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blind
09-09-2008, 12:40 AM
Discussion of the spoilers go in here.
Post spoiler pictures/scripts in here (http://forum.narutochaos.com/showthread.php?t=17912).
That is all.
Itachi_the_Feared_One
09-09-2008, 02:15 AM
Naruto 416 Spoiler:
Page 1-2: Naruto grabs the book, glances at it, and says he'll read it later, putting it in his pocket.
Page 3-17: Pain arrives at Konoha, and walks right through the front gate, killing both the entrance guards. Konan is not with him, and he's using only 1 body. Kakashi appears, and charges at Pain with Chidori with furious eyes.
Did you just come up with that ???? or was it on MH,
anyway..............Fake
ANBUMike
09-09-2008, 02:19 AM
Naruto 416 Spoiler:
Page 1-2: Naruto grabs the book, glances at it, and says he'll read it later, putting it in his pocket.
Page 3-17: Pain arrives at Konoha, and walks right through the front gate, killing both the entrance guards. Konan is not with him, and he's using only 1 body. Kakashi appears, and charges at Pain with Chidori with furious eyes.
LOLOLOLOL! That has to be the crappiest spoiler in the world.
It's too soon for Kakashi to die, and naruto puts away the book after the title of this chapter is supposed to be "jiraiya's heart?" lol :banana::banana:
-Erios-
09-09-2008, 02:22 AM
Naruto 416 Spoiler:
Page 1-2: Naruto grabs the book, glances at it, and says he'll read it later, putting it in his pocket.
Page 3-17: Pain arrives at Konoha, and walks right through the front gate, killing both the entrance guards. Konan is not with him, and he's using only 1 body. Kakashi appears, and charges at Pain with Chidori with furious eyes.
hmmm that sounded more like your personal prediction so i must say that you made it up in a hurry!
seriously next time think about it a little more....FAKE
Csdabest
09-09-2008, 02:42 AM
Do we really have to go through the repitition of calling something fake. This time around. I say we take a new approach. How about calling them crap this time around instead of fake.
Seriously. Who ever wrote these needs to be given immortality. Shot in the crotch with an AP round. And burried in a hole to give them sometime to think before they post.
-Erios-
09-09-2008, 02:46 AM
ohh how i love to see how ppl get mad over something so meaningless like this
Csdabest
09-09-2008, 02:47 AM
Im not mad. I find it funny. Just had to add my violent cruel sense of humor into the mix
-Erios-
09-09-2008, 02:50 AM
well yeah thats mostly why i posted it because i thought i was funny to read and because im B O R E D
to me it was a good laugh tho...
papfles
09-09-2008, 05:27 AM
That erios-spoiler would be nice... Hachibi still alive and kicking, would be a nice change from the "one shot kill".
Erotique
09-09-2008, 05:48 AM
seriously next time think about it a little more....FAKE
Indeed...
I had a hard-on for nothing...
Murdock
09-09-2008, 07:04 AM
Csdabest stop spamming in spoiler thread are you ***** or what? spoiler thread is only for spoilers and not for discussion ... READ!!!!!
Hyugumaki
09-09-2008, 09:34 AM
Those spoilers .... were just terrible.
Whoever decides to write fake spoilers really needs to try and post something more realistic, especially when it's 3 lines long.
sasuke123uchiha
09-09-2008, 10:39 AM
i hope the one pain invading konoha is true (even though it looks fake)
Erotique
09-09-2008, 11:57 AM
I don't think Kishi is done with Sasugay yet...
I reckon he's going to savor all he can out of Sasugay (as always) and leave everything else (Naruto included) secondary priority...
Sad but true...
rasenproc
09-09-2008, 12:16 PM
if the first one is even close and i doubt that... bye bye kakashi
wind33
09-09-2008, 12:25 PM
they can't kill off kakshi yet he still has story development to be done ... The first spoiler is completely ridiculous...a bit more imagination if u please...hopefully we'll get some better intel today.
-Erios-
09-09-2008, 12:54 PM
well kakashi dying...not yet
all i want to see is the rematch for guy and kisame
rasenproc
09-09-2008, 01:45 PM
well kakashi dying...not yet
all i want to see is the rematch for guy and kisame
guy would get pummled. kisame was only a 30% copy last time and he almost took down guy and his team. if they do fight guy will need all 8 gates to hav a chance so either way he dies
-Erios-
09-09-2008, 01:47 PM
exactly! thats why i want to see guy fight so that he opens all 8 gates and then dies in a heroic way :)
papfles
09-09-2008, 03:23 PM
Pirunravel's spoiler seems quite good, although if the raikage WAS there, he'd f up sasuke and the team seeing how they are totally exhausted / nearly wasted...
And with those two mentioning that they had to go warn the raikage, it would be a tad too soon for them to be there (unless this chapter is "several hours later")
Dream Catcher
09-09-2008, 03:25 PM
Hmmm, interesting post Pir. I have a feeling that one, or a variation of that one, will turn out to be true. It follows the pattern of the last few chapters and pretty much shows us what we have been set up for.
For some odd reason, I imagine the Raikage being dressed as Shusui from Bleach ! hahaha
I wonder what kind of fighting method that black toad will use, probably genjutsu, since Fuku said the toad uses a method naruto is not familiar with (Hmm but Naruto did have some prior exposure to genjutsu so I dunno)
Either way, interesting spoiler !! Thanks
@ Pap : Why would he f' them up?
1) he just showed up
2) the ninjas CLEARLY said they didn't want to fight which leads us to believe that the Raikage hates fighting or is a pacifist.
3) The fight didn't even start, and why fight those two when he has to protect his bro first thing :p
Also, this is manga, the Raikage could appear anytime he wants :p And it's not that unbelievable that the two ninjas could have speed walked and notified the Raikage while Sasuke was burning the 8 tails. It shouldn't take the Raikage a couple of hours to get the news, in my opinion, and they might have aprehended them a bit later, after the 8 tails went down.
PS : Raikage is big black guy !!
papfles
09-09-2008, 03:31 PM
@ Pap : Why would he f' them up?
1) he just showed up
2) the ninjas CLEARLY said they didn't want to fight which leads us to believe that the Raikage hates fighting or is a pacifist.
3) The fight didn't even start, and why fight those two when he has to protect his bro first thing
Also, this is manga, the Raikage could appear anytime he wants And it's not that unbelievable that the two ninjas could have speed walked and notified the Raikage while Sasuke was burning the 8 tails. It shouldn't take the Raikage a couple of hours to get the news, in my opinion, and they might have aprehended them a bit later, after the 8 tails went down.
PS : Raikage is big black guy !!
1) seeing how they've barely gotten the 8-tails and are probably still recovering from that fight, a fight between the raikage and this team should be over in an instant.
2) I know, but I was merely stating that if there was a fight, it should be over in a second.
3) Would be cool if he took his brother out of there with a "you'll go down" and then came back a while later with his brother all patched up, ready to kick ass >_>
true about him being able to appear whenever he needs to.
Dream Catcher
09-09-2008, 03:34 PM
Hmm, well the only problem I see with your logic, or ANY logic regarding Naruto, for that matter, is that Sasuke is jesus O_O He can do anything and has a kid who turns into a monster.
