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Sooooo in a few words, Sasuke is even more emo now, Obama is the Raikage and Naruto still has frog eyes (I think)

[raugaj08_]

I thinking sasuke is bsing in front of madara... like hes going to destroy all of konoha

hope we see raikage in action... raikage vs kisame... wouldnt that be a sight to see :D

btw wouldnt naruto be the main char in the book instead of the 4th...

[Hidden Ninja]

well at least the raikage isnt going to attack konoha just bc of an uchiha symbol.

also i am glad about this. for once, sasuke states his feelings clearly and even tho it is so wrong, now he has truly stepped over to the side of evil.

now sasuke will truly become the villain and i think this is where naruto is going to differ from jman. i think he will eventually take sasuke's life ending the endless cycle of bloodshed like what we saw in jman's first book. tho i really wanted to know what the main character's name was.

edit: naruto didn't have frog eyes. frog eyes are waaaaay thicker. i think they were just normal with tears.

[018798]

well at least the raikage isnt going to attack konoha just bc of an uchiha symbol.

also i am glad about this. for once, sasuke states his feelings clearly and even tho it is so wrong, now he has truly stepped over to the side of evil.

now sasuke will truly become the villain and i think this is where naruto is going to differ from jman. i think he will eventually take sasuke's life ending the endless cycle of bloodshed like what we saw in jman's first book. tho i really wanted to know what the main character's name was.

edit: naruto didn't have frog eyes. frog eyes are waaaaay thicker. i think they were just normal with tears.\

i think sasuke was bullshitting, but he played his evil part well though. and yea they werent frog eyes just normal wit tears.

[W4NN1]

cant wait to see if sasuke put on a act to stab madara's back or if he was serious

[Hidden Ninja]

i think he is serious especially since jman said oro used to be good until his parents died and he possibly blamed konoha for it.

sasuke like oro and naruto like jman.

plus sasuke surrounds himself with just bad people. from oro to now madara.

[winchester20]

I don't know, chapter was a little blah for me this week. I was hoping for more about Naruto and Jiraiya and Naruto's heritage. Seeing Sasuke go completely "Anakin" when we've pretty much already seen that was a bit repetitive for me, though it was the first time he said he was gonna kill the entire village, which makes no sense to me. I mean, what was the point of the that panel last week where it flashed Kakashi, Naruto, and Sakura when he was fighting the Hachibi? I thought that was supposed to be a touchstone for Sasuke in that he was realizing his bonds were important, even those he had thought he had severed. Now he's nothing but hate and wanting to kill everyone and destroy everything? Jeez. Where's my violin? Talk about a freakin broken record already. And if he's fakin it, then we get the frickin idea either way. Let's move on.

I'm not so much interested in the contents of Jiraiya's first book as I am Naruto's reaction and questions about it. I mean, while we don't have the actual story, we know the general content and character of the main character. We know that the 4th wanted his son to be like that main character and that Jiraiya said Naruto had really grown into said character. Now let's get into the meat of how this affects Naruto's ideas/relationship towards/about Jiraiya and how he comes to find out his heritage through it.

[018798]

hey what do you think madaras intentions are concerning sasuke he seems to have big plans for him, what do u think they are. and i agree wit winchester its way too repetitive concerning sasuke

[dharq]

The main character was Naruto. We already know that from the scene with Minato and Jiraiya when J got asked to be the godfather. http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/382/09/

Now I really wanna see what Naruto's gonna do once he learns about his family and how he got his name. I have a feeling Naruto's gonna get a helluva lot more powerful really soon. Pain's going to show just how far he's come 'cause Naruto's gonna wipe the floor with him.

[AS The Leader]

First of all DC Naruto hasn't got the frog eyes :biggrin1:
And lolll Obama the raikage!!

Then this story of Sasuke's hatred because Konoha sacrificed his brother really reminds me of the Hyuuga story where Neji's father had to be sacrificed in order to maintain the peace.
But the hell, Itachi agreed to do that, it's his choice, exactly like Neji's father, so Sasuke has to respect it, I don't know if it will end the same way as for the Hyuuga story, and Sasuke is going to find a note somewhere saying that Itachi was happy of his sacrifice or something like that...but well I just thought it was the same thing but bigger.
But man how stubborn and unwise that Sasuke is it's hard to beat him in that!
But hey the way Sasuke talked about killing "everyone they cared about" reminded me of Pein, I guess the "..." of Madara meant that he realized it too.
And he will introduce him, "Hey here's someone you might go well along Sasuke!"
I'm disapointed that we didn't learn anything concerning that book, the first few pages were really out of the focus...

That raikage seems cool, but also a hot headed guy, and we all know how they finish...

[wind33]

i think he is serious especially since jman said oro used to be good until his parents died and he possibly blamed konoha for it.

sasuke like oro and naruto like jman.

plus sasuke surrounds himself with just bad people. from oro to now madara.I'd be willing to bet that Sauske was just playing up to Madara...And that's going to be the difference between Jariaya and Naruto, where Jariaya failed at saving Orochimaru Naruto will succeed at saving Sauske...That's just another way of surpassing his sensei...I'm not saying that Sauske's not upset for Itachi's sacrafice but I think that eventually he will understand that what Itachi did was for peace...Kishi is making sure that Suaske doesn't do anything that would make it impossible for Sauske to return to Kanoha...Just think about the way Suaske was fighting all of his opponents...He's never actually really killed any of them..They either committed suicide or he put them into another dimension...Even when he was training with Oro he fought all those soilders and didn't kill any of them...Sauske still has a moral compass and that's why he's never going to do what he's telling Madara...He won't kill innocent people...

[Arty]

Well...

Atleast now we know whom will kill Tsunade :)

[018798]

I'd be willing to bet that Sauske was just playing up to Madara...And that's going to be the difference between Jariaya and Naruto, where Jariaya failed at saving Orochimaru Naruto will succeed at saving Sauske...That's just another way of surpassing his sensei...I'm not saying that Sauske's not upset for Itachi's sacrafice but I think that eventually he will understand that what Itachi did was for peace...Kishi is making sure that Suaske doesn't do anything that would make it impossible for Sauske to return to Kanoha...Just think about the way Suaske was fighting all of his opponents...He's never actually really killed any of them..They either committed suicide or he put them into another dimension...Even when he was training with Oro he fought all those soilders and didn't kill any of them...Sauske still has a moral compass and that's why he's never going to do what he's telling Madara...He won't kill innocent people...

he attacked and gave up the 8 tailed beast who shall be killed, so he essentially killed a innocent, or condemned him either way. so that shows that he doesnt care about ppl being innocent anymore

[Lavitz]

he attacked and gave up the 8 tailed beast who shall be killed, so he essentially killed a innocent, or condemned him either way. so that shows that he doesnt care about ppl being innocent anymore

Even if he betrays Madara he cant go back to konoha because if akatsuki take out the bijuu from Kilerbee then the Raikage would start a war against Konoha since Sasuke was the one who captured his brother.
About this chapter:Maybe Sasuke will die this year I think but who knows...I dont think he will survive after saying this...Maybe he will kill someone close to Naruto and then Naruto kills him.

[sasuke123uchiha]

i guess we will see sasuke attacking konoha hope fully along with pain.

but i think when he attacks naruto might bring him back this time.

[PirUnravel]

I can only hope Kishi could write Sasuke dying. I would love to see him get killed by Pain, moments before he finally realizes that his anger and constant desire for revenge was all in vain. I just really wanna see Pain and Sasuke meet... they are alike in many ways so I think it would be interesting.

Weird that Jiraiya never spoke to Sasuke (I think) once when he was still in Konoha... he was pretty much always around just for Naruto exclusively.

Hmmm... I predict the next chapter will show the ninja following the 8TJ... and HOPEFULLY Pain finally arriving in Konoha. He must have stopped at Disney World on the way there?

[rasenproc]

I can only hope Kishi could write Sasuke dying. I would love to see him get killed by Pain, moments before he finally realizes that his anger and constant desire for revenge was all in vain. I just really wanna see Pain and Sasuke meet... they are alike in many ways so I think it would be interesting.

Weird that Jiraiya never spoke to Sasuke (I think) once when he was still in Konoha... he was pretty much always around just for Naruto exclusively.

Hmmm... I predict the next chapter will show the ninja following the 8TJ... and HOPEFULLY Pain finally arriving in Konoha. He must have stopped at Disney World on the way there?

i think jaraiya trusted kakashi to take care of saskue since they hav similar backrounds.

As far as the chapter, i feel like ive seen it before, oh ya thats right.... revenge is all saskue has talked about since day one. anywho, i think we are just about ready to shift the focus to kakashi and sakura. naruto can train and saskue got 8tb. so now the only other current storyline is pain... bye bye tsunade. hello hokage kakashi

[SpikeUchiha]

it kinda like a basic guide to the 4ths jutst...smoke as tags.. kb.. just to poof for the behind the back jutsu...lol naruto should do that more.

[winchester20]

The main character was Naruto. We already know that from the scene with Minato and Jiraiya when J got asked to be the godfather.

I don't see how Naruto could be the main character, he wasn't even born yet. Minato says he wants his son to grow into the kind of ninja that is in the book, and on the page before the one you link he says that the book reads like an autobiography of Jiraiya. I mean, that pretty much tells me it's gotta be J-man. Doesn't matter what the illustrations in the book look like. Jiraiya wouldn't have drawn himself in there. Least I wouldn't expect that.

[Hellspawn0707]

I have a feeling that 8 tails won't die only because Pein and Konan are going to go to Kohona it's not like they will have the time to extract the beast. What is Kisame up to I think he is gonna betray Akastuki for Itachi's sake.

[blind]

I don't see how Naruto could be the main character, he wasn't even born yet. Minato says he wants his son to grow into the kind of ninja that is in the book, and on the page before the one you link he says that the book reads like an autobiography of Jiraiya. I mean, that pretty much tells me it's gotta be J-man. Doesn't matter what the illustrations in the book look like. Jiraiya wouldn't have drawn himself in there. Least I wouldn't expect that.

I think someone has said this in the other thread, but it could just be Naruto putting his face as the main character, since the book probably isn't illustrated.

[winchester20]

Oops. There's another thread for this chapter?

