Naruto Chapter 415 Spoilers Discussion

[Tazuwukei]

Discuss spoilers/pictures in here.

Post spoilers in here (http://forum.narutochaos.com/showthread.php?t=17825).

That is all.


Oh yeah, we neglected to mention the news last week: Blind is dead.



May Kishi have mercy on his soul.

[Broken_Earth]

This spoiler is so obviously not real. Someone needs a karate chop to the jugular vein.

[Tazuwukei]

This spoiler is so obviously not real. Someone needs a karate chop to the jugular vein.

Aye. It was posted in predictions actually, somewhere around 20th page. Just copy/pasted it.

[SpikeUchiha]

sounds fake..i cant see sasuke using susanoo so soon...how can he know how..i was suprized when he used amaterasu on his own now susanoo?...and love for karin? please...She's a myspace whore

[Veni]

jesus christ this guy needs to be stopped -_-

[Mr. Above-Yo]

Both my spoilers seems possible.

[-Erios-]

well its wayy to early for a real spoiler but it was fun to read...

[~ RockSter ~]

LoL I like the spoiler posted by Tazuwukei
Naruto learning about space and time ?!
Sounds like someone wants Naruto to become the next Minato
or at least to become as fast as Madara

[GSX]

last spoiler was goood.... thought i dont think will happen

[mandelak]

good read but fake. i think

[blind]

lol, not exactly dead, but...yeah. :D

Anyways, it's still too early for spoilers, especially ones that list page by page detail...

[Murdock]

well it's not spoiler or whatsoever ... it's just prediction made by Mr. above yo so i don't pay any mind to it since we know it's fake already

[Mr. Above-Yo]

well it's not spoiler or whatsoever ... it's just prediction made by Mr. above yo so i don't pay any mind to it since we know it's fake already

All spoilers posted before Thursday are fake.

[the lost shinobi]

we've had confirmed spoilers on tuesday a couple of times before.

In other news I have reached 2500 posts!

[Mr. Above-Yo]

we've had confirmed spoilers on tuesday a couple of times before.

In other news I have reached 2500 posts!

But never this early, and all spoilers so far are from monday.

[Murdock]

well we even had spoilers in monday and were true but mpoint is that: WE know that Mr Above yo made them so tehre is no reason for us to decide if it's a fake or not since hesaid it himself he made them up

[Veni]

In other words, delete them. Or soon you will have people predict in Spoilers thread.

[Mr. Above-Yo]

"Them"? I only made the first of the spoilers. The second, I found on some website.

[~ RockSter ~]

we've had confirmed spoilers on tuesday a couple of times before.

In other news I have reached 2500 posts!


Congratulations ^^

In other words, delete them. Or soon you will have people predict in Spoilers thread.

Well most spoilers are fanmade too
so I actually see no problem in people just posting there own "spoilers"
at least I think so

The last spoiler posted by mr. Above-Yo
doesn't seem really plausible
at least I don't think Madara will show up
since he said that he believes in Sasuke to do that.

[Seraphiel]

But never this early, and all spoilers so far are from monday.


We got the spoiler when Sasuke stabbed Itachi in the genjutsu war on monday-tuesday so yeah...

[wind33]

I have a dumb question...Why does the spoilers for chapter 415 seem more like chapter415 predictions more than anything else and in the prediction threads there's only discussions about 415? I only ask because when i'm reading about Naruto mastering Sage Arts or Sauske being rescued by Madara I'd like to know if i'm reding something that someone believes will happen or is it a real spoiler...I'm just a little confused is all...

[yasuo]

I have a dumb question...Why does the spoilers for chapter 415 seem more like chapter415 predictions more than anything else and in the prediction threads there's only discussions about 415? I only ask because when i'm reading about Naruto mastering Sage Arts or Sauske being rescued by Madara I'd like to know if i'm reding something that someone believes will happen or is it a real spoiler...I'm just a little confused is all...

it isn't dumb ^^ after i read it i think so, too! but isn't it every week the same with these two threads?
because i think the predictions and spoiler discussions are not so far away of each other.
the most spoilers between monday and thursday are more like predictions than spoilers!

[SevenOfOne]

Take into consideration people post what they want to happen on other forums and say its a real spoiler by adding in some lines of kanji that only make sense if you put english into babelfish and selected Japanese.

That aside, none of those sounded right. 8 tails chakra suppressing amateresu, when the only time we've seen it controlled is when Jirayia sealed it in a scroll. (Doesn't count when Madara completely avoided it)

[papfles]

We got the spoiler when Sasuke stabbed Itachi in the genjutsu war on monday-tuesday so yeah...

Don't argue, seraphiel, you are clearly wrong!!!

[,,,^.^,,,]

ok, firstly the shit about blind is not funny. get your ass banned not funny. actually that's all

[PirUnravel]

I think it sucks how as each week progresses... peoples' "predictions" in the Predictions thread become EXACTLY like the spoilers. Last week - I decided not to look at any spoilers because I wanted to be surprised. I did, however, read the predictions thread... and on Thursday... there were people saying "I think Sasuke will definitely use Amaterasu at the last minute and..."

>_<

Might as well just start reading the spoilers every week again because people can't stop desperately trying to get credit for their "predictions".

LOL
well what do you expect ?
Kishi became predictable
that's what I see in this

kinda more shocking
Hope this will change again

--not what I meant. I was referring to people that read the spoilers and then post their "predictions" in the Predictions thread.

[~ RockSter ~]

I think it sucks how as each week progresses... peoples' "predictions" in the Predictions thread become EXACTLY like the spoilers. Last week - I decided not to look at any spoilers because I wanted to be surprised. I did, however, read the predictions thread... and on Thursday... there were people saying "I think Sasuke will definitely use Amaterasu at the last minute and..."

>_<

Might as well just start reading the spoilers every week again because people can't stop desperately trying to get credit for their "predictions".

LOL
well what do you expect ?
Kishi became predictable
that's what I see in this

kinda more shocking
Hope this will change again

[papfles]

LOL
well what do you expect ?
Kishi became predictable
that's what I see in this

kinda more shocking
Hope this will change again

Well, not really predictable I'd say.

There's only so much he could have hidden from us during the manga.

Now that we've gotten much information, we can deduce things much faster.

He only has a limited array of options that he can hide from us in the future and he's probably thinking of ways to incorporate even more new things that fit within the universe.

Add in the fact that manga's are kind of limited in their storyline / presentation and the fact that fans are usually more knowledgeable about the manga, and it leads to better predictions and such.

[~ RockSter ~]

Well I see nothing bad in it

[blind]

Well I see nothing bad in it

Nothing bad in being predictable? What's the point of read if you know what's going to happen, aside from for the art? I'd say the majority of people read for the storyline.

[YellowFlash23]

ok they were both interesting
however as they were both different itd be nice if the poster would say how reliable the source of the spoiler is so we know if one is more reliable or if either is reliable at all

[blind]

ok they were both interesting
however as they were both different itd be nice if the poster would say how reliable the source of the spoiler is so we know if one is more reliable or if either is reliable at all

And how exactly would the poster know that? Usually they'll just be pending or the source is unconfirmed, so there's not really a need for it.

[the lost shinobi]

in the last spoiler, what the hell does it mean "8 against 8"?

[-Erios-]

who knows...but if this one came out true then does it means that the ninja is his brother????

[sasuke123uchiha]

i think it means that four more ninjas will help sasuke suigetsu karin and juugo which means 8ninjas vs 8tails

[mandelak]

what did it mean by 8 against 8

[-Erios-]

we dont know but that part sounds fake 8v/s8 this isnt a war :p

[ANBUMike]

What came to my mind immediately after reading the 8v8 part was the ying and yang 8t chakra.

But the spoiler is not very believable.:yo:

[mandelak]

i really dont get 8 against 8

i mean 8tails brother talking saying if you dont then i will join the fight and it will make it 8 against 8.

unless im completely lost

[-Erios-]

i really dont get 8 against 8

i mean 8tails brother talking saying if you dont then i will join the fight and it will make it 8 against 8.

unless im completely lost

dont worry about it its probably a fake one...

[ANBUMike]

Yeah, we shouldn't see anything good til tomorrow.

[Herumor]

Most of these don't even sound realistic xDD

[YellowFlash23]

ok just saw a spoiler online that was so fake it wasnt ven worth it
kisame and iruka came save sasuke lol hahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahahah
and kisame freaks out cuz the 8tj broke zabuzas sword

[-Erios-]

man you should post it here i mean to have us a good laugh

[Dream Catcher]

please don't, this forum already looks bad enough with the noobs running loose :p

New spoiler looks pretty dang believable, but his brother? That's a bit sketchy. It's interesting how everyone is saying 8tails will break out of amaterasu with his own chakra, seems plausible

[Csdabest]

Man....All of these is fakes. If i had no life. I would page/post link you do the prediction threads from which they came.

[ANBUMike]

New spoiler looks pretty dang believable, but his brother? That's a bit sketchy.

Well, the 8t does mention a brother.

[Dream Catcher]

Oh he does? I must have missed it... OH that's right, I remember now... Intersesting indeed

[blind]

It's likely that the dark skinned guy is his brother, he does have a nickname (sort of) for him, and also how many dark skinned characters have we seen in Naruto?

[Mr. Above-Yo]

The black dude isn't 8-tails' brother, the Kage is. It's pretty obvious.

Besides, the only two black persons being brothers... Would be dumb.

BTW, posted new spoiler.

[KageNaruto]

It's pretty obvious.



Obvious in which way? I see none.

And blind, what nickname? Killer bee is the 8TJ's name.

[blind]

And blind, what nickname? Killer bee is the 8TJ's name.

lol, so everyone else in Narutoverse has a normal name, while his is Killer bee? I refuse to believe that's his real name, unless there's a different translation for it, which I'm looking into at the moment.

