have a new power or is it Ama. that he is refering too?
Erotique
09-17-2008, 04:04 PM
Sasuke, apparently, have an ability to quench an unquenchable fire...
I know it sounds paradoxical... but there it is...
*shrugs*
-Cheers-
boszz
09-17-2008, 04:07 PM
i think he is talking about amaterasu well its one of the most powerfull jutsu so far so why woild he want a bijuu when he taked one with his doujutsu
ACPRO
09-17-2008, 04:11 PM
i think he is talking about amaterasu well its one of the most powerfull jutsu so far so why woild he want a bijuu when he taked one with his doujutsu
because a bijuu would still give him more chakra and stamina to use those doujutsu's without to much pause. And we can assume since he will probably kill madara some way or another, is that madara probably also ahd the ability to take out ameratsu since he already did it when itachi "secretly" gave sasuke the ability to use it.
Erotique
09-17-2008, 04:23 PM
i think he is talking about amaterasu well its one of the most powerfull jutsu so far so why woild he want a bijuu when he taked one with his doujutsu
Oopse, didn't read the spoiler up until now. rofl. Now I understand...
It's kinda sucks that perhaps, a one shot of Amaterasu will actually be sufficient to destroy a village (not too sure about entire country though) for it burns 7 days and 7 nights, and they tends to "spread" just like real fires.
Not to mention that they are "supposedly" unquenchable which makes it a nuke version of Greek Fire...
boszz
09-17-2008, 04:28 PM
Oopse, didn't read the spoiler up until now. rofl. Now I understand...
It's kinda sucks that perhaps, a one shot of Amaterasu will actually be sufficient to destroy a village (not too sure about entire country though) for it burns 7 days and 7 nights, and they tends to "spread" just like real fires.
Not to mention that they are "supposedly" unquenchable which makes it a nuke version of Greek Fire...
l kakashi can use his MS to send them away or Tenzou or any jounin with earth affinity move flames aside so its not like konoha is totally defenceless afainst it
because a bijuu would still give him more chakra and stamina to use those doujutsu's without to much pause. And we can assume since he will probably kill madara some way or another, is that madara probably also ahd the ability to take out ameratsu since he already did it when itachi "secretly" gave sasuke the ability to use it.
well yes i agree that would give him more power ( jezz kishi dont even think about it) but he only wanted "power to crush" konoha and there you are.. he gets jutsu more powerfull than the power of the bijuu so he doesnt need it to accomplish his plan
Seraphiel
09-17-2008, 04:36 PM
Oopse, didn't read the spoiler up until now. rofl. Now I understand...
It's kinda sucks that perhaps, a one shot of Amaterasu will actually be sufficient to destroy a village (not too sure about entire country though) for it burns 7 days and 7 nights, and they tends to "spread" just like real fires.
Not to mention that they are "supposedly" unquenchable which makes it a nuke version of Greek Fire...
Well 7 days and 7 nights is not correct,it burns until it burns everything to a crisp.
and his eyes already getting fucked?
is kishi a retard,itachi should have been blind in the fight then.
Erotique
09-17-2008, 04:38 PM
l kakashi can use his MS to send them away or Tenzou or any jounin with earth affinity move flames aside so its not like konoha is totally defenceless afainst it
True.
But then again, Amaterasu burns EVERYTHING in its path, and as you witnessed during Sasu/Itachi fight, the fire divided by the land actually managed to reconnect themselves. Sure, Kakashi could, perhaps, send the fires to another dimension; however, it all depends on the scope of fire itself. If Kakashi catches the fire early enough, I'm sure he may be able to send them out; however, if he catch the fire too late, he cannot pew pew vanish them for he'll pass out after 3 shots of his MS (sad, but true...).
Edit:
Well 7 days and 7 nights is not correct,it burns until it burns everything to a crisp.
Wait, it isn't? I thought I read it on the Manga sectio... oh wait a minute, did I just slipped into a Tengu Theory again? >.<
Seraphiel
09-17-2008, 04:41 PM
True.
But then again, Amaterasu burns EVERYTHING in its path, and as you witnessed during Sasu/Itachi fight, the fire divided by the land actually managed to reconnect themselves. Sure, Kakashi could, perhaps, send the fires to another dimension; however, it all depends on the scope of fire itself. If Kakashi catches the fire early enough, I'm sure he may be able to send them out; however, if he catch the fire too late, he cannot pew pew vanish them for he'll pass out after 3 shots of his MS (sad, but true...).
Edit:
Wait, it isn't? I thought I read it on the Manga sectio... oh wait a minute, did I just slipped into a Tengu Theory again? >.<
Nop at first the tale was that it burns for 7 n/d but zetsu said it burns till it reduces everything or the target to a crisp.
blind
09-17-2008, 04:50 PM
Databook does say it burns for 7 days and nights, Zetsu juts generalized because what would be left after burning 7 days and nights?
http://mangahelpers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=395
Seraphiel
09-17-2008, 04:55 PM
Databook does say it burns for 7 days and nights, Zetsu juts generalized because what would be left after burning 7 days and nights?
http://mangahelpers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=395
The ground?
blind
09-17-2008, 04:58 PM
The ground?
The ground doesn't really burn, or keeps the fire going. If there's nothing left to burn, then the fire will be put out.
Seraphiel
09-17-2008, 04:59 PM
The ground doesn't really burn, or keeps the fire going. If there's nothing left to burn, then the fire will be put out.
U have to consider that what zetsu stated happened after databook 2 so we an agree to disagree.
blind
09-17-2008, 05:01 PM
U have to consider that what zetsu stated happened after databook 2 so we an agree to disagree.
Yes, but obviously his observations doesn't include the ground. How would the ground just burn on it's own, when there's nothing to burn anyways? His generalization still holds true. Everytime we've seen Amaterasu it's burning something, trees, stomach tissue, clothing, etc..
Seraphiel
09-17-2008, 05:02 PM
Yes, but obviously his observations doesn't include the ground. How would the ground just burn on it's own, when there's nothing to burn anyways? His generalization still holds true. Everytime we've seen Amaterasu it's burning something, trees, stomach tissue, clothing, etc..
I agree but lets say he puts the amazon on fire it would burn for more than 7 days
blind
09-17-2008, 05:05 PM
I agree but lets say he puts the amazon on fire it would burn for more than 7 days
Would it? Fires spread amongst trees, and after 7 days, everything will be burned up. Even if it doesn't, this Amaterasu is a jutsu, a product of usage of chakra. When it "uses up" the chakra that was put in, it'll be put out, just like any other jutsu.
br4nd0nh347
09-17-2008, 05:22 PM
Would it? Fires spread amongst trees, and after 7 days, everything will be burned up. Even if it doesn't, this Amaterasu is a jutsu, a product of usage of chakra. When it "uses up" the chakra that was put in, it'll be put out, just like any other jutsu.
Are you sure?