[FlipSide]

Anyone ever thought about sasuke thinking about Nauto, Sakura and Kakashi? Like he would kill them lol.

[blind]

Oops. There's another thread for this chapter?

Well, the 416 discussion thread, this is for predictions for the next chapter.

Anyone ever thought about sasuke thinking about Nauto, Sakura and Kakashi? Like he would kill them lol.

He's already said they were all to blame for his pain, I don't see why he would stop.

[rasenproc]

I don't see how Naruto could be the main character, he wasn't even born yet. Minato says he wants his son to grow into the kind of ninja that is in the book, and on the page before the one you link he says that the book reads like an autobiography of Jiraiya. I mean, that pretty much tells me it's gotta be J-man. Doesn't matter what the illustrations in the book look like. Jiraiya wouldn't have drawn himself in there. Least I wouldn't expect that.

the characters name is naruto. jaraiya got the idea while he was eating ramen. it was after reading it that minato gave naruto his name. thats why jaraiya says "i named him." and there are no illustrations thats just naruto's imagination

http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/382/09/
http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/382/10/

[winchester20]

the characters name is naruto. it was after reading it that minato gave naruto his name. thats why jaraiya says "i named him." and there are no illustrations thats just naruto's imagination

Yes the character's name is Naruto, but it is not the Naruto we all know and love. Minato and Kushina simply named their son after the main character because they liked the name and the kind of person the main character was. I mean, Jiraiya had no idea they were gonna do that when he was writing the book. He was shocked when they told him they wanted to name their son Naruto. He has grown up into a person similar to the main character, but the main character of the book is not based on him. How could it be? He wasn't born yet!?

EDIT: Are we arguing in circles here? I thought someone was saying that the main character in the book is the Naruto Uzumaki we have been reading about for so long. I know the main character's name is Naruto. I'm just saying that he ain't based off of everyone's favorite ninja in orange.

[,,,^.^,,,]

the fourth??? REAAALLY?? The three people who voted that should look up........ theyre just retarded. im sorry. That's the book naruto was named after.

also i think sasuke is pulling an itachi and faking. Even if he's not i think calling him emo is a bit cliche. emo are american kids living in suburbs who paint their nails black and talk about death and despair. sasuke is a fucked up kid who's lost everything and depends on rage and revenge to have a reason to live. besides don't be naive and think kishi isn't pulling a fast one. sasuke is PROBABLY hiding something from madara.

[CheerUp]

Its clear Sasuke's lying to Madara. He's pretenting to have kind of the same grudge on Konoha like Madara has. That's why he mentioned the Senju people :).

Like I always stated, he will help Madara until the 3 eleders are out.

[rasenproc]

i wonder wat madara wouldve done had saskue said he would protect konoha

[winchester20]

I do think Sasuke is pulling a fast one on Madara as well, but what exactly I'm not sure. Kishi is pretty good at getting ya to think down one path and then going down another avenue. But I do hope the truth of Sasuke is revealed soon, as I am just about fed up with the current Sasuke. I do think we are eventually gonna see a Sasuke vs Madara showdown though, and that's gonna be one helluva battle.

[wind33]

he attacked and gave up the 8 tailed beast who shall be killed, so he essentially killed a innocent, or condemned him either way. so that shows that he doesnt care about ppl being innocent anymoreThe 8tj isn't dead yet...maybe the Riakage will save his little brother and then it won't matter...And how can Akatsuki still perform the chakra transfer when they don't have enough people to do it...it took all of them to take the other 7 Bijuus...And even if they try to use team Hawk I don't believe they'll be strong enough to use that technique...They're not even close to being Akatsuki level shinobi...

And for arguement sake let's say that they are strong enough, with the numbers that Akatsuki have now it'll take them a long time to do the jutsu...It took them 3days when they had all of their member minus Oro...so i'll take them even longer to do it with what they have left...enough time for the Riakage to come and get his brother...

[barcode]

the character from the story is called Naruto and it's supposed to represent Jiraya.

Sasuke is just putting up a front in front of Madara, and Madara knows it. And Sasuke knows that Madara knows it. And Madara knows that Sasuke knows that he knows it and so on. Madara and Sasuke both want Senju and the higher ups dead.

LOL Suigtsu is a blob. I wonder how they're going to heal that would. They'll probably treat Karin first.

BTW

this forum has a lot of intelligent naruto manga readers as well as not so intelligent.. but the poll is seriously filled with stupid people

[papfles]

the character from the story is called Naruto and it's supposed to represent Jiraya.


I wouldn't be too sure about the jiraiya part. He had known the prophecy for quite some time by then, and he would have no reason to portray the char as himself, since he was never told that HE would become the prophecy.

He might have modeled the story on his own experiences, I'll give you that.

And for arguement sake let's say that they are strong enough, with the numbers that Akatsuki have now it'll take them a long time to do the jutsu...It took them 3days when they had all of their member minus Oro...so i'll take them even longer to do it with what they have left...enough time for the Riakage to come and get his brother...

might be exactly what Kishi needs to grant Naruto some more time before an invasion (and to grant the raikage some time to get his troops together)

[Wannabe]

Actually, we don’t know who the character was. Kishimoto stopped the dialogue before we got a name. I can’t help but think that now we’re either going to have the shock of our lives when we find out that the character wasn’t the Naruto we’re all assuming him to be or an anti-climatic no, duh moment when it gets brought up again.

I think it’s fairly obvious that he’s not supposed to be Minato, though. He’s a fictional character within the fictional world of Naruto. It is possible that, since Jiraiya is the author, Minato inspired some of the design and traits in the character which caused a similarity to Naruto, but I doubt that the character was supposed to represent any certain person within the manga (except perhaps Jiraiya himself).

[CheerUp]

In any case Raikage will deal with Akatsuki. And with at least 2 countries lining up against Akatsuki (just count Madara, Kisame and Pain, Sasuke will not fight to protect them, and Zetsu does not seem to be the fighter type), it seems that those 3 are extremely powerful. Kishi would not make them fight so many foes otherwise...

Makes me wonder ... is Kishi really trying to make us believe that ... let's say 5 people can put up a hell of a fight against 2-3 villages (+ Sand)?


PS: It was easy for Orochimaru to take control over 2 villages, Pain already has 1 ..... wouldn't it have been a lot easier for the Akatsuki to simply become Hokage's of all but Konoha villages, and cause an all out war between all of them?

[Lavitz]

When Sasuke said he will destroy konoha it looked like Madara was angry at Sasuke for not chosing Itachi's path so maybe he wants Sasuke as his enemy?We still dont know what is Madara's plan with Sasuke. I have a feeling that Sasuke will die this year for sure so Naruto will be able to give up on him.

[papfles]

In any case Raikage will deal with Akatsuki. And with at least 2 countries lining up against Akatsuki (just count Madara, Kisame and Pain, Sasuke will not fight to protect them, and Zetsu does not seem to be the fighter type), it seems that those 3 are extremely powerful. Kishi would not make them fight so many foes otherwise...

Makes me wonder ... is Kishi really trying to make us believe that ... let's say 5 people can put up a hell of a fight against 2-3 villages (+ Sand)?

Kazekage - Raikage - Hokage (+ their countries)

Against Madara - pain - konan - Zetsu - Kisame - Sasuke - Yuugo - Suigetsu - Karin - the country of water - country of rain

Seems like a decent match-up

[-Erios-]

ahh just read the chapter and well its was ok
we see
sasuke being more emo than he could possibly by
Naruto crying
raikage pissed
and Madara??? why is he so worried about sasuke's "future"

[,,,^.^,,,]

he attacked and gave up the 8 tailed beast who shall be killed, so he essentially killed a innocent, or condemned him either way. so that shows that he doesnt care about ppl being innocent anymore

i dont agree. the 8 tails is hardly an innocent. when you're a combatant, you're not an innocent. you take on the responsibilities and burdens that come with it, one of which is having sasuke amaterasu your ass till you're nice n crispy... innocents would be civilians and konohamaru.

MORE NARUTO NEXT CHAP!!!!!

[ANBUMike]

So the raikage is going to whoop some keister.

I don't think we'll see the Raikage in action in the next issue, but we may get to see him confront akatsuki by the end of the chapter.

Hopefully it's all Naruto next chapter.:yo:

[wind33]

Actually, we don’t know who the character was. Kishimoto stopped the dialogue before we got a name. I can’t help but think that now we’re either going to have the shock of our lives when we find out that the character wasn’t the Naruto we’re all assuming him to be or an anti-climatic no, duh moment when it gets brought up again.

I think it’s fairly obvious that he’s not supposed to be Minato, though. He’s a fictional character within the fictional world of Naruto. It is possible that, since Jiraiya is the author, Minato inspired some of the design and traits in the character which caused a similarity to Naruto, but I doubt that the character was supposed to represent any certain person within the manga (except perhaps Jiraiya himself).I think that we all may be reading to much into the book..what if it's just a book about a man that doesn't give up despite the odds against him...The character may or may not be loosely based on someone else...maybe not even Jariaya...I think I remember when Jariaya was dying he figured out what Kind of decision he had to make and it was "to not give up" so i doubt that he was talking about himself in the book (since the character in the book doesn't give up) because he didn't realize that he wasn't supposed to give up until he's was about to die...So i don't believe that the story was about him...

[-Erios-]

lol well anyway i feel kinda bad for Mr. 8 tails to see him beat to a pulp ..idk
hopefully the raikage will make in time to save him

[ANBUMike]

We might see Madara in action if the Raikage finds the akatsuki hiding place.

[CheerUp]

Kazekage - Raikage - Hokage (+ their countries)

Against Madara - pain - konan - Zetsu - Kisame - Sasuke - Yuugo - Suigetsu - Karin - the country of water - country of rain

Seems like a decent match-up


Looks like one, but it will not be, in my opinion.

Konan and Hawk (without Sasuke) do not really feel like S-class to me. Zetsu seems to be a very good assasin. Not efficient on large scale fights.

So keep the three mentioned by me, plus 2 villages (and throw Sasuke in ... although I don't see him hurting anyone in Konoha, except if his life is in danger....). Against 3 Kage's, 3 countries. Not to mention that Konoha also has 3-4 extremely strong jounins.