[Mr. Above-Yo]

Killer Bee is obviously his name as a rapper.
Like how Curtis Jackson is 50 Cent's name, but everyone knows him as 50 Cent.

[KageNaruto]

lol, so everyone else in Narutoverse has a normal name, while his is Killer bee? I refuse to believe that's his real name, unless there's a different translation for it, which I'm looking into at the moment.

Well, Kira Hachi. Sounds more believable in Japanese. Besides, he seems like the guy to change his original name to me, so even if it isn't his "actual" name it still is his name and probably what he wants people to refer to him as.

EDIT: Above, the fact that you know that guy's name makes me cringe.

[the lost shinobi]

The black dude isn't 8-tails' brother, the Kage is. It's pretty obvious.


The Kage huh... and it's obvious... well i guess you've outwitted everyone else, especially with your incredible explanantion



Besides, the only two black persons being brothers... Would be dumb.

you say dumb, I say more plausible and logical than your "obvious" statement above

[blind]

Well, Kira Hachi. Sounds more believable in Japanese. Besides, he seems like the guy to change his original name to me, so even if it isn't his "actual" name it still is his name and probably what he wants people to refer to him as.


Or it could be a nickname, Killer bee just sounds too...well translated for it to be an actual name.

Just checked the chinese version, his name directly translate to Kilawei, close enough to Killer Bee I guess, but still sounds a lot like a nickname than an actual name to me.

[Mr. Above-Yo]

Killer Bee is obviously his name as a rapper.
Like how Curtis Jackson is 50 Cent's name, but everyone knows him as 50 Cent.

[papfles]

The black dude isn't 8-tails' brother, the Kage is. It's pretty obvious.

There you go again, acting like you have all the wisdom and everyone else is a complete jackass :)

Must be tough to be you, with all these morons around...

[Seraphiel]

Or it could be a nickname, Killer bee just sounds too...well translated for it to be an actual name.

Just checked the chinese version, his name directly translate to Kilawei, close enough to Killer Bee I guess, but still sounds a lot like a nickname than an actual name to me.
Kira Hachi as Kage said sound more believable to be his name than nickname to me,but then again it could just be me,although that's the only name we will ever know him under imho.
There you go again, acting like you have all the wisdom and everyone else is a complete jackass :)

Must be tough to be you, with all these morons around...

rofl :D

[Mr. Above-Yo]

There you go again, acting like you have all the wisdom and everyone else is a complete jackass :)

Must be tough to be you, with all these morons around...

:fencing: lol. Don't be so negative:welcome:

[Veni]

I think it's obvious that 50 Cent is 8TJ's brother and he will be introduced later in the series, duuuh.

[Mr. Above-Yo]

I think it's obvious that 50 Cent is 8TJ's brother and he will be introduced later in the series, duuuh.

Would be cool, lol. Fuck Akatsuki. G-Unit is the new criminal organisation in Naruto!

[blind]

Kira Hachi as Kage said sound more believable to be his name than nickname to me,but then again it could just be me,although that's the only name we will ever know him under imho.


I'm going to have to look for the Japanese version and find a translation for it, because it just translates too perfectly imo for it to be his name. I mean, if it sounds similar (Killer/Kira in DN), sure, but to be translated exactly into Killer Bee? I'm not so sure about that.

[mandelak]

looks like naruto is gonna start learning some jutsu. i can't wait to see him in battle. he is going to be a freaking monster man. i love how he has those eyes they look awesome on him.


lol so that would make 3 black characters so far. the dude that is with the other dude atop the mountain and the raikage and killerbee

[emrahsungu]

Just a few questions
1)How long did it take naruto to master (almost:P, his eyes are still frog, which i think is better than if it did not turn froggy:)) i think 1~2 days
2)The ameterasu that sasuke so effortlessly dodged is now owning the strongest bijuu after kyuubi?

[~ RockSter ~]

Just a few questions
1)How long did it take naruto to master (almost:P, his eyes are still frog, which i think is better than if it did not turn froggy:)) i think 1~2 days
2)The ameterasu that sasuke so effortlessly dodged is now owning the strongest bijuu after kyuubi?

1. seems so
2. Well I don't remember a confirmed spoiler saying this .

What I am interested in is that Naruto became Jiraiya's first book
is the name really " natural Jutsus "?
I thought the first book Jiraiya wrote was the book about Naruto.

[blind]

Just a few questions
1)How long did it take naruto to master (almost:P, his eyes are still frog, which i think is better than if it did not turn froggy:)) i think 1~2 days
2)The ameterasu that sasuke so effortlessly dodged is now owning the strongest bijuu after kyuubi?

1) Assuming Sasuke's stay in Kumo has only been a day or so, 1-2 days sound about right, if not a little longer.

2) Didn't really dodge it effortlessly, took quite a bit out of him with his Kawarimi, and it did hit him. And plus, it just said it'll cover him, who knows, in the next chapter he might just explode and disperse the fire.


What I am interested in is that Naruto became Jiraiya's first book
is the name really " natural Jutsus "?
I thought the first book Jiraiya wrote was the book about Naruto.

No, we know that he's written Icha Icha Paradise before that book, so it couldn't have been the first.

[sasuke123uchiha]

Just a few questions
1)How long did it take naruto to master (almost:P, his eyes are still frog, which i think is better than if it did not turn froggy:)) i think 1~2 days
2)The ameterasu that sasuke so effortlessly dodged is now owning the strongest bijuu after kyuubi?
acording to the spoilers it didn't own killer bee(8tj)

[~ RockSter ~]

1)
No, we know that he's written Icha Icha Paradise before that book, so it couldn't have been the first.

Thanks ^^
it's really confusing talking about the right order Jiraiya wrote his books

[mandelak]

well imo i wouldnt count that dodge as a dodge since we now know itachi wasnt trying to kill him lol and some of it may of been itachi not wanting to kill him lol.

but i think the chakra of the biju should be able to take care of the fire. also i doubt sasuke has been there fighting killer bee for 2 days straight. few hours yes, but naruto was training before sasuke got to killer bee. so naruto training for few days possibly true, but sasuke being in kumo for 2 days yes, but not fighting for 2 days.

[Seraphiel]

WTF 8tails is not countering and the shinobi are not helping him but when they say UCHIHA they go to report to raikage,ok seriously uchiha is feared.

An epic turn of events would be if Raikage actually came and faced madara who want's to protect his young Sasuke :D.

No one can argue that they wouldn't want to see that happen.


Madara vs a Kage lvl nin.

[SpikeUchiha]

WTF 8tails is not countering and the shinobi are not helping him but when they say UCHIHA they go to report to raikage,ok seriously uchiha is feared.

An epic turn of events would be if Raikage actually came and faced madara who want's to protect his young Sasuke :D.

No one can argue that they wouldn't want to see that happen.


Madara vs a Kage lvl nin.
that would be an epic fight indeed...zetsu should be there to tivo that one for sure! lol

[blind]

No one can argue that they wouldn't want to see that happen.


Madara vs a Kage lvl nin.

Madara isn't even there with Sasuke, for all we know he's still in Amegakure, at least from what we've last seen from him anyways.

[Sparda]

Madara has Mr. Spock and Scooty to beam him to whereever he wants. No problem:thumb:

And Naruto's frog face looks hilarious.

[Mr. Above-Yo]

I said it, didn't I?

Raikage was 8-Tail's brother.

[Hyugumaki]

I'm very curious to find what Naruto learns in that book of Jiraiya's. I wonder if Naruto will figure out who his parents are through reading his book. I dunno, he may not, but I'm still wondering what's in there. I was not anticipating naruto getting a hold of Jiriaya's book so soon. I guess pa saw how much Naruto was advancing that he could use it and effectively. Maybe Naruto will learn some kind of truth from this book about Pein that wasn't really found in the Icha tactics.

I'm really anxious for more Naruto. Sauske could win or lose, I could care less. The only interesting thing from this fight is he's remembering Team Kakashi in a positive light and that might change his attitude from here on.

Kishi is giving us some good stuff finally!

[blind]

I'm very curious to find what Naruto learns in that book of Jiraiya's. I wonder if Naruto will figure out who his parents are through reading his book. I dunno, he may not, but I'm still wondering what's in there. I was not anticipating naruto getting a hold of Jiriaya's book so soon. I guess pa saw how much Naruto was advancing that he could use it and effectively. Maybe Naruto will learn some kind of truth from this book about Pein that wasn't really found in the Icha tactics.

I'm really anxious for more Naruto. Sauske could win or lose, I could care less. The only interesting thing from this fight is he's remembering Team Kakashi in a positive light and that might change his attitude from here on.

Kishi is giving us some good stuff finally!

Actually, from the title of the book, I thought it was Jiraiya writing about his experiences with Senjutsu, not a novel, but a guide, if you will, about Senjutsu.

[Sparda]

I think it's the first novel Jiraiya wrote. The one where Naruto has gotten his name. Probably doesn't have much to do with Senjutsu.

[blind]

I think it's the first novel Jiraiya wrote. The one where Naruto has gotten his name. Probably doesn't have much to do with Senjutsu.

The one where Naruto got his name is not the first book. He mentioned to Minato when he showed him the book that he should have "sexed up the book so it sells better", which means that his Icha Icha books came before that one.

[wind33]

I'm very curious to find what Naruto learns in that book of Jiraiya's. I wonder if Naruto will figure out who his parents are through reading his book. I dunno, he may not, but I'm still wondering what's in there. I was not anticipating naruto getting a hold of Jiriaya's book so soon. I guess pa saw how much Naruto was advancing that he could use it and effectively. Maybe Naruto will learn some kind of truth from this book about Pein that wasn't really found in the Icha tactics.

I'm really anxious for more Naruto. Sauske could win or lose, I could care less. The only interesting thing from this fight is he's remembering Team Kakashi in a positive light and that might change his attitude from here on.