I always though of it as like a the jutsu sets the things on fire and after that the fire keeps consuming everything. It doesn't use the users chakra constantly for seven days, that doesn't seem right.
blind
09-17-2008, 05:25 PM
Are you sure?
I always though of it as like a the jutsu sets the things on fire and after that the fire keeps consuming everything. It doesn't use the users chakra constantly for seven days, that doesn't seem right.
If that's the case, then there's truly no distinction between a regular Katon jutsu and Amaterasu, aside from color, which I doubt.
rasenproc
09-17-2008, 05:30 PM
wow this chapter looks so so lame.... except that saskue is goin blind
Tssss even if Raikage fights against Sasuke, there's no way Sasuke is gonna lose. Enough Kishi enough. We all get what you're getting at: The unbeatable and evil rival who wants revenge. Now please move on before some of your readers stop reading. Seriously, this is ridiculous...
SpikeUchiha
09-17-2008, 05:33 PM
Would it? Fires spread amongst trees, and after 7 days, everything will be burned up. Even if it doesn't, this Amaterasu is a jutsu, a product of usage of chakra. When it "uses up" the chakra that was put in, it'll be put out, just like any other jutsu.
Fires start when a flammable or combustible material with supply of oxygen or is subjected to enough heat.
Therefore, the elements of fire are
1. a combustible substance(a substance that can catch fire)
2. Oxygen or an oxidiser
3. Adequate Heat
Amaterasu is kinda like an anti-fire one that burn on its own and at users will
1:it still needs fuel but as a anti-fire it can burn on a non combustible substance(toad wall)
2:it dont need oxygen (burns under water 8tj)
3:it burns fire itself..
its what i think..
0m3gA
09-17-2008, 05:34 PM
amaterasu is a black flame that will continue to burn till the object turned to ashes ..
and it really cant be put out unless it is willed by the user ....
katon jutsu is just a fire jutsu that once cast its pretty much gone..unless of course u cast it into a forest or something then it will burn longer... but its nowhere close to amaterasu...
remember when itachi used it against jiraiyas frog stomach prison or whatever..
when itachi went after naruto..and pwned sasuke... he used amaterasu to break out of that frog stomach and jiraiya commented that it was impossible to get out of .. so its level of power is definitely diff from a katon jutsu
rasenproc
09-17-2008, 05:42 PM
amaterasu is a black flame that will continue to burn till the object turned to ashes ..
and it really cant be put out unless it is willed by the user ....
katon jutsu is just a fire jutsu that once cast its pretty much gone..unless of course u cast it into a forest or something then it will burn longer... but its nowhere close to amaterasu...
remember when itachi used it against jiraiyas frog stomach prison or whatever..
when itachi went after naruto..and pwned sasuke... he used amaterasu to break out of that frog stomach and jiraiya commented that it was impossible to get out of .. so its level of power is definitely diff from a katon jutsu
not to mention it was a toad who eats fire or somethin to that nature
papfles
09-17-2008, 06:12 PM
Hmmm, a possible kage summit... seems more in line of what a kage should do.
wonder how this'll turn out with madara as the mizukage...
And I wonder what this new "power" is that Sasuke is talking about... All I can think of is "control of amaterasu" or he's thinking of actually taking Itachi's eyes since his eyesight is fading already (yay Itachi blood :p)
Seraphiel
09-17-2008, 06:22 PM
Hmmm, a possible kage summit... seems more in line of what a kage should do.
wonder how this'll turn out with madara as the mizukage...
And I wonder what this new "power" is that Sasuke is talking about... All I can think of is "control of amaterasu" or he's thinking of actually taking Itachi's eyes since his eyesight is fading already (yay Itachi blood :p)
+pein is the ruler of rain village,idk if it ever had a kage.Hanzou perhaps?
ACPRO
09-17-2008, 06:23 PM
Hmmm, a possible kage summit... seems more in line of what a kage should do.
wonder how this'll turn out with madara as the mizukage...
And I wonder what this new "power" is that Sasuke is talking about... All I can think of is "control of amaterasu" or he's thinking of actually taking Itachi's eyes since his eyesight is fading already (yay Itachi blood :p)
he should have just taken itachis eyes to begin with and said in this chapter, "now my brother is apart of me" *slit wrists*
Erotique
09-17-2008, 06:26 PM
You know Paps...
When Orochimaru first coveted Sasuke, we were later discovered that Sasuke (being an amateur schemer compares to 50+ years Oro) outfoxed Oro and captured him. Now shortly after Oro's fall, Madara is taking Sasuke under his wing, similar to that of what Oro have done in the past.
Now, the image of Sasu/Oro relationship was an old lion raising a lion cub, who later, outfoxed the old lion and rose triumphantly. However, in my personal point of view, Oro wasn't just a typical old lion, but a lion that had strength, cunning, and the brain to match his S-rank status. However, the fall of Oro, once again in my own personal opinion, was quite wrong to a certain degree. It was as if, Oro's brain and his scheming ability just went down to zero and then all of a sudden, became naive and believed everything that Sasugay portrayed, up until the point of betrayal. Like, Oro's quote, "I knew it would come to this" would've justify that he knew it all along... In realistic point of view, wouldn't you rather be more cautious and think of several other escape plans before making any such hasty move? ESPECIALLY if it was up to Oro the veteran of betrayal?
So in my point of view, I believe Madara may end up facing a similar fate. Maybe I'm wrong, but I can almost smell Sasugay plotting something against Madara. Madara's deception amongst his Aka. members is impressive enough. I mean, seriously, hiding behind 8 Aka. members and puppetering behind the curtain is quite something to behold, especially when all those puppets are all S-ranked criminals. This is a mastermind amongst mastermind we're talking about...
But I have this premonition that Madara will meet a similar fate that Oro had... And as for Sasugay, I believe when the time comes, Kishi will boost Sasugay's scheming ability up to a S-rank and portray Madara as a fool...
papfles
09-17-2008, 06:33 PM
+pein is the ruler of rain village,idk if it ever had a kage.Hanzou perhaps?
True, but the rain village is not one of the major five if I'm not mistaken
Fire - Sand - Cloud - Water - Rock, no?
But I have this premonition that Madara will meet a similar fate that Oro had... And as for Sasugay, I believe when the time comes, Kishi will boost Sasugay's scheming ability up to a S-rank and portray Madara as a fool...
Hmm, I hope kishi doesn't pull a "second time around"-trick though. We've seen betrayal before so Sasuke doing it again, with (supposedly) an even stronger / better opponent would be overkill
"now my brother is apart of me"
"My brother is in me" would've been the phrase of the century though >_>
Seraphiel
09-17-2008, 06:37 PM
True, but the rain village is not one of the major five if I'm not mistaken
Fire - Sand - Cloud - Water - Rock, no?