I don't even want to think about a Hawk vs. 8tails and bro fight because LOGICALLY, the wayne brothers should fuck up hawk in a matter of seconds... but like I said *points above* :car:
ANBUMike
09-09-2008, 03:51 PM
The only problem I have with Pir's spoiler is the title of the chapter.
Chapter 416: Departure into darkness
Wasn't it supposed to be, "the legend of the gutsy ninja?":confused:
rasenproc
09-09-2008, 05:15 PM
arent the names of the chapters often different than wat is said at the end of the chapter?
Dream Catcher
09-09-2008, 05:16 PM
I think they do differ once or twice. Can't blame the mangaka for changing the title mid-week :p
wind33
09-09-2008, 06:38 PM
I think that the spoiler has some merrit but the thing that I have a question about is if the book that Pa frog gave Naruto is for the final leg of his training why give it to him now then say "read it" then tell him that he can't read it? Besides that i just want the Raikage to wipe the floor with team Hawk because I think they won that battle and didn't deserve to. The Raikage being a brother is really exciting to me as well...I mean how many brothers you know do ninja stuff...very cool!!!
its just to soon for the raikage to show up....... FAKE
-Erios-
09-09-2008, 07:19 PM
i dont know i kinda liked that last spoiler but i doubt its possible i mean its gotta be narutos turn to appear in his own manga
rasenproc
09-10-2008, 12:52 AM
i dont know i kinda liked that last spoiler but i doubt its possible i mean its gotta be narutos turn to appear in his own manga
im thinkin we get naruto for this entire chapter and most of the next unless he plans to just glance at the book. (of course there will hav to b atleast one scene with saskue...)
YellowFlash23
09-10-2008, 02:24 AM
yes i agree with rasenproc
this will prolly be more naruto based chapter
also i agree it is just a little too early for the raikage to get involved
soon though prolly before hawk can escape the country but id bet that madara comes and saves hawk
,,,^.^,,,
09-10-2008, 02:37 AM
...... say wasnt naruto's mom a former ninja of this country???
http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/367/11/
the lost shinobi
09-10-2008, 03:39 AM
no Kushina's country was disbanded after the war. We're in the cloud country atm with Sasuke and co
Murdock
09-10-2008, 07:49 AM
the firsst one looks good and real ... the one with Kakashi's sharingan seems pretty interesting but probably fake ... but it would be interesting twist
Csdabest
09-10-2008, 08:43 AM
Super Mangekyo Sharringan Kirn Mach 3 Chidori ftw
Im just happy the world hasnt forgotten about spoilers. I was in fact getting worried that world was ending
Confirmed spoiler pics. I would post text that goes with it. but its not translated yet.
takadanama
09-10-2008, 09:28 AM
wooow finally get to see raikage hohoho.... he looks pretty strong... >_< but wtf..... rapper family XD
Hyugumaki
09-10-2008, 10:29 AM
I find the new spin with Sauske vowing to kill all of Konoha and only "performed" his vow to kill the upper 3 in front of Snawk rather interesting. I wonder if this is a flashback or after he gets back from capturing the 8-tails. I would find it more interesting if it is a flashback because of his "thoughts" before he used Ama. If it's after, than his thoughts of Kakashi, Naruto and Sakura don't make sense. He's obviously making a point by showing his MS. Maybe he will take Itachi's eyes, but probably not.
Maybe he's also telling Madara what he wants to hear.
I'm curious to find out what Raikage has planned, if he's going to target Konoha for his anger or if he's going to pursue Akatskui(spling)
wind33
09-10-2008, 10:56 AM
I don't think that Sauske has any intention on killing all of Kanoha, 1st of all if he does attempt to do that he'll just be another version of Orochimaru...We've seen that and it would be to cleche' for him to follow in Oro's foot steps...One of the themes of the story is surpassing your sensei...Jariaya failed in saving Oro so Naruto has to save Sauske it's just wouldn't be in line with the story if he didn't ...
Hyugumaki
09-10-2008, 11:13 AM
The thing is, we've seen Kishi transform all the characters in Naruto's age group as followers of their parents, ones that haven't gone beyond what their parents have done. He's blatently shown Naruto, Sauske and Sakura as being young versions of Jiraiya, Oro, and Tsunade. So far, we haven't seen any reason for them to be beyond those three. Sauske's not truly bent on knowing every jutsu and expanding his life, but he does want revenge on Konoha and will attack it at any way possible. Only thing different for Naruto from Jiraiya is that he's got the Kyuubi and raw talent that's let him advanced more quickly than Jiraiya (oh and the FRS) but he hasn't truly gone beyond Jiraiya. If anyone is a true copy/paste it'd be Sakura and Tsunade. It was hinted that Sakura had the potential for Genjutsu but we haven't seen her elaborate on it.
For all purposes, these characters have all been following in their predicesors footsteps and haven't really taken steps off those all ready beaten trails.
I agree, we need to see Naruto actually save Sauske and bring him back to his senses. We'll see that "Hidden Power" Itachi gave Naruto as a way of accomplishing this rather than destroying Sauske (Itachi didn't want to kill sauske, no matter what). Naruto, now reading Jiraiya's book, will probably start doing things that Jiraiya didn't do to become better than Jiraiya and maybe, just maybe, he'll learn about his Father and start looking at that as a source of his training (did it to make the FRS, and he didn't realize that the 4th is his father).
Anyway, I'm almost ready to see what happens with Kakashi and Sakura.
rasenproc
09-10-2008, 11:28 AM
so much for my prediction about naruto bein the focus this week. ha... wat the hell was u thinking
PirUnravel
09-10-2008, 11:52 AM
So much for the spoiler about Naruto being pitted against a frog for battle experience. (sigh) That woulda been badass.
And hmmm... it sounds like Sasuke is bullshitting Tobi as usual... but I wonder what his intentions are. He tells HAWK that he is using Madara... but for what again? I forgot... X_X
Erotique
09-10-2008, 01:24 PM
And hmmm... it sounds like Sasuke is bullshitting Tobi as usual... but I wonder what his intentions are. He tells HAWK that he is using Madara... but for what again? I forgot... X_X
Madara's subtlety is 80+ years in the making. If anyone is using anyone, I seriously doubt that Madara will be someone else's pawn...
But then again, Oro's downfall have proven this wrong before, so let's see how the table will turn...
,,,^.^,,,
09-10-2008, 01:47 PM
Madara's subtlety is 80+ years in the making. If anyone is using anyone, I seriously doubt that Madara will be someone else's pawn...
But then again, Oro's downfall have proven this wrong before, so let's see how the table will turn...
yeah like you said but THEN AGAIN that could also be his greatest weakness. if he's convinced of having fooled sasuke and has not then he could have a serious turnaround happen. i wonder what the hell zetsu is doing. id love to see him fight some time soon. i mean is his only talent digging and eating people? is he a mole??
wind33
09-10-2008, 02:02 PM
The thing is, we've seen Kishi transform all the characters in Naruto's age group as followers of their parents, ones that haven't gone beyond what their parents have done. He's blatently shown Naruto, Sauske and Sakura as being young versions of Jiraiya, Oro, and Tsunade. So far, we haven't seen any reason for them to be beyond those three. Sauske's not truly bent on knowing every jutsu and expanding his life, but he does want revenge on Konoha and will attack it at any way possible. Only thing different for Naruto from Jiraiya is that he's got the Kyuubi and raw talent that's let him advanced more quickly than Jiraiya (oh and the FRS) but he hasn't truly gone beyond Jiraiya. If anyone is a true copy/paste it'd be Sakura and Tsunade. It was hinted that Sakura had the potential for Genjutsu but we haven't seen her elaborate on it.