PS: How do you think Neji will do against Pain? :D

[papfles]

Looks like one, but it will not be, in my opinion.

Konan and Hawk (without Sasuke) do not really feel like S-class to me. Zetsu seems to be a very good assasin. Not efficient on large scale fights.

So keep the three mentioned by me, plus 2 villages (and throw Sasuke in ... although I don't see him hurting anyone in Konoha, except if his life is in danger....). Against 3 Kage's, 3 countries. Not to mention that Konoha also has 3-4 extremely strong jounins.

Well, if it turns out like that, it'll all depend on how kishi wants the power struggle to be.

I can imagine him going for "country is stronger than we had ever imagined" just to get Konoha in a pickle.

And I can also see Sasuke recruit the Oro-experiments (I wouldn't be surprised if Yuugo could call on them because they "have my DNA in them")

[-Erios-]

We might see Madara in action if the Raikage finds the akatsuki hiding place.

if he does he better make it in time unlike Naruto on the rescuing Gaara arc

[Azzul]

With Sasuke completing his mission, Naruto still training on Toad Mountain, that leaves us with....
...FINALLY, Pain has arrived to Konoha. There is no point in calling off Pain to seal the 8TJ after being ordered to get Naruto and it's taken so long for him to make a move, (yes I know he needed to replace his 6th body).

So in this next little mini arc I see war right at Konoha doors and inside it's village. With Pain there tearing up the place and the rest of Aksutki + Hawk (falcon) coming it's going to be a dark time for Konoha.

Now I don't know if Cloud will blame Konoha for the Uchiha or just Aksutki. The way it was phrased made it seem as if Cloud will hold Konoha responsible for Sasuke's actions.

[CheerUp]

Well, if it turns out like that, it'll all depend on how kishi wants the power struggle to be.

I can imagine him going for "country is stronger than we had ever imagined" just to get Konoha in a pickle.

And I can also see Sasuke recruit the Oro-experiments (I wouldn't be surprised if Yuugo could call on them because they "have my DNA in them")

Can't wait :D.

Still don't see Sasuke taking on his village. He indeed has no more bonds to them, but has nice memories there. He won't attack the village. His target is cristal clear: elders.

[Wannabe]

I think that we all may be reading to much into the book..what if it's just a book about a man that doesn't give up despite the odds against him...The character may or may not be loosely based on someone else...maybe not even Jariaya...I think I remember when Jariaya was dying he figured out what Kind of decision he had to make and it was "to not give up" so i doubt that he was talking about himself in the book (since the character in the book doesn't give up) because he didn't realize that he wasn't supposed to give up until he's was about to die...So i don't believe that the story was about him...

Well, if this is indeed the same book that Minato and Kushina got Naruto’s name from, it was said that it resembled an autobiography of Jiraiya and that Jiraiya had written it to portray what he wanted his life to be like (which lines up with Fukasaku saying that Jiraiya “poured his heart n’ soul into it”). It just so happens that Naruto turned out to be a lot like that character, and not Jiraiya himself.

I think that Jiraiya didn’t realize that he wasn’t supposed to give up until right before he died because he was blinded by the ideal of doing something extremely great and heroic before his life ended (like Minato and Sarutobi did with protecting the village), hence why he said that, when the time came, he decided to stop Akatsuki and save the world from ruin... It has nothing to do with whether he inserted himself as a stubborn character into his writing or not.

[Stucakes]

A chapter before this, I was very convinced that Sasuke was putting on a act.
After reading this chapter I'm not so sure. I think alot of us just want it to be an act. : )
What was with his eyes at the end? Why is his Ms on?
Maybe he is useing it to read Madaras emotions like he did to that other random ninja.

[,,,^.^,,,]

enough already.

http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/382/08/
http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/382/09/
http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/382/10/

it's not minato, it's not some other mystery book.

What im more curious about at this point is what naruto will do with this new found knowledge of where he was named from and that he is the child of prophecy. probably mature some more. it's gonna be great.

also i don't see raikage accomplishing much against akatsuki. he's probably just being used as a plot point to trigger the next great ninja war or to let us see madara's fighting power.

[0m3gA]

my first time posting in the naruto section.....

i dont think he'll endup doing anything to the village no matter but to elders yes...

naruto will endup doing somehting to change him .. since naruto is known for changing
peoples feelings towards something...and i dont think sasuke could/would ever kill
him .. those he keeps precious to him ... he keeps it deep down inside ...
on the verge of death why would he have flashbacks of naruto/sakura etc...

[-Erios-]

A chapter before this, I was very convinced that Sasuke was putting on a act.
After reading this chapter I'm not so sure. I think alot of us just want it to be an act. : )
What was with his eyes at the end? Why is his Ms on?
Maybe he is useing it to read Madaras emotions like he did to that other random ninja.

prbably but if I remeber right that other ninja collapsed at the end didnt he??:confused:

[PirUnravel]

I don't think the Raikage will be simple fodder. The 8TJ was the only jinchuriiki besides Gaara and Naruto that has been really focused on... we learned that he has a formidable brother... he has great control over his bijuu... and he has a personality... etc.

We haven't seen the last of him. I think he may eventually meet Naruto.

p.s. - I still believe Madara has a direct connection to Danzou.

[Wannabe]

enough already.

http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/382/08/
http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/382/09/
http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/382/10/

it's not minato, it's not some other mystery book.

What im more curious about at this point is what naruto will do with this new found knowledge of where he was named from and that he is the child of prophecy. probably mature some more. it's gonna be great.

also i don't see raikage accomplishing much against akatsuki. he's probably just being used as a plot point to trigger the next great ninja war or to let us see madara's fighting power.

Yes, mole. It is some mystery book. </sarcasm>

I agree with you that it is probably that same book, but those pages don’t prove anything...for all we know Kishimoto could pull a fast one on us and have the character’s name be Bob John Helsinki. It wasn’t exactly revealed in the excerpt.

Will Naruto even ask why he has the same name as a character in Jiraiya’s book? :| I would if I were him, but if I were Naruto I would have asked a lot of other questions that Naruto hasn’t even touched with a stick yet.

[Hidden Ninja]

p.s. - I still believe Madara has a direct connection to Danzou.

i agree so much. danzou is a dark character who is a war monger. he is imo like madara, would see konoha fall just so it would benefit himself.


Yes, mole. It is some mystery book. </sarcasm>

I agree with you that it is probably that same book, but those pages don’t prove anything...for all we know Kishimoto could pull a fast one on us and have the character’s name be Bob John Helsinki. It wasn’t exactly revealed in the excerpt.

Will Naruto even ask why he has the same name as a character in Jiraiya’s book? :| I would if I were him, but if I were Naruto I would have asked a lot of other questions that Naruto hasn’t even touched with a stick yet.

naruto just finished reading the book. he hasnt even gotten up from lying down to ask any questions. and i doubt kishi would do something so dumb. with kishi everything is about connections. he wouldnt just say its a completely different book that has no revelance or connection to naruto.

[0m3gA]

danzou seems to be pretty well informed about everything...its pretty obvious he has connections with everything ... and spies everywhere..i wouldnt be surprised if he was working with madara ...

i just hope naruto's new "power" will be able to match sasuke's MS

[-Erios-]

....well Danzou working with madara seems possible but what is danzou getting out of madara or vice-versa what is Madara getting from Danzou .....i doubt its only information there is gotta be something bigger...

[Wannabe]

naruto just finished reading the book. he hasnt even gotten up from lying down to ask any questions. and i doubt kishi would do something so dumb. with kishi everything is about connections. he wouldnt just say its a completely different book that has no revelance or connection to naruto.

This is the prediction’s thread, right? I’m not condemning Naruto for not asking right there right now, I’m asking if Naruto will actually ask why his name is the same as a character in Jiraiya’s book once he gets up. Or if he’ll say anything else about it, even...

There was still no point in not revealing the character’s name already (other than to drive the readers insane). This must be another [lame] tactic to keep people reading...not as if we haven’t been waiting for this moment for over half a year already. :tsk:

[0m3gA]

....well Danzou working with madara seems possible but what is danzou getting out of madara or vice-versa what is Madara getting from Danzou .....i doubt its only information there is gotta be something bigger...

to conquer the the shinobi land ... for madara or danzou to succesfully do
this they need each other ... danzou is inside konoha which is pretty much the main village

and madara in akatsuki as the main villain group ... its the perfect place for
two guys to be in whos trying to take over everything!

[,,,^.^,,,]

Yes, mole. It is some mystery book. </sarcasm>

I agree with you that it is probably that same book, but those pages don’t prove anything...for all we know Kishimoto could pull a fast one on us and have the character’s name be Bob John Helsinki. It wasn’t exactly revealed in the excerpt.

Will Naruto even ask why he has the same name as a character in Jiraiya’s book? :| I would if I were him, but if I were Naruto I would have asked a lot of other questions that Naruto hasn’t even touched with a stick yet.

LOOOL what wit (no sarcasm) ah dude you're a bit of a foot.... leg end... legend. Anyway, I think the reason they cut from him introducing himself to naruto crying, which was too cute n funny, is that it is his name. which is why there is no mystery for me. The other thing is he's overcome with emotions. the questions will come.

[-Erios-]

well yeah it was pretty obvious why they didnt mention his name Thats why Naruto started to cry....

[Itachi_the_Feared_One]

....well Danzou working with madara seems possible but what is danzou getting out of madara or vice-versa what is Madara getting from Danzou .....i doubt its only information there is gotta be something bigger...

For 1, Danzou opposed the third for the Hokage position or some other konoha policies, we know that sarutobi...is senju follower, I am not sure if he actually decends from senju clan....so there might be common interest between danzou and Madara, but nothing suggests that Madrara is conspiring with Danzou.