Kishi is giving us some good stuff finally!I agree, I would like to know if Minato studied the same book with the Toad Sage or if "That Technique" is the one that Jariaya was talking to the Key toad about...And i'd like to know if Natural Jutsu is one of the strongest forms of jutsu or maybe even THE strongest...Maybe 'That Jutsu" has something to do with time and space jutsus' that the forth knew...I'm very excited to see what Naruto will learn and how powerful he will become... Oh and about Sauske, I'm really getting tired of all the chapters focusing on him and his lame team...move on Kishi...

[Hellspawn0707]

The one where Naruto got his name is not the first book. He mentioned to Minato when he showed him the book that he should have "sexed up the book so it sells better", which means that his Icha Icha books came before that one.

No he said he should try to sex up the sequal, to the one Minato had read.
So we have no idea if this was his 1st or 10th book. All we do know is that the one Minato was reading was the book that Naruto got his name from.
http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/382/08/

[blind]

How did he know it was his forte if he hasn't sold a book and received feedback in terms of sales? I think he wrote Icha Icha before it.

[Hellspawn0707]

How did he know it was his forte if he hasn't sold a book and received feedback in terms of sales? I think he wrote Icha Icha before it.

He could of known it was his forte to write sex stories because through his own admission he's a pervert. All I was saying is we don't know which one he wrote first.

[ANBUMike]

How did he know it was his forte if he hasn't sold a book and received feedback in terms of sales? I think he wrote Icha Icha before it.

I think it came after that book. That's when they started selling, so he never stopped writing them. Sex does sell, after all.

[papfles]

I said it, didn't I?

Raikage was 8-Tail's brother.

You also said that susanoo was the first time Itachi coughed blood :)

You win some, you lose some.


Here, a cracker because you got this right.

[Seraphiel]

Madara isn't even there with Sasuke, for all we know he's still in Amegakure, at least from what we've last seen from him anyways.

Well imo he may be watching Sasuke this whole time,or he could just fly there,flying=fast.



pap he said Susano made him sick and that he took medicine during the fight,that's 2 wrongs 1 ok.


Ok seriously Ama beat hachibi.

[papfles]

LOL

Amaterasu got the 8-tails?

and byebye karin too apparently (not a very good "deal" to make us accept the death/defeat of the 8-tails who easily whooped everyone's ass up until then).

Weakest escape so far (and the previous ones were sasuke - deidara and sasuke - Itachi. He has a way of escaping that which he shouldn't have been able to escape).

[EnvoyofDestiny]

that karin thing surprised me, but the spoiler i posted is confirmed on manga helpers.

[Seraphiel]

LOL

Amaterasu got the 8-tails?

and byebye karin too apparently (not a very good "deal" to make us accept the death/defeat of the 8-tails who easily whooped everyone's ass up until then).

Weakest escape so far (and the previous ones were sasuke - deidara and sasuke - Itachi. He has a way of escaping that which he shouldn't have been able to escape).

And we are actually gonna see the raikage,epic.

Well imo 4tk would lose to amaterasu 2,don't u agree,btw pap read neruo its 10 times better then naruto.

[GSX]

well, nice chapter coming soon. And a big lol for the raikage shit....... that thing of the book, it looks like a jutsus book so far.

Also mizukage, from which village is? madara was named mizukage by kisame

[Seraphiel]

well, nice chapter coming soon. And a big lol for the raikage shit....... that thing of the book, it looks like a jutsus book so far.

Also mizukage, from which village is? madara was named mizukage by kisame

Hidden mist,the village zabuza and kisame where from.

[GSX]

thx, so really amaterasu is, as paps said i think, one of the strongests ninjutsus in naruto. My god sasuke is really getting strong, besides we may be able to see the "That Jutsu" naruto have :D

[Mr. Above-Yo]

Die, Karin! :D

[GSX]

wtf, why is everyone saying that sasuke used tsukiyomi? cause it looked like a normal genjutsu... all because it was dark? lol

[Hellspawn0707]

Well this does set it up for a bigger war now. Kohona and the Cloud village vs. Mist village and Rain village. Raikage will want revenge for his brother being captured. The 1 thing I don't understand is though the 2tails said she was the 2nd strongest in the village, you would think the 8tails and the Raikage could defeat her making her the 3rd strongest.

[nagato]

cool naruto getting the book with all different types of sage art ninjutsus i believe sweet hes gonna learn hermit mode although that would look so funny on naruto with his big frog nose and long long yellow hair with 2 frogs on his shoulders lol just like jiriyia

[papfles]

Well imo 4tk would lose to amaterasu 2,don't u agree,btw pap read neruo its 10 times better then naruto.

Well, if the entire fully controlled 8tails loses like this to amaterasu, then Naruto (even with sage arts) would lose too.

What is neruo about?

[WjRgX]

can someone clear up for me where Narutos "that Jutsu" originated from. I remeber when oro told Sasuke not to us his "that Jutsu" but I don't remeber when or where it came about for Naruto.
Thanks

[Hellspawn0707]

can someone clear up for me where Narutos "that Jutsu" originated from. I remeber when oro told Sasuke not to us his "that Jutsu" but I don't remeber when or where it came about for Naruto.
Thanks

http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/251/14/

[wind33]

How did he know it was his forte if he hasn't sold a book and received feedback in terms of sales? I think he wrote Icha Icha before it. I disagree Blind...I think that the fact that he said that sex was his forte is attributed to him having been a self admitted pervert all his life and that he was good at sexual matters, not that he hasn't sold a book about sex yet and therefore his book sales weren't good...I believe that the book that Minato was reading is the first book he wrote...It ties in with the Naruto saga...This being the first book he tried writing and having that be the book that Minato and Kushina name Naruto after and Jariaya remembering it after so long and at the end deciding to dedicate it to Naruto as he dies...It's a complete circle and it also ties in with the reason why to toad Sage says that he would write this book...it's meaning was written in prohecy for the one would ultimately bring peace to the shinobi world...enter Naruto!!!

[Hyugumaki]

I disagree Blind...I think that the fact that he said that sex was his forte is attributed to him having been a self admitted pervert all his life and that he was good at sexual matters, not that he hasn't sold a book about sex yet and therefore his book sales weren't good...I believe that the book that Minato was reading is the first book he wrote...It ties in with the Naruto saga...This being the first book he tried writing and having that be the book that Minato and Kushina name Naruto after and Jariaya remembering it after so long and at the end deciding to dedicate it to Naruto as he dies...It's a complete circle and it also ties in with the reason why to toad Sage says that he would write this book...it's meaning was written in prohecy for the one would ultimately bring peace to the shinobi world...enter Naruto!!!

I agree and I was going to argue this point until I read your post which did it for me.

Actually, from the title of the book, I thought it was Jiraiya writing about his experiences with Senjutsu, not a novel, but a guide, if you will, about Senjutsu.

My other support for this argument is that any jutsu is explained on Scrolls in the Naruto Verse. Scrolls hold the secrets to all kinds of crazy awesome jutsu and those things are closely gaurded and revered. If this book were like a scroll that held infromation to unlimited power, why would he try to sell it? It's not a manual or how-to on jutsu, it's simply a stroy told about his own life through the eyes of a different character. Granted, the character in the book probably has a knowledge of Senjutsu, but it's not working like a scroll in that it's a detail of how to do a jutsu.

In a way, his first book probably is somewhat of a guide, but it can only be seen as such by a person who knows Jiraiya best, which is Naruto. Naruto might be able to pick up on subtle hints of Senjutsu from Jiraiya's travels and then transform it into his own training. The Great Sage toad told Jiraiya to do this without knowing the reason. If he knew the reason, it would change how the book was written and undo the whole act of writing a book on travels about Nature.

[Murdock]

just wow ... Naruto and his "That jutsu" all over again :) i love it :) ... and props to those who said that Raikage is brother os the 8-tails ... you got it well guys ...

[~ RockSter ~]

Sasuke gained a new power ?
I hope the spoiler means amaterasu
otherwise this will be honestly exeggarated by Kishi

[Mr. Above-Yo]

just wow ... Naruto and his "That jutsu" all over again :) i love it :) ... and props to those who said that Raikage is brother os the 8-tails ... you got it well guys ...

Thanks. Yeah, I got it well. I'm pretty awesome, actually :focus:

Now, I seriously hopes that Karin dies. And Juugo, too. They were disgusting, weird and... Lame.

[emrahsungu]

Just a few questions
1)How long did it take naruto to master (almost:P, his eyes are still frog, which i think is better than if it did not turn froggy:)) i think 1~2 days
2)The ameterasu that sasuke so effortlessly dodged is now owning the strongest bijuu after kyuubi?

lol i am quoting myself:D

[EnvoyofDestiny]

Sasuke gained a new power ?
I hope the spoiler means amaterasu
otherwise this will be honestly exeggarated by Kishi

i literally threw my laptop on the ground when i read sasukes new power. Im hoping ama too.

[Mr. Above-Yo]

Meh, it's just Amaterasu. When I'm not wrong, I'm always right, so count on it.

[Murdock]

i woudln't be suprised if it would be something else :D ... Naruto got sage chakra then Kishi realised how strong it is so he gotta get some power to Sasuke since he got so little in thins manga :D

[~ RockSter ~]

Haha
I remember discussions where you weren't right
whatever

i literally threw my laptop on the ground when i read sasukes new power. Im hoping ama too.

Well at least it's Sasuke so everything is possible but
Honstely this will be too much
I'll freak out

[Mr. Above-Yo]

Haha
I remember discussions where you weren't right


I know?

That's why I said:
When I'm not wrong, I'm always right, so count on it.