For all purposes, these characters have all been following in their predicesors footsteps and haven't really taken steps off those all ready beaten trails.
I agree, we need to see Naruto actually save Sauske and bring him back to his senses. We'll see that "Hidden Power" Itachi gave Naruto as a way of accomplishing this rather than destroying Sauske (Itachi didn't want to kill sauske, no matter what). Naruto, now reading Jiraiya's book, will probably start doing things that Jiraiya didn't do to become better than Jiraiya and maybe, just maybe, he'll learn about his Father and start looking at that as a source of his training (did it to make the FRS, and he didn't realize that the 4th is his father).
Anyway, I'm almost ready to see what happens with Kakashi and Sakura.But you have to remember what Kakashi said "The youger generation will always surpass the older"..So inevitably it will happen...We just have to keep in mind that they are still just Chunin shinobi with the exception of Neji...As they progress in skill and training they will develope the neccesary skills to surpass their parents/sensei...IMO it would be a travisty to the story line if Naruto didn't surpass both Jariaya and Minato...He's destined to be the greatest Hokage that ever was...Now i'm not sure if Kishi's meaning of that is just the most humble and Just hokage or if he means "greatest" as in talent and skills...i'm hoping for both...
SpikeUchiha
09-10-2008, 02:13 PM
i think after naruto comes back he'll be at sage level..i think kakashi said that he surpassed him...and with jmans jutsu naruto will be a power house...its still funny that both sasuke and naruto are still genin but with some s-class jutsus..
PirUnravel
09-10-2008, 02:19 PM
i wonder what the hell zetsu is doing. id love to see him fight some time soon. i mean is his only talent digging and eating people? is he a mole??
I think Zetsu is Pain... or has a physical link to him.
But you have to remember what Kakashi said "The youger generation will always surpass the older"..So inevitably it will happen...
So Konohamaru and his dork squad will one day surpass Team 7? Hmmmm... <.<
i think after naruto comes back he'll be at sage level..
Wouldn't that be badass if Naruto happened to finish up (I know the timeline makes it impossible but...) his sage training and is teleported (or whatever Pa Toad did) back to Konoha just in time to see Pain leaving... having just killed off much of Konoha? @_@''''
ANBUMike
09-10-2008, 02:25 PM
So Konohamaru and his dork squad will one day surpass Team 7? Hmmmm... <.<
I think that they're same generation. Naruto's kids(if he were to have any) and the current young shinobi's children are the next generation.
EDIT>>>Wait, asuma's kid is next generation shinobi...Any kid born right now would be next gen.
.................................................. .................................................. .....
Once again, Naruto is shoved aside...*sigh*...Thought we were going to get some good stuff...
Hyugumaki
09-10-2008, 02:27 PM
But you have to remember what Kakashi said "The youger generation will always surpass the older"..So inevitably it will happen...We just have to keep in mind that they are still just Chunin shinobi with the exception of Neji...As they progress in skill and training they will develope the neccesary skills to surpass their parents/sensei...IMO it would be a travisty to the story line if Naruto didn't surpass both Jariaya and Minato...He's destined to be the greatest Hokage that ever was...Now i'm not sure if Kishi's meaning of that is just the most humble and Just hokage or if he means "greatest" as in talent and skills...i'm hoping for both...
My question is, why do they have to be imitations of their parents to be strong or show they can surpass them? I suppose that Kishi has to have some type of way to measure their superiority to the previous generation ... by showing how they're better versions of their parents/mentors.
I love the series, but looking at it like that makes it kind of lame.
The truly invintive characters are the ones that we didn't get to see their parents. In other words, seeing the Sand nin work they way they did without knowing their parents/mentors.
Erotique
09-10-2008, 02:33 PM
When Kakashi announced that "younger generation beating the older fart generation and etc. etc." to Kakuzu, you have to remember that Kakuzu was in 6 vs 1 handicap match. Sure, Naruto did that one-hit-wonder FRS trick and ended it; however, Kakuzu had quite a bit of arsenals at his hands. If it wasn't for Kakashi and Yamato's interference, Naruto would've been toast when he made his first mistake on FRS.
I don't know why people are treating Kakashi's quote like a biblical phrase. Sure, it makes sense in a way, but to some others, it just shouldn't be applied at all...
rasenproc
09-10-2008, 02:47 PM
the reason all the kids act like their parents is because of the system kishi has set up. they all come from clans and each clan has been shown to hav their way of fighting so it makes sense that as members of their clans they would fight like them
Herumor
09-10-2008, 03:06 PM
More Saus-gay? Fucking christ >.<
Itachi_the_Feared_One
09-10-2008, 03:17 PM
Madara's subtlety is 80+ years in the making. If anyone is using anyone, I seriously doubt that Madara will be someone else's pawn...
But then again, Oro's downfall have proven this wrong before, so let's see how the table will turn...
yeah but this one (madara) is the reall deal, if anything he got sasuke exactly where he wanted to.
i think after naruto comes back he'll be at sage level..i think kakashi said that he surpassed him...and with jmans jutsu naruto will be a power house...its still funny that both sasuke and naruto are still genin but with some s-class jutsus..
technically Sasuke is a chunnin, remember in the chunnin exam when gaara passed out and escaped the arena with his siblings, the referee (forgot his name was it hayate???) ordered sasuke to follow the suna shinobi, and he told him the abilities he demonstrated during his fight were chunin level.
More Saus-gay? Fucking christ >.<
nobody can beat kishi's love for Sasuke,
Murdock
09-10-2008, 03:23 PM
it wasn't hayate .. he died in fight with that sand jounin ... i don't remember his name either ...
and what Sasuke? i am wondering wheter he is changing his mind about attacking Konoha or why else is Kishi showing this to us now?
SpikeUchiha
09-10-2008, 03:56 PM
its seems like it a double bluff...imo i think sasuke is still good someone that cares for comrades is a good guy in my book.he even told naruto to never let his dream die..
Hyugumaki
09-10-2008, 04:15 PM
We still don't know the context in which Saksue's words are told to Madara. Is it a flashback, or is it after he captures the 8-tails?
I have two thoughts. Firstly, now that Madara has the 8tails, he's wanting to find out Sauske's true motives and how he'll use the 8tails, and thusly Madara can use Sauske. I think he was planning on trying to convince Sauske to hate all of Konoha, but now that he knows he all ready does, he's happy and it won't take any effort or lies.
Secondly, Sauske is rethinking what he told Madara because of his sudden rememberance of Naruto, Sakura and Kakashi. They most likely had Senju heritage, and he'd have to kill them, but he's conflicted because they were his good friends. They protected him with teamwork and such much like how Snawk did. Does he now have the resolve he did, and does he want Madara to keep thinking it.