[-Erios-]

For 1, Danzou opposed the third for the Hokage position or some other konoha policies, we know that sarutobi...is senju follower, I am not sure if he actually decends from senju clan....so there might be common interest between danzou and Madara, but nothing suggests that Madrara is conspiring with Danzou.

remember that nothing suggested that Danzou was working with Oro...might as well be the same in this case with Madara... we dont know for sure its just a mere speculation
and Sarutobi isnt a decendant of the senju clan he is just a follower like you said

[,,,^.^,,,]

i dont think danzou is necessarily a bad guy. he's just on the side of senju extremism in my opinion, which is not evil just archaic, war prone and ready for trouble (which brews trouble ala uchiha). i doubt danzou has anything to do with madara. he wants, above all, to protect konoha. his policy has proven to be 'by any means necessary': dehumanised root members, assassination of sasuke and oro etc. If he is in communication with madara it's to betray him. besides madara would probably have revealed it to sasuke so that theory is.... kinda dumb

[Wannabe]

LOOOL what wit (no sarcasm) ah dude you're a bit of a foot.... leg end... legend. Anyway, I think the reason they cut from him introducing himself to naruto crying, which was too cute n funny, is that it is his name. which is why there is no mystery for me. The other thing is he's overcome with emotions. the questions will come.

I think and hope that you are right. :biggrin1: The scene with Naruto crying was funny and very emotional. I’m glad that Naruto is finally coming to realize some of his and Jiraiya’s past, and that Kishimoto will most likely continue on with this (Sasuke already got a dose of history), instead of leaving it in the bin of questions I would have Naruto ask:

Why is my hair a pee-like yellow color?
Are these marks on my face whiskers, tattoos, or did someone get out a permanent marker while I was asleep?
How come a legendary guy that I know practically nothing about sealed a demon inside of me when I was a cute little baby?

Alas, maybe one day I will find out the true secrets of Minato’s and Naruto’s hair colors and those strange markings on Naruto’s cheeks...but until then, back to this chapter and the next. >.>

I hope we don’t see Sasuke next chapter. He is supposed to be healing his wounds, after all, unless Kishimoto wants to elaborate on the blob that is Suigetsu. I mostly want to see what Naruto is going to do now, the raikage’s plan of action, and how far Pein is from Konoha now that 012573 hours have passed (or however long it’s been).

[-Erios-]

i dont think danzou is necessarily a bad guy. he's just on the side of senju extremism in my opinion, which is not evil just archaic, war prone and ready for trouble (which brews trouble ala uchiha). i doubt danzou has anything to do with madara. he wants, above all, to protect konoha. his policy has proven to be 'by any means necessary': dehumanised root members, assassination of sasuke and oro etc. If he is in communication with madara it's to betray him. besides madara would probably have revealed it to sasuke so that theory is.... kinda dumb

well isnt that the game that eveyone is playing (Madara, Sasuke, Pein, who knows maybe the rest of akatsuki) they all want to gain one's trust and then betray them to get everything

[,,,^.^,,,]

Why is my hair a pee-like yellow color?
Are these marks on my face whiskers, tattoos, or did someone get out a permanent marker while I was asleep?
How come a legendary guy that I know practically nothing about sealed a demon inside of me when I was a cute little baby?

k, you're officially the funniest guy on NC. I LOLed so hard i peed a little.

I hope we don’t see Sasuke next chapter

ditto

well isnt that the game that eveyone is playing (Madara, Sasuke, Pein, who knows maybe the rest of akatsuki) they all want to gain one's trust and then betray them to get everything

you're right that that's the name of the game but i don't think danzou does it for any other reason than the safety of konoha. he is a twisted old bastard, and a remnant of the senju ways but he wants to keep everyone safe. so while he MAY be in touch with madara as you suggest i think his motives have good intentions... even though those fall into a SERIOUS grey area ethically and morally. hope we get more on naruto and danzou next chapter. been missing sai as well, he's really cool.

[-Erios-]

lol I totally forgot about Sai :p
Idk im more interested in seeing pein attack konoha than in Naruto

[,,,^.^,,,]

blasphemer! ;) I think it's still early but we're due a good pein attack in a few chapters. next one HAS to be naruto asking the key questions

[wind33]

For 1, Danzou opposed the third for the Hokage position or some other konoha policies, we know that sarutobi...is senju follower, I am not sure if he actually decends from senju clan....so there might be common interest between danzou and Madara, but nothing suggests that Madrara is conspiring with Danzou.i agree that madara and Danzu may not be working together...1. while Danzu dislikes the way the third/Fifth Hokages ran/is running Kanoha he still wants Kanoha to be the strongest village there is...Madara just wants to utterly destroy kanoha not make it his own strong village...2. How often is it shown that if you're evil and you have a partner that's evil that he's going to eventually betray you and want everything for himself..."there is no honor among theives"...3.I don't see what Danzu could possibly gain from partnering with Madara...i remember he tried to partner with Oro just to get to Sauske to stop Oro from againing the power of the Sharigan but what can Madara offer Danzu?...

Hey guys a thought just went through my head...What if Sauske was a plant from Kanoha like Itachi was and that's why he's been going through all these things to prove that he's on the wrong side when he's really working for Kanoha under cover...I know it sounds a little far fetched but what if him going to Oro and joining Aka is all part of a plan like the one they gave Itachi...I mean he was the last Uchiha in the village and if anyone had the talent to pull it off it would be Sauske...Let me know what you think...

[-Erios-]

i agree that madara and Danzu may not be working together...1. while Danzu dislikes the way the third/Fifth Hokages ran/is running Kanoha he still wants Kanoha to be the strongest village there is...Madara just wants to utterly destroy kanoha not make it his own strong village...2. How often is it shown that if you're evil and you have a partner that's evil that he's going to eventually betray you and want everything for himself..."there is no honor among theives"...3.I don't see what Danzu could possibly gain from partnering with Madara...i remember he tried to partner with Oro just to get to Sauske to stop Oro from againing the power of the Sharigan but what can Madara offer Danzu?...

Hey guys a thought just went through my head...What if Sauske was a plant from Kanoha like Itachi was and that's why he's been going through all these things to prove that he's on the wrong side when he's really working for Kanoha under cover...I know it sounds a little far fetched but what if him going to Oro and joining Aka is all part of a plan like the one they gave Itachi...I mean he was the last Uchiha in the village and if anyone had the talent to pull it off it would be Sauske...Let me know what you think...

i think that its not possible since we saw Sasuke's Motives to betray the leaf i know Sasuke is playing the same game Madara is playing (betrayal) but not because the leaf ordered him to do that he is merly conscious of Itachi's actions he wants madara to believe him that he is gonna destroy the leaf and then POW! sasuke kills Madara since he told itachi that after he killed him he was gonna kill madara uchiha

[PirUnravel]

i dont think danzou is necessarily a bad guy. he's just on the side of senju extremism in my opinion, which is not evil just archaic, war prone and ready for trouble (which brews trouble ala uchiha). i doubt danzou has anything to do with madara. he wants, above all, to protect konoha. his policy has proven to be 'by any means necessary': dehumanised root members, assassination of sasuke and oro etc. If he is in communication with madara it's to betray him. besides madara would probably have revealed it to sasuke so that theory is.... kinda dumb

Great feedback, dude. Really positive.

I will remember your crappy reaction when it eventually comes out that Danzou is more than a Konoha extremist.

[Stucakes]

How can the Naruto vs Sasuke fight happen if Sasuke is secretly good?
He said he wanted to kill Madara before he understood the motives behind Itachi killing the whole clan and etc.
Dont get me wrong, I want Sasuke to not commit Emo-Genocide but Im scared it's going to happen.

[barcode]

I wouldn't be too sure about the jiraiya part. He had known the prophecy for quite some time by then, and he would have no reason to portray the char as himself, since he was never told that HE would become the prophecy.



read this chapter again:
http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/382/08/

[papfles]

read this chapter again:
http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/382/08/

And I stated in that same reply:


He might have modeled the story on his own experiences, I'll give you that.

[Frog Hermit]

the uchiha massacre comes back to madara after all and he was the person itachi wanted to kill all along, the kyuubi attack triggered the suspicion on the clan which was setup by madara to do exactly what has happened, konoha will banish uchiha like the clan banished madara, and would eventually lead to uchiha's plotting to take over the order in konoha cuz an entire clan with one of the strongest bloodlines in history is'nt abt to back down and be discriminated against. im sure sasuke's not dumb enough to realize this and is not abt to take on konoha, but killing the elders would be a nice way to show madara that he is serious until he can make his move, sasuke's pretty powerfull but if a master like itachi has failed to pull it off, sasuke does'nt stand much of a chance, unless he does what itachi intended him to do, u know what i mean.

[Hyugumaki]

Who's to say that Madara wasn't the one to have killed Itachi and Sauske's parents? Sauske heard his parents before they were killed (http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/224/12/) but who's to say that Madara wasn't there with Itachi having a quick converstaion with Itachi's parents before he slaughtered them? Madara was said to have assisted in the destruction of the Uchiha but it's never shown exactly who Madara killed. Maybe this will be another factor that might twist Sauske some about Madara. It's one thing to help kill the clan, but it's still another for someone outside of Sauske's family to have killed his parents.


At any rate, Madara feels confident that Sauske's going to kill all of konoha. This is because of the way he said to Zetsu that he has Sauske right where he wants him comes after the Sauske/Madara convo we were just introduced to. To say that to someone who has vast knowledge of what's happen (Zetsu) is a pretty sure bet that someone's convinced.

[,,,^.^,,,]

Great feedback, dude. Really positive.

I will remember your crappy reaction when it eventually comes out that Danzou is more than a Konoha extremist.

im not sure someone so stupid can remember that far ahead... oh wait, that'll never happen what? read the rest of what i've said.

Anyway, I agree with hyugumaki that madara could have played a bigger role in the uchiha massacre than itachi. still itachi did help in the killing which.... just makes him that much more bad ass. i mean come on. butchering your family and friends for the greater good..... what a legend.

[Frog Hermit]

its not likely for a guy who sacrificed so much, but itachi might have asked for madara's help to kill his parents simply cuz he couldnt do it himself, and then he was in that room to pay his last respects when sasuke showed up. madara thought all of this through, even to the point that itachi would implant amaterasu in sasuke's eyes, but itachi was'nt an amateur either, and i think the answer lies in hyuugamakis profile picture. man what a genius. n e way sasuke is the last ucihiha that can redeem his clan, cuz i know madara wont, if sasuke really respected his brother and u no he did.

[dharq]

As far as Naruto and the main character in the story, what if that's the point?