[~ RockSter ~]

Aaah sorry dude
I apologize
I just browsed over your post so
I am sorry

[Mr. Above-Yo]

Aaah sorry dude
I apologize
I just browsed over your post so
I am sorry

You're forgiven, lol:biggrin1:

[EnvoyofDestiny]

i hope new spoiler pics come out, i want to see what happened to karin.

[Herumor]

Now, I seriously hopes that Karin dies. And Juugo, too. They were disgusting, weird and... Lame.

I'd rather Juugo and Suigetsu get knocked off rather then Karin. She was the teams medical-nin after all, though her bewbs cannot match Tsunade-samas!


At last we have some decent spoilers, those early ones just made me laugh >.> More 'that jutsus' for Naruto hooray! With his senjutsu training he might even be a match for Kishi's beloved Saus-gay. I really hope he develops some new techniques rather then just putting a new spin on old jutsu. Unless of course he develops a new better Kage Bunshin making his inevitable fight with Pain 'easier'.

[-Erios-]

ahh i havent read any of the discussions but it seems like Naruto might learn where he got his name from? right this is going to be interesting.

[blind]

I agree and I was going to argue this point until I read your post which did it for me.

Each to their own I guess, but looking at the picture of the book he showed Minato and the one that Pa showed Naruto, they look pretty different, so I doubt they're the same book.


My other support for this argument is that any jutsu is explained on Scrolls in the Naruto Verse. Scrolls hold the secrets to all kinds of crazy awesome jutsu and those things are closely gaurded and revered. If this book were like a scroll that held infromation to unlimited power, why would he try to sell it? It's not a manual or how-to on jutsu, it's simply a stroy told about his own life through the eyes of a different character. Granted, the character in the book probably has a knowledge of Senjutsu, but it's not working like a scroll in that it's a detail of how to do a jutsu.

In a way, his first book probably is somewhat of a guide, but it can only be seen as such by a person who knows Jiraiya best, which is Naruto. Naruto might be able to pick up on subtle hints of Senjutsu from Jiraiya's travels and then transform it into his own training. The Great Sage toad told Jiraiya to do this without knowing the reason. If he knew the reason, it would change how the book was written and undo the whole act of writing a book on travels about Nature.

Are we still talking about the same book? Spoiler says the title of the book is something about Senjutsu, I don't see how Naruto's name would have came to be in this book. I believe it's more likely that this book is something Jiraiya wrote after learning about his destiny, the book that the Toad Elder foresaw him writing.

[Dream Catcher]

I think the Raikage is freaking strong ! He could give the 8 tails a run for his money... KonohaxKumo

[Seraphiel]

Each to their own I guess, but looking at the picture of the book he showed Minato and the one that Pa showed Naruto, they look pretty different, so I doubt they're the same book.



Are we still talking about the same book? Spoiler says the title of the book is something about Senjutsu, I don't see how Naruto's name would have came to be in this book. I believe it's more likely that this book is something Jiraiya wrote after learning about his destiny, the book that the Toad Elder foresaw him writing.
I think that's the book that was a floop,and then he wrote the naruto thingy book or are they the same?
I think the Raikage is freaking strong ! He could give the 8 tails a run for his money... KonohaxKumo
I want madara to kill Raikage.

[EnvoyofDestiny]

i just posted first two lines re-translation by Cry of the Hawk. It seems that sasuke is indeed victorious. and carries 8tj on his shoulders

from mangahelpers

[Dream Catcher]

Pfff... yeah right, sasuke is gonna get his ass beat ;)

[EnvoyofDestiny]

Pfff... yeah right, sasuke is gonna get his ass beat ;)

:( its such a shame kishimoto has sasuke grossly underpowered. He doesnt get enough time spent on him either.

[Seraphiel]

Pfff... yeah right, sasuke is gonna get his ass beat ;)

actually those are already confirmed so yeah sasuke actually won DC.

[Erotique]

actually those are already confirmed so yeah sasuke actually won DC.

What do you mean "actually?"

Were you expecting anything less from a guy who can do summon Manda, cast genjutsu on his ass, and do space/time jutsu to escape, and do all these things within a blink of an eye without any chakra left?

Ofcourse Sasugay will win... one way or another...

[Seraphiel]

What do you mean "actually?"

Were you expecting anything less from a guy who can do summon Manda, cast genjutsu on his ass, and do space/time jutsu to escape, and do all these things within a blink of an eye without any chakra left?

Ofcourse Sasugay will win... one way or another...

I knew he would win he is the best char in the whole manga,he lost enough times pre timeskip.

[EnvoyofDestiny]

I am disappointed that this fight was so one sided. It usually isnt like this with sasuke. He usually has a back and forth fight, not a one shot i love my freinds ultimate jutsu.

[Dream Catcher]

Oh please, he didn't win...

There's more to this story than you may think... 8tails, a guy who was owning Sasuke in unreleased form, lost to Amaterasu -_- please

[Erotique]

Oh please, he didn't win...

There's more to this story than you may think... 8tails, a guy who was owning Sasuke in unreleased form, lost to Amaterasu -_- please

With Sasugay, ANYTHING is possible...

I knew he would win he is the best char in the whole manga,he lost enough times pre timeskip.

Seraphiel, I like you, and I think you're very nice guy and all, but all your enthusiasm of Sasugay lovin' is getting me really heated up here...

You deserve a proper punishment...

*bring out a "cat-o'nine-tails"*

You naughty, naughty you...

[EnvoyofDestiny]

Oh please, he didn't win...

There's more to this story than you may think... 8tails, a guy who was owning Sasuke in unreleased form, lost to Amaterasu -_- please

the confirmed spoiler has him carrying habichi on his shoulder. Maybe there will be a twist. no need to make mean faces :(

[Dream Catcher]

lol how did he lose enough pre-skip?

Sera you bandwaggoner :p

[Seraphiel]

Oh please, he didn't win...

There's more to this story than you may think... 8tails, a guy who was owning Sasuke in unreleased form, lost to Amaterasu -_- please

Yes there is,we are actually gonna see the Raikage,and I hope madra kills him.




@ero Sasu is sexy,strong naked most of the time in the new movie,I love him.

[Erotique]

the confirmed spoiler has him carrying habichi on his shoulder. Maybe there will be a twist. no need to make mean faces :(

pft... it's likely that Kishi was trying to give an attempt to mortalize Sasugay again; however, if this is an another example of "One-Hit-Wonder", then I am sorely disappointed...

[EnvoyofDestiny]

pft... it's likely that Kishi was trying to give an attempt to mortalize Sasugay again; however, if this is an another example of "One-Hit-Wonder", then I am sorely disappointed...

Oh i agree. This would be a naruto-esque win.

i just noticed "pfft" why so rude?

[Dream Catcher]

huh?

lol, nways, there's more to this fight, no way will the 8 tails lose so quickly. Kishi actually somehow developed his char only to have Sasuke get HALF A PANEL of flashbacks and go all emo and win? GAY

[Naru-Ichi]

huh?

lol, nways, there's more to this fight, no way will the 8 tails lose so quickly. Kishi actually somehow developed his char only to have Sasuke get HALF A PANEL of flashbacks and go all emo and win? GAY

I agree, to end it with just Amatersu is just lame. Kishi should've atleast made Madara or someone come and help Sasuke out.

[Erotique]

huh?

lol, anyways, there's nothing more to this fight really. Sasuke's emoness is enough to nullify even Itachi's Tsukuyomi... So I wouldn't expect anything less from this fight either.

[Dream Catcher]

You guys all sprawl up when the spoilers say Sasuke is carrying the 8 tails, but before no one said his emoness will win :p u guys are lame

[Itachi_the_Feared_One]

@ero Sasu is sexy,strong naked most of the time in the new movie,I love him.

You finally came out of the closet..lol...as expected....
:focus:

Apparently Amaterasu knocked the shit out of Killerbee, I wonder what would have happend, If Sasuke used Susanoo???

I did not espect the fight would end so soon, I guess Kishi could not help it, and gave Sasuke another win, fullfifling in the process, the happiness of the Sasuke gay community.:biggrin1:

[Seraphiel]

You guys all sprawl up when the spoilers say Sasuke is carrying the 8 tails, but before no one said his emoness will win :p u guys are lame

Actually most of them are just angry Sasuke won.

There is nothing like that in Neruo,best manga ever.

[Erotique]

You guys all sprawl up when the spoilers say Sasuke is carrying the 8 tails, but before no one said his emoness will win :p u guys are lame

DC... even if the spoiler is fake, would it make any difference in the end?

Sasugay will prevail, ONE WAY OR ANOTHER...

[Seraphiel]

You finally came out of the closet..lol...as expected....
:focus:

Apparently Amaterasu knocked the shit out of Killerbee, I wonder what would have happend, If Sasuke used Susanoo???

I did not espect the fight would end so soon, I guess Kishi could not help it, and gave Sasuke another win, fullfifling in the process, the happiness of the Sasuke gay community.:biggrin1:

I was never hiding it.
Susano would hit hachibi on the head with the blunt side of his sword and put hi in a coma.

[EnvoyofDestiny]

DC... even if the spoiler is fake, would it make any difference in the end?

Sasugay will prevail, ONE WAY OR ANOTHER...

the spoiler is confirmed.

[-Erios-]

man this totally sucks next ting you see a simple Rasengan is gonna defeat pein
-_- DC im with you man im so disappointed on kishi right now

[EnvoyofDestiny]

I kinda feel like this had to happen. Sasuke and his team were half dead. Back up or escape was there only out. He was too fast and big to escape. Plus the raikage has been introduced as a character. So even if this is the end of killer bee his influence as a character surely isnt dead.


then again i could be completely wrong and killer bee was playing possum

[Swift]

Uhhh... anyone think that maybe... just maybe.. Sasuke is carrying Hachibi on his shoulders for future extraction of his tailed beast? I mean I know it's a stretch and all, since we've already seen this happen a few times now. :tsk:

[EnvoyofDestiny]

Uhhh... anyone think that maybe... just maybe.. Sasuke is carrying Hachibi on his shoulders for future extraction of his tailed beast? I mean I know it's a stretch and all, since we've already seen this happen a few times now. :tsk:

no! no!!! that doesnt make any sense!!!!! are you crazy???? What the F*ck?!!!!