Hmm, I hope kishi doesn't pull a "second time around"-trick though. We've seen betrayal before so Sasuke doing it again, with (supposedly) an even stronger / better opponent would be overkill
"My brother is in me" would've been the phrase of the century though >_>
That's what I didn't know so I said if it ever had a kage.
wind33
09-17-2008, 06:40 PM
+pein is the ruler of rain village,idk if it ever had a kage.Hanzou perhaps? The rain village never had a Kage...It was a village made up of refuges that came there because of the ninja wars...
papfles
09-17-2008, 06:40 PM
That's what I didn't know so I said if it ever had a kage.
Who needs a kage when you have a god :p
Seraphiel
09-17-2008, 06:43 PM
Who needs a kage when you have a god :p
Seriously,now konoha needs Sasuke and they win.
And the my brother is in me just ROFL PAP.
@wind ur late
papfles
09-17-2008, 06:49 PM
Seriously,now konoha needs Sasuke and they win.
Well, if the current chapter is accurate and his eyesight is already going byebye.. He'll need Itachi's eyes, and that's exactly what madara wanted.. so I wonder why madara pushed him to do so... (and this might be why he sent him for the 8-tails.. forcing him to use amaterasu / his MS, and get him crawling back for those eyes)
Erotique
09-17-2008, 06:54 PM
Well, if the current chapter is accurate and his eyesight is already going byebye.. He'll need Itachi's eyes, and that's exactly what madara wanted.. so I wonder why madara pushed him to do so... (and this might be why he sent him for the 8-tails.. forcing him to use amaterasu / his MS, and get him crawling back for those eyes)
I see Madara digging his own grave IF that's true. Ofcourse, Kishi will illustrate that "it's all part of Madara's plan"... BS, but if that's indeed true, then Madara is no different than Oro of the past.
nagato
09-17-2008, 07:00 PM
i think its kinda i cant say the word but with naruto and sasuke becoming so beastly in just like 7 chapters there almost at a lvl with most akatsuki or are at a lvl with akatsuki. thats way to fast cause i want them to go nice and slow that naruto will last like forever. and if that 1 manga chapter is somehow idk how but true then naruto becomes like pein godly mastering all that stuff but genjutsu in 1 chapter.
papfles
09-17-2008, 07:13 PM
i think its kinda i cant say the word but with naruto and sasuke becoming so beastly in just like 7 chapters there almost at a lvl with most akatsuki or are at a lvl with akatsuki. thats way to fast cause i want them to go nice and slow that naruto will last like forever. and if that 1 manga chapter is somehow idk how but true then naruto becomes like pein godly mastering all that stuff but genjutsu in 1 chapter.
I think you've been reading the fake spoilers...
NOthing in the confirmed spoiler says anything about Naruto having mastered everything (quite the opposite)
nagato
09-17-2008, 07:31 PM
I think you've been reading the fake spoilers...
NOthing in the confirmed spoiler says anything about Naruto having mastered everything (quite the opposite)
ik that but naruto being able to use natural chakra and sasuke with his ms. kinda very big power boosts.
Erotique
09-17-2008, 07:35 PM
Maybe he's referring that perhaps, Naruto may master all the jutsus like Pein have (wielding six elements and Jiraiya's claim about mastering all the jutsu that he taught him and etc. etc. etc...).
@Nagato: Not to be rude in any sense, but try using commas next time...
~cheers~ :D
Herumor
09-17-2008, 07:51 PM
Man..Cloud seems to have some sexy female ninjas. Kage's Angels in the building yall. i hope they dont end up being fodder in a fight
If they go up against Sauske they will surely be either killed or turn into Sauske luvers themselves :mad:
l kakashi can use his MS to send them away or Tenzou or any jounin with earth affinity move flames aside so its not like konoha is totally defenceless against it
Yes, but obviously his observations doesn't include the ground. How would the ground just burn on it's own, when there's nothing to burn anyways? His generalization still holds true. Everytime we've seen Amaterasu it's burning something, trees, stomach tissue, clothing, etc..
If Amat can even burn fire, couldn't it burn the earth that made up the fissure Yamato made? Or did somebody seal it like Jiraiya did back when Itachi came back to Konoha?
Hmmm, a possible kage summit... seems more in line of what a kage should do.
wonder how this'll turn out with madara as the mizukage...
And I wonder what this new "power" is that Sasuke is talking about... All I can think of is "control of amaterasu" or he's thinking of actually taking Itachi's eyes since his eyesight is fading already (yay Itachi blood :p)
The Kage summit kind of seems to contradict what we've seen so far but it's interesting so I guess I'll roll with it. I didn't think Mandara was the current Mizukage (I thought he was a previous one), but I could be wrong there.
nagato
09-17-2008, 08:16 PM
Maybe he's referring that perhaps, Naruto may master all the jutsus like Pein have (wielding six elements and Jiraiya's claim about mastering all the jutsu that he taught him and etc. etc. etc...).
@Nagato: Not to be rude in any sense, but try using commas next time...
~cheers~ :D
OK..............
PirUnravel
09-17-2008, 08:33 PM
he should have just taken itachis eyes to begin with and said in this chapter, "now my brother is apart of me" *slit wrists*
lmfao @ slits wrists
Sasuke is betraying Madara. We have seen the recurring theme of compassion towards his enemies, even after he listened to the teary-eyed Itachi and Madara stories about the Uchiha. The grand drama will eventually have Sasuke as a good boy again... but it will probably be too late.
ACPRO
09-17-2008, 09:35 PM
Well, if the current chapter is accurate and his eyesight is already going byebye.. He'll need Itachi's eyes, and that's exactly what madara wanted.. so I wonder why madara pushed him to do so... (and this might be why he sent him for the 8-tails.. forcing him to use amaterasu / his MS, and get him crawling back for those eyes)
Anyone else think that he might take Madaras eyes? Would be quite some irony since madara took away his little brothers and sasuke takes those eyes from him.
Spirit-Sage
09-17-2008, 10:32 PM
I dunno, so many possibilities at the moment. But one outcome that seems more probable than other is sasuke taking Itachi's eyes, Perhaps madara will take one of sasuke's new EMS, thus having 2 different EMS's, one in his exposed eye, and one in his hidden eye. EMS+EMS will probably be the strongest out of the three dojutsus. My lil Rinnegan avatar will be dust and tumbleweed :(
blind
09-17-2008, 10:40 PM
Anyone else think that he might take Madaras eyes? Would be quite some irony since madara took away his little brothers and sasuke takes those eyes from him.
Wouldn't do him much good, as taking some random Uchiha's eyes wouldn't do anything. If anything, he would take Itachi's eyes that Madara has.
NordicPrincess
09-17-2008, 10:41 PM
Sasuke will probably die before he goes blind so it doesnīt really matter if he takes Madaras eyes or not.
blind
09-17-2008, 10:44 PM
Sasuke will probably die before he goes blind so it doesnīt really matter if he takes Madaras eyes or not.
The way he's going, if he's missing the cup like that already, it seems like he's already at Itachi's stage, when he fought Sasuke, if he keeps using MS (and he will, if he goes to Konoha), he'll definitely go blind during battle.
NordicPrincess
09-17-2008, 10:49 PM
Yeah maybe.