I mean, Naruto -is- the child of prophecy. Jiraiya was the one to receive the prophecy, and he was the one who was destined to find the child. He was told to write the book. Now, given all of that, isn't it feasible that the book mirrors Naruto's actual life even though it was written before he was born?

I mean, Nostradamus came up with some crazy a** stuff when he was writing, and even though it's up for interpretation, a lot of it seems to match actual history. So why wouldn't another seer (ie - Jiraiya) have that ability as well?

[sasuke123uchiha]

As far as Naruto and the main character in the story, what if that's the point?

I mean, Naruto -is- the child of prophecy. Jiraiya was the one to receive the prophecy, and he was the one who was destined to find the child. He was told to write the book. Now, given all of that, isn't it feasible that the book mirrors Naruto's actual life even though it was written before he was born?

I mean, Nostradamus came up with some crazy a** stuff when he was writing, and even though it's up for interpretation, a lot of it seems to match actual history. So why wouldn't another seer (ie - Jiraiya) have that ability as well?

what are you talking about

[-Erios-]

As far as Naruto and the main character in the story, what if that's the point?

I mean, Naruto -is- the child of prophecy. Jiraiya was the one to receive the prophecy, and he was the one who was destined to find the child. He was told to write the book. Now, given all of that, isn't it feasible that the book mirrors Naruto's actual life even though it was written before he was born?

I mean, Nostradamus came up with some crazy a** stuff when he was writing, and even though it's up for interpretation, a lot of it seems to match actual history. So why wouldn't another seer (ie - Jiraiya) have that ability as well?

hmm.... Nostradamus.... eeh!:tsk:
Jiraiya didnt have those powers to predict whats gonna happen in the future

[Herumor]

As far as Naruto and the main character in the story, what if that's the point?

I mean, Naruto -is- the child of prophecy. Jiraiya was the one to receive the prophecy, and he was the one who was destined to find the child. He was told to write the book. Now, given all of that, isn't it feasible that the book mirrors Naruto's actual life even though it was written before he was born?

I mean, Nostradamus came up with some crazy a** stuff when he was writing, and even though it's up for interpretation, a lot of it seems to match actual history. So why wouldn't another seer (ie - Jiraiya) have that ability as well?

I dunno if Jiraiya was a seer. . .
But he could very well been inspired by something to write what would become a book about Naruto. However, I don't really see it as a mirror of his life so much as a statement about Naruto's personalty. The infamous 'will of fire' the Third Hokage talked about so much was obviously passed from Minato to his son.

As for Sauske, the way his character has been going I don't find it hard to believe him being the "final villain" as people have been saying. However, I can also see him going the other way and simply aiming to kill off the three elders (Or two elders and Danzou, but w/e same thing). But I don't know how calmly he could remain while wiping out the village he grew up in. Maybe he will go forward with the plan of killing off the Leaf, but Naruto will show up and convince him otherwise. He has done so in the past with both Zabuza and Gaara (There could be more times, but those two are the one's I remember).

As for a prediction. . .
Pain will finally invade Konoha? Maybe Kishi will hold off till Naruto is done with his training? But can it really take Pain that long to get to Konoha? I don't even know about that anymore :mad:. I guess we will probably see more of Naruto's training as well as more emo-ness from Sauske. Or will the Raikage catch up with Team Saus-gay?

[Tazuwukei]

I think we're finally going to see Pein. Followed by some lightning + leaf village troubles, and Narutos training

[,,,^.^,,,]

I think we're finally going to see Pein. Followed by some lightning + leaf village troubles, and Narutos training

now THAT would be sweet. if that happens next chapter:GREAT. if not, more naruto would just be sweet.

[Tazuwukei]

now THAT would be sweet. if that happens next chapter:GREAT. if not, more naruto would just be sweet.

Argh, well, I just read the new translation.. Ugh Raikage going after Sasuke.. That'll be thrown in soon, probably. Or next few chapters will be Sasuke dealing with the one following him, at least.

[blind]

I don't think we'll see Sasuke fighting until he gets to Konoha, Kisame and/or Madara will be sufficient to take care of him, maybe Madara will even shock Raikage by revealing he's the Mizukage.

[-Erios-]

Woah!!! another kage battle would be sweet! but i doubt that will happen

[,,,^.^,,,]

Argh, well, I just read the new translation.. Ugh Raikage going after Sasuke.. That'll be thrown in soon, probably. Or next few chapters will be Sasuke dealing with the one following him, at least.

i think it could be madara v raikage just to show what a beast madara is.. that could be sweet.

[winchester20]

Yeah, the Raikage could be a plot tool for Kishi to use for showing everyone just how much of a powerhouse Madara is. I mean, we know Madara is a frickin six pack o' Butt-kick just from what we know about his history, but we have yet to actually see him in a battle. So Raikage might just be another "Killer Bee" character device so Kishi can show Madara struttin his stuff. I hope not though.

[blind]

If that happens, imagine the state of the five shinobi countries. The leader (or former leader) of mist village killing the leader of cloud village, which, seeing as how he's with Sasuke, could point the entire lightning country against Fire country, alongside Earth and perhaps Water.

[daone1]

i honestly think that the raikaga is the real nine tails

[Hidden Ninja]

i honestly think that the raikaga is the real nine tails

:Hammer: .....waste.

i was wondering how are the countries balance. were they all equal or was konoha considered the strongest out of all the countries in present time.

[blind]

I dont' think that was even explained in any way, although it was said that the Hokage was the strongest out of all the kages, that could mean that Fire country is the strongest.

[the lost shinobi]

I think when that was said it meant Sandaime was the strongest of the Kages. In his prime anyway lol

[Hidden Ninja]

well i know konoha was the strongest and they had control of all the bijuus and as good faith, they were given to each of the countries so that there would be a balance of power. but aside from that i wonder what they strength of the other countries are.

[018798]

i dont agree. the 8 tails is hardly an innocent. when you're a combatant, you're not an innocent. you take on the responsibilities and burdens that come with it, one of which is having sasuke amaterasu your ass till you're nice n crispy... innocents would be civilians and konohamaru.

MORE NARUTO NEXT CHAP!!!!!

but technically 8tails is a civilian/citizen of raikages country. 8 tails didnt do anything to sasuke sasuke tracked him down after beating up innocent ppl and attacked 8tails first. he did it on orders from madara/akatsuki, and if u recall wen madara was explaining itachi to sasuke, sauske mentioned itachi was tainted by akatsuki.

that can mean alot of different things, but to me that implies that he meant itachi was doing bad things to innocents. not that we have any proof of itachi doing any such thnigs on orders, but i think thats wat sasuke was implying so he (sauske) tainted himself with akatsuki, hurt innocent civilians and attacked an unknown person all on orders supposedly for personal gain, and delivered a near dead 8 tails to madara.

wateva happens to 8tails whether he survives or not sasuke knowing attacked and gave up 8tails knowing wat would eventualy happen to him (he might not know the specifics but u get my drift)

alot of people dnt see it that way and kishi def wont play that up but to me that makes sasuke irrdemable to me, but kishi spins it how the story how he wants so people wont give much thort to the fact that sasuke has attacked and virtually condemned an innocent
just my thorts lol:yo:

[CaptainWolf8]

Pain will crush Konhoa!!!! Pain FTW

[jejeje]

I think that if tsunade has to die... it will either be pein that kills her or Danzou.


Dam wats taking pein so long..

[Stucakes]

Nah, Pain will crush the Ramen house & kill Tsunade . Conveniently leaving everyone else alive.

[-Erios-]

I think that if tsunade has to die... it will either be pein that kills her or Danzou.


Dam wats taking pein so long..

well maybe she will get killed by one of peins bodies....MAYBE

and well pein went to the shinobie store to buy some new shurikens and a whole bag of chips :p

[raugaj08_]

well maybe she will get killed by one of peins bodies....MAYBE

and well pein went to the shinobie store to buy some new shurikens and a whole bag of chips :p

dont forget the nail polish yeah...

[Erotique]

It was sort of a let down of how Kishi illustrated Raikage... It would've been much cooler if Raikage's face would've been hidden by the shades of his hat and etc., to add a little bit of mysticism... *shrugs*.

Instead, we got a Raikage with a funky mustache and lot of muscle (just like his little brother)... Is it me? Or is Kishi just putting way his creativities aside, just to hasten the story progress?

[SpikeUchiha]

im still not sure whats madaras deal is i mean its like he wants sasuke to take itachi's path and he gets the cold shoulder twice..poor tobi i wish he was still a good boy.

[018798]

im still not sure whats madaras deal is i mean its like he wants sasuke to take itachi's path and he gets the cold shoulder twice..poor tobi i wish he was still a good boy.

madara is a mystery and so is pein.:p

[blind]

im still not sure whats madaras deal is i mean its like he wants sasuke to take itachi's path and he gets the cold shoulder twice..poor tobi i wish he was still a good boy.

He's probably just testing the waters, when he finds out that Sasuke's sure he's going to take that path, he'll probably ask him to join him in the destruction of Konoha, as they both share the same goal now.

[estranged]

It was sort of a let down of how Kishi illustrated Raikage... It would've been much cooler if Raikage's face would've been hidden by the shades of his hat and etc., to add a little bit of mysticism... *shrugs*.
if kishi did that you'd be like "omfg first it was pein, then madara, now it's raikage, just show the damn face dammit this pisses me off!!"

[018798]

if kishi did that you'd be like "omfg first it was pein, then madara, now it's raikage, just show the damn face dammit this pisses me off!!"

lol so true, but i hate the raikage hes got the most stuffed appearance in this manga with his little mustache i mean, and wth doin weights

[sasuke123uchiha]

atleast he showed us his face from his first appearnce

[,,,^.^,,,]

but technically 8tails is a civilian/citizen of raikages country.

Dude, there's no way in hell that you can call someone like the 8 tails an innocent bystander. The guy is a ninja. When you're a ninja you're inviting people to come kill your ass. Doesnt matter if you've provoked it or deserved it or not. It comes with the territory. I agree with you that the guy has obviously done nothing to deserve it, nor does he seem like a bad guy but there's no calling him innocent and he is not a civilian.