[Seraphiel]

Uhhh... anyone think that maybe... just maybe.. Sasuke is carrying Hachibi on his shoulders for future extraction of his tailed beast? I mean I know it's a stretch and all, since we've already seen this happen a few times now. :tsk:
yes he is doing exactly that.What did u think he was doing?
no! no!!! that doesnt make any sense!!!!! are you crazy???? What the F*ck?!!!!
Anus penis u say.

[Itachi_the_Feared_One]

Here's my rap lyrics as a tribute to killerbee,

Madara thinks, plans and makes the plot,
Sasuke and his team are off to the candy shop.
on their way they meet with the 8 tail host
Karin is bitten and hell yeah she's hot.
and Killerbee was done by Amat in one shot.

--------------------------------------The End------------------------------

[EnvoyofDestiny]

Here's my rap lyrics as a tribute to killerbee,

Madara thinks, plans and makes the plot,
Sasuke and his team are off to the candy shop.
on their way they meet with the 8 tail host
Karin is bitten and hell yeah she's hot.
and Killerbee was done by Amat in one shot.

--------------------------------------The End------------------------------



i like dat. the closing line was especially cute


Seraphiel im saying your my boyfriend!! duh

[Naru-Ichi]

Here's my rap lyrics as a tribute to killerbee,

Madara thinks, plans and makes the plot,
Sasuke and his team are off to the candy shop.
on their way they meet with the 8 tail host
Karin is bitten and hell yeah she's hot.
and Killerbee was done by Amat in one shot.

--------------------------------------The End------------------------------


LOL please don't try that ever again

[nagato]

pissed sasuke wins cause of ameteratsu lol gets karin hahaha funny. great now all they need is kyuubi and they get that new jutsu that pein will create.

[Dream Catcher]

LOL please don't try that ever again

and why is that? Let's see you try to write some rhymes

[Seraphiel]

Here's my rap lyrics as a tribute to killerbee,

Madara thinks, plans and makes the plot,
Sasuke and his team are off to the candy shop.
on their way they meet with the 8 tail host
Karin is bitten and hell yeah she's hot.
and Killerbee was done by Amat in one shot.

--------------------------------------The End------------------------------

YEAH BOIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII

I hope he really is knocked out.

btw u should change ur name to Kira Hachi now.

[Naru-Ichi]

and why is that? Let's see you try to write some rhymes

Because it was lame. And why should I write some "rhymes".

[-Erios-]

all of whats gonna happen with sasuke defeating 8 tails is genjutsu thats the only logical explanation

[Itachi_the_Feared_One]

and why is that? Let's see you try to write some rhymes
Yeah that's right lets see if he can do better, it took me 3 minute to come up with that.
YEAH BOIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII

I hope he really is knocked out.

btw u should change ur name to Kira Hachi now.

Dude, Itachi is my god, he's irreplacable..:biggrin1:

Because it was lame. And why should I write some "rhymes".

what do you know about rap anyway, Jay z wanna be !!!!

[Naru-Ichi]

Yeah that's right lets see if he can do better, it took me 3 minute to come up with that.

And you wasted 3 minutes of your life :D

[mandelak]

well i guess (A) can defeat anything. naruto doesnt stand a chance if he gets hit with that.

i wonder what naruto meant by maybe i can use that jutsu now. probably FRS. if using natural energy helps him not get hurt for FRS that will be really good to see and he should be able to use it more frequently.

do you think karin getting hit with (A) means she is dead

[-Erios-]

hmmm idk I think that "that jutsu" is something we havent seen before..

[Naru-Ichi]

what do you know about rap anyway, Jay z wanna be !!!!

Maybe because it's the main genre of music I listen to and actually I do like Jay-Z

[baargalat]

this gonna be another lame ass chapter for me. 8 tails get pawned so easily and sasugay has been winning all those fight, and yet naruto is still learning how to control the natural chakra. for once mr. kishi, sasugay getting too much of the center of the attention. :mad:

[Naru-Ichi]

this gonna be another lame ass chapter for me. 8 tails get pawned so easily and sasugay has been winning all those fight, and yet naruto is still learning how to control the natural chakra. for once mr. kishi, sasugay getting too much of the center of the attention. :mad:

Well him getting beat up and almost dying was good while it lasted

[SpikeUchiha]

does that mean karin is dead then?

[Itachi_the_Feared_One]

well i guess (A) can defeat anything. naruto doesnt stand a chance if he gets hit with that.

i wonder what naruto meant by maybe i can use that jutsu now. probably FRS. if using natural energy helps him not get hurt for FRS that will be really good to see and he should be able to use it more frequently.

You know thw way kishi is portraying both Sasuke and naruto way of ninja, is quite simple to figure out, Kishi wants through naruto to convey the message that ambition (becoming hokage) is accomplished through hardship and training, on the other hand with Sasuke, Kishi is telling us that having crystal clear objectives and ambitions (revenge and quest for power) also achieve great results, with a difference that kishi has somehow overpowered Sasuke in the process, making him the coolest character in the narutoverse

[-Erios-]

does that mean karin is dead then?
maybe... i hope so cuz we deserve a virgin sacrifice and since Sasuke didnt die well....

[Seraphiel]

does that mean karin is dead then?

Sasuke can extinguish ama,so not necessarily.

[EnvoyofDestiny]

does that mean karin is dead then?

i dont think so it prolly just hurts her. The person who wrote the spoiler ddint say she was dead.

[Itachi_the_Feared_One]

i dont think so it prolly just hurts her. The person who wrote the spoiler ddint say she was dead.

Karin isn't dead all she needs now is anti scar cream to cover all the bite marks, .......oh and a new pair of glasses.

[Seraphiel]

Karin isn't dead all she needs now is anti scar cream to cover all the bite marks, .......oh and a new pair of glasses.

And skin transplant since ama hit her.

For the bitemarks she should come to MacNamraTroy.

[EnvoyofDestiny]

Karin isn't dead all she needs now is anti scar cream to cover all the bite marks, .......oh and a new pair of glasses.

I like how her chakra heals other people through holes in her skin and then they ingest it, but it doesnt heal her as it circulates her body

[Itachi_the_Feared_One]

And skin transplant since ama hit her.

For the bitemarks she should come to MacNamraTroy.

Is Kishi trying to draw a parralel between Naruto and Sasuke, I mean remember naruto was told to refrain from using Kyubi power because it nearly killed Sakura, and now Sasuke exhibits some dangerous power ( Amat ) that according to the latest spoiler nearly barbecued Karin......hum strange coincidence:)
I like how her chakra heals other people through holes in her skin and then they ingest it, but it doesnt heal her as it circulates her body
I'd like to think of Karin as a vampire slave, everytime Sasuke wants to top up his chakra level, karin bends over! sexy...goth..me like it.

[SpikeUchiha]

maybe... i hope so cuz we deserve a virgin sacrifice and since Sasuke didnt die well....

if i was with a girl with so many bite marks and she wanted me to bite her id doubt she is a virgin

[Itachi_the_Feared_One]

if i was with a girl with so many bite marks and she wanted me to bite her id doubt she is a virgin

something tells me that the other bite marks on karin's body are from Orochimaru.....

[-Erios-]

something tells me that the other bite marks on karin's body are from Orochimaru.....

I doubt only from oro maybe also from some of the guys that were "captured" ahh now this all makes sense on why karin didnt want to leave that place at first...

[SpikeUchiha]

*creepy*i feel bad for her now....i saw that sasuske rushed over to her and ask her if she was ok...i think he may like her..

[mandelak]

well i hope she died, but i do think she isnt dead just injured. this is probably sasukes first official win over someone or something and wtf it just had to be the 8 tails lol. that just goes to show that these creatures arent as strong as we know they are supposed to be. at least let it get injured and have the biju chakra burn out the rest of it. i mean where does that leave naruto if he gets touched by it lol. kishi will have to think of a good way to get naruto to dodge or extinguish it before they fight. coz that being used on naruto is certain. maybe a counter to (A) is what itachi gave naruto.

I'm hoping that is the only jutsu sasuke got from itachi

[Itachi_the_Feared_One]

I'm hoping that is the only jutsu sasuke got from itachi

I doubt it, according to madara Itachi transfered all his eye techniques to Sasuke, but that's not really what matters, what really matters is, what is the ultimate power of Sharingan once EMS is achieved? I can't think of something bigger and mightier than Susanoo........

[EnvoyofDestiny]

I doubt it, according to madara Itachi transfered all his eye techniques to Sasuke, but that's not really what matters, what really matters is, what is the ultimate power of Sharingan once EMS is achieved? I can't think of something bigger and mightier than Susanoo........

A space time jutsu that surpasses the 4th? i hope thats not it, but it seems like a possibility of that being the ems tech.

[-Erios-]

see now with EMS i think that not even Rinnegan can keep up i mean we know more about EMS than we actually know about the most power full eye (rinnegan)I dont know what kishi is going to come up after seen how mighty EMS actually is...??
he is gonna have to do ALOT of thinking...

[mandelak]

I'm hoping sasuke at least starts seeing the downside of MS and has already started losing his vision. i think madara purposely keeps the eyes knowing sasuke will come back for them and i think this will be it.

[EnvoyofDestiny]

yeah i think ur right maybe he will realize he is endangering his team's lives over some bullshit, about not seeing what itachi sees. Or out of respect for some dead tissue.

[the lost shinobi]

Sasuke wins again... god this is getting ridiculous

[blind]

Sasuke wins again... god this is getting ridiculous

Honestly, did you expect anything else? Before he acheives everything he's said he would, there's no way he'll die.