But taking someones eyes, I just donīt see Sasuke doing that. Even if it is Madara, who he doesnīt seem to like.
And seeing Sasuke handling a battle while heīs blind would be quite interesting, since it will never happen.
But as I said, I still think heīll die before he goes completely blind.
blind
09-17-2008, 10:52 PM
Yeah maybe.
But taking someones eyes, I just donīt see Sasuke doing that. Even if it is Madara, who he doesnīt seem to like.
And seeing Sasuke handling a battle while heīs blind would be quite interesting, since it will never happen.
But as I said, I still think heīll die before he goes completely blind.
Itachi's? Especially after he's found out he's done everything to protect him, taking himeyes doesn't seem so bad now.
I highly doubt he'll go blind at all in the series.
NordicPrincess
09-17-2008, 10:59 PM
Itachi's? Especially after he's found out he's done everything to protect him, taking himeyes doesn't seem so bad now.
I highly doubt he'll go blind at all in the series.
Oh god. I donīt think I get this. Iīm sorry for my lack in english.
But if I got you right my answer is this; he will never touch Itachis eyes. That would be very cruel of him to do.
And yes, this I agree on.
blind
09-17-2008, 11:01 PM
Oh god. I donīt think I get this. Iīm sorry for my lack in english.
But if I got you right my answer is this; he will never touch Itachis eyes. That would be very cruel of him to do.
And yes, this I agree on.
Yeah, that's exactly what I mean, I think he'll take Itachi's eyes. He make his "Itachi and I don't share the same vision" speech before he made the "Itachi protected me at all costs, I will avenge him" speech. It would be very fitting for him to use Itachi's eyes to exact revenge on those who caused him pain.
NordicPrincess
09-17-2008, 11:04 PM
Do you really think so? I mean Itachi wouldnīt even approve of Sasuke killing everyone, but also using Itachis eyes to do so. Thatīs just too much I think.
blind
09-17-2008, 11:07 PM
Do you really think so? I mean Itachi wouldnīt even approve of Sasuke killing everyone, but also using Itachis eyes to do so. Thatīs just too much I think.
Itachi also wouldn't approve of Sasuke joining Madara, but it's not like he has much say over the matter. The thing is that with Sasuke is that he's so bent on avenging Itachi, he'll want to do anything to be able to do anything.
NordicPrincess
09-17-2008, 11:10 PM
If heīs so desperate to get new eyes heīll take Madaras.
And he also said before that he wonīt take Itachis eyes, even though he knows heīll go blind from using mangekyou.
blind
09-17-2008, 11:11 PM
If heīs so desperate to get new eyes heīll take Madaras.
And he also said before that he wonīt take Itachis eyes, even though he knows heīll go blind from using mangekyou.
Because Madara will hand over his eyes on a platter, just like that?
Madara has Itachi's body/eyes, it's much more convienent for him to take Itachi's, rather than Madara's.
NordicPrincess
09-17-2008, 11:13 PM
Because Madara will hand over his eyes on a platter, just like that?
Madara has Itachi's body/eyes, it's much more convienent for him to take Itachi's, rather than Madara's.
No, he will have to fight for them if thatīs the case. But I donīt think Sasuke will take anyones eyes. Iīve already said that.
Yeah, but much more evil.
blind
09-17-2008, 11:15 PM
No, he will have to fight for them if thatīs the case. But I donīt think Sasuke will take anyones eyes. Iīve already said that.
Yeah, but much more evil.
Why even risk fighting when he can just take Itachi's eyes, that'll just be a completely unnecessary risk to take. I've also already said that he could very well have changed his mind, since he wants to avenge Sasuke now as compared to earlier, when he was just told the news.
NordicPrincess
09-17-2008, 11:20 PM
Why even risk fighting when he can just take Itachi's eyes, that'll just be a completely unnecessary risk to take. I've also already said that he could very well have changed his mind, since he wants to avenge Sasuke now as compared to earlier, when he was just told the news.
This was a very confusing post for me..
But no, please donīt care about my opinions on Sasuke taking eyes. Since I donīt think heīll take anyones, that opinion doesnīt matter.
Teh Goomba
09-17-2008, 11:22 PM
...and since you're obviously not black you can't begin to understand the sterotypes that black men have to put up with...
You are paranoid. If you would just concentrate on living your life rather than looking for reasons to pull the race card, you might just get somewhere. Are you sure your real name isn't sasuke?
:focus:
2nd, I'm not mixing up anything, How is it that the first sighting of a minority in this series gets beaten by a lame jutsu like Ama. by Suaske after he had been getting his ass handed to him by the 8tj...keep in mind when the 8tj hadn't even evolved yet he was demolishing team Hawk and now when he's in his true form he's gets beat...that shit was so lame on Kishi's behave...Now they're portraying the Raikage as a head strong bully instead of a rational thinking tough shinobi...just to lame for words...
How would you react if your brother was abducted by someone? It's easy to say you would be calm-headed and rational, but another when you are actually there. Raikage knows that his bro's time is limited (since they intend to extract the Bijuu, obviously) so he's going to act very swiftly to get him back.
As far as Amaterasu being a lame juitsu, w/e "dude". It may be lame that he got it without any work, but it is a strong power to unleash on someone. If you had ever read the legend of who Amaterasu is maybe you would understand a little more. Get in line with the other complainers about it, because this isn't anything new.
blind
09-17-2008, 11:23 PM
This was a very confusing post for me..
But no, please donīt care about my opinions on Sasuke taking eyes. Since I donīt think heīll take anyones, that opinion doesnīt matter.
I'm just saying it's un necessary for him to risk fighting Madara to take his eyes, since Itachi's are just sitting there.
This is a discussion thread, you're posting your opinion, I'm posting mine, that's all.
NordicPrincess
09-17-2008, 11:27 PM
I'm just saying it's un necessary for him to risk fighting Madara to take his eyes, since Itachi's are just sitting there.
This is a discussion thread, you're posting your opinion, I'm posting mine, that's all.
I understand what you mean. I see that as well. But I still think Sasuke would find it cruel to take his brothers eyes to destroy the thing his brother was protecting... if he doesnīt go completely evil and desperate that is.
blind
09-17-2008, 11:35 PM
I understand what you mean. I see that as well. But I still think Sasuke would find it cruel to take his brothers eyes to destroy the thing his brother was protecting... if he doesnīt go completely evil and desperate that is.
That how he felt before. Right now, he feels like he'll do anything in order to avenge Itachi, so while he thought Itachi didn't share the same vision as him, him going blind right now would put things into perspective. It's either taking Itachi's eyes, or going Konoha blind. I'd think he would do the former.
NordicPrincess
09-17-2008, 11:39 PM
That how he felt before. Right now, he feels like he'll do anything in order to avenge Itachi, so while he thought Itachi didn't share the same vision as him, him going blind right now would put things into perspective. It's either taking Itachi's eyes, or going Konoha blind. I'd think he would do the former.