But I thoroughly agree with you that targetting Jinchuuriki is just as bad. They are a particular brand of messed up and sasuke should know that from naruto.

[Stucakes]

It seemed like in the other villages besides Sand and this one, they were glad that the Jinchuriki were captured.
http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/266/14/

[-Erios-]

It seemed like in the other villages besides Sand and this one, they were glad that the Jinchuriki were captured.
http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/266/14/

well it was probably because they didnt understand the jinchuriki's feelings

[blind]

It seemed like in the other villages besides Sand and this one, they were glad that the Jinchuriki were captured.
http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/266/14/

Wouldn't say they were glad they were captured, more like they didn't care. If they really wanted to get rid of them, then they could have just exiled them, why wait for someone to come capture them?

[Itachi_the_Feared_One]

Wouldn't say they were glad they were captured, more like they didn't care. If they really wanted to get rid of them, then they could have just exiled them, why wait for someone to come capture them?

Jinchiruuki , are hated by their fellow villagers, because they host demons, however they are considered a big assets and formidable weapons by their rulers (Kages and feudal lords).

[blind]

Yes, but to say that they'll be glad that they were captured? Why not just have them exiled? Like you said, Jinchuurikis could serve as a powerful force military wise, so I wouldn't say they'd want to be rid of them.

[Itachi_the_Feared_One]

I just realised that Sasuke's team is made of a perv, a bully and a psycopath.............:biggrin1:

[dharq]

I just realised that Sasuke's team is made of a perv, a bully and a psycopath.............:biggrin1:

LOL. You say perv like it's a bad thing. Heck, when is having a female S&M perv on your team -ever- a bad thing?

On topic though, hoo boy, Suig looks totally trashed in 416, does he not?

[blind]

LOL. You say perv like it's a bad thing. Heck, when is having a female S&M perv on your team -ever- a bad thing?

On topic though, hoo boy, Suig looks totally trashed in 416, does he not?

I'd think so, getting blasted through by the beam attack that's simliar to Naruto's in 4tk, even though he's made of water, he's got to be destroyed.

[Gman47]

Who's to say that Madara wasn't the one to have killed Itachi and Sauske's parents? Sauske heard his parents before they were killed (http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/224/12/) but who's to say that Madara wasn't there with Itachi having a quick converstaion with Itachi's parents before he slaughtered them? Madara was said to have assisted in the destruction of the Uchiha but it's never shown exactly who Madara killed. Maybe this will be another factor that might twist Sauske some about Madara. It's one thing to help kill the clan, but it's still another for someone outside of Sauske's family to have killed his parents.


At any rate, Madara feels confident that Sauske's going to kill all of konoha. This is because of the way he said to Zetsu that he has Sauske right where he wants him comes after the Sauske/Madara convo we were just introduced to. To say that to someone who has vast knowledge of what's happen (Zetsu) is a pretty sure bet that someone's convinced.

I agree with you, i mean who's to say Madara didn't even kill the whole clan including Sasuke's parents then hand Itachi the bloody sword so he can do his act while he hides in the shadows. The elders never knew that Itachi went to Madara for assistance, plus they still believe he's dead.

[blind]

I agree with you, i mean who's to say Madara didn't even kill the whole clan including Sasuke's parents then hand Itachi the bloody sword so he can do his act while he hides in the shadows. The elders never knew that Itachi went to Madara for assistance, plus they still believe he's dead.

Exactly like you said, the Elders doesn't know Madara is still alive, if he was the one that did all the killing, he's risk getting himself exposed more. Plus, it's not like Itachi is incompetent, he did call Madara an accomplice, not the one that did the job by himself.

[Gman47]

lol so true, but i hate the raikage hes got the most stuffed appearance in this manga with his little mustache i mean, and wth doin weights

The first people I thought of when I saw Raikages face was the guy from American Choppers and Omega Shenron lawl :p

I'd think so, getting blasted through by the beam attack that's simliar to Naruto's in 4tk, even though he's made of water, he's got to be destroyed.

I actually think the 8tj's beam attack was far stronger then Naruto's 4t beam attack because the 8tj is in his 8 tailed form, tho both beam attacks were insane anyway lol, u would think a beam attack that big tho would evaporate/destroy all the water cells or w/e lol :D, Perhaps the 8tj will stick around to one day be the trainer of Naruto on controlling his jinchuuriki better?

Exactly like you said, the Elders doesn't know Madara is still alive, if he was the one that did all the killing, he's risk getting himself exposed more. Plus, it's not like Itachi is incompetent, he did call Madara an accomplice, not the one that did the job by himself.

yea that's true, forgot about that, it'll still be a big surprise to the elders when/if they find out about Madara, and maybe Madara's assistance in the killing unless Sasuke doesn't want to disgrace his brother's name, tho it already is considered disgraced by those who don't know the truth

[winchester20]

I actually think the 8tj's beam attack was far stronger then Naruto's 4t beam attack because the 8tj is in his 8 tailed form, tho both beam attacks were insane anyway lol, u would think a beam attack that big tho would evaporate/destroy all the water cells or w/e lol :D

Yeah, LOL.

Though in this case, I think it's 6 or 1/2 dozen. It doesn't matter if the bore measures 8 or 12 inches, you're still just a fine red mist in the wind. Or I guess in Suigetsu's case a very light drizzle of moisture for the grass. I'm very interested to see if he ends up surviving that blast. If he does, my opinion of suiton users will go up quite a few notches.

[blind]

I actually think the 8tj's beam attack was far stronger then Naruto's 4t beam attack because the 8tj is in his 8 tailed form, tho both beam attacks were insane anyway lol, u would think a beam attack that big tho would evaporate/destroy all the water cells or w/e lol :D, Perhaps the 8tj will stick around to one day be the trainer of Naruto on controlling his jinchuuriki better?

I disagree, from the looks of it, the scale of the attack was roughly the same as the one of Naruto's, so I'd say they're the same. Also, the side effects of the Killer Bee's beam attack wasn't as severe when compared to 4tk's beam attack, which practically took out an entire landscape.

[Gman47]

I disagree, from the looks of it, the scale of the attack was roughly the same as the one of Naruto's, so I'd say they're the same. Also, the side effects of the Killer Bee's beam attack wasn't as severe when compared to 4tk's beam attack, which practically took out an entire landscape.

Hmmmm, you got me there blind lol :p

Yeah, LOL.

Though in this case, I think it's 6 or 1/2 dozen. It doesn't matter if the bore measures 8 or 12 inches, you're still just a fine red mist in the wind. Or I guess in Suigetsu's case a very light drizzle of moisture for the grass. I'm very interested to see if he ends up surviving that blast. If he does, my opinion of suiton users will go up quite a few notches.

Same for me, I i will also give Suigetsu more credit, I'm usually used to seenin him make himself get jacked up or his face a big water mess ala Karin lol

[,,,^.^,,,]

you know, i wouldnt mind seeing sasuke if it reveals that he's scheming something good for a change... though im pretty sure it'll take a year to get there XD

[blind]

Kishi certainly has him set up that way, he could either go with the destruction of Konoha for the reason that he's stated, or he could say he was scheming to be good from the beginning, just to honor Itachi's wish. I would prefer the former happening, simply because the latter case would make Naruto's goal meaningless, in the sense that he didn't really have to do anything to get Sasuke back.

[,,,^.^,,,]

yeah you're right. still naruto need not save everyone. it would be nice if someone saved him for a change. maybe not sasuke but someone. actually in the end i suspect it WILL be everyone that saves him.

[blind]

yeah you're right. still naruto need not save everyone. it would be nice if someone saved him for a change. maybe not sasuke but someone. actually in the end i suspect it WILL be everyone that saves him.

I agree, I also think the ending will involve everyone doing what Naruto has done for them, a nice change of pace. However, I still believe Sasuke is his promise, and that he'll bring him back before everyone can help him out, or he'll get the help while going after Sasuke.

[Dream Catcher]

This manga will end with Naruto holding Sasuke in his hands after he kills him

[Stucakes]

What a sad ending that would be. : ( I predict that it ends with Naruto becoming Kage and changing the way the whole ninja world operates.
Maybe he will kill Sasuke but I doubt it will just end there. Theres got to be a moral to the story.

[Dream Catcher]

lol, since when do manga stories have morals ? O_o

The way things are looking now, Sasuke will live, Naruto will become Hokage or follow in the steps of Jman and Kakashi will be Hokage. We know for sure that Madara will die, and so will the rest of Akatsuki.

The moral, if you want one, of this story is that the young always pass the old

[Gman47]

The way I see this ending is with all the major baddies dead or unable to do their bad things anymore. And Sasuke is good again, I see Madara dying from a rasengan/chidori combo from Naruto and Sasuke, it's bound to happen, and then some more stuff, and an epilogue where we see Naruto as hokage and him and Hinata made babies, as well as Sasuke and Sakura, thus restoring the Uchiha clan and restoring it's honor in Konoha thanks to Naruto.

But that's just me :D

[Dream Catcher]

you should just die

[blind]

I don't think the series will end with Sasuke dying in Naruto's arm, but I do see Sasuke dying. I still think there is some epilogue where Naruto becomes Hokage, and he remembers Sasuke and what not.

And play nice, DC. :p

[winchester20]

I really like the idea of everyone coming to save Naruto as an ending for the manga. It's very poetic. Naruto has, throughout the series, had to change everyone's outlook towards himself and get them to accept them, and in so doing, often changed those people for the better. It would be sweetly dramatic to see not only the village nin, but all the other nin throughout the Narutoverse that he has affected to end up coming and saving him in the end. That would work in very well with the prophecy as the one the procphecy is about is supposed to unify the ninja world. The shinobi all coming together out of love and loyalty to him and coming to ultimately save him from whatever certain-death situation he found himself in would certainly change the world in the way that the prophecy predicts.

As for what will ultimately happen with Sasuke, I really can't say just yet. Too many variables and not enough clues to work with atm, at least for me.