I don't think I've seen spoilers to distinguish between the two scenarios, but I'll believe either idea when I read the whole chapter on Friday.
Murdock
09-10-2008, 04:23 PM
Secondly, Sauske is rethinking what he told Madara because of his sudden rememberance of Naruto, Sakura and Kakashi. They most likely had Senju heritage, and he'd have to kill them, but he's conflicted because they were his good friends. They protected him with teamwork and such much like how Snawk did. Does he now have the resolve he did, and does he want Madara to keep thinking it.
that's what i think too ... he is re-thinking his past ... but only Kishi show us the truth
i really miss when those chapters came out on wednesday/thursady... anyways naruto crying!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! hopefully they can focus on that <- sarcasm. Kishi wont focus on that.
rasenproc
09-10-2008, 05:03 PM
i hav one problem with the confirmed... there is no mention of raikage and the pictures clearly show him
@GSX... that is one of the single funniest cartoons ive ever seen
papfles
09-10-2008, 05:07 PM
it wasn't hayate .. he died in fight with that sand jounin ... i don't remember his name either ...
Genma Shiranui
Konoha Jounin
Murdock
09-10-2008, 05:07 PM
spoilers usually doesn't contain everything ... it's nearly impossilbe and it's good since you're surprised a little ... and you're wrong there was mention about him being shocked ...
rasenproc
09-10-2008, 05:10 PM
spoilers usually doesn't contain everything ... it's nearly impossilbe and it's good since you're surprised a little ... and you're wrong there was mention about him being shocked ...
ya i just looked back and saw that. i wish the spoiler about minato being mentioned was real, but even in that there is no mention of the fact that he was yondaime hokage. it really is time for naruto to be told. im also thinkin that the madara saskue death to villagers discussion was is a flashback
-Erios-
09-10-2008, 05:44 PM
OMG!!! NO more sasuke again seriously why!!
Itachi_the_Feared_One
09-10-2008, 05:47 PM
verification: pending (likely fake)
source: PvN
chapter 416: the legend of a gutsy ninja
naruto: pa toad did prevy sage wirte this about me?
Pa toad: no naruto...this was his first book written a little before you was born and your parnets....
naruto(eyes lit up): you knew my parnets?
pa toad: yes naruto well one of them actually i met your mother once but i knew your father better..
naruto: can you tell me who they are!? and what happened to them!?
pa toad: naruto turn to the end of the book and apply some charka to the hlast ten pages
naruto: yes sir!
naruto: okay i see a list of justu..and to Minto from jiraya
Pa toad: thats your father name naruto it s Minto Naziame and he named you after the character in Little Jirayas book
Naruto: what happened to him and what about my mother!?
Gamakichi: Pa why dont you only tell him if he can master all the justsu listed..should i get the scrools?
Pa toad: great idea..thats the deal naruto
Naruto: got it..ill master them in no time
....scence changes to saskue and group.....
Sasuke: Karin are you okay?
Karin(yes i have sasuke thinking about me): yes ill be fine saskue
Jugo:the village exit is coming right up
...lighting strikes the ground...
Unknown figure: Akatski drop my brother and ill stare your lives...
Village Shinobi: drop him look you in not condistion to fight us all
Saskue: guys wat do you want to do?
Suigetsu: leave them to me ill kill them
Karin: your in no shape to fight
Jugo: i say we leave ...for now
Sasuke: okay everyone gather around me..
...killabee is droped as saskue and group flee village...
scence changes to konoha and rain begins to fall...
Tsunade: i dont like this tell ever one to go into high alert and be prepaired for anything
Tsunade: to frog tell Fuskage to keep naruto there until directed other wise...if i should fall ill leave instruction for after words
frog: understood *then vanishies*
next chapter.."a forbidden truth"
hahaha lol at spoiler number 8, posted by uchiha123, especially the end, :
Tsunade: to frog tell Fuskage to keep naruto there until directed other wise...if i should fall ill leave instruction for after words:biggrin1:
frog: understood *then vanishies*
the guy who wrote that shit .....was either stoned, or just incredibly stupid......:biggrin1:
Gman47
09-10-2008, 06:04 PM
Well a few things here:
First of all I'm bummed out that we're hardly seeing anythin if anythin at all about Naruto and the book this week. But what could we do ya kno, Kishi said he'd focus on Sasuke alot this year, then some Kakashi and Sakura before goin back to mainly Naruto, and that's what he appears to be gradually doing still.
Like someone said, sometimes spoilers don't contain everything, or the translations are off, but with this spoiler, with the flashback of Sasuke saying he wants revenge on the whole village now. Well he first did tell hawk he wanted to take revenge on the 3 higher ups and thats it, after that we find out that he is just using Akatsuki when he is about to fight 8 tails (http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/411/05/), well considering that being said after what Sauske says in this new flashback, then there is still a strong possibility that Sasuke is just deceiving Madara probably to accomplish something bigger and still plans to just attack the elders if anyone.
Buttttttttttttt on the other hand if Sasuke is still actin like an emo faggot hellbent on revenge against little innocent kids and villagers of Konoha then he's one crazy a$$ mofo, if he thinks he can destroy Konoha by himself then man oh man does he have a big arse kicking coming, I think he needs a good ass kicking by some of his old friends to realize that he's being immature and retarded and make him change for the better. Also if he really does attack Konoha and Hawk has no idea of his intentions to kill everyone (if those are his intentions) then they might not agree with killing everyone and turn on him right there cause he'd be crazy, plus Pain and Konan are already on their way to Konoha to get Naruto, perhaps if Sasuke really does go through with this then he'll end up crossing paths with Pain, who will then start talking about him bein the leader of akatsuki and his whole god complex, and how he's there to capture Naruto, now that would be interesting as hell, I can see Sasuke being confused as fuck, and how the meeting of Pain could completely ruin or change his plans, and maybe he would even fight Pain, considerin he still thinks of Naruto as a brother IMO, and doesn't want Pain to capture him.
:D
mandelak
09-10-2008, 10:52 PM
sasuke i guess is a punk bitch. he is no diff to the higher ups then. killing innocent people for something they done. he should just kill them and let that be. the first had nothing to do with it anyway lol unless the higher ups are part of the senju clan.
anyway looks like its going to be a good chapter
LivithiuM
09-10-2008, 11:08 PM
I don't think kishi will make his favorite sasuke be crazy or his ass being kicked
I dont know if it will happen or not but i think sasuke will head towards konoha intending to kill everybody but he will find pein already there and helping him in his task and at this time he will chane and try to protect eberybody and be a hero >> btw i am not saasuke fan
but this is kishi's way to make everybody love sasuke and i believe it will happen
the only thing i dont get until now is why sasuky helped akatsuki to get the 8 tailed?
ANBUMike
09-10-2008, 11:14 PM
i think sasuke will head towards konoha intending to kill everybody but he will find pein already there and helping him in his task and at this time he will chane and try to protect eberybody and be a hero
There's no way kishi will let sasuke live int he end if he's going to draw sasuke as a hero.