[Herumor]

see now with EMS i think that not even Rinnegan can keep up i mean we know more about EMS than we actually know about the most power full eye (rinnegan)I dont know what kishi is going to come up after seen how mighty EMS actually is...??
he is gonna have to do ALOT of thinking...

I agree! The Rinnegan is supposed to be the most powerful of the three great doujutsu, but the EMS is flipping crazy. But if Kishi has his precious Uchiha child, I think the Rinnegan will be glossed over >.<

Honestly, did you expect anything else? Before he acheives everything he's said he would, there's no way he'll die.


I'd at least like the 8TJ to put up a fight against Amaterasu . . .

[blind]

I'd at least like the 8TJ to put up a fight against Amaterasu . . .

He doesn't have to, consider that that's his final jutsu. Killer Bee already did his damage on Sasuke and Team Hawk, and made him seem vulnerable. Now that Sasuke has shown off his MS, the Killer Bee's purpose has been served.

[8thHokage]

but do you think the raikage is gonna let the 2nd most powerful ninja in the village get taken without a fight? i doubt it

[lurntoospel]

ok lets see, weve alreay seen EMS fall to the First an as far as it stands right now... unless you happened to train the rinnegan when he was younger and happened to come across the ninjas that are being used for bodies AND be strong enough to find out the secret AND continue fighting (so much stronger than Jman) then you cant beat rinnegan. So rinnegan still holds first. and lets think about it like this: the 8-tails has effectively brought up a counter to tsu that naruto may be able to use. And if sasuke could dodge ama then hermit mode naruto should be able to do so with ease. seems like theyre running pretty equal to me

[Veni]

Sasuke didn't DODGE Amaterasu, he took the hit and did Oro's Kawarimi.

[emrahsungu]

how come the 8tails cant owerpower ameterasu. i mean i got hit and he is down.lol.

[CheerUp]

I think 8tj just ain't as lucky as Naruto will be, when he got hit with Amaterasu.

We'll just be informed that when Jman stored a small part of Amaterasu, he gave it to some Konoha specialists, and they will find a counter, or at least some alleviation to its effects.

Blind is right .. unfortunately 8tj just served his purpose. But I am a bit dissapointed that he can fall that easily against an Uchiha. Hope he'll still put up a good fight.

I can't imagine Itachi to have given Naruto Amaterasu counter. He prolly gave him Tsukuyomi counter.

PS: Raikage can't do anything about his brother's defeat/death. He can't put his life and his village in danger. What he can do is avenge his brother by helping Konoha when Pain arrives ...

[,,,^.^,,,]

but do you think the raikage is gonna let the 2nd most powerful ninja in the village get taken without a fight? i doubt it

like they did for the two tails? dont forget the jinchuuriki are supposed to be ostracised by everyone. they're probably happy when they're gone. I doubt this is the end of the 8 tails. Why mention his brother if they're not gonna give him a lil backstory..

[Lazy]

So with one hit Sasuke defeated a giant and really powerful beast ? This is ridiculous. But it does make sense, this is Sasuke we're talking about. Anyway Kishi better make Naruto really strong after this. I mean really really strong. I'm also glad Sasuke is getting this strong, cuz that means Naruto will be even stronger. Sasuke biting dust in front of Naruto. Man...I can't wait...

[blind]

but do you think the raikage is gonna let the 2nd most powerful ninja in the village get taken without a fight? i doubt it

My point is that he already put up the fight. And while it's true that he could have showed us more, the Killer Bee has already shown us his true form, and also his sword techniques, and unless Kishi wants to risk killing Sasuke by showing us more of the Bee, I doubt he'll show much else (assuming there are no reinforcements that is).

[GSX]

whats the point of complaining about sasuke, when he lived in konoha naruto was stronger than him, all the way, know he gets to win some people and you all just complain about it, grow up hes as important as naruto in this series and you all know. Everybody knew that amaterasu is one of the strongest ninjutsus in naruto, how do you think it wouldnt overcome 8tj? he was in his beast form, if he would have stayed in his human form, it would have been different everybody knows that. Plus naruto have like 3 or 4 instant kill jutsus. SO FUKING QUIT COMPLAINING

cheers

[Erotique]

whats the point of complaining about sasuke, when he lived in konoha naruto was stronger than him

Not according to their outcome, during the Valley of the End...

hes as important as naruto in this series and you all know.

Sure. Afterall, he IS one of the main character...

Everybody knew that amaterasu is one of the strongest ninjutsus in naruto, how do you think it wouldnt overcome 8tj? he was in his beast form, if he would have stayed in his human form, it would have been different everybody knows that.

It is NOT the power of Amaterasu that we have in doubt, but the style of Kishi's illustration... Naruto literally worked his ass off trying to master FRS and he truly earned it, while Kishi literally "threw in" Amaterasu on Sasuke as a freebee...

Plus naruto have like 3 or 4 instant kill jutsus.

Only instant kill jutsu that Naruto have atm, is his FRS and FRS only. While Sasuke on the other hand...

SO FUKING QUIT COMPLAINING

Perhaps their complaints isn't just a bandwagon... Maybe there actually are reasons why they complain. If it irritates you, I have a thing that just might solve your little irritation:











LEARN TO IGNORE





and yes... CHEERS~

[EnvoyofDestiny]

ahahah the new spoiler has Karin in the water, on fire. Priceless.

[papfles]

My point is that he already put up the fight. And while it's true that he could have showed us more, the Killer Bee has already shown us his true form, and also his sword techniques, and unless Kishi wants to risk killing Sasuke by showing us more of the Bee, I doubt he'll show much else (assuming there are no reinforcements that is).

The problem is that the 8-tails had no reason to go all out like this. He was pwning them left and right in his regular form. The only reason he went beast-form is because Kishi wanted to show the form and then allow for a sasuke-win.

Good for sasuke that he managed to control Amaterasu this time (although Kishi tries to downplay his skill by having Karin be hit as well...), but the power-differences are a bit beyond reason (even within a manga).

4T kyuubi's blast needed the gates of rashomon to be stopped (and even then...), by a superior shinobi (orochimaru).

Suigetsu just go watery and he stops a chakra blast by the full-blown, fully-under-control 8tails, and only goes wobbly?

Yeah... nice writing kishi...

[boszz]

well i think i will dislike this chapter abit because 8tails shouldnt be beaten so quick after changing to 8 tails.We saw that amaterasu failed in the past but now in a moment Beat the second strongest beast .Even thought it was oblivious that 8 tails would be catched the way kishi does it is a bit..ridiculous.at last let amaterasu kill karin..otherwise i dont see any point in this fight ( i'd say i'd be more happy if this fight was skipped and we would see only results of this instead of fight more narutos training)

[wind33]

whats the point of complaining about sasuke, when he lived in konoha naruto was stronger than him, all the way, know he gets to win some people and you all just complain about it, grow up hes as important as naruto in this series and you all know. Everybody knew that amaterasu is one of the strongest ninjutsus in naruto, how do you think it wouldnt overcome 8tj? he was in his beast form, if he would have stayed in his human form, it would have been different everybody knows that. Plus naruto have like 3 or 4 instant kill jutsus. SO FUKING QUIT COMPLAINING

cheersThe real problem is that the nine bijuus were made out to be the strongest forces in the NaruVerse having the power of nature itself. Strong enough to bring down entire villages without much effort..Now Kishi is asking us to believe that one shinobi i.e. Sauske, can bring down that force with just an eye technique...How do you validate the Bijuus being the strongest force in NaruVerse if they can be beaten so easily? And the truth about Naruto is this...His entire life he's been, let's just say less than great at most aspect of being a good shinobi but through everything he's been able to use sure will in order to protect the ones he loves...That, in my humble opinion, is what Kishi is trying to illustrate throughout the Naruto series...Now i personally like Sauske. I look forward to the day when He, Sakura and Naruto will be among the strongest shinobi ever fighting side by side like they did when they were young...I just can't believe that Kishi would give Sauske a cheap win like this one...it's like he doesn't need help to defeat anyone aside from a few healing jutsu from his team, that is...It just doesn't ring true for most of us and that's where, i think, people are having the most problems...

[Sparda]

Sasuke's win was cheap, badly illustrated, and fanboyish. Period. No mistake about it.

But what really bothers me is Naruto's part where he says he might be able to at last do that(refers to that technique i think).

Basically there is a technique that Naruto knows but can't pull off. He learned that technique while he didn't know Senjutsu. Now since he has senjutsu he thinks he can pull it off. Sounds like something that might combine Kyuubi and Senjutsu to me.

It could be some sort of a Hermit+Kyuubi hybrid mode? Imagine a half frog half fox form. Lol that would be hilarioussssssssssss.

[GSX]

Not according to their outcome, during the Valley of the End...



Sure. Afterall, he IS one of the main character...



It is NOT the power of Amaterasu that we have in doubt, but the style of Kishi's illustration... Naruto literally worked his ass off trying to master FRS and he truly earned it, while Kishi literally "threw in" Amaterasu on Sasuke as a freebee...



Only instant kill jutsu that Naruto have atm, is his FRS and FRS only. While Sasuke on the other hand...



Perhaps their complaints isn't just a bandwagon... Maybe there actually are reasons why they complain. If it irritates you, I have a thing that just might solve your little irritation:











LEARN TO IGNORE





and yes... CHEERS~

ok naruto got, rasengan, oodama rasengan, the big rasengan with some tails, frs... plus the "That Jutsu". And yes i should keep ignoring but i dont know why it pisses me off lol, u dont like what u read or see, then just dont complain and dont read the manga....... im talkin in general.