Maybe. I donīt think so nor hope so, but yeah maybe.
Murdock
09-18-2008, 04:47 AM
Has Kishimoto forgotten that he was going to focus on Kakashi and Sakura? Itīs only a couple of months left of the year.
I love Sasuke, but this is actually starting to get boring. I want a change. With either Kakashi or Sakura.
problem is that he said half ... i repeat HALF year will be about Sasuke and HALF about Sauka + Kakashi ... it's nearly end of September that is 9th month .. man i don'T know about you but 9 isn't half of 12 in my book ... that shows that Kishi has NO OUTLINE to this story absolutely NO OUTLINE
NordicPrincess
09-18-2008, 05:02 AM
problem is that he said half ... i repeat HALF year will be about Sasuke and HALF about Sauka + Kakashi ... it's nearly end of September that is 9th month .. man i don'T know about you but 9 isn't half of 12 in my book ... that shows that Kishi has NO OUTLINE to this story absolutely NO OUTLINE
Even half the year? Oh dear.
Heīs either forgotten about it or just changed his mind and hopes everyone else have forgotten he said anything, which no one has.
Btw, I donīt know what No Outline mean so I might have given you a weird answer now. I donīt know.
Erotique
09-18-2008, 05:35 AM
Woah, has it been 9 months since his last interview? Hmm *shrugs*
Maybe Sasuke's screen-time/storyline has been indeed 9 month's worth. Perhaps Kishi is trying to end it, or prolong it... who knows. Maybe Kakashi and Sakura have to wait just a bit longer. Even worse, Naruto may have to wait even longer. But guys, just because he announced it, doesn't mean he have no other options but to stick to it. Just like any artists who's working on their masterpiece, at times, things do change (for better, or for the worse). Kishi may or may not have a detailed plot to carry the story, but I'm sure he has the overall picture of how the story will begin, to end, and to start anew. I know how frustrating it is to wait, but we have no other choice but to wait...
I'm fed up with Sasugay O'rama as much as any of you; however, I realized that there's nothing I can do to speed things up for we are all slaves of Kishi's illustration...
~cheers~
NordicPrincess
09-18-2008, 05:54 AM
Maybe Kishimoto has gotten too attached to Sasuke. He doesnīt want to have a chapter without him. I mean, now with the blacks wanting to kill Akatsuki and all, itīs just unessecary and uninteresting. But only because it involves Sasuke he writes it.
Erotique
09-18-2008, 06:08 AM
Maybe Kishimoto has gotten too attached to Sasuke.
Maybe he is... or maybe he's saving the best for last (Naruto)? *shrugs* :D
He doesnīt want to have a chapter without him. I mean, now with the blacks wanting to kill Akatsuki and all, itīs just unessecary and uninteresting. But only because it involves Sasuke he writes it.
Kishi have concentrated on Sasuke's storyline much more than Naruto since post time skip. However, that was because he was mixed up with Sasuke/Oro, Akatsuki, and Sasuke/Itachi (who Itachi WAS a member of Akatsuki), and other web of storylines that were scattered around Sasuke. Kishi had to (not necessarily, but in this case, he did) tie them all together and end few of them. At times, I felt the same way that Kishi seems too obsessive in terms of Sasuke and his screen-time; however, it can also be seen as a way to "enrich" the storyline, even if the main character (Naruto) has to sit on a shelf for a little bit.
Not a pretty way of doing things, but if Kishi is doing this for the sake of storyline (and I'm hoping that he is), then it may actually be worth the wait... :D
sasuke123uchiha
09-18-2008, 11:34 AM
if the new spoiler is true then we're seeing sasuke taking itachi's eyes
rasenproc
09-18-2008, 11:52 AM
if the new spoiler is true then we're seeing sasuke taking itachi's eyes
i agree. either that or my prediction of him getting kakashi's MS
papfles
09-18-2008, 12:01 PM
i agree. either that or my prediction of him getting kakashi's MS
Not much for him to do with one good eye though... especially when the other one is blind
Itachi's eyes it is, and that's the exact reason Madara kept them...
0m3gA
09-18-2008, 12:13 PM
what you mean not much he can do with one good eye .... sasuke could prolbably use kakashis one ms better than he could ... sasuke has the uchiha blood ... kakashi doesnt .. thats why kakashi always had it hidden unless he needed it ...
Seraphiel
09-18-2008, 12:15 PM
Not much for him to do with one good eye though... especially when the other one is blind
Itachi's eyes it is, and that's the exact reason Madara kept them...
Then his brother will be in him.
rasenproc
09-18-2008, 12:29 PM
what you mean not much he can do with one good eye .... sasuke could prolbably use kakashis one ms better than he could ... sasuke has the uchiha blood ... kakashi doesnt .. thats why kakashi always had it hidden unless he needed it ...
that and i dont think he can turn his off like the uchiha. i think madara has somethin else in store for itachi's body. he made sure zetsu got it away really quick. saskue should take his eyes but i really think he doesnt want them
PirUnravel
09-18-2008, 12:29 PM
LMAO @ all the double spoilers being posted!
Anyway - how does it make sense for Sasuke to take Itachi's eyes when Itachi was nearly blind during his fight with Sasuke? We saw his perspective... he could barely see Sasuke... THEN he used Tsukuyomi and Amaterasu big time...
Are we supposed to believe that if Sasuke implants Itachi's old, worn-out eyes... then they will be magically restored back to perfect? :confused:
rasenproc
09-18-2008, 12:31 PM
in the explanation of EMS itachi said madara's bros eyes "found new light" so maybe they will be restored
wind33
09-18-2008, 12:37 PM
LMAO @ all the double spoilers being posted!
Anyway - how does it make sense for Sasuke to take Itachi's eyes when Itachi was nearly blind during his fight with Sasuke? We saw his perspective... he could barely see Sasuke... THEN he used Tsukuyomi and Amaterasu big time...
Are we supposed to believe that if Sasuke implants Itachi's old, worn-out eyes... then they will be magically restored back to perfect? :confused:I was wondering about that as well...Does it matter or not weather the eyes of the person you're taking eyes were already going blind or is it the transfer that makes the eyes EMS?
And I guess Naruto's training is going to be a bit longer...doesn't seem like he's getting the hang of using Natural Energy (NE) without using the oil...I hope he can concentrate harder...
Itachi_the_Feared_One
09-18-2008, 12:55 PM
Not much for him to do with one good eye though... especially when the other one is blind
Itachi's eyes it is, and that's the exact reason Madara kept them...
Actually I always believed , that was part of madara plan for Sasuke, sending him to capture the second powerful beast, expecting him to push his MS nearly to the limit, as a result his eyes started the sealing process, I believe Madara knows the last and real secret of Sharingan, we saw in the past that exchanging MS eyes will grant EMS............what if exchanging EMS eyes would give the user total supremacy over the shinobi world, besides Tobi wants to restore the power of madara as shown in the manga chapter where pain and konan were revealed the first time....
so my prediciton is that Tobi/Madara is after Sasuke EMS....