The hero who is good then turns bad, and has a change of heart at the end always dies. He'll let sasuke go out on top if he has one of those "no naruto!!! I won't let you die!" moments that we've seen in movies.
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I hope we get to see the Raikage in action in chapter 417. Madara or Kisame will surely fight him.(he looks just like sarutobi, too)
mandelak
09-10-2008, 11:15 PM
his ass will get kicked when naruto comes and kicks his ass. the first attack will be pein. second attack might be all of them including pein and sasuke. and then they will see sasuke is leading the attack and wont forgive him no more. naruto will try to reason with him and all but then will know its hopeless and kick his ass.
if its true about him killing all senju. lets just say minato is a distant member of senju like his great grandfather was senju or maybe was even shodaime. maybe someone got married to a namikaze and then had minato. if naruto has senju in him sasuke will be after naruto and will try to kill him.
it would just give a more crazier reason for him to want to kill naruto this time. unless he is still leading madara on with the whole ill kill them all shit.
RamenRasengan
09-10-2008, 11:38 PM
This is excellent. I can only guess at what kind of ass kicking naruto would give sasuke if he's after all senju. I don't buy the whole sasuke is tricking madara thing. If anyone were to do the tricking it would be madara (maybe he already has. I mean we only got one side of the story so far). I think he's just showing his true colours. Now naruto can give up on sasuke and beat the shit out of him. Or not give up on him (idiot) and batter him anyway
Csdabest
09-11-2008, 02:07 AM
Kishi is trying to make everyone hate Sasuke. And at the last moment. BAM!!!!!!!. Sasuke flips the entire universe on us. Thats why Im standing upside down so when it happens. I'll be allllll right. From the way Cry Hawk translated it on MH. He said it the way that it was written. Sasuke was being very out of character and was supposedly having a sarcastic tone to it all. Sasuke is just trying to gain madara's trust. It would be foolish to go against Madara. Seeing him Get sliced in to and sanding back up. Phasing out Amaterasu. And then taking a blow from Suigetsu's sword with just one arm. And not even flinching.And we have seen how sasuke been keeping note on him. Right now it seems like a game of who can get who's trust first to betray it. and from Sasuke's point of view. Sasuke is winning.
FbiHitman
09-11-2008, 02:53 AM
We need more naruto development. im tired of sasuke GOD with his stupid bloodlinelazy luck. oh well.
Tazuwukei
09-11-2008, 03:07 AM
Aww.. Naruto crying..
chapters 2+ hours later than usual too..
Aww.. x2
-Erios-
09-11-2008, 03:18 AM
hmmm.....poor naruto misses pervy sage already......well I doubt the book will talk about Naruto's parents.
EnvoyofDestiny
09-11-2008, 07:56 AM
I totallly cried when i saw naruto was in the spoiler. that was really touching for some reason.
CheerUp
09-11-2008, 07:57 AM
Don't think Sasuke will drop the man. He needs Akatsuki to help him take on the elders. They won't do that if he appears weak.
Seraphiel
09-11-2008, 08:03 AM
I totallly cried when i saw naruto was in the spoiler. that was really touching for some reason.
homo moment?
Well Kishi did a great job with the new Sasuke,I wanna slaughter every1 is epic.
That totally puts Narutos:I wanna save every1 and become hokage to shame.
Even if its just an act I luv it.
SpikeUchiha
09-11-2008, 08:27 AM
smoke nin? that must be in the book narutos reading
dharq
09-11-2008, 08:29 AM
I think Sasuke's going to charge into Konoha, and it will be he, not Pein, who will kill Tsunade in front of Kakashi and Sakura. She is Senju, after all. And, that would cause Sakura to grow up pretty fast, no?
wind33
09-11-2008, 08:37 AM
I can't even tell you how sick i am of hearing that Sauske's gonna destroy Kanoha...It's not going to happen people...Naruto and Sauske will be best friends again and Sauske will inherit Itachi's will and He and Naruto will probably defeat Madara in the end...Now I know that they will fight again to see who's gotten strongest and of course Naruto will kick Sauske's ass, but they will be friends after... And concerning the 7th spoiler...I want to believe that's the real one but it sounds to good to be true...but it's Genius to tell Naruto to put chakra into the last few pages to reveal his dads jutsu...I absolutely love it...I just wish Kishi would shift the focus to anything except Sauske...I mean we've had enough!!!
blind
09-11-2008, 09:15 AM
Well Kishi did a great job with the new Sasuke,I wanna slaughter every1 is epic.
That totally puts Narutos:I wanna save every1 and become hokage to shame.
Not if Naruto actually going through with his goal, while Sasuke's would be stopped by...well, Naruto.
I think Sasuke's going to charge into Konoha, and it will be he, not Pein, who will kill Tsunade in front of Kakashi and Sakura. She is Senju, after all. And, that would cause Sakura to grow up pretty fast, no?
Then Sasuke better heal in a hurry, because Pein is already heading off to Konoha with his six bodies. If he doesn't go off killing people, then that's a possibility.
EnvoyofDestiny
09-11-2008, 09:28 AM
For some reason i couldn't put that image, in the spoiler section, in my post. there is a question mark on the one guys head protector instead of a village.
Murdock
09-11-2008, 10:15 AM
Kinda funny since the man on the picture looks like older Naruto :D
Tazuwukei
09-11-2008, 10:25 AM
Kinda funny since the man on the picture looks like older Naruto :D
lol hes holding smokebombs? sounds like magyver to me..
Hyugumaki
09-11-2008, 10:50 AM
wow, that's awesome, I'm so happy to know that it was, of all people, a MADARA FLASHBACK!!!! Thank god! I think Sauske's going to start re-thinking his words from earlier.
It seems as though Naruto is putting himself into the story, making it seem as it's himself (when it's actually Jiraiya) probably because he used the name Naruto.
W00T
takadanama
09-11-2008, 10:53 AM
OMGGGG very early release.... Chinese scans is outttt~~~
wind33
09-11-2008, 11:08 AM
Looking at the chinese scans I think that i'm going to love this chapter...I love when Naruto flashes back to Jariaya and himself when they were traveling...maybe we'll get to see "that jutsu" that they have been talking about...I'm sure it 's not FRS because that was created after Naruto found out that the 4th Hokage left the rasengan unfinished...So "that jutsu" has to be something else...Maybe it has something to do with using 9tails or maybe it's one of the jutsu that Minato left that only Jariaya was privilage to...But now that Naruto is mastering sage arts he can perform the jutsu now.../
And I really believe that Sauske is rethinking his whole take on distroying Kanoha...I think that he diffinately going to see through the deception that Madara is telling him...I've always felt that Sauske is really a weak minded person, he changes his mind based on what ever someone tells him...He needs to start making up his own mind and stop depending on others to lead him in the right direction...He still seems like a confused little boy to me.