The real problem is that the nine bijuus were made out to be the strongest forces in the NaruVerse having the power of nature itself. Strong enough to bring down entire villages without much effort..Now Kishi is asking us to believe that one shinobi i.e. Sauske, can bring down that force with just an eye technique...How do you validate the Bijuus being the strongest force in NaruVerse if they can be beaten so easily? And the truth about Naruto is this...His entire life he's been, let's just say less than great at most aspect of being a good shinobi but through everything he's been able to use sure will in order to protect the ones he loves...That, in my humble opinion, is what Kishi is trying to illustrate throughout the Naruto series...Now i personally like Sauske. I look forward to the day when He, Sakura and Naruto will be among the strongest shinobi ever fighting side by side like they did when they were young...I just can't believe that Kishi would give Sauske a cheap win like this one...it's like he doesn't need help to defeat anyone aside from a few healing jutsu from his team, that is...It just doesn't ring true for most of us and that's where, i think, people are having the most problems...


1. well u should then sue kishimoto, since akatsuki easily fought 1 on 1 with all the rest of the bijuus.

2. It was stated from the begining that sasuke was a genius and naruto wasn't.

3. Cheap win? my point is this: 8tj almost kill sasuke 2 times, his comrades helped him, wheres the cheap win? we talkin bout amaterasu a technique that could cut out one of jiraiyas prission techniques? so if itachi would have come and throw tsukiyomi, then amaterasu on 8tj it would be great rite? it wasnt a cheap win rite? so its kinda the same, sasuke was trained for raiton techniques, but guess what he got a bloodline limit, so overall he have more benefits and even though, he didnt have a cheap win. Now what, naruto have all those jutsus i stated before, and im not even counting the sage techniques he'll get now. So where do we go? I can understand the the types of sasuke have give's him more advantages, kirin can hit always as stated so far, and thats a great power but. I think he needs some weather modifiers that he wont get often. FRS can be done whenever naruto wants, plus naruto got a huge chakra pool, and we can keep all day comparing. They are 2 different types of shinobi, and both excels in them category.

Cheers.

PS: Erosannin and everyone else sorry if i was rude or disrespected you, wasnt my intention.

CHEERS

[papfles]

1. well u should then sue kishimoto, since akatsuki easily fought 1 on 1 with all the rest of the bijuus.

Deidara took on Gaara, still lost an arm during the fight, and while he had to use the village as a tactic to get Gaara down.

two-tails was a combined effort by Kakuzu - Hidan

3-tails: doubleteam by Deidara - Tobi

4-tails: taken on by Kisame if I'm not mistaken (man with HUUUUUUUUUUUUUUGE chakra pool, therefore possible to keep drowning the opponent in massive jutsus)

5: no idea (or was this the one Kisame took on, in that case: no idea about the 4-tailed beast)

6: no idea

7: no idea

8: Team-based effort lost out BIG time against the 8-tails. He then transforms into an even stronger form (his released form) and succumbs to a "whaa whaa, I need a whaambulance"-move by sasuke? Okay then...

9: hasn't been caught yet.

That brings the total of 1-on-1 captures up to ... 2? With this one counting as a third (even though they had to work as a team to avoid getting killed, meaning it's not even a 1-on-1).

2. It was stated from the begining that sasuke was a genius and naruto wasn't.

Sasuke = genious in the strict sense of the word. Naruto in the hardworking sense. Besides, both of them fade into nothingness against Itachi for example (Sasuke even more so, since Itachi is in his category of "genious")

[dharq]

my problem with the whole ama scenario is simple... sasuke's got no practice with it. he shouldn't know how to control it. he shouldn't be able to dictate how strong it is or whether or not it stops. itachi implanted the technique, so i understand him having it, but he should have no level of mastery over it at all.

cheap ass, weak fanboi stunt by kishi. pathetic end to what shaped up to be a really good fight. it would've been much cooler for ama to have brought the 8tj down a notch and then let he and sasuke go at it more. would've been cool, and believable. now? not so much.

oh, and karin should die from it.

[Murdock]

The thing i am curious about is why Naruto has those eyes even thoe he isn't molding sage chakra ... he looks good just asking since those dots aren't on his head like before ... but it might be that they are not visible and covered with hair ...

[dharq]

do we know he isn't using sage chakra at that point? maybe he's to a point where he's continually drawing on it and trying to balance it out with his other chakra now that he can sense it? maybe he's trying to perfect it.

[Herumor]

I think 8tj just ain't as lucky as Naruto will be, when he got hit with Amaterasu.

We'll just be informed that when Jman stored a small part of Amaterasu, he gave it to some Konoha specialists, and they will find a counter, or at least some alleviation to its effects.

Naruto didn't get hit with Amaterasu, Itachi did that to blast a hole in the Toad stomach.

He doesn't have to, consider that that's his final jutsu. Killer Bee already did his damage on Sasuke and Team Hawk, and made him seem vulnerable. Now that Sasuke has shown off his MS, the Killer Bee's purpose has been served.

That being said, I still would have liked the 8TJ to put up a fight. . .

like they did for the two tails? dont forget the jinchuuriki are supposed to be ostracised by everyone. they're probably happy when they're gone. I doubt this is the end of the 8 tails. Why mention his brother if they're not gonna give him a lil backstory..

Because Saus-gay is the new focus of the manga, it should be re-named >.<

whats the point of complaining about sasuke, when he lived in konoha naruto was stronger than him, all the way, know he gets to win some people and you all just complain about it, grow up hes as important as naruto in this series and you all know. Everybody knew that amaterasu is one of the strongest ninjutsus in naruto, how do you think it wouldnt overcome 8tj? he was in his beast form, if he would have stayed in his human form, it would have been different everybody knows that. Plus naruto have like 3 or 4 instant kill jutsus. SO FUKING QUIT COMPLAINING

cheers

I'll give a plain simple no. Sauske did defeat Naruto at the valley of the end, so was Naruto still stronger? And the only 'instant-kill' Jutsu I can think that Naruto has is the FRS. The regular Rasengan was used on Kabuto who survived, and I don't remember seeing Naruto using the Oodama Rasengan. Honestly I'd like to see Sauske loose, and have his pride take a nose dive . . .

[EnvoyofDestiny]

The reason why Karin's burning is because a burnt octopus leg hit her.

that spoiler made me lol. I stand by my first impression. This fight wasn't my favorite, but judging by the way it was going, this was a good way to end it. If ama hadn't work that wouldn't of made sense to me and that was all sasuke and co had left.


Oodama killed the itachi clone. Herumor

[wind33]

[/QOUTE]
1. well u should then sue kishimoto, since akatsuki easily fought 1 on 1 with all the rest of the bijuus.

2. It was stated from the begining that sasuke was a genius and naruto wasn't.

3. Cheap win? my point is this: 8tj almost kill sasuke 2 times, his comrades helped him, wheres the cheap win? we talkin bout amaterasu a technique that could cut out one of jiraiyas prission techniques? so if itachi would have come and throw tsukiyomi, then amaterasu on 8tj it would be great rite? it wasnt a cheap win rite? so its kinda the same, sasuke was trained for raiton techniques, but guess what he got a bloodline limit, so overall he have more benefits and even though, he didnt have a cheap win. Now what, naruto have all those jutsus i stated before, and im not even counting the sage techniques he'll get now. So where do we go? I can understand the the types of sasuke have give's him more advantages, kirin can hit always as stated so far, and thats a great power but. I think he needs some weather modifiers that he wont get often. FRS can be done whenever naruto wants, plus naruto got a huge chakra pool, and we can keep all day comparing. They are 2 different types of shinobi, and both excels in them category.

Cheers.

PS: Erosannin and everyone else sorry if i was rude or disrespected you, wasnt my intention.

CHEERS[/QUOTE]I'm sorry but you're arguments are flawwed in so many ways, i dont' know where to begin.1. The Akasuki memebers are all elite shinobi that have been training long and hard to master the techniques that they possess.(again Sauske has been given evey jutsu that he has in his arsenal with the exception of Great fireball & Chidori that he learned from Kakashi). He has yet to show any reason why he should possess any of the Jutsu that Itachi gave him, they were just handed to him without any work involved...The other jutsu that he has was given to him by Oro...
2. If Sauske was such a genious in the begging why didn't he dementrate his genious like Itachi did when he was Sauske's age...Itachi was already a Anbu Captain by the time he was 13 yrs old.
3.You're saying that it wasn't a cheap win because Sauske was "Almost" killed twice... I'm saying it was a cheap win because The 8tj was stomping the whole Team Hawk in his human form and now when he's supposed to be at his strongest he's beaten by a already beaten down Sauske, that you admit almost died twice... How many shinobi do you know that are at the brink of death not once but twice and can still beat an enemy that is stronger in every way then they are? I can't understand how that makes sence to you...Clearly your in love with Sauske just as much as Kishi is and that's why you can't see it...You're blinded by love...lol. And i gotta tell ya, if you're a guy then you really should consider tell your family you're gay and just come out of the closet...All we're saying is that make the fight make sence we all know that Sauske was going to come out of this one, maybe with few battle scares, but none the worst for wear...We just want the fight to make sence that's all...and the way Kishi's writing it, it doesn't.

[Seraphiel]

The reason why Karin's burning is because a burnt octopus leg hit her.

that spoiler made me lol. I stand by my first impression. This fight wasn't my favorite, but judging by the way it was going, this was a good way to end it. If ama hadn't work that wouldn't of made sense to me and that was all sasuke and co had left.


Oodama killed the itachi clone. Herumor

Yep I was like wth :D.

And Sasuke is awesome he an *dual wield* Ama,cast with right,put out with left eye all at the same time :D

[GSX]

I'm sorry but you're arguments are flawwed in so many ways, i dont' know where to begin.1. The Akasuki memebers are all elite shinobi that have been training long and hard to master the techniques that they possess.(again Sauske has been given evey jutsu that he has in his arsenal with the exception of Great fireball & Chidori that he learned from Kakashi). He has yet to show any reason why he should possess any of the Jutsu that Itachi gave him, they were just handed to him without any work involved...The other jutsu that he has was given to him by Oro...
2. If Sauske was such a genious in the begging why didn't he dementrate his genious like Itachi did when he was Sauske's age...Itachi was already a Anbu Captain by the time he was 13 yrs old.
3.You're saying that it wasn't a cheap win because Sauske was "Almost" killed twice... I'm saying it was a cheap win because The 8tj was stomping the whole Team Hawk in his human form and now when he's supposed to be at his strongest he's beaten by a already beaten down Sauske, that you admit almost died twice... How many shinobi do you know that are at the brink of death not once but twice and can still beat an enemy that is stronger in every way then they are? I can't understand how that makes sence to you...Clearly your in love with Sauske just as much as Kishi is and that's why you can't see it...You're blinded by love...lol. And i gotta tell ya, if you're a guy then you really should consider tell your family you're gay and just come out of the closet...All we're saying is that make the fight make sence we all know that Sauske was going to come out of this one, maybe with few battle scares, but none the worst for wear...We just want the fight to make sence that's all...and the way Kishi's writing it, it doesn't.

1. The Akasuki memebers are all elite shinobi that have been training long and hard to master the techniques that they possess.

Yes so elite, that all konoha shinobis killed most of them rite? so if a shinobi can kill this ELITE, cant they kill the jinchurikis?

2. Itachi's love gave sasuke MS
Minato's love gave naruto Kyubi

3. when 8tj was in human form and everyone was attacking 1 on 1 he was powning, but when hawk attacked as a team what happened?

4. should u know u cant come here telling people what you want, as i said in my posts, im sorry if i was rude or disrespected someone. you should think of gettin some parents so u can begin acting as a human. get a personality, you are just following everyones else thoughts. youre the type of person that agree with with what everyone else agree with.


Peace

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And Sasuke is awesome he an *dual wield* Ama,cast with right,put out with left eye all at the same time :D

it may be possible that, he uses some sort of space/time genjutus or jutsu to extinguish flames. anyways its just i thought i have

cheers

[blind]

That being said, I still would have liked the 8TJ to put up a fight. . .


I guess you're talking specifically about Sasuke putting up a fight against Amaterasu then, because he's shown us his abilities even aside from his beast form.

[papfles]

I guess you're talking specifically about Sasuke putting up a fight against Amaterasu then, because he's shown us his abilities even aside from his beast form.

So you're saying that the 8-tails has shown us his abilities? :-/

he has shown us sword moves, not being harmed even when hit, 8tails-mode. highly unlikely that this is his arsenal...

[wind33]

1. The Akasuki memebers are all elite shinobi that have been training long and hard to master the techniques that they possess.

Yes so elite, that all konoha shinobis killed most of them rite? so if a shinobi can kill this ELITE, cant they kill the jinchurikis?

2. Itachi's love gave sasuke MS
Minato's love gave naruto Kyubi

3. when 8tj was in human form and everyone was attacking 1 on 1 he was powning, but when hawk attacked as a team what happened?

4. should u know u cant come here telling people what you want, as i said in my posts, im sorry if i was rude or disrespected someone. you should think of gettin some parents so u can begin acting as a human. get a personality, you are just following everyones else thoughts. youre the type of person that agree with with what everyone else agree with.


Peace

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it may be possible that, he uses some sort of space/time genjutus or jutsu to extinguish flames. anyways its just i thought i have

cheersI beg to pardon...you're the one who's the follower here..All you care about is the advancement of your beloved Sauske and a flare for the dramatic...I simply want the story line to make sence and all you want is for Sauske to be the strongest Shinobi ever but I have news for you..Naruto is destined to be the strongest and he'll get there with hard work and determination not spells and potions like Sauske...But i guess when Naruto finally ownes Sauske is their next fight you'll just start crying "it's not fair"...lol
But don't worry after naruto cleans the floor with your lover he'll welcome him back as his brother and best friend and he'll have to settle with being the second best shinobi after Naruto..Just like Madara was to the first Hokage...Sorry to burst your bubble...

P.S. I have a great family and they have raised a very intellegent and successful son.

[Hellspawn0707]

I agree that the battle was 1 sided in the 8 tails favor then with 1 sucessful attack the 2nd most powerful Bijuu is taken down, it doesn't make much sense either. But we have seen before that the Bijuu's can be defeated so it shouldn't have been entirely unexpected.

[Seraphiel]

1. The Akasuki memebers are all elite shinobi that have been training long and hard to master the techniques that they possess.

Yes so elite, that all konoha shinobis killed most of them rite? so if a shinobi can kill this ELITE, cant they kill the jinchurikis?

2. Itachi's love gave sasuke MS
Minato's love gave naruto Kyubi

3. when 8tj was in human form and everyone was attacking 1 on 1 he was powning, but when hawk attacked as a team what happened?

4. should u know u cant come here telling people what you want, as i said in my posts, im sorry if i was rude or disrespected someone. you should think of gettin some parents so u can begin acting as a human. get a personality, you are just following everyones else thoughts. youre the type of person that agree with with what everyone else agree with.


Peace

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it may be possible that, he uses some sort of space/time genjutus or jutsu to extinguish flames. anyways its just i thought i have

cheers

Actually he just did the same as itachi turned them off,but he turned them off while casting the other flames on 8tails.

[GSX]

mmm wasnt it stated that, once amaterasu is activated where the eye goes, flame will appear? im to lazy to read the manga again lol

[~ RockSter ~]

mmm wasnt it stated that, once amaterasu is activated where the eye goes, flame will appear? im to lazy to read the manga again lol

Yeah this is right
why ?

[WjRgX]

I agree that the battle was 1 sided in the 8 tails favor then with 1 sucessful attack the 2nd most powerful Bijuu is taken down, it doesn't make much sense either. But we have seen before that the Bijuu's can be defeated so it shouldn't have been entirely unexpected.

I'm guessing Madara new that the only way Sauske could beat the 8tj is with MS and thats why he set it up, he wants Sauske to start going blind, be forced to take his brothers eyes and then Madara will take Sauske's EMS. Just a guess though.

[PirUnravel]

I beg to pardon...you're the one who's the follower here..All you care about is the advancement of your beloved Sauske and a flare for the dramatic...I simply want the story line to make sence and all you want is for Sauske to be the strongest Shinobi ever but I have news for you..Naruto is destined to be the strongest and he'll get there with hard work and determination not spells and potions like Sauske...But i guess when Naruto finally ownes Sauske is their next fight you'll just start crying "it's not fair"...lol
But don't worry after naruto cleans the floor with your lover he'll welcome him back as his brother and best friend and he'll have to settle with being the second best shinobi after Naruto..Just like Madara was to the first Hokage...Sorry to burst your bubble...

P.S. I have a great family and they have raised a very intellegent and successful son.


LMFAO - dude what are you talking about??? There are so many delusional people on this board... delusional about Sasuke and everyone's supposed love and lust for him. You are lost, homie.

Oh and you mean "they have raised a very intellIgent and successful son."

^_~


p.s. - I think the fight was pretty funny... if only the 8TJ could have kept his mouth shut and given more action and less words... he may have won!

[Teh Goomba]

Ihe wants Sauske to start going blind, be forced to take his brothers eyes and then Madara will take Sauske's EMS. Just a guess though.

Uh, what do you mean "take" sasuke's EMS? Was it ever implied that the Sharigans have different powers? Nooooo, in fact, it has always been said that you can unlock certain powers from them. Sasuke has only had a short time with his power, why would Madara (who's been alive a VERY long time) need the newbie powers of lowly sasuke?

You guys give him too much credit...:tsk:

[GSX]

Yeah this is right
why ?

someone said that sasuke extinguished the flames over karin, well i just thought it might be another jutsu of sasuke, maybe a space time jutsu like the one he did with manda, anyways we should wait for the manga chapter to come out to see how it was done.

another question is, how will naruto get back to konoha? lol he was summoned to myobukozon (i cant remember how to spell it) mountain haha will he walk back? hell be late for pein.

[EnvoyofDestiny]

Uh, what do you mean "take" sasuke's EMS? Was it ever implied that the Sharigans have different powers? Nooooo, in fact, it has always been said that you can unlock certain powers from them. Sasuke has only had a short time with his power, why would Madara (who's been alive a VERY long time) need the newbie powers of lowly sasuke?

You guys give him too much credit...:tsk:

something about returning his eyes to how they should be. His power uchiha Madara's power?

[~ RockSter ~]

something about returning his eyes to how they should be. His power uchiha Madara's power?

well if it has something to do with his eyes is unknown.
it's just clear that he wants to restore his powers.
Either his eyes ,his body ( maybe since he's over 100 years old xD)
or or just his chakra ( everything is possible, look at Sarutobi, it was said that his chakra wasn't that much in his last fight than years ago .)

[nagato]

I'm guessing Madara new that the only way Sauske could beat the 8tj is with MS and thats why he set it up, he wants Sauske to start going blind, be forced to take his brothers eyes and then Madara will take Sauske's EMS. Just a guess though.

FINALLY someone with the same idea as me. it seems somewhat possible that madara is forcing sasuke to get ems so that he can get ems from sasuke after loosing it when he summoned kyuubi to attack konoha.

[EnvoyofDestiny]

well if it has something to do with his eyes is unknown.
it's just clear that he wants to restore his powers.
Either his eyes ,his body ( maybe since he's over 100 years old xD)
or or just his chakra ( everything is possible, look at Sarutobi, it was said that his chakra wasn't that much in his last fight than years ago .)

Well something is prolly up with at least one eye. He is covering it after all. I hope its not for aesthetic reasons. Also he said the sharingan's true power.

[Seraphiel]

someone said that sasuke extinguished the flames over karin, well i just thought it might be another jutsu of sasuke, maybe a space time jutsu like