You can argue that if it was the case, why he did not trick Itachi to take Sasuke eyes..and implement his final goal by taking Itachi's EMS...simply because
1 Itachi is terribly smart and powerful,
2 Itachi's love for sasuke.
wind33
09-18-2008, 01:02 PM
Actually I always believed , that was part of madara plan for Sasuke, sending him to capture the second powerful beast, expecting him to push his MS nearly to the limit, as a result his eyes started the sealing process, I believe Madara knows the last and real secret of Sharingan, we saw in the past that exchanging MS eyes will grant EMS............what if exchanging EMS eyes would give the user total supremacy over the shinobi world, besides Tobi wants to restore the power of madara as shown in the manga chapter where pain and konan were revealed the first time....
so my prediciton is that Tobi/Madara is after Sasuke EMS....
You can argue that if it was the case, why he did not trick Itachi to take Sasuke eyes..and implement his final goal by taking Itachi's EMS...simply because
1 Itachi is terribly smart and powerful,
2 Itachi's love for sasuke.I agree...I also believe that's why Madara really wants Sauske to take Itachi's eyes...I mean why else would he have kept them...My question is 1. Why are Sauske's eyes deming after only a short amount of time and 2. What will the new EMS power be if they are combined and 3. Do you think that Sauske will eventually take Madara's eyes and gain the power of the Ultimate Sharingan?
Seraphiel
09-18-2008, 01:19 PM
I agree...I also believe that's why Madara really wants Sauske to take Itachi's eyes...I mean why else would he have kept them...My question is 1. Why are Sauske's eyes deming after only a short amount of time and 2. What will the new EMS power be if they are combined and 3. Do you think that Sauske will eventually take Madara's eyes and gain the power of the Ultimate Sharingan?
Dragon Ball Z much?
nah there is a 99% chance that EMS is the last form of sharingan.
blind
09-18-2008, 01:20 PM
LMAO @ all the double spoilers being posted!
Anyway - how does it make sense for Sasuke to take Itachi's eyes when Itachi was nearly blind during his fight with Sasuke? We saw his perspective... he could barely see Sasuke... THEN he used Tsukuyomi and Amaterasu big time...
Are we supposed to believe that if Sasuke implants Itachi's old, worn-out eyes... then they will be magically restored back to perfect? :confused:
It'll most likely take both. If you look back to the statue that Itachi showed Sasuke, the statue holds 4 eyes. So taking his brother's eyes, Sasuke could very well put them in his own statue (which probably all Uchiha have inside them), and the product is a brand new EMS. Hence, the condition of the eye implanted isn't important.
rasenproc
09-18-2008, 02:04 PM
i sure hope EMS is the end of the sharingon. madara has complete control of everything happening right now. if saskue is fooling him i guarantee madara is already several steps ahead. as of now saskue cant defeat him or pain so madara holds all the cards. i think saskue may finally pay for his arrogance at eh end of this
Dream Catcher
09-18-2008, 02:29 PM
I agree with rasenproc here. I'm certain Madara is not as stupid as he lets on, he is testing the waters with Sasuke and probably analyzes his actions and sees what happens. Chance are he already knows what Sasuke is planning, although I wonder why he is trying to give Sasu the power of the 8tails.
rasenproc
09-18-2008, 02:31 PM
I agree with rasenproc here. I'm certain Madara is not as stupid as he lets on, he is testing the waters with Sasuke and probably analyzes his actions and sees what happens. Chance are he already knows what Sasuke is planning, although I wonder why he is trying to give Sasu the power of the 8tails.
he never said hed give him the 8 tails. just a tailed beast. atleast i think so. either way i think madara is just usin that as a bargaining chip
Dream Catcher
09-18-2008, 02:43 PM
he never said hed give him the 8 tails. just a tailed beast. atleast i think so. either way i think madara is just usin that as a bargaining chip
and how will he take out any of the others out of the statue? O_o
blind
09-18-2008, 03:04 PM
That brings up another interesting point. How does Madara plan to seal the 8TJ, if Pein is all the way in Konoha. Assuming they have to keep him alive until Pein returns to seal the bijuu, what would happen if he wakes up and starts to attack his captors?
papfles
09-18-2008, 03:09 PM
That brings up another interesting point. How does Madara plan to seal the 8TJ, if Pein is all the way in Konoha. Assuming they have to keep him alive until Pein returns to seal the bijuu, what would happen if he wakes up and starts to attack his captors?
I would invent a sealing jutsu or containing jutsu or even a "sleep until I wake you"-jutsu >_>
Seraphiel
09-18-2008, 03:11 PM
That brings up another interesting point. How does Madara plan to seal the 8TJ, if Pein is all the way in Konoha. Assuming they have to keep him alive until Pein returns to seal the bijuu, what would happen if he wakes up and starts to attack his captors?
Just kick his head until he gets perma brain dmg and falls into a coma?
Even if he wakes up he is in no condition to fight.
Dream Catcher
09-18-2008, 03:13 PM
I would invent a sealing jutsu or containing jutsu or even a "sleep until I wake you"-jutsu >_>
Just kick his head until he gets perma brain dmg and falls into a coma?
Even if he wakes up he is in no condition to fight.
As logical and probable as this sounds, we all know this won't happen. Most likely thing is us getting 8tails awake again + raikage vs. Madara. And Madara owns them in a flash, and then there goes that. HAHAH
Where the hell are Kisame and Zetsu
papfles
09-18-2008, 03:14 PM
Where the hell are Kisame and Zetsu
I heard they were practicing for the Konoha open Poker championships >_>
Dream Catcher
09-18-2008, 03:19 PM
I bet Madara would win that, cuz he can read people's eyes? O_O hahahah
Either way, was the spoiler about the Kage summit true?? If so then we finally get to see Gaara back in the picture and Tsunade leaving Konoha, unless it's held there. This opens up windows for Pain to attack and definitely kill people and a war against Akatsuki.
It always made me chuckle like a little girl to think about 10 ninjas kicking all the other ninjas' asses (millions of them)
rasenproc
09-18-2008, 05:10 PM
i agree AK is has proven to be stupidly powerful and same for konoha cause no one else seems to be able to do crap
blind
09-18-2008, 05:12 PM
i agree AK is has proven to be stupidly powerful and same for konoha cause no one else seems to be able to do crap
And yet, Kakuzu was taken out by a bunch of Konoha nins, as did Sasori, and Hidan. Grant, Sasuke took care of Deidara and Itachi (to a certain extent), Akatsuki is powerful, but Konoha definitely isn't helpless.
rasenproc
09-18-2008, 05:18 PM
And yet, Kakuzu was taken out by a bunch of Konoha nins, as did Sasori, and Hidan. Grant, Sasuke took care of Deidara and Itachi (to a certain extent), Akatsuki is powerful, but Konoha definitely isn't helpless.
thats wat im sayin. i honestly dont know how the wars were much of a contest cause from wat we have seen konoha is far and away more powerful. and as far as 8tb goes.. maybe this will be wat delays pain further. they'll do there little mind teleport thing that we've seen b4 when they seal the beasts.
papfles
09-18-2008, 06:40 PM
And yet, Kakuzu was taken out by a bunch of Konoha nins, as did Sasori, and Hidan. Grant, Sasuke took care of Deidara and Itachi (to a certain extent), Akatsuki is powerful, but Konoha definitely isn't helpless.