EnvoyofDestiny
09-11-2008, 11:10 AM
i wish i knew mandarin, so i could read that jman naruto convo in the chinese scans. So touching :Cry:
takadanama
09-11-2008, 11:19 AM
If only Blind is here... he will be able to translate it immediately... WAKE UP BLINDDDD
wind33
09-11-2008, 11:21 AM
Did anyone else notice that in the scans that Naruto's eyes don't have those circles around them anymore? Maybe it only happens when he's trying to draw Natural Energy to himself...I hope that he won't have to change at all and completely master the sage arts...I have another thought...Has Naruto surpassed Jariaya in Sage Arts already? I ask because Jariaya was turned into a toad way more than Naruto is when he is in Sage Mode...Just a thought...
rasenproc
09-11-2008, 11:28 AM
as of now he hasnt cause he still needs the oil
lol, everyone knows that naruto gets those circles when he's drawing nat chakra :S
this chapter is kinda large, a lot of talking thats nice. Where the fuck is blind, he used to be so nice with us and translate chapters earlier for us, well that was about a few years. he may now be loosing his skills. Anyway i know you're always waching so come out come out, wherever u are.
sasuke123uchiha
09-11-2008, 11:44 AM
is naruto crying in that pic?
EnvoyofDestiny
09-11-2008, 12:01 PM
is naruto crying in that pic?
yes sir he is crying. In a couple panels.
rasenproc
09-11-2008, 12:05 PM
i think hes just really into the story and its makin him cry at first but then when he sees j man's pic that makes him cry a little too
it must be like someone said, erosennin's life may have been like the one naruto have lol.
anycase, i would like to see about narutos flashback, what happened? i think jiraiya was offering the book to him?
rasenproc
09-11-2008, 12:13 PM
it maybe the book naruto gave to kakashi. he said jaraiya had him read it and the panal with naruto sittin bored is just about how id imagine him feelin about it
EnvoyofDestiny
09-11-2008, 12:15 PM
it maybe the book naruto gave to kakashi. he said jaraiya had him read it and the panal with naruto sittin bored is just about how id imagine him feelin about it
the book naruto gave kakashi was a ich ichi book. And naruto isnt bored hes crying. the titles are different and naruto acted like he had never seen it before. Plus the chinese scans have a lot of pics of him crying and imagining the story
rasenproc
09-11-2008, 12:17 PM
the book naruto gave kakashi was a ich ichi book. And naruto isnt bored hes crying. the titles are different and naruto acted like he had never seen it before. Plus the chinese scans have a lot of pics of him crying and imagining the story
yes i know that. and the book jaraiya gives naruto in the flashback was one he just finished cause we see him writing it which would make it the new ich ichi book which if u've seen the chinese scan makes naruto bored. i think he is just comparing jaraiya's writing between that and the book here that is makin him cry
ANBUMike
09-11-2008, 01:01 PM
We see an older Naruto in EnvoyofDestiny's spoiler. He's in a flap jacket...A hint at future Naruto?
That was pretty cool, and he seems to be getting into the story...A whole chapter about him imagining himself as the main character in the book wouldn't have been too bad.
-Erios-
09-11-2008, 01:07 PM
hmmmmm...maybe its a page from the book ...i doubt there is a timeskip already
blind
09-11-2008, 01:15 PM
It's from the book...he was fighting a shinobi with a question mark as a village.
PirUnravel
09-11-2008, 01:25 PM
Wow @ Blind's translation of Sasuke saying:
"Say that I'm being too emotional and making rash decisions, I don't really care."
O.o'
Has Kishi taken notice of everyone calling Sasuke "EMO" and now he has Sasuke speaking to us? LOLZZZERZZZZ!!!!!
p.s. - it looks like the Raikage is upset at Akatsuki and not Konoha. ^_^
-Erios-
09-11-2008, 01:32 PM
Thanks blind for the translation!!
so we see Sasuke accept that he is emo....cool
and well raikage is pissed....let the war begin!!
ANBUMike
09-11-2008, 01:33 PM
hmmmmm...maybe its a page from the book ...i doubt there is a timeskip already
Yeah, it's from the book. He's imagining himself as the main character.
papfles
09-11-2008, 01:34 PM
The raikage seems a bit....rash.
Isn't a kage supposed to have the village's best interests in mind? He can't just rush out to avenge his brother like that, can he? (or shouldn't)
-Erios-
09-11-2008, 01:34 PM
so i have a question is this the same book that he showed minato???? or a different one??
sasuke123uchiha
09-11-2008, 01:37 PM
i really hope sasuke attacks konoha along with the remaining of akatsuki
(damn sasuke is emoT_T)
and it looks like the same since it talks about naruto
ANBUMike
09-11-2008, 01:40 PM
so i have a question is this the same book that he showed minato???? or a different one??
It's the same one...
The raikage seems a bit....rash.
Isn't a kage supposed to have the village's best interests in mind? He can't just rush out to avenge his brother like that, can he? (or shouldn't)
Well, they took a jinchuuriki after all. I think it's in the best interest of the village if they try and stop akatsuki to get him back.
boszz
09-11-2008, 01:41 PM
The raikage seems a bit....rash.
Isn't a kage supposed to have the village's best interests in mind? He can't just rush out to avenge his brother like that, can he? (or shouldn't)
well Kages are human too so its not suprise that he want to protect his little brother not to say one of the most powerfull ninja in his village (they lost 2nd beast so they cant afford to lose 8 tails it would make them too weak?)
-Erios-
09-11-2008, 01:43 PM
so if its the same book then he has probably learned that j-man is his god-parent right ??
sasuke123uchiha
09-11-2008, 01:44 PM
do u think he finshed the book already?
ANBUMike
09-11-2008, 01:45 PM
so if its the same book then he has probably learned that j-man is his god-parent right ??
ummmm...I don't know...He could think that it's coincidence, I mean, I would. I think that he will only find that out when he learns about his parents.
PirUnravel
09-11-2008, 01:49 PM
Ya I definitely hope Sasuke invades Konoha. Kishi has the capability of making this manga sooooo fking badass if he wants to.
Sasuke arrives at Konoha as it's in the midst of complete destruction and death at the hands of Pain.
Sasuke sees Pain tearing Kakashi to shreds... Kakashi sees Sasuke in the background approaching Pain just before he dies... and tells Sasuke something that makes him remember how it used to be when he was with Team 7.
[Insert more badass plotlines that probably won't be fulfilled]
lolz
-Erios-
09-11-2008, 01:55 PM
ummmm...I don't know...He could think that it's coincidence, I mean, I would. I think that he will only find that out when he learns about his parents.
hmmm.....Probably...hopefully naruto is gonna be anxious to know who his parents are now??
Afrokage
09-11-2008, 02:09 PM
I just have a strong feeling that everything Sasuke just fed Madara is bullshit. It was shown before the 8 tails fight that he reminded Team Hawk that they were just using Madara. Also before he released Amaterasu he thought about Team 7 to give him will. If Sasuke is going to kill anyone in Konoha then I think it'll only be the elders, otherwise he's gonna play the villian role till he gets to Konoha then switch sides at which point Madara is going to reveal that he already saw through Sasuke from the beginning and just wanted to see if he was really going to be foolish enough to turn on him.
Honestly...it would not be smart for Sasuke to tell Madara straight out that he's gonna protect Itachi's ideals therefore making him an enemy to Madara/Akatsuki from the start as opposed to just feeding him that bullshit explanation he just gave him about his ideals to buy himself some time.
Murdock
09-11-2008, 02:11 PM
It's the same one...
but with different cover and name of the book ....