[Gman47]

you should just die

hey hey DC, that's not cool :fencing:

that's just my outlook ya kno, more so what'd i'd like to happen but some of that stuff prob won't happen if any lol

but hey, can't complain cause no1 listens anyway haha :D

[the lost shinobi]

I would love the manga to end with Sasuke dieing a heroic death. It seems he's gonna do some crazy evil stuff soon, stuff he may have to pay dearly for. I want it to end with Naruto becoming more mature, believing in himself. I don't really want him to be Hokage, but he does own the title one day, that's also cool. My preference would be for him to not get it though. His mission has always to get people to acknowledge him. At the time Hokage was the biggest thing he could envision. It still is. But I would much rather see a Naruto that resembles Jiraiya. Protecting the villiage at all times, yet at the same time doing his own thing and still having the world acknowledge him. J-man wasn't the Hokage but everyone knew who he was.

[rasenproc]

if saskue dies i also see naruto being the one to do it. another potential conclusion could be naruto saskue and sakura defeating kabuchimaru. i think he is the final villian

[Dream Catcher]

Sasuke won't die. If anything, he will become Hokage and Naruto will travel the marshes

[blind]

I would love the manga to end with Sasuke dieing a heroic death. It seems he's gonna do some crazy evil stuff soon, stuff he may have to pay dearly for. I want it to end with Naruto becoming more mature, believing in himself. I don't really want him to be Hokage, but he does own the title one day, that's also cool. My preference would be for him to not get it though. His mission has always to get people to acknowledge him. At the time Hokage was the biggest thing he could envision. It still is. But I would much rather see a Naruto that resembles Jiraiya. Protecting the villiage at all times, yet at the same time doing his own thing and still having the world acknowledge him. J-man wasn't the Hokage but everyone knew who he was.

Being Hokage would mean him acheiving his life long goal, as well as the highest form of recognition that everyone could give him. I'm sure that him becoming Hokage is inevitable, it's just a matter of when.

[Dream Catcher]

But that dream seems to be changing now. Didn't anyone notice that Naruto stopped saying "I have to get Sasuke back because I'll be the Hokage" , now he just wants to get Sasuke back and maybe protect everyone? He seems to be developing an obsession with the Emo but also forgetting about his Hokage dream.

[Hidden Ninja]

i think he realized that as long as he doesnt have the power to save sasuke, he isnt fit to be hokage. or at least thats how i think he sees it.

[the lost shinobi]

Being Hokage would mean him acheiving his life long goal, as well as the highest form of recognition that everyone could give him. I'm sure that him becoming Hokage is inevitable, it's just a matter of when.

i wouldn't say it's inevitable. And I also wouldn't say the only way to achieve his goal is by becoming Hokage.

But that dream seems to be changing now. Didn't anyone notice that Naruto stopped saying "I have to get Sasuke back because I'll be the Hokage" , now he just wants to get Sasuke back and maybe protect everyone? He seems to be developing an obsession with the Emo but also forgetting about his Hokage dream.

yay a bolster to my wish/theory

i think he realized that as long as he doesnt have the power to save sasuke, he isnt fit to be hokage. or at least thats how i think he sees it.

yep he even said it to him when he met him in Oro's hideout
http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/307/17/

[Hidden Ninja]

tls its just eerie that you found that page so fast....

[the lost shinobi]

well after linking to many pages in the manga to prove my theories, i have a better sense of where stuff is now. very geekish of me

[Dream Catcher]

I think he has those pages on speed paste :p

[blind]

But that dream seems to be changing now. Didn't anyone notice that Naruto stopped saying "I have to get Sasuke back because I'll be the Hokage" , now he just wants to get Sasuke back and maybe protect everyone? He seems to be developing an obsession with the Emo but also forgetting about his Hokage dream.

Which is why I said it'll happen, sooner (before saving Sasuke, then saving Sasuke as his mission as Hokage), or later (saving Sasuke, then accepting the job).

i wouldn't say it's inevitable. And I also wouldn't say the only way to achieve his goal is by becoming Hokage.


For something that's been reiterated so many times over the course of the series, it's extremely unlikely that Naruto just goes, "Oh, forget it, I'll just protect the village." Think about it this way, when he finds out about his father, which is bound to happen, will he not want to model himself after him?

[Dream Catcher]

But how will it happen now or later if that dream is fading? Not like he is putting it away and focusing on this. He hasn't even mentioned wanting to become Hokage lately, just SAVE SASUSKE SAVE SASUSKE.

[,,,^.^,,,]

damn, DC's in a lolcat mood ;). Yeah these endings would all be very sweet. Now do you think the next few chapters are the beginning of the end??

[018798]

yea that's true, forgot about that, it'll still be a big surprise to the elders when/if they find out about Madara, and maybe Madara's assistance in the killing unless Sasuke doesn't want to disgrace his brother's name, tho it already is considered disgraced by those who don't know the truth

what bugs me is when madara revealed himself to kisame, kisame responded by saying "mizukage oh i mean madara" etc but if kisame knew the mizukage was madara then how come the other villages espeacially konoha not realize its madara coz yea, and didnt the 3rd meet mizukage once involving the byakugan buisness.

oh wait dat was raikage but yea my point is y hasnt hokage realized mizukage is madara? does anyone have any ideas

[Dream Catcher]

damn, DC's in a lolcat mood ;). Yeah these endings would all be very sweet. Now do you think the next few chapters are the beginning of the end??

The way things have been developing lately, it's safe to assume that this IS indeed the beginning of the end. On the other hand, if you would look at it from a normal point of view (meaning, not rushing things like Kishi is doing now) there would be a whole other arc about Kumo involved with Akatsuki and the Raikage's revenge, another arc for Kumo and Konoha relations and Naruto training, another arc for Sakura and Kakashi development and a final arc for the epic battle of epicness (whatever that may be)

A few of those arcs can be merged, but that's still around 300 more chapters... maybe more

[blind]

oh wait dat was raikage but yea my point is y hasnt hokage realized mizukage is madara? does anyone have any ideas

For the same reason that Sandaime didn't know about Orochimaru being the Kazekage during the times leading up to the Chuunin exam: Internal affairs of that magnitude stays within the village.

[the lost shinobi]

Which is why I said it'll happen, sooner (before saving Sasuke, then saving Sasuke as his mission as Hokage), or later (saving Sasuke, then accepting the job).



For something that's been reiterated so many times over the course of the series, it's extremely unlikely that Naruto just goes, "Oh, forget it, I'll just protect the village." Think about it this way, when he finds out about his father, which is bound to happen, will he not want to model himself after him?

think about it this way. won't he want to model himself after Jiraiya, his teacher and the closest thing to a real father he ever had, infact J-man is his god-father.

what bugs me is when madara revealed himself to kisame, kisame responded by saying "mizukage oh i mean madara" etc but if kisame knew the mizukage was madara then how come the other villages espeacially konoha not realize its madara coz yea, and didnt the 3rd meet mizukage once involving the byakugan buisness.

oh wait dat was raikage but yea my point is y hasnt hokage realized mizukage is madara? does anyone have any ideas

well Madara could very easily have a decoy for the meetings when kage's meet. He can also conceal his face like th previous Kazekage did. And his sharingan can be turned off. I guess it's a minor thing Kishi may explain later, but it does make you wonder

[blind]

But how will it happen now or later if that dream is fading? Not like he is putting it away and focusing on this. He hasn't even mentioned wanting to become Hokage lately, just SAVE SASUSKE SAVE SASUSKE.

Just because he's maturing and won't shout out his dreams over and over again, doesn't mean the dream is dead.

think about it this way. won't he want to model himself after Jiraiya, his teacher and the closest thing to a real father he ever had, infact J-man is his god-father.


Not when he finds out about his father, Jiraiya would still be important, no doubt, but I'd think he'd model himself after his real father...

[018798]

well Madara could very easily have a decoy for the meetings when kage's meet. He can also conceal his face like th previous Kazekage did. And his sharingan can be turned off. I guess it's a minor thing Kishi may explain later, but it does make you wonder

was the covered face in manga and anime or only anime? for kazekage i mean

[the lost shinobi]

well only time will tell Blind... I lean on the J-man

EDIT: i think the covered face was in the manga as well.

[blind]

was the covered face in manga and anime or only anime? for kazekage i mean

Both...

well only time will tell Blind... I lean on the J-man

Thing is, he can still be like Jiraiya, personality wise, and still be a Hokage. But yes, I guess we'll agree to disagree.

[Dream Catcher]

How can your role model be a person who is dead and you never met and know nothing about compared to a person who practically raised you and protected you and showed you how to live

[the lost shinobi]

How can your role model be a person who is dead and you never met and know nothing about compared to a person who practically raised you and protected you and showed you how to live

thats quite simple actually. do you know how many people idolize dead people. malcom X, ALbert Einstein, Mohammed, Jesus, FDR, Kennedy etc....

[blind]

How can your role model be a person who is dead and you never met and know nothing about compared to a person who practically raised you and protected you and showed you how to live

Who said anything about being a role model? Being a model of someone doesn't mean that person has to be your role model, it's just a personality that you take up after that person. And for someone who aspires (or aspired, depending on how you want to look at it) to be the Hokage, I'd think he want to be more like his father than Jiraiya, in terms of what he does to the village, definitely not his personality.

[018798]

How can your role model be a person who is dead and you never met and know nothing about compared to a person who practically raised you and protected you and showed you how to live

i agree he looks at jirayia and iruka as father figures and i rekon wehn he does find out he might possibly have a little resentment to the fourth for what he did to his own son

[Dream Catcher]

thats quite simple actually. do you know how many people idolize dead people. malcom X, ALbert Einstein, Mohammed, Jesus, FDR, Kennedy etc....

Then his role model might as well be the third, or Kakashi, no? The 4th didn't do anything radical except sealing the 4 tails. Hell, the 1st could CONTROL ALL the bijuu... what now? ;)

Who said anything about being a role model? Being a model of someone doesn't mean that person has to be your role model, it's just a personality that you take up after that person. And for someone who aspires (or aspired, depending on how you want to look at it) to be the Hokage, I'd think he want to be more like his father than Jiraiya, in terms of what he does to the village, definitely not his personality.