But we have to admit that Kakuzu was fodder material, Sasori too, Hidan was just plain stupid >_<
Deidara was blinded with rage and needed to go to alleviate sasuke
and Itachi had gotten plenty of burdens to allow a defeat.
If I'm completely honest: under normal circumstances, none of them would've been defeated (perhaps Hidan)
blind
09-18-2008, 06:42 PM
But we have to admit that Kakuzu was fodder material, Sasori too, Hidan was just plain stupid >_<
Deidara was blinded with rage and needed to go to alleviate sasuke
and Itachi had gotten plenty of burdens to allow a defeat.
If I'm completely honest: under normal circumstances, none of them would've been defeated (perhaps Hidan)
True, but that's the thing, it's not just one person against any Akatsuki member, if they come to Konoha, they'll team up and fight them, for sure. In terms of 1v1 strength, I agree, none of them should lose, with the exception of Hidan.
sasuke123uchiha
09-18-2008, 06:44 PM
i disagree on the hidan part if it wasin't for shikmaru's (godly) brain he mightve died back there (even though hidan's fighting style is crapy)
blind
09-18-2008, 06:48 PM
i disagree on the hidan part if it wasin't for shikmaru's (godly) brain he mightve died back there (even though hidan's fighting style is crapy)
Hidan was going to be cocky regardless of who he's fighting. Plus remember, we aren't just considering them fighting the opponents that they fought in the series, but also any other nins. Imagine if Hidan fought Kakashi, or someone that fight at range, he'd have trouble getting close to get their blood.
papfles
09-18-2008, 06:53 PM
True, but that's the thing, it's not just one person against any Akatsuki member, if they come to Konoha, they'll team up and fight them, for sure. In terms of 1v1 strength, I agree, none of them should lose, with the exception of Hidan.
Well, to be honest, I doubt the akatsuki would be as foolish to go solo when confronted with the majority of Konoha nins...
okay, they may be loners when they are facing small groups because they know their own strength and minimize other people's strenghts, but when confronted with an entire country, I doubt they'll all say "i'll deal with this".
Combining Kakuzu - Hidan - Itachi - Kisame - Sasori - Deidara would scare the shit out of 95% of the nins out there, and of the other 5%, 3% would probably die at first impact.
sasuke123uchiha
09-18-2008, 06:54 PM
ok let's see against naruto:hidan wins.
against tenten : one strike using the scythe she's dead
against kakashi:he uses tai jutsu so he might strike him usin his scythe.so he's dead.
against neji:i think hidan wins this one as well
and alot more like i said with out the (godly brain) they wouldin't stand a chance
blind
09-18-2008, 06:56 PM
ok let's see against naruto:hidan wins.
against tenten : one strike using the scythe she's dead
against kakashi:he uses tai jutsu so he might strike him usin his scythe.so he's dead.
against neji:i think hidan wins this one as well
and alot more like i said with out the (godly brain) they wouldin't stand a chance
Kakashi would lose? He doesn't just use Taijutsu, what about his MS? Also, he could very well just use Inner Earth Decapitation, for an opponent as dumb as Hidan, he could very well fall for that one.
sasuke123uchiha
09-18-2008, 06:58 PM
well that's a point but....................
um..... he could strike him while he's chrging raikeri.nope that one fail as well.ok kakashi might win but still he can defeat other ppl without godlybrains:D
papfles
09-18-2008, 06:59 PM
ok let's see against naruto:hidan wins.
I doubt Hidan is good enough to actually hit the real naruto. Naruto has always used his bunshins to the max, and he won't get hit by a freak with a scythe. He'll do a neji-chuunin fight on him I think.
against neji:i think hidan wins this one as well
Kaiten + his palm techniques won't even let Hidan close.
sasuke123uchiha
09-18-2008, 07:00 PM
I doubt Hidan is good enough to actually hit the real naruto. Naruto has always used his bunshins to the max, and he won't get hit by a freak with a scythe. He'll do a neji-chuunin fight on him I think.
imagine him using the scythe and all thee bunshin poofing away and hitting the real naruto.
papfles
09-18-2008, 07:01 PM
imagine him using the scythe and all thee bunshin poofing away and hitting the real naruto.
And then Hidan will think (like Neji did) that Naruto is that particular naruto, and he'll get Rasengan on his ass...
No, no way he'd get Naruto.
sasuke123uchiha
09-18-2008, 07:01 PM
Kaiten + his palm techniques won't even let Hidan close.
still he might hit him one hit and it's over
blind
09-18-2008, 07:04 PM
still he might hit him one hit and it's over
..If he can't get close, how will his scythe hit him? Plus, Kaiten wouldn't even allow his weapon to pass through, hence there won't be a one hit.
sasuke123uchiha
09-18-2008, 07:05 PM
he doesn't spin for 24 hours once he stops slash it's over
blind
09-18-2008, 07:07 PM
he doesn't spin for 24 hours once he stops slash it's over
So? It's not like Hidan attacks continously either, everytime an attack comes close, Neji could use Kaiten, and nullify Hidan's attack. Hidan isn't exactly the fastest guy in the world, so while he's still decent in terms of speed, Neji could very well either dodge or Kaiten around all his scythe slashes.
Seraphiel
09-18-2008, 07:07 PM
Bah most of the people here faced against hidan could prolly blow him away out of his circle or wouldn't give him the chance to stand in it or make it.
Even if he hits some1 what makes u think he will be able to lick the blood from the scythe he could be blown away or counterattacked.
sasuke123uchiha
09-18-2008, 07:09 PM
because only (godly brains)can figure something like that yeah and maybe kakashi
papfles
09-18-2008, 07:09 PM
still he might hit him one hit and it's over
Palm techniques stop HIdan from moving totally since his tenketsus will be disabled (and he doesn't have naruto's demon chakra to clear them again).
And the Kaiten pushes everything away, so if Neji is any good (and yes, he is), then he'll use Kaiten when it is needed, push the scythe away, immediately stop his kaiten and go into palm-mode.
Neji is probably one of the worst match-ups for Hidan. (Although I don't see him having a chance against Lee either).
Hidan would do amazingly well against Chouji since he's a physical fighter and relies on hits for damage, and his enlarged bodyparts would make it even easier to hit.
blind
09-18-2008, 07:09 PM
because only (godly brains)can figure something like that yeah and maybe kakashi
They won't even need to figure out the ability, as long as they don't get hit, then there won't be anything that requires figuring out.
sasuke123uchiha
09-18-2008, 07:10 PM
They won't even need to figure out the ability, as long as they don't get hit, then there won't be anything that requires figuring out.
i meant about the licking part and the cirlce
blind
09-18-2008, 07:12 PM
i meant about the licking part and the cirlce
Exactly like I said, if his opponent doesn't get hit, he won't have to lick his blood, or make the circle, so there is nothing to figure out, as long as he doesn't get hit.
sasuke123uchiha
09-18-2008, 07:12 PM
what of the opponet does get hit then what?
blind
09-18-2008, 07:14 PM
what of the opponet does get hit then what?
...lol, that's exactly my point that, those who won't get hit, such as Neji, Naruto, Kakashi, and others, will not have to figuring out his technique. Those who will get hit will have to figure out mighty quick, because he could kill them whenever he wants.
sasuke123uchiha
09-18-2008, 07:15 PM
lol can u tell me how is naruto going to avoid the hit?
blind
09-18-2008, 07:16 PM
can u tell me how is naruto going to avoid the hit?
Clones until Hidan gets tired, real one hides and BAM, FRS, Hidan is finished.
sasuke123uchiha
09-18-2008, 07:17 PM
damn you narutotard.
aha how will he kill him?if he can't kill him he'll stay there untill he get's his energy back and he'll atack once again.
or nvm i didn't read the whole post:biggrin1:
boszz
09-18-2008, 07:18 PM
lol can u tell me how is naruto going to avoid the hit?
JEZ... MAN they was talling it to you all over.. ;/;/ (i'd say you should stop spamming )
HE will just USE KB instead of his real body one oodama rasengan and hidan loses;/
or even if he get injured he can go ( theoretically) tailed mode when he'll be healed and it will be easily to get hidan off his circle
blind
09-18-2008, 07:19 PM
damn you narutotard.
aha how will he kill him?if he can't kill him he'll stay there untill he get's his energy back and he'll atack once again.
Once Hidan is tired out, where Naruto would just come out and stuff a FRS down his throat. Naruto will easily outlast Hidan, no contest.
sasuke123uchiha
09-18-2008, 07:21 PM
JEZ... MAN they was talling it to you all over.. ;/;/ (i'd say you should stop spamming )
HE will just USE KB instead of his real body one oodama rasengan and hidan loses;/
or even if he get injured he can go ( theoretically) tailed mode when he'll be healed and it will be easily to get hidan off his circle
i don't get how does hidan die HE'S IMORTAL. i bet he survives kyubbis full power energy mouth blast(or what ever it's called)
Once Hidan is tired out, where Naruto would just come out and stuff a FRS down his throat. Naruto will easily outlast Hidan, no contest.
again the dude is immortal the frs won't kill him
Seraphiel
09-18-2008, 07:24 PM
i don't get how does hidan die HE'S IMORTAL. i bet he survives kyubbis full power energy mouth blast(or what ever it's called)
again the dude is immortal the frs won't kill him
No but he wont be able to use chakra and his jutsu.
papfles
09-18-2008, 07:25 PM
i don't get how does hidan die HE'S IMORTAL. i bet he survives kyubbis full power energy mouth blast(or what ever it's called)
it's like the knight in monty python. He doesn't have to die. Incapacitate him and you've won. I doubt Hidan will be able to move if he eats an FRS
sasuke123uchiha
09-18-2008, 07:25 PM
from the way it looks like cuting of his head is nothing he did put it back in some how
boszz
09-18-2008, 07:26 PM
i don't get how does hidan die HE'S IMORTAL. i bet he survives kyubbis full power energy mouth blast(or what ever it's called)
again the dude is immortal the frs won't kill him
jezz man you should stop making fool of yourself..;/ or read manga again
. first of all even thought he is immortal his body isnt indestructible. so such powerful attack like frs or oodama can easily destroy his body so he's good as dead .;/
and this is spoiler discussion tread not naruto/hiddan tread ;/
papfles
09-18-2008, 07:26 PM
from the way it looks like cuting of his head is nothing he can did it back in some how
Wrong, he only "survived" that because of Kakuzu's hidden technique with the threads
blind
09-18-2008, 07:27 PM
again the dude is immortal the frs won't kill him
Ok, if you want to get technical, he isn't dead right now, Shikamaru didn't actually kill him. The point is that he'll be decapitated enough such that he won't be able to do anything, his body would be destroyed, I'd like to see Kakuzu sew him back together then.
sasuke123uchiha
09-18-2008, 07:32 PM
question
does kb bleed?^_^ (i guess not)
blind
09-18-2008, 07:33 PM
Yes, see Sandaime fight, Naruto fight vs. Neji, etc.
sasuke123uchiha
09-18-2008, 07:33 PM
then the fight is in hidan's favor he'll get naruto's blood from the kb bam it's over
papfles
09-18-2008, 07:39 PM
then the fight is in hidan's favor he'll get naruto's blood from the kb bam it's over
Nah, they don't bleed.
Sarutobi's KB were a tad different
And naruto's kb with neji were probably KB that were similar to the real naruto therefore carrying dirt and blood.
If naruto's bunshins had blood, they would splat when hit or kunai / knives would have blood on them when they hit him. And they don't.
Face it, naruto is way in the advantage over hidan ;)
blind
09-18-2008, 07:57 PM
then the fight is in hidan's favor he'll get naruto's blood from the kb bam it's over
Your question was if KB's bled, Naruto's KB in particular (unless internal chakra system is damaged) do not bleed, so no, it's not in Hidan's favor.
Herumor
09-18-2008, 10:39 PM
Since we are talking so much about Hidan, I predict he will come back and kill of Shikimaru :lol:
The sealing of the 8tb could be delaying Pain. If so god damnit >.<
Naru-Ichi
09-18-2008, 10:50 PM
Just so everyone knows, Hidan is dead
177.1 cm 58.8 kg
Age: 22
Hidan hails from Yugakure (the Village Hidden Amongst Hot Springs), the village purported to have forgotten war.
Even as the Great Wars disappeared from the world and the Hidden Villages were scaled back as military powers, those with an abundance of nature and tourist resources gained positive position in the new times. Hidan, who had lived as a shinobi constantly starved for strife, grew frustrated and discontent with this new pacifism, eventually directing his feelings at the village itself.
It was inevitable that the newly found religion of Jashin would set its eyes on him.
Thou shalt massacre thy neighbor.
The religions teachings would prove be abundant with elements that affirmed Hidan's own desires.
Ah okay, I did find the thing about Hidan's immortality. The thing earlier about him being a successful human experiment using the Jashin religion's forbidden jutsu. If he doesn't continue killing people he loses his immortality
Corendir
09-19-2008, 01:40 AM
^ Where did that come from?
[Edit] Just read the chapter. Spoilers ahead.
HOLY CRAP HYUGA!!! Seems like there's a history of defection with the Hyuga's and we'll hear about it. That line alone made me more excited than anything in Naruto in a long time, finally getting to see some backstory from other clans.
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