ANBUMike
09-11-2008, 02:19 PM
but with different cover and name of the book ....
Correct. Kishi messed up.
PirUnravel
09-11-2008, 02:57 PM
Correct. Kishi messed up.
LMFAO @ everyone always so desperately trying to say that Kishi has messed up. How many *proven* instances do we have that show he messed up? Seriously... even if this does end up being a mess-up (which it probably isn't... books have multiple covers ALL THE TIME for MANY different reasons), WHO CARES?
A HUMAN!!! And humans make mistakes occasionally!
blind
09-11-2008, 03:03 PM
so if its the same book then he has probably learned that j-man is his god-parent right ??
No, the fact that Jiraiya is his godfather is due to Minato's decision, not because of what's in the book. If naming your kid means you're his godfather, then I guess that's true.
Murdock
09-11-2008, 03:10 PM
LMFAO @ everyone always so desperately trying to say that Kishi has messed up. How many *proven* instances do we have that show he messed up? Seriously... even if this does end up being a mess-up (which it probably isn't... books have multiple covers ALL THE TIME for MANY different reasons), WHO CARES?
well Eragon and Eldest had same covers in my country ... same with HP same with others thousands of book i have at my spot ... so i don't know about that if it's all the tima as you say
-Erios-
09-11-2008, 03:14 PM
No, the fact that Jiraiya is his godfather is due to Minato's decision, not because of what's in the book. If naming your kid means you're his godfather, then I guess that's true.
but Naruto is gonna want to know why the ninja in the book has the same name as he does...so he is gonna want some answers
blind
09-11-2008, 03:24 PM
but Naruto is gonna want to know why the ninja in the book has the same name as he does...so he is gonna want some answers
Yes, but it doesn't mean he's going to learn Jiraiya is godfather just from reading the book. He'll probably find out when he gets back to Konoha, I doubt the toads would know something like that, maybe as an end note to the series, who knows.
blind thx for the translation, i thoughgt u forgot that jutsu haha
nice chapter anyways
-Erios-
09-11-2008, 03:32 PM
Yes, but it doesn't mean he's going to learn Jiraiya is godfather just from reading the book. He'll probably find out when he gets back to Konoha, I doubt the toads would know something like that, maybe as an end note to the series, who knows.
hmmm.... well i knew he wouldnt learn something like that from reading that book only
but who knows i mean the toads knowing something like that would be good it would speed up the inevitable truth
Itachi_the_Feared_One
09-11-2008, 04:10 PM
hmmm.... well i knew he wouldnt learn something like that from reading that book only
but who knows i mean the toads knowing something like that would be good it would speed up the inevitable truth
I really doubt it..... last time a book was given to naruto...(kabuchimaru black book) we never got a chance to see its content, although it was about Aka and all that..but still we never saw the ninja leaf discuss it (apart from kakashi identifying Zetsu). Kishi hates books :biggrin1: he may as well skip the one naruto is reading right now..........perhaps the content of the books will be fully revealed in the anime version...but who knows....
-Erios-
09-11-2008, 04:28 PM
I dont know... it doesnt seem like he will skip this one becasue Naruto is already daydreaming about the book
blind
09-11-2008, 04:59 PM
I really doubt it..... last time a book was given to naruto...(kabuchimaru black book) we never got a chance to see its content, although it was about Aka and all that..but still we never saw the ninja leaf discuss it (apart from kakashi identifying Zetsu). Kishi hates books :biggrin1: he may as well skip the one naruto is reading right now..........perhaps the content of the books will be fully revealed in the anime version...but who knows....
He's reading the book right now, Kishi stopped when he was about to reveal who the character is, then Naruto starts crying.
papfles
09-11-2008, 05:21 PM
Someone hand him a handkerchief >_>
wind33
09-11-2008, 05:46 PM
So he finds out the name of the character is his name...Then he asks questions about 2why he was named after the book...Maybe it's something the toads can tell him or maybe they don't even know...But how did they end up with the book in the first place? Did Jariaya already know that one day Naruto would be training at Toad Mountain and left the book there for him to read one day...Or maybe there is a clue in the book about how he should start training or maybe even some jutsu...It's kind of ironic that the man in the book looks like Naruto and uses KB in the same way that Naruto does...
ANBUMike
09-11-2008, 05:49 PM
I don't think the book is illustrated. That's Naruto imagining himself in those situations.
Erotique
09-11-2008, 05:49 PM
Someone hand him a handkerchief >_>
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_s6Ofh7u9lF0/SHBGNVvrmjI/AAAAAAAAAyg/xnJlcKZefM0/s1600/Emo.jpg
-Erios-
09-11-2008, 06:29 PM
So he finds out the name of the character is his name...Then he asks questions about 2why he was named after the book...Maybe it's something the toads can tell him or maybe they don't even know...But how did they end up with the book in the first place? Did Jariaya already know that one day Naruto would be training at Toad Mountain and left the book there for him to read one day...Or maybe there is a clue in the book about how he should start training or maybe even some jutsu...It's kind of ironic that the man in the book looks like Naruto and uses KB in the same way that Naruto does...
who knows but thats a good point why do the toads have the book did the great sage toad predicted that this would happen??? or what
blind
09-11-2008, 06:31 PM
who knows but thats a good point why do the toads have the book did the great sage toad predicted that this would happen??? or what
The Toad Elder did predict Jiraiya was going to write a book, this could very well be the book that he was talking about, it only makes sense for them to keep a copy of it, at least. Either that or they went out and got one, doesn't really matter which.
-Erios-
09-11-2008, 06:47 PM
The Toad Elder did predict Jiraiya was going to write a book, this could very well be the book that he was talking about, it only makes sense for them to keep a copy of it, at least. Either that or they went out and got one, doesn't really matter which.
no but did the elder frog predicted that Naruto was gonna be trained in sage arts
a copy?? hmmm idk man im guessing there is only one
rasenproc
09-11-2008, 06:56 PM
i have to say... its kinda nice to see naruto get to enjoy himself for once. its been so long since we've seen a happy moment for him
Erotique
09-11-2008, 07:00 PM
no but did the elder frog predicted that Naruto was gonna be trained in sage arts
a copy?? hmmm idk man im guessing there is only one
Elder Frog "predicted" that Jiraiya will come to learn the art of senjutsu, and that later, one of Jiraiya's "student" will become a child of prophecy...
-Erios-
09-11-2008, 07:01 PM
lol well he really hasnt had much time in his manga i mean its all about Sasuke :( but isnt he crying on the spoiler/pic???
Erotique
09-11-2008, 07:05 PM
Yes. And apparently, Sasugay's Emoness is quite contagious...
-Erios-
09-11-2008, 07:07 PM
lol yeah its seems like it is....
and btw I thought that pein was the child of the prophesy?
rasenproc
09-11-2008, 07:09 PM
lol yeah its seems like it is....
and btw I thought that pein was the child of the prophesy?
jaraiya thought that at first but right b4 he died he said it was naruto
Erotique
09-11-2008, 07:10 PM
lol yeah its seems like it is....
and btw I thought that pein was the child of the prophesy?
Jiraiya "assumed" that the child of prophecy was indeed Pein. However, he later re-discovered that the true child of prophecy was none other than Naruto...