But that aspiration is not there anymore. Like I said before, he hasn't said anything about being Hokage for the past few months (chapter wise) All he wants to do is be as strong as Sasuke to bring him back ? or w/e he wants to do. And even if he finds out the 4th was his dad, he won't take up after him, he might even be angry at him for sealing the 9 tails into naruto and making him live such a horrible life without parents or friends

[blind]

But that aspiration is not there anymore. Like I said before, he hasn't said anything about being Hokage for the past few months (chapter wise) All he wants to do is be as strong as Sasuke to bring him back ? or w/e he wants to do. And even if he finds out the 4th was his dad, he won't take up after him, he might even be angry at him for sealing the 9 tails into naruto and making him live such a horrible life without parents or friends

Yes, but considering how he believes that without bringing Sasuke back, he isn't worthy of the title of Hokage, saving Sasuke is indirectly contributing to his aspiration to become Hokage, since it's a requirement in his mind for him to be worthy of the seat.

As for hating the 4th, sure, I guess that's possible. However, he already knows that the fourth sealed Kyuubi inside him, he doesn't hate him now, and when he finds out about his relationship with him, I doubt that would change.

[winchester20]

I'm pretty sure Naruto idolizes the 4th doesn't he? Seem to remember pre-Timeskip, just before he headed out with Jiraiya, he looked up at the Hokage faces and looked up at the 4th's figurehead and said something to the effect of "Watch me," or "Watch over me." Something like that. I've always thought he had a special place in his heart for the 4th. Even after finding out that he sealed the Kyuubi inside him.

I just can't imagine Naruto not becoming the Hokage. Doesn't matter that he hasn't been banging the drum about it every chapter now for a while. I think it just goes back to that statement he made to Sasuke that anyone who can't save his friend isn't worthy to be Hokage, and so he's focusing on saving Sasuke ftm and will then get back into "Naruto for Hokage" mode.

[Murdock]

But that aspiration is not there anymore. Like I said before, he hasn't said anything about being Hokage for the past few months (chapter wise) All he wants to do is be as strong as Sasuke to bring him back ? or w/e he wants to do. And even if he finds out the 4th was his dad, he won't take up after him, he might even be angry at him for sealing the 9 tails into naruto and making him live such a horrible life without parents or friends

tell me how he can be talking about being Hokage when all Manga time is reserv ed for Sasuke last 9 months??? it's pretty tought to say i wanna be Hokage when you don't have time for that and when he has his little story and emotional part so really tehre isn't any time for that ...

[winchester20]

tell me how he can be talking about being Hokage when all Manga time is reserv ed for Sasuke last 9 months??? it's pretty tought to say i wanna be Hokage when you don't have time for that and when he has his little story and emotional part so really tehre isn't any time for that ...

.....and what Murdock said.

[Tazuwukei]

I'm pretty sure Naruto idolizes the 4th doesn't he? Seem to remember pre-Timeskip, just before he headed out with Jiraiya, he looked up at the Hokage faces and looked up at the 4th's figurehead and said something to the effect of "Watch me," or "Watch over me." Something like that. I've always thought he had a special place in his heart for the 4th. Even after finding out that he sealed the Kyuubi inside him.

I just can't imagine Naruto not becoming the Hokage. Doesn't matter that he hasn't been banging the drum about it every chapter now for a while. I think it just goes back to that statement he made to Sasuke that anyone who can't save his friend isn't worthy to be Hokage, and so he's focusing on saving Sasuke ftm and will then get back into "Naruto for Hokage" mode.

I thought it was something like "Watch me surpass you!" or something.

http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/238/15/
http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/238/16/

Hmm "Watch me!" and he makes a fist, heh. I think they translated it differently from the anime. I was sure he said something about becoming better then him, ah well. Saying Watch me and making a fist sort of implies something along those lines.

[rasenproc]

I thought it was something like "Watch me surpass you!" or something.

http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/238/15/
http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/238/16/

Hmm "Watch me!" and he makes a fist, heh. I think they translated it differently from the anime. I was sure he said something about becoming better then him, ah well. Saying Watch me and making a fist sort of implies something along those lines.

he has stated his goal is to be the greatest hokage so passin the 4th would be part of that

[CaptainWolf8]

I think that he knows he was the strongest and Narutowants to surpass him

New Sig :P

[,,,^.^,,,]

A few of those arcs can be merged, but that's still around 300 more chapters... maybe more

IF they did it the way you described then yeah that would defo take a while But i dont think these things will even be merged. I see raikage lasting no longer than his brother. he's fishbait for madara to show his strength IMO. Still there are at least two more decent arcs left...

[Karin<3]

Naruto is more emo then Sasuke, fail poll is fail.

[blind]

IF they did it the way you described then yeah that would defo take a while But i dont think these things will even be merged. I see raikage lasting no longer than his brother. he's fishbait for madara to show his strength IMO. Still there are at least two more decent arcs left...

Yeah, but arcs could be merged in the sense that things are happening at the same time. There are too many characters that Kishi has to show to have them all have their own individual arc. Things like Pein searching for Naruto and Sasuke invading Konoha will occur at the same time.

[JD021]

thats the book jiraya wrote that naruto was named after right??

i think that nothing much will happen during next weeks chapter except for naruto training or wrapping it up & sasuke ready to make his move on konoha only to bump into the raikage or sumthing of that nature.. btw i loved this weeks chapter for some strange reason

[blind]

thats the book jiraya wrote that naruto was named after right??

i think that nothing much will happen during next weeks chapter except for naruto training or wrapping it up & sasuke ready to make his move on konoha only to bump into the raikage or sumthing of that nature.. btw i loved this weeks chapter for some strange reason

The book that Naruto is currently reading? Yeah, that's the book that Jiraiya named Naruto with.

As for next week, I think we'll see Pein, Sasuke's business is done for the time being, and Naruto is finishing up his training. Raikage wouldn't get to Sasuke for a bit, so Pein is the only character left at the moment.

[-Erios-]

Yeah, but arcs could be merged in the sense that things are happening at the same time. There are too many characters that Kishi has to show to have them all have their own individual arc. Things like Pein searching for Naruto and Sasuke invading Konoha will occur at the same time.
well i wouldnt be so sure of that i mean there is probably going to be another fight that SAsuke will get involved in...the raikage will prbably intercept team hawk and have a fight ending with the raikage probably dead .....but hopefully no

[blind]

well i wouldnt be so sure of that i mean there is probably going to be another fight that SAsuke will get involved in...the raikage will prbably intercept team hawk and have a fight ending with the raikage probably dead .....but hopefully no

Sasuke in his condition will not fight the Raikage, plus, why can't two fights happen simultaneously? Deidara vs. Kakashi and Chiyo vs. Sasori happened at the same time, so that's considered one arc.

[-Erios-]

hmmm.... well yeah you are right that was consider one arc, but like maybe after team hawk goes and attack konoha raikage will intercept team hawk which will probably be traveling with Madara ,then madara is gonna be like "let me show you how it is done Sasuke" and there we have another kage battle :p

[blind]

hmmm.... well yeah you are right that was consider one arc, but like maybe after team hawk goes and attack konoha raikage will intercept team hawk which will probably be traveling with Madara ,then madara is gonna be like "let me show you how it is done Sasuke" and there we have another kage battle :p

From what we know, they're still within Lightning country, I doubt the Raikage would let them get away before they leave, as he's already shown that he's on the way. Sasuke will probably heal up, then Madara will take on Raikage as Sasuke takes care of the rest of the shinobi, then heads off to Konoha.

[-Erios-]

yeah that sound possible but like I didnt know they were still at the Lightning country :confused: so akatsuki has their hideouts all around the world??

[blind]

yeah that sound possible but like I didnt know they were still at the Lightning country :confused: so akatsuki has their hideouts all around the world??

Why does where Sasuke met Madara have to be an akatsuki hideout? He just called it a rendezous point, it could be any arbitrary spot. Also, they didn't seem to have traveled all that far.

[-Erios-]

yeah probably but i htought it was an akatsuki hideout lol i guess nor....:p


i wonder whats up with sui i mean WTF i mean what type of liquid is his body??? it surely isnt regular water...

[blind]

i wonder whats up with sui i mean WTF i mean what type of liquid is his body??? it surely isnt regular water...

Obviously not, he can transform it into muscles, and into whatever form he wants, so it's pretty much just chakra infused water, so that he can do whatever he wants with it.

[HolyDemonAndy]

You know... Makes you wonder why Sasuke didn't say anything about killing Danzou. He was in on it too after all. :O

:fencing:

OMFG THING! :O Lol.

[Arty]

Welcome

To NC.

[HolyDemonAndy]

Why does where Sasuke met Madara have to be an akatsuki hideout? He just called it a rendezous point, it could be any arbitrary spot. Also, they didn't seem to have traveled all that far.

Would YOU like to see a bunch of scenes about Sasuke just walking back toward the rendevous point and have the manga take LONGER to get to us? ;o Lol.

Obviously not, he can transform it into muscles, and into whatever form he wants, so it's pretty much just chakra infused water, so that he can do whatever he wants with it.

You do know that the body is made up of a certain amount of water naturally, right? >,> Whether this holds true for Masashi Kishimoto's story or not, I have no clue. v,v; Lol.

Welcome

To NC.

Thanks. ^,^; :D

[the lost shinobi]

You know... Makes you wonder why Sasuke didn't say anything about killing Danzou. He was in on it too after all. :O

:fencing:

OMFG THING! :O Lol.

welcome to NC. keep posting. But anyway yes Sasuke did mention Danzou if not by name. He said he hated the elders of Konoha who knew of Itachi's mission, Danzou being one of them. Remember Danzou was the leader of the ANBU Black Ops.

I'm really hoping Sasuke fights each of these elders. I wanna see what they're all about, especially Danzou. He led ANBU and challenged Sandaime for the seat of Hokage, so he must have some tricks up his sleeve.

And get rid of that triple post. Use your edit button on the bottom your post.

[blind]

You know... Makes you wonder why Sasuke didn't say anything about killing Danzou. He was in on it too after all. :O

:fencing:

OMFG THING! :O Lol.

Danzou is one of the "three elders" that Sasuke mentioned...

Would YOU like to see a bunch of scenes about Sasuke just walking back toward the rendevous point and have the manga take LONGER to get to us? ;o Lol.

With Sasuke's injury, plus having to carry those bodies around, do you think he could go too far away?