Naruto Chapter 413 Spoilers Discussion

[blind]

Discuss spoilers/pictures in here.

Post spoilers in here (http://forum.narutochaos.com/showthread.php?p=713747).

That is all.

[blind]

Thanks for the picture and script. Picture looks awfully clean to be a real picture and the script just seems...fake. :p

[mandelak]

lol the script was lame lol and the pic was to funny to be real i mean jirayas hair. wtf lol. but good enough to read. thanks

[blind]

I thought the Oro eyes were pretty funny too, but yeah, fake.

[Dream Catcher]

Fake.. that is my ruling.

But yea... MS mode... and flying... and all that

[Seraphiel]

LOL according to the spoiler Sasuke is Goku.

[Csdabest]

100 dollars to the person who successfuly destorys that persons computer and see they never touch another Keyboard again. But it was a good laugh

[S.Haze]

The spoiler picture seems too clean like Blind said and the script says Sasuke flying lol, he lost CS meaning he can't fly.

[yasuo]

You have no power over me, 8Tails. I now understand why I am
here. I made a promise and I'm here to keep it. Today, I put my past
behind me.

i don't understand why he is there... get the hell out of the anime :P


...enveloped by a golden light
as he transforms into MS Sasuke

that sounds like dragonball :biggrin1:
this is realy a fake...!

I AM - Sasuke's true power confronts 5 tails

-.-
i hope the 8tj isn't so easy to defeat like the title of the next chapter says.

[PirUnravel]

lol @ the spoiler where absolutely nothing happens.


p.s. - did you guys notice -- Shippuuden is finally done with the filler and is returning to the manga -- last episode showed the 2-tails! O.o'

EDIT: OK apparently everyone already knows... sorry for bringing in an irrelevant anime point. >.>

[Azzul]

lol @ the spoiler where absolutely nothing happens.


p.s. - did you guys notice -- Shippuuden is finally done with the filler and is returning to the manga -- last episode showed the 2-tails! O.o'

EDIT: OK apparently everyone already knows... sorry for bringing in an irrelevant anime point. >.>

Actually I'm glad the anime is back on point. I've been wanting to see all these up and coming battles we've been discussing in the manga section.

[y.o.]

Actually I'm glad the anime is back on point. I've been wanting to see all these up and coming battles we've been discussing in the manga section.

I agree, even if the fights are over the top from what we see in the mange, its good to see how the fight plays out animated!!

[churchblue]

Holy crap. did you see the pic in the spoiler thread. Naruto has long white hair?!!

[blind]

Holy crap. did you see the pic in the spoiler thread. Naruto has long white hair?!!

It's a fake pic, photoshopped with Oro's eyes and Jiraiya's hair...

[-Erios-]

Dayum!! i see that guy got bored and has no imagination at all a big LOL to the spoiler

[Itachi_the_Feared_One]

Dayum!! i see that guy got bored and has no imagination at all a big LOL to the spoiler

on the contrary, I am quite happy with the spoiler, although it sounded 120% fake, but still was interessting, considering we had to go through a whole week with no manga/spoiler.:thumb:

[-Erios-]

Well yeah it was a good laugh but hopefully later on well start reading some interesting spoilers

[GSX]

wtf, a whole week to end up with this kind of thing, and thx about the anime thing now i can download anime again :D

[PirUnravel]

NP... start with episode 71... and skip to the last 5 minutes. The canon manga resumes with Shika and Asuma playing that game... ^_^

...gonna be intense.

hmmm... I hope we get some decent spoilers tomorrow!!! @_@

[wind33]

LOL according to the spoiler Sasuke is Goku.yeah I thought that part was hilarious as well... What is it like super uchia level 2 or something? Completely fake but interesting to read.

[The_Last_True_Uchiha]

This guy had more than enough time to write something better.. Fake on so many levels..

[Spetznas]

yeah I thought that part was hilarious as well... What is it like super uchia level 2 or something? Completely fake but interesting to read.


Ha I would laugh my ass off if it turned out to be true

[-Erios-]

Well... thats not happening unless kishi goes crazy :p

[Toxic Anarch]

I was thinking we should have a weekly contest here to see who can write the best fake spoilers... The judge would be all of us. I just want to see how close we can come to making a script to the manga, haha.

[blind]

Knock yourself out, but that's what the prediction thread is for...:p

[Dream Catcher]

Where are the spoilers yo... I'm gettin hungry


LOL the new spoiler sounds like half of a spoiler when Yamato and Co were stalking Kabuto on the bridge LOL


Sounds fake because it has NOTHING to do with recent events

[blind]

lol, agreed, thanks for the spoiler anyways.

Didn't realize that Konoha was so ready to go to war, especially when they don't even know what's coming to hit them...

[-Erios-]

that last spoiler....................LOL

seriously WHAT!!! not even a good laugh

[Dream Catcher]

but why did you write LOL?

[-Erios-]

who knows... really

[The_Last_True_Uchiha]

This last spoiler was absolutely terrible.. At least the first spoiler script was more entertaining than this crap.. Folks are too random..

[SutarinShin47]

Whoever wrote that should be read Ezekiel 25:17, then blown away by Samuel Jackson.

[-Erios-]

ahhh.. hopefully in a few hours there will be some "good" spoilers *crossing fingers*

[papfles]

Latest spoiler (5) seems plausible, although I don't like the smile on sasuke's face, as if everything has been planned... (unless it's a cleverly disguised henge by both Karin and Sasuke into each other's persona).

[Hyugumaki]

The last spoiler is interesting though very fake from small issues.

The first is the fact that Naruto "YELLS" at pa toad while covered in oil. Wouldn't the act of moving his lips cause him to start turning into a frog? I mean, who knows what Naruto will do if he has to move in the oil (don't know if its shallow or deep there) and all ready turned into a Gama.

Second, isn't it Gamakichi (whatever it is) there and not Gamabunta. It seems hard for such a big frog to surprise someone like Pa toad.

Too many issues like that in this spoiler.

[papfles]

The last spoiler is interesting though very fake from small issues.

The first is the fact that Naruto "YELLS" at pa toad while covered in oil. Wouldn't the act of moving his lips cause him to start turning into a frog? I mean, who knows what Naruto will do if he has to move in the oil (don't know if its shallow or deep there) and all ready turned into a Gama.

Second, isn't it Gamakichi (whatever it is) there and not Gamabunta. It seems hard for such a big frog to surprise someone like Pa toad.

Too many issues like that in this spoiler.

True, but still...

And your spoiler is promising, but I'm afraid that suigetsu dying is a bit much, especially since he has a date with destiny (Kisame)...