Which was quite obvious from the beginning but *shrugs* whatever... :D
-Erios-
09-11-2008, 07:14 PM
hmmm... yeah that makes sense but still I wonder if the toads will tell Naruto the truth about who his parents are....
i mean i dont remember Naruto ever asking who his father was right??? or anything like that
ANBUMike
09-11-2008, 07:18 PM
I don't think the toads know, other than Bunta.
rasenproc
09-11-2008, 07:31 PM
I don't think the toads know, other than Bunta.
if bunta knows then im sure the others do. i doubt bunta was the only toad minato summoned (assumin he did at all. ive only seen him with the toads in the anime not the manga)
ANBUMike
09-11-2008, 07:52 PM
You're right, more than one knows...Like the key that is supposed to store itself withing Naruto.
That will probably happen after his training is done.
Erotique
09-11-2008, 07:53 PM
Well...
Gamabunta knows of Yondaime for sure, but does he know that Naruto is his son???
For now, only person who knows of Naruto's lineage is Tsunade (and Jiraiya R.I.P.), and she's strangely silent on this issue of revelation...
SpikeUchiha
09-11-2008, 09:57 PM
Yes. And apparently, Sasugay's Emoness is quite contagious...
naruto was emo long before sasuke, when haku pwned sasuke....naruto cries and hugs him then ninetails come out when naruto all f**kin emo...TBH naruto cried more then anyone else has in the manga..
ACPRO
09-11-2008, 09:58 PM
naruto was emo long before sasuke, when haku pwned sasuke....naruto cries and hugs him then ninetails come out when naruto all f**kin emo...TBH naruto cried more then anyone else has in the manga..
LoL this is actually true. I suppose naruto is infact the most emo. Never did get why everyone thought sasuke was emo, its not like he bitched about his life constantly, i thought naruto was the main complainer in all those damn fillers saying, "i know how you feel my life was exactly the same, i wanted to slit all my wrists as well :("
him and that damn ichigo should fucken mate.
kyoukan
09-11-2008, 10:01 PM
really is true
SpikeUchiha
09-11-2008, 10:08 PM
Sasuke is just like the cool kid in school you hated because you wasn't him..so you talk behind his back to make yourself feel better..
oh no oh no oh no..
Oh no kishi didn't
First you tried tsukuyomi to trap me in your genjutsu,
Then bust Amaterasu at my ass, yet I lived thu,
Oh no kishi didn't
Such hatred and humiliation will unlock Mangekyou sharingan, at last
Oh no kishi didn't
It will be funny when I get vengeance, on konoha cuz of it's past,
Oh no kishi didn't
I'm Sorry itachi but I won't follow your Path,
So the readers will curse and hate me even longer,
Its all plot just to make naruto stronger,
Oh no kishi didn't
PirUnravel
09-11-2008, 11:08 PM
lol nice factoid.
wind33
09-11-2008, 11:40 PM
I just have a strong feeling that everything Sasuke just fed Madara is bullshit. It was shown before the 8 tails fight that he reminded Team Hawk that they were just using Madara. Also before he released Amaterasu he thought about Team 7 to give him will. If Sasuke is going to kill anyone in Konoha then I think it'll only be the elders, otherwise he's gonna play the villian role till he gets to Konoha then switch sides at which point Madara is going to reveal that he already saw through Sasuke from the beginning and just wanted to see if he was really going to be foolish enough to turn on him.
Honestly...it would not be smart for Sasuke to tell Madara straight out that he's gonna protect Itachi's ideals therefore making him an enemy to Madara/Akatsuki from the start as opposed to just feeding him that bullshit explanation he just gave him about his ideals to buy himself some time.I completely agree...I don't believe that Sauske has any intention of destroying kanoha...Like you said I think that it's just to fool Madara so that when the time is right he can finish what Itachi was trying to do...I believe that Sauske will take the will of Itachi so that he can keep the memory of his brother alive...I personally don't understand why everyone wants Sauske to destroy kanoha...Besides Naruto would never let that happen...He's going to be stronger than Sauske when his training is done...Man I can't wait to see him all bad ass coming in at just the right moment to save everyones ass...
And I keep hearing people say that Kakashi will die by the hands of Pain...1st of all Kishi already said in an interview that he wants to develop kakashi's character more...We still don't have that much intel on his father except that he let the village down and committed suicide...I mean he just got his MS it would be a shame to have him die before he has a chance to master it...Just my humble opinion...
mandelak
09-11-2008, 11:46 PM
if sasuke is gonna do what he says, then he is no diff from the higher ups. he will be killing innocent people for no reason. senju didnt even have anything to do with uchiha being killed unless the higher ups are senju.
i, however think he is just saying that, but madara isnt stupid to just believe. he has a plan b just encase sasuke is screwing him over.
anyway sasuke wouldnt succeed naruto will kick his ass. that much is obvious (if he does go the bad way and try to destroy konoha)
i still don't think akatsuki are the final bad people. kabuchi still hasnt been shown, danzou's plans still havent been found out. i still hope danzou is the final since he knows konoha really well he will know how to hurt it the best.
after this akatsuki is done it will focus on kabuchimaru and then hopefully after that focus on danzou.
wind33
09-12-2008, 12:04 AM
I don't think the toads know, other than Bunta.If Minato signed a contract to summoned the toads they have to know who he is...And the key toad knows everything about Naruto and how Minato sealed the Kyuubi inside of him...So it's not unreasonable that the toads would know all about Minato and him being Naruto's father...
-Erios-
09-12-2008, 12:37 AM
hmmmm... well i dont see why is it so hard to believe that the toads specially fukutsaku knows the truth about minato
Wannabe
09-12-2008, 02:06 AM
Am I the only who doesn’t believe that what Sasuke said was a heap of lies? Considering that it was a flashback of what he said to Madara before Taka-han left to retrieve Kiraabii, I think it has significance, because it’s also a part of Kishimoto’s style--have something significant happen, but don’t reveal it until something else happens so that it will click with the readers. He did it once before when Itachi gave Naruto power.
In this case, Sasuke meant what he said, but he went into battle with Kiraabii and was protected by his team, which reminded him of Team 7. Unlike before when he was driven by his sorrow over Itachi’s death to believe that everyone in Konoha deserved to be slaughtered ruthlessly, he realizes that the people close to him now are not all that unlike the people that were close to him back then. He’s just now getting around to completely digesting the meaning of his future actions, which led Madara to make the analysis about people who know what love is are also burdened with what hate is.
Overall, I think this will be an interesting chapter...
SpikeUchiha
09-12-2008, 02:30 AM
http://tbn0.google.com/images?q=tbn:3UTL_SpyWSlk4M:http://img379.imageshack.us/img379/4405/gyujgjwm4.jpg".... Whats-a-going on?"
Drunken_Master_Rock_Lee
09-12-2008, 02:31 AM
Meh, the italian one is out on mangashare......WTF with having the italian one before the freaking english one?!
Wannabe
09-12-2008, 02:49 AM
English translation is now posted on onemanga (http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/416/01/).
Erotique
09-12-2008, 04:58 AM
And also available in NMR as well...
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