[PirUnravel]

I found 3 spoilers this morning and two were completely ridiculous. The one I posted was the only one that seems remotely possible. I like the idea of Sasuke getting slammed into the mountain and dragged down while getting shocked at the same time though... O.o'''

[-Erios-]

ok so last two spoileres until now are better than the previous ones :p only some parts did I like :p the Naruto is completely covered in oil and building chakra so intense that it is causing a whirlwind around him. Pa toad is impressed but is holding staff and positioned to hit Naruto. Naruto yells at pa toad not to hit him, regardless of what happens. His face begins to change drastically but it isn't a close-up

Gamabunta surprises pa toad and interrupts the training and scene switches by knowing Naruto he might say something like that.... and the suigetsu dying Hmmmmm....better evaporating idk kinda hard to believe

[blind]

Liked that last one, although like paps said, Suigetsu dying kind of takes away the Kisame vs. Suigetsu battle down the line, although Sasuke did mention he wasn't strong enough at the moment anyways.

[Tazuwukei]

Liked that last one, although like paps said, Suigetsu dying kind of takes away the Kisame vs. Suigetsu battle down the line, although Sasuke did mention he wasn't strong enough at the moment anyways.

He somehow gets revived and comes back stronger, supersaiyan complex y'know.. :P

[blind]

He somehow gets revived and comes back stronger, supersaiyan complex y'know.. :P

Possible, but I'm kind of hoping Kishi would kill off the entire Team Hawk, if Suigetsu dies then that'll be one down, 2 to go.

[Tazuwukei]

Suigetsu dies, Jyuggo(whatever his name is) stays at the mountain, and Sasuke nearly dies defeating 8tj and has to devour Karin to recover.

Bye-bye hawk :P

edit: better yet, Karin and Sasuke have to fuse, forming a new being that's in love with himself.. SASGAY XD

[blind]

Suigetsu dies, Jyuggo(whatever his name is) stays at the mountain, and Sasuke nearly dies defeating 8tj and has to devour Karin to recover.

Bye-bye hawk :P

Why would Juugo stay at the mountain? I'm hoping 8TJ wipes out the three of them, weakening him in the process, then Sasuke finishes the job on his own.

[Tazuwukei]

Why would Juugo stay at the mountain? I'm hoping 8TJ wipes out the three of them, weakening him in the process, then Sasuke finishes the job on his own.

He stated that he can feel at ease here, or something. He can control his murderous powers there for some reason?

[blind]

He stated that he can feel at ease here, or something. He can control his murderous powers there for some reason?

He was probably commenting on the scenary, or the fact that Sasuke just used his MS to "control" the guy he was interrogating, so he felt that Sasuke is in complete control with him. That's what I thought anyways.

[Tazuwukei]

This is a good place.... Like I can keep my impulses under control. I can relax.

http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/408/06/

[blind]

http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/408/06/

lol...I know he said that, right after Sasuke showed off his power, that's why he said he could relax...

[Toxic Anarch]

I think Blind is right, thats how I always took Juugo's words, as in he was finally comfortable with himself and that he didn't need to worry about the need to kill someone.

Funny thing though... in the past arc.. as we've seen Juugo... he looks a lot bigger than I remember seeing him in that cell of his.

As for my prediction for this chapter... I don't see Hachibi causing all that many more problems for Sasuke, because if someone like him doesn't have to go into his tail-form... and he can take down someone as jesus-like as Sasuke? What does that say about his counter-part Naruto?

I'm really getting tired of Sasuke being able to increase the gap between Naruto and himself. Blaah... Don't get me wrong, I like seeing Sasuke finally being beaten up a little... but if Sasuke can't over come this... its shitting on Naruto in my opinion.

[Tazuwukei]

lol...I know he said that, right after Sasuke showed off his power, that's why he said he could relax...

Maybe, but then why would he comment on the place and how he feels he can control his impulses? I mean, Sasuke wasn't aiding him with sharingan or anything, right? He's just watching over him and he'll stop him if he enters an uncontrollable state. He naturally felt like he could control himself in this mystical area. The area where Hichibi trains controlling a legendary beast sealed within him...

[Tazuwukei]

if someone like him doesn't have to go into his tail-form... and he can take down someone as jesus-like as Sasuke? What does that say about his counter-part Naruto?

I'm really getting tired of Sasuke being able to increase the gap between Naruto and himself. Blaah... Don't get me wrong, I like seeing Sasuke finally being beaten up a little... but if Sasuke can't over come this... its shitting on Naruto in my opinion.

Well, Naruto will come and defeat Pain with god-power soon, you know it to be true. When that happens, Sasgay will be the one in envy. I totally disagree with you, also- Sasuke was depending on Oros power before, so now he's gimped until he uses MS. MS which we haven't seen in action yet (cept' for a glimpse of what appeared to be tsukinomi.) But we really don't know how powerful Sasukes MS is, nor if he CAN perform Itachi's jutsus or not. 8tj owning a gimped Sasuke that hasn't used MS yet doesn't look like shitting on Naruto to me.

edit: sorry for double post =/

[wind33]

Well, Naruto will come and defeat Pain with god-power soon, you know it to be true. When that happens, Sasgay will be the one in envy. I totally disagree with you, also- Sasuke was depending on Oros power before, so now he's gimped until he uses MS. MS which we haven't seen in action yet (cept' for a glimpse of what appeared to be tsukinomi.) But we really don't know how powerful Sasukes MS is, nor if he CAN perform Itachi's jutsus or not. 8tj owning a gimped Sasuke that hasn't used MS yet doesn't look like shitting on Naruto to me.

edit: sorry for double post =/Why is everyone so concerned with Narutos growth...Pa Toad said it all when he said that true power comes from hard training...Naruto, while having the the 9tj inside him, chose to work hard to become stronger..while Sauske has had help getting stronger all along...So we will see the true power of Uzimaki Naruto in do time...It takes time to be the best...Just think, even though Sauske is stronge now just imagine how much more strong naruto will be...He is the star of the Manga after all.

[Toxic Anarch]

Naruto being the star of the manga is disputable, many would lead you believe that Sasuke and the Uchiha trully are, lol.

But its for that same reason people are outraged. Naruto is supposed to be the main character but all we see from him is weak strategies on the fly, abuse of one technique over and over again untill it works, and on the other hand we have Sasuke who is supposed to be the one Naruto ultimately prevails against. Sasuke isn't just a genius in battle, but he also has incredible lightning manipulation, and this is before Oro even gave him any real power.

All Naruto has to show... is that in the future he might have the sage techniques, that for what have been explained give you a boost in your taijutsu, genjutsu, and ninjutsu. Even so, Jiraiya, with the sage arts, was still killed. It was almost just luck that he killed the one clone.

[wind33]

Naruto being the star of the manga is disputable, many would lead you believe that Sasuke and the Uchiha trully are, lol.

But its for that same reason people are outraged. Naruto is supposed to be the main character but all we see from him is weak strategies on the fly, abuse of one technique over and over again untill it works, and on the other hand we have Sasuke who is supposed to be the one Naruto ultimately prevails against. Sasuke isn't just a genius in battle, but he also has incredible lightning manipulation, and this is before Oro even gave him any real power.

All Naruto has to show... is that in the future he might have the sage techniques, that for what have been explained give you a boost in your taijutsu, genjutsu, and ninjutsu. Even so, Jiraiya, with the sage arts, was still killed. It was almost just luck that he killed the one clone.Well being born into the clan of Uchiha has given Sauske certain advantages but Suaske can't be blamed for what clan he was born into...just like some people are born with physical and mental advantages that most others have to work hard to attain...So i can't be angry at him for that...And besides I think that I read in the Mange that Naruto was the only one in the village capable of hold back the 9tails chakra and that's the reason he was chosen to seal the beast in the first place...that's an advantage as well...But i hope that we will see him performing new jutsu soon though.

And as far as Jaraiya is concerned the only reason why he lost the figt is because he didn't realize Pein's secret until it was to late...

[Dream Catcher]

Yeah, but that one advantage is overshadowed by the whole emo story of the Uchichas.

Nways, last spoiler seems very nice to me :D Suigetsu dead, Karin hopefully dies later, Juugo stays in Kumo and Sasuke goes back empty handed.

One thing I still don't understand... how can Juugo keep his seal under control :confused:

[blind]

One thing I still don't understand... how can Juugo keep his seal under control :confused:

He doesn't, not well anyways. Keep in mind that it's his enzyme that the CS was derived from, so it's likely that it doesn't work the same way than what we've seen from CS.

[Toxic Anarch]

I won't give my hopes up yet... No matter how much I want Suigetsu dead, and the rest of team hawk on the way to devastation... sadly, I can't see a reason why you would introduce us to these characters and just kill them off so soon without giving us one of those touchy background chapters on their life.

I've figured that Karin gives Juugo some kind of depressant like Opium to keep his anger and powers under control. [Serious face]

[wind33]

One thing I still don't understand... how can Juugo keep his seal under control :confused:Maybe it's got something to do with him being around Suaske...He does have to power to control Juugo's cs2, doesn't he?

[Dream Catcher]

He doesn't, not well anyways. Keep in mind that it's his enzyme that the CS was derived from, so it's likely that it doesn't work the same way than what we've seen from CS.

Yes he does. In one of the panels it's half covering him and he uses it pretty much freely...

Don't you remember when he used to get his episodes he went all crazy and he was like "I want blood" or something weird like that.

Now he acts all normal and is even capable of a team effort... totally goes against what he was in the beginning

[Seraphiel]

Yes he does. In one of the panels it's half covering him and he uses it pretty much freely...

Don't you remember when he used to get his episodes he went all crazy and he was like "I want blood" or something weird like that.

Now he acts all normal and is even capable of a team effort... totally goes against what he was in the beginning

No those where killing impulses,they triggered cs 2,cs2 didn't trigger them,and we can see him use it freely before the sasu vs dei fight.

[Toxic Anarch]

Its the drugs.

Damn youth these days... experimenting with drugs that Orochimaru calls "candy"...

[Dream Catcher]

Oh really? Show me?

[blind]

Yes he does. In one of the panels it's half covering him and he uses it pretty much freely...

Don't you remember when he used to get his episodes he went all crazy and he was like "I want blood" or something weird like that.

Now he acts all normal and is even capable of a team effort... totally goes against what he was in the beginning

lol, yes, but Oro's CS comes from his enzymes, who's to say that those enzyme work exactly the same way that CS does, control wise? The effects may be the same, but the mechanism as to how it's control is probably different. For one, the concentation of the enzyme would be greater in Juugo than CS. There could possibly be something in his body that allows him to keep it in check, while CS needs a seal to actually do that.

[wind33]

Yes he does. In one of the panels it's half covering him and he uses it pretty much freely...

Don't you remember when he used to get his episodes he went all crazy and he was like "I want blood" or something weird like that.

Now he acts all normal and is even capable of a team effort... totally goes against what he was in the beginningThat's true and also why I believe that because he's been hanging around Sauske he's been learning how to control himself better with Sauske's sharingun help.

[Dream Catcher]

lol, yes, but Oro's CS comes from his enzymes, who's to say that those enzyme work exactly the same way that CS does, control wise? The effects may be the same, but the mechanism as to how it's control is probably different. For one, the concentation of the enzyme would be greater in Juugo than CS. There could possibly be something in his body that allows him to keep it in check, while CS needs a seal to actually do that.

Out of all people you should know that you can't control how enzymes work. MAYBE if you learn to control your anger or w/e, but in this case CS was triggered by fighting and violence and up to now he was starting to go crazy every time he was someone fighting and now he is just all happy-go-lucky using his CS like he's a master pokemon trainer.

We were never told that he could keep it in check, why all of a sudden bring it up like this without explanation.

The only thing I can think of is Juugo saying that Kumo is peaceful and he feels at ease (or w/e he said when they arrived)

Otherwise it's plot hole galore

[Seraphiel]

Oh really? Show me?

http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/355/12/

http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/355/13/

Activates it willingly no I want to kill shouts.

[Dream Catcher]

Poor example... we don't know what the birds told him or maybe he saw something or maybe he sensed someone

but fine, even that example...how do you explain him controlling it so freely when he couldn't control it before?

[Seraphiel]

Poor example... we don't know what the birds told him or maybe he saw something or maybe he sensed someone

but fine, even that example...how do you explain him controlling it so freely when he couldn't control it before?

He could,he could not control his killing impulses and when he went nuts he activated cs,he didnt activate cs then go nuts.

[wind33]

http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/355/12/

http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/355/13/

Activates it willingly no I want to kill shouts.So what he's a animal whisperer now? That doesn't prove that he could control it at that time...but now he seems to have it all under control and not just attacking at random...He even working as a team...just doesn't make since...

[Seraphiel]

So what he's a animal whisperer now? That doesn't prove that he could control it at that time...but now he seems to have it all under control and not just attacking at random...He even working as a team...just doesn't make since...

sense*

and yes it does read my other posts.

[Toxic Anarch]

What doesn't make sense to me... is if Orochimaru had such talent hidden somewhere in one of his caves... why didn't he use them more in the konoha attack, besides the obvious storyline reasons.

I mean wouldn't Suigetsu or Karin be a lot more affective than say those random sound ninja?

Personally, if I was focusing my forces on taking down an entire nation and I was serious about it, I would give it my all and use a strategy that used all of my weapons that I have possible.

Karin at least.

[Dream Catcher]

http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/349/09/

http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/349/17/ << It's activated now, so what? He just wants to kill

http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/350/16/

http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/351/16/


Those pages kinda defeat the whole purpose of Juugo being "sane" now

[Hellspawn0707]

Juugo is too unreliable and could attack his teammates at any time, plus Suigetsu wanted to kill Oro so he too probably would've defected as well.

[Toxic Anarch]

I can understand not taking Juugo, and even Suigetsu, but as Karin showed she's reliable and can come in handy. Oro should know how much a medic contributes to the team as he had one of the best in the world on his own team when he was still a konoha nin.

I still think Karin would be a good choice. Especially since Kabuto can't do everything.

Just my opinion though.

[letsrock0303]

I believe that when Sasuke went around and assembled his squad they went over the fact that Sasuke was going behind Oro's back and befriend these people. And the reason Oro kept them locked up was because he couldn't control them.

The attack on Konoha was supposed to be a very planned out and precise thing and for that he didn't need extreme power. He needed intelligence. Sasuke doesn't need intelligence he needs blind subservience

[blind]

Out of all people you should know that you can't control how enzymes work. MAYBE if you learn to control your anger or w/e, but in this case CS was triggered by fighting and violence and up to now he was starting to go crazy every time he was someone fighting and now he is just all happy-go-lucky using his CS like he's a master pokemon trainer.

We were never told that he could keep it in check, why all of a sudden bring it up like this without explanation.

It's a specualtion, because he's shown to be able to do so, the entire time that he isn't going nuts, that could be because of something he has inside of him that keeps it under control, otherwise he'd be completely out of control all the time.


The only thing I can think of is Juugo saying that Kumo is peaceful and he feels at ease (or w/e he said when they arrived)

Otherwise it's plot hole galore

Each to his own then, I believe it was because Sasuke just showed off his MS, that's why he felt he could keep him under control.

[-Erios-]

new spoiler!!


this one sounds more credible.

[blind]

new spoiler!!


this one sounds more credible.

Actually, I think this one sounds more fake than the previous one. Pein calling Naruto by his name? Sasuke using Amaterasu without Madara?

[Itachi_the_Feared_One]

Actually, I think this one sounds more fake than the previous one. Pein calling Naruto by his name? Sasuke using Amaterasu without Madara?

I totally agree, that was the most credible bullshit I've ever had to read, but then it's thursday shouldn't we have confirmed spoiler by now.

[blind]

I totally agree, that was the most credible I've ever had to read, but then it's thursday shouldn't we have confirmed spoiler by now.

Theoretically yes, but who knows, maybe all we'll get is the chapter tomorrow, unless something gets leaked in the next 12 hours or so.

[rock-the-lotus]

id rather have the chapter 2marrow than a spoiler leaked right before it comes out.

ps. its my birthday 2day!:thumb:

[Seraphiel]

Its a bull with octopus tentacles wtf :banana:


And sasuke is down again?

[sasuke123uchiha]

the new spoiler looks real

[Seraphiel]

Its lame though,sasuke beaten AGAIN!

[sasuke123uchiha]

i know tht but he will kill him some how

[Seraphiel]

i know tht but he will kill him some how

LoL he may need to drain karin :D



Btw I like the 8tails design

[sasuke123uchiha]

idk he looks like a bull fish

[Sparda]

Ahahahaha Sasuke is down again. And the released form of 8th tail looks cool. I hope there is some naruto in this chapter as well, then it would be a perfect chapter for me.

[sasuke123uchiha]

hope not naruto's training is boring i want to see pain in konoha

[Lavitz]

8tails...weird:P
We dont know what happens in this chapter but It looks like Sasuke is not using his MS.But why?He will need Itachi's eyes...Susanoo ^^ Call me Sasuke fanboy but I hope he will defeat the 8tails...Hachibi is a cool character but if he gets this many chapters now then it would be lame to see him again later in my opinion.Kishi should show some old characters skills but if he thinks this is the right way then It's ok:)

[sasuke123uchiha]

sasuke wining this fight is going to be his fifth win (which is alot) but i actuly hope he loses this fight to end his wining streak

[Lavitz]

I think I will never understand the Sasuke haters :P I think even Itachi would be nothing for Hachibi.
I know this will sound stupid but what if the MS's can control the other tailed beasts and not just only the kyuubi?

[takadanama]

Cooollll Hachibi is awesome..... ~~~~~~~~~ I hope nobody butts in....

[sasuke123uchiha]

I think I will never understand the Sasuke haters :P I think even Itachi would be nothing for Hachibi.
I know this will sound stupid but what if the MS's can control the other tailed beasts and not just only the kyuubi?

me a sasuke hater am one of the biggest sasuke fanboys.
the new pic is a litle harsh

[Seraphiel]

LoL according to the last spoiler Sasuke will get CS back,epic imo.

[wind33]

I think I will never understand the Sasuke haters :P I think even Itachi would be nothing for Hachibi.
I know this will sound stupid but what if the MS's can control the other tailed beasts and not just only the kyuubi?I believe that MS can control other beast as well because Sauske used it to escape Die when he used that snake...

[yasuo]

I believe that MS can control other beast as well because Sauske used it to escape Die when he used that snake...

he didn't use the MS at this point he couldn't use MS...
it was only the normal sharingan which he used




@Lavitz: great signature :) legend of dragoon ^^

[papfles]

LoL according to the last spoiler Sasuke will get CS back,epic imo.

Nah, that's just lame. "he's like me" is just a "here, want another upgrade again, because you can't deal with things without it"

I believe that MS can control other beast as well because Sauske used it to escape Die when he used that snake...

Manda is a summon, quite a difference with pure balls of chakra that Bijuu are.
It has already been mentioned that the MS (at least Madara's) can control the 9-tails, and only the first Hokage had the power to control all.

[SpikeUchiha]

it looks like sasuke isnt fighting like he normally would...
he handled deidara and itachi's better...i hope he wont get the CS back its kinda like naruto
with the ninetails he shouldn't need to use it ...its not true strength..if any thing EMS should be some thing he should consider i mean if he cant get a tail beast he couldn't take on madara atm..

[Hyugumaki]

Ugh ... is Karin going to give CS back to Sauske ....

If this happens ... I think I'm out.

[PirUnravel]

Sasuke will only "win" this fight with his friends helping him out. Seriously... Sasuke always wins by technicalities or else having his friends step in and win for him. Even his fight with Deidera... wasn't Deidera gimped out before the fight?

Grr.... I hope HAWK gets pwned and Sasuke finally gets taught some respect. +_+

[SpikeUchiha]

Sasuke will only "win" this fight with his friends helping him out. Seriously... Sasuke always wins by technicalities or else having his friends step in and win for him. Even his fight with Deidera... wasn't Deidera gimped out before the fight?

Grr.... I hope HAWK gets pwned and Sasuke finally gets taught some respect. +_+

nope deidara was at 100% and had the upper hand with an anti-genjutsu eye...and still ended up killing himself as a final attempt to kill sasuke..
i see him retreating and madara was like i knew you should of took itachis eyes... and train him how to master MS and EMS..as long as he doesnt get CS back...no more bat boy

[wind33]

I don't understand all the animosity towards Sauske...He's gotten some upgrades so what!!! He's an Uchiha that's what they do, they get better and better...That's why they were one of the most feared shinobi clans...That's one of the story plots if they could be defeated that easily then they would have been wiped out long ago...

As for this fight, I think that Sauske will ultimately need help because we're not talking about just a regular shinobi. We're talking about a Jin who has mastered and can control the massive amount of charkra that the beast has...I predict that he will loose not because he's not a good shinobi but because what's he's up against is a force of nature and not just a man with knifes.

[PirUnravel]

i see him retreating and madara was like i knew you should of took itachis eyes... and train him how to master MS and EMS..as long as he doesnt get CS back...no more bat boy


Interesting prediction... I agree that could definitely happen. Madara wanted him to be humbled and knew the 8TJ would definitely kick his arse. (crosses fingers)

[papfles]

I don't understand all the animosity towards Sauske...He's gotten some upgrades so what!!! He's an Uchiha that's what they do, they get better and better...That's why they were one of the most feared shinobi clans...That's one of the story plots if they could be defeated that easily then they would have been wiped out long ago...

It's time to face the music.

Uchiha have sharingan, therefore they can copy jutsu easily. That's what was established at the beginning of the manga and everyone thought it was cool (thank Kakashi for that).

Itachi also had a very specific use for his sharingan.

However, Sasuke completely defeats that purpose.
He just gets upgrades that a shinobi shouldn't get, not even with his sharingan eyes. He got CS for no reason and he got oro's kawarimi and healing gifts for no reason. Kishi took them away to balance out the fight against Itachi, and now he's just going to give one of those back because Sasuke can't handle a fight?

If Naruto can't handle a fight, he keeps going until he gets beaten to a pulp, his friends bail him out or he dies. There's the difference, he doesn't get "oh, people of earth, I need your spirit power to defeat Buu".

[boszz]

I don't understand all the animosity towards Sauske...He's gotten some upgrades so what!!! He's an Uchiha that's what they do, they get better and better...That's why they were one of the most feared shinobi clans...That's one of the story plots if they could be defeated that easily then they would have been wiped out long ago...

hmmm

maybe because he's too arogant..saying how much powerful he's just because he's a uchicha ( and after that he has to use some borrowed / given powers because his own are too weak.. poor little boy)
and who wants to see a cheap fight when sasuke get more powers from nowhere just to survive a battle its boring..

As for this fight, I think that Sauske will ultimately need help because we're not talking about just a regular shinobi. We're talking about a Jin who has mastered and can control the massive amount of charkra that the beast has...I predict that he will loose not because he's not a good shinobi but because what's he's up against is a force of nature and not just a man with knifes.well i see rather a cheap victory for sasuke ( even thought i'd like to see him failing) but for a sake of story 8tails will be defeated ( whether by sasuke or someone will interfere

[SpikeUchiha]

hmmm

maybe because he's too arogant..saying how much powerful he's just because he's a uchicha ( and after that he has to use some borrowed / given powers because his own are too weak.. poor little boy)
and who wants to see a cheap fight when sasuke get more powers from nowhere just to survive a battle its boring..

well i see rather a cheap victory for sasuke ( even thought i'd like to see him failing) but for a sake of story 8tails will be defeated ( whether by sasuke or someone will interfere

uchiha is a hard name to live up to your known as the last one and every one saying your weak,a leftover uchiha, sasuke is just trying to clear his name..you have to be strong even if you feel weak.. naruto beat that in to sasuke back in the forest of death..now with that said i take back my prediction of sasuke and co retreating...sasuke will fight till he dies.. like naruto would..tobi/madara will poof there and save them...if needed

[boszz]

uchiha is a hard name to live up to your known as the last one and every one saying your weak,a leftover uchiha, sasuke is just trying to clear his name..you have to be strong even if you feel weak.. naruto beat that in to sasuke back in the forest of death..now with that said i take back my prediction of sasuke and co retreating...sasuke will fight till he dies.. like naruto would..tobi/madara will poof there and save them...if needed

Huh

you should read manga again cause from the beginning sasuke was called a genius ( not like you said "weak"), he was admired by everyone in village.
what i dislike about him is his stupid pride and talking how much uchicha are
and after that he uses given power cause he cant deal with trouble on his own ( its a crap)

[Seraphiel]

Sasuke will only "win" this fight with his friends helping him out. Seriously... Sasuke always wins by technicalities or else having his friends step in and win for him. Even his fight with Deidera... wasn't Deidera gimped out before the fight?

Grr.... I hope HAWK gets pwned and Sasuke finally gets taught some respect. +_+

No

And,and by your logic Shika and Kakashi beat Kakuzu not naruto.

[papfles]

uchiha is a hard name to live up to your known as the last one and every one saying your weak,a leftover uchiha, sasuke is just trying to clear his name..you have to be strong even if you feel weak.. naruto beat that in to sasuke back in the forest of death..now with that said i take back my prediction of sasuke and co retreating...sasuke will fight till he dies.. like naruto would..tobi/madara will poof there and save them...if needed

And taking back CS would be admitting you are weak and that you need to hide your weakness behind the CS. It would not be an act of strength.

[Toxic Anarch]

No

And,and by your logic Shika and Kakashi beat Kakuzu not naruto.

They technically did, its just that Kakuzu needs to be beaten more than once ^.^

[Seraphiel]

They technically did, its just that Kakuzu needs to be beaten more than once ^.^

Technically they did beat hi more than once,naruto beat him just once :D

[wind33]

It's time to face the music.

However, Sasuke completely defeats that purpose.
He just gets upgrades that a shinobi shouldn't get, not even with his sharingan eyes. He got CS for no reason and he got oro's kawarimi and healing gifts for no reason. Kishi took them away to balance out the fight against Itachi, and now he's just going to give one of those back because Sasuke can't handle a fight?

If Naruto can't handle a fight, he keeps going until he gets beaten to a pulp, his friends bail him out or he dies. There's the difference, he doesn't get "oh, people of earth, I need your spirit power to defeat Buu".Kishi is simply trying to illustrate the difference in working hard to attain strength and aquiring it because of natural skill...He did it with Neji and Rock Lee and he's doing it with Suaske and Naruto...And while i think that I can speak for most of us when I say that I hope that when Naruto finishes his toad training that he'll be a completely awesome shinobi, that kind of thing takes time..It would be completely unrealistic to have Naruto become the best shinobi after just a wekk or two of toad training when it took Jariah a life time to master the same sage arts...

[yasuo]

Kishi is simply trying to illustrate the difference in working hard to attain strength and aquiring it because of natural skill...He did it with Neji and Rock Lee and he's doing it with Suaske and Naruto...And while i think that I can speak for most of us when I say that I hope that when Naruto finishes his toad training that he'll be a completely awesome shinobi, that kind of thing takes time..It would be completely unrealistic to have Naruto become the best shinobi after just a wekk or two of toad training when it took Jariah a life time to master the same sage arts...

it's not unrealistic it's only natural for naruto to master his training very fast... think about the rasengan an fuuton rasenshuriken training ;)
this is what makes naruto naruto ^^

[EnvoyofDestiny]

Technically they did beat hi more than once,naruto beat him just once :D

nope beat him 3 times. i think naruto was in better shape than kakuzu and given sometime could of finished off the last heart himself. So he beat him at least twice. Kakashi and shiki had one heart each. And if u want 2 kakashi 2 naruto 1 shiki.

[papfles]

Kishi is simply trying to illustrate the difference in working hard to attain strength and aquiring it because of natural skill...

So "getting CS" is natural skill then?

If so, Sasuke definitely is the most naturally gifted shinobi *sarcasm*

[blind]

Doubt he's getting CS back, Karin just saying how Sasuke's blood was similar to her's sounded like a blood type match to me more than anything...

Edit: Looks like the 8 tail is a bull, with an octopus body...

[wind33]

So "getting CS" is natural skill then?

If so, Sasuke definitely is the most naturally gifted shinobi *sarcasm*Well if that's your argument the same can be said for Naruto...having a chakra beast inside you doesn't show that you have any skill...and lets face it if it weren't for the ninetailed fox our hero would have been dead long ago...so both Naruto and Suaske have had assistance in developing into great shinobi...

But let me make this very clear i'm not on the Sauske band wagon i just think that you guys are taking every op. to make him out to be the worst thing to happen to the Naruto universe...I'm waiting for the day when he and Naruto will be friends again and fight side by side..And I know their are some of you who believe that that will never happen but it's my hope that it will...

[Herumor]

No

And,and by your logic Shika and Kakashi beat Kakuzu not naruto.

I don't know about that, Kakashi and co. seemed to be having a pretty difficult time dealing with Kakazu until Naruto and Yamato got there. Then Naruto used the FRS (of course the first time he messed up, but that's a theme with Naruto. Messing up, then coming back and kicking arse) and nearly killed Kakazu. Either Pein or Mandara said later when Tobi revealed his true identity that Naruto managed to end two of Kakazu's 'lives' in one attack. The FRS left Kakazu incapacitated in the center of the FRS's crater. Kakashi merely finished him off, after Naruto left him complaining about how a bunch of kids could defeat him.

[blind]

Well if that's your argument the same can be said for Naruto...having a chakra beast inside you doesn't show that you have any skill...and lets face it if it weren't for the ninetailed fox our hero would have been dead long ago...so both Naruto and Suaske have had assistance in developing into great shinobi...


Thing is with CS, it had no consquence to him repeatedly using it, while Kyuubi not only held back Naruto (in terms of chakra control), but also could kill him if he went too far with it. What does CS have that needed to be learned? Partial transformation? It's not going to kill him or hinder Sasuke if he doesn't learn to control it.

[-Erios-]

If i remember right CS did have consequences or at last thats what the sound 4 said if the user used CS too much it will take over their personalities r

[Dream Catcher]

Oh wtf... why did he already transform... that's bullshit.

and now I bet Juugo will somehow let Sasuke have CS again... LOL

PFFT

[blind]

If i remember right CS did have consequences or at last thats what the sound 4 said if the user used CS too much it will take over their personalities r

Yes, but is that something he can learn to control? Not really. And the many times that Sasuke has used it, has that become a problem for him? Again, not really.

[-Erios-]

hmmm this is something I wasnt expecting a bull with an octopus body??

[wind33]

Thing is with CS, it had no consquence to him repeatedly using it, while Kyuubi not only held back Naruto (in terms of chakra control), but also could kill him if he went too far with it. What does CS have that needed to be learned? Partial transformation? It's not going to kill him or hinder Sasuke if he doesn't learn to control it.now your arguments are becoming petty...You're using fact that Naruto has to overcome is his debilitation while Sauske can live with his....But ask yourself this: Which one will ultimately yield the greater benefit? The greater the shinobi the more difficult the journey...

[papfles]

Well if that's your argument the same can be said for Naruto...having a chakra beast inside you doesn't show that you have any skill...and lets face it if it weren't for the ninetailed fox our hero would have been dead long ago...so both Naruto and Suaske have had assistance in developing into great shinobi...

Bleh, Kyuubi is Naruto's counter for Sharingan. You can't possibly try to defend "obtaining CS" with that.

And Sasuke as in the previous chapter, fighting alongside with his team, relying on them to do some of the work, is actually just fine. That's the sasuke I want to see, not the "I can do everything with just a smirk on my face, while I pwn every shinobi in the land and beyond".

If i remember right CS did have consequences or at last thats what the sound 4 said if the user used CS too much it will take over their personalities r

And we haven't seen Sasuke suffer from this prediction, nor from the Kakashi prediction that it will stunt his growth as a shinobi.

Oh wtf... why did he already transform... that's bullshit.

Indeed, he didn't need to do so to gain the upperhand.

[blind]

now your arguments are becoming petty...You're using fact that Naruto has to overcome is his debilitation while Sauske can live with his....But ask yourself this: Which one will ultimately yield the greater benefit? The greater the shinobi the more difficult the journey...

lol, think about how much more work Naruto would have to put into controlling/learning his "ability" as compared to Sasuke. I'm just saying it takes a lot more "skills" to control Kyuubi than CS.

[Dream Catcher]

There is a possibility Sasuke gained his powers through techniques other than good ol' training. Either that, or Kishi has been feeding us bs just to make Sasuke seem like he overcame every obstacle in his life and is the leet

[Seraphiel]

Blind


it was already posted by me the great one (http://forum.narutochaos.com/showpost.php?p=714781&postcount=10)


maybe he just transformed cuz enough tails formed.

[blind]

Indeed, he didn't need to do so to gain the upperhand.

Well, he transformed at the end of the chapter, perhaps after Sasuke activated his MS, so who knows what happened in the 16-17 pages before.


it was already posted by me the great one (http://forum.narutochaos.com/showpost.php?p=714781&postcount=10)


I lol'd.

[papfles]

Well, he transformed at the end of the chapter, perhaps after Sasuke activated his MS, so who knows what happened in the 16-17 pages before.

I hope there is a reason for it, otherwise meh

[blind]

I hope there is a reason for it, otherwise meh

lol, well I hope it's not going to be, "I want to show off, so here I go.", that'd be pretty pointless. Seeing as how Sasuke has turned on his MS in this chapter, that could be a good reason why.

[wind33]

Oh wtf... why did he already transform... that's bullshit.

and now I bet Juugo will somehow let Sasuke have CS again... LOL

PFFTI don't think that Kishi's going to bring CS back in Suaske...It wouldn't make any sense..One of the main reasons that Itachi pushed Sauske to his limits was so that he could draw out that part of Sauske that Oro was inhabiting and destroy it and destroy all of his influence on him as well...It would seem like a waste of heroism on Itachi's part to have it given back to him with something as easy as a bite from Juugo.

On the other hand it would kind of fit the battle that Naruto and Sauske are gearing up to...Just like at the Valley of the end they were both Kyuubi and CS respectively and CS beat Kyuubi... so it may be that Kishi wants a total victory with them at there full strengths...Just a little something I was tossing around in my head...

[letsrock0303]

I have a feeling if Sasuke and Naruto end up fighting again, CS and Kyuubi wont make an appearance. I think it will be more like sage mode against super crazy atom sharigan sasuke

[-Erios-]

ohh boy I bet team bird will be wetting their pants once they see 8 tails true form

[Toxic Anarch]

I heard a spoiler on another forum that said something about Hachibi retaining his personallity even after he's gone full 8-tails. I don't know if this is true... but if it is... I only came to one conclusion, which was Naruto might be able to do the same thing one day... especially with this training.

I don't know if I should be happy or kinda sad though... A major part of the reason I like Naruto is that he DOESN'T have everything under control and he can become a loose cannon, its another weakness.

=-=-=-=-

Anyone else wondering how the cloud village recieved two bijuu from the first? And even then... they decided to go and still fight with Konoha... ((Hinata/hyuuga thing))...

How can a village have that big of an impact on the manga and we not know more about it >.<...

[papfles]

On the other hand it would kind of fit the battle that Naruto and Sauske are gearing up to...Just like at the Valley of the end they were both Kyuubi and CS respectively and CS beat Kyuubi... so it may be that Kishi wants a total victory with them at there full strengths...Just a little something I was tossing around in my head...

Again...

Sharingan = Kyuubi

CS is freebie advantage given to Sasuke.

[Toxic Anarch]

Would CS not = Senjutsu though?

Personally.... I think Sasuke is a better character without CS, hes a lot more likeable.. but either way, the manga will go onward. Either way, Naruto will fight to the death with Sasuke and still have to find a way to beat him on his last breath.

Whether its with CS or just Sasuke's skill... the results in my mind will be the same in the long run. I do agree, however, that Itachi sacrificing himself like so to get rid of the curse mark just for it to come back is extremely bad plotting...

[wind33]

Again...

Sharingan = Kyuubi

CS is freebie advantage given to Sasuke. Again your arguement makes no sense...How can sharingan=kyuubi
when sharingan is a bloodline limit?...Kyuubi isn't a blood line limit it was given to Naruto in much the same way that CS was given to Sauske...Look man, i get it, you want to make things equal between Naruto and Sauske but right now it's just not that way but things will change...Hopefully, when Naruto finishes his training he will be a much more formatable shinobi...You can't keep blaming Sauske for being born as a Uchiha...Just let it go and except it...it'll be easier on you if you can just move on...

[Toxic Anarch]

I think what Papfles is trying to say when he/she says "Sharingan = Kyuubi" is that to a certain extent it has been shown that the sharingan allows the user to control the kyuubi. So really... since sasuke has the sharingan, and that new mystery one, the kyuubi will have almost no affect on the fight.

[papfles]

Again your arguement makes no sense...How can sharingan=kyuubi
when sharingan is a bloodline limit?...Kyuubi isn't a blood line limit it was given to Naruto in much the same way that CS was given to Sauske...Look man, i get it, you want to make things equal between Naruto and Sauske but right now it's just not that way but things will change...Hopefully, when Naruto finishes his training he will be a much more formatable shinobi...You can't keep blaming Sauske for being born as a Uchiha...Just let it go and except it...it'll be easier on you if you can just move on...

You don't get it.

The Kyuubi is something that Naruto didn't want but what was given to him at birth (same way that Sasuke has received Sharingan at birth).

Difference being that Naruto had a unwanted "gift" that is frowned upon.

Sasuke has been given a gift of geniouses.

Sasuke - on top of what he already has been given - has CS which is just a perk out of nowhere with so-called side-effects that we haven't seen in Sasuke (still a perk with no bad effects).

So you cannot compare CS with Kyuubi.

Sharingan is to Sasuke what Kyuubi is to Naruto (although Kyuubi DOES have the side-effects the way CS is supposed to have any).

So Sasuke is getting a double bonus: a non-harmful bloodline limit (and especially now since he can just get itachi's eyes if any problems DO arise) and a non-harmful perk.

Naruto: harmful "bloodline"



Things have never been equal between sasuke and naruto, but yet you act like it's all normal and acceptable that Sasuke gets all of it.

let me rephrase what you said:

Just let it go and except it...it'll be easier on you if you can just move on...

=>

Just let it go and accept it... It'll be easier on you if you can just move on...

[wind33]

I think what Papfles is trying to say when he/she says "Sharingan = Kyuubi" is that to a certain extent it has been shown that the sharingan allows the user to control the kyuubi. So really... since sasuke has the sharingan, and that new mystery one, the kyuubi will have almost no affect on the fight.I have no idea what you meant by this...It made no sense to me at all.

Papfles was trying to tell me that Naruto's defence against the sharigan is the Kyuubi...And that because Sauske was just given CS he has an unfair advantage when the truth is no matter what advantage Sauke has once Naruto learns to combine the Kyuubi's chakra with his owns the game will be over...Sharingan, MS, EMS, Amat, or anything else won't be able to help him against it...we just have to be patient...

You don't get it.

The Kyuubi is something that Naruto didn't want but what was given to him at birth (same way that Sasuke has received Sharingan at birth).

Difference being that Naruto had a unwanted "gift" that is frowned upon.

Sasuke has been given a gift of geniouses.

Sasuke - on top of what he already has been given - has CS which is just a perk out of nowhere with so-called side-effects that we haven't seen in Sasuke (still a perk with no bad effects).

So you cannot compare CS with Kyuubi.

Sharingan is to Sasuke what Kyuubi is to Naruto (although Kyuubi DOES have the side-effects the way CS is supposed to have any).

So Sasuke is getting a double bonus: a non-harmful bloodline limit (and especially now since he can just get itachi's eyes if any problems DO arise) and a non-harmful perk.

Naruto: harmful "bloodline"



Things have never been equal between sasuke and naruto, but yet you act like it's all normal and acceptable that Sasuke gets all of it.

let me rephrase what you said:

Just let it go and except it...it'll be easier on you if you can just move on...

=>

Just let it go and accept it... It'll be easier on you if you can just move on... i'm not saying it fair or unfair i'm saying it is what it is and the fact the you B**ch about it won't change so why bother...

[papfles]

i'm not saying it fair or unfair i'm saying it is what it is and the fact the you B**ch about it won't change so why bother...

And cursing won't help either.

You have a different vision to perks given to sasuke than I do, but when I defend my vision, I'm B**ch'ing[//quote] and I should [quote]except it[//quote]

I'm sorry, never knew you were the one with the absolute manga knowledge here (which is DonEmu imo)


[QUOTE]Papfles was trying to tell me that Naruto's defence against the sharigan is the Kyuubi

No I wasn't. I was talking about personal traits vs freebies

[Toxic Anarch]

You don't get it.

Just let it go and except it...it'll be easier on you if you can just move on...

=>

Just let it go and accept it... It'll be easier on you if you can just move on...

I'm sorry, but I couldn't help but laugh when I read this... :yo:

:focus:

Like I said before though, to me it doesn't matter what powers either has.. they'll end up being equal somehow.

Sasuke = Sharingan + CS, possibly.

Naruto = Kyuubi + Senjutsu, possibly.

=-=-=-=-

Wait... why can't Sasuke just use his sharingan to take away Hachibi's form like he did to naruto...?

[papfles]

Wait... why can't Sasuke just use his sharingan to take away Hachibi's form like he did to naruto...?

Sharingan (well, at least Madara's and to an extent we've seen this with Sasuke too) only allows for control of the 9-tails, not every beast.

[Toxic Anarch]

Sharingan (well, at least Madara's and to an extent we've seen this with Sasuke too) only allows for control of the 9-tails, not every beast.

Has that been explained? How can you only control one beast, the most powerful one, and not the others? Did the Uchiha clan make a pact with it or something?

I wonder...

[boszz]

well maybe it because of their sinister chakra maybe some other connections but it was said that sharingan can control only kyuubi ( madara, itachi, uchicha's hideout information)
the only one who could control all tailed beats was 1st hokage thanks to his mokuton

not to say that every bijuu has his own powers ( so they're diffrent )thats why just because you can control one of them doesnt mean you can control another one

[papfles]

well maybe it because of their inister chakra maybe some other connections but it was said that sharingan can control only kyubi ( madara, itachi, uchicha's hideout information)
the only one who could control all tailed beats was 1 t hokage thanks to his mokuton

And his necklace (which should play an important part in the near future)

[blind]

Has that been explained? How can you only control one beast, the most powerful one, and not the others? Did the Uchiha clan make a pact with it or something?

I wonder...

No, but it's obvious from the script by Kishi, if he intended to include every bijuu, he would have stated that "Bijuus could be controlled by Sharingan" and not just "Kyuubi could be controlled by Sharingan"...

[SpikeUchiha]

No, but it's obvious from the script by Kishi, if he intended to include every bijuu, he would have stated that "Bijuus could be controlled by Sharingan" and not just "Kyuubi could be controlled by Sharingan"...

true..thats what itachi told sasuke to find in the hideout...before he left konoha

[PirUnravel]

Kishi has made Sasuke super cheap. But I think he has to be cheap to be the nearly-impossible obstacle for Naruto to overcome. >_>

That being said, I really hope the 8TJ beats him unlike anyone else. *.*

And no, I don't say that because I harbor a hatred for Sasuke. I love watching characters go through hell in horrific situations (imagine having to fight the 8TJ?)... not ease by with their cheapness.

[Murdock]

problem is that Sasuke might have hard time with 8TJ but when he get beaten he just bite Karin and he can go fighting again ... and again ... and again ... and again

[EnvoyofDestiny]

Sharingan (well, at least Madara's and to an extent we've seen this with Sasuke too) only allows for control of the 9-tails, not every beast.


8-tail: To nullify the genjyutsu you need a partner to disturb your own chakra and wake you out of it. My partner is the 8-tail contained within me. Genjyutsu will not work on a Jinchuuriki that has controlled its tailed beast.

this kinda casts doubt on sharingan not being able to control tailed beasts. it doesn't say it wouldn't work on tailed beasts anyway. and since jinchukri are more powerful, one would assume a lone wild tailed beast could be manipulated.

[the lost shinobi]

this kinda casts doubt on sharingan not being able to control tailed beasts. it doesn't say it wouldn't work on tailed beasts anyway. and since jinchukri are more powerful, one would assume a lone wild tailed beast could be manipulated.

more than one sharingan is needed. it wasnt like Madara could just go and control whichever bijuu he wanted because he had an EMS.

besides the reason the genjutsu didn't work was because the container and his bijuu essentially did the same thing Chiyo and Sakura did to Naruto. They disrupted the flow of invading chakra.

That doesn't mean that a lone bijuu is definetly vulnerable to genjutsu. Bijuu are masses of chakra, they could just do what Naruto does. Stop chakra flow then suddenly start it up with a bang. And Bijuu have more chakra than Naruto.

[SpikeUchiha]

Kishi has made Sasuke super cheap. But I think he has to be cheap to be the nearly-impossible obstacle for Naruto to overcome. >_>

That being said, I really hope the 8TJ beats him unlike anyone else. *.*

And no, I don't say that because I harbor a hatred for Sasuke. I love watching characters go through hell in horrific situations (imagine having to fight the 8TJ?)... not ease by with their cheapness.

That would be messed up..8tj reminds me of the shadow of the colossus
"wheeeeee!! KillA Bee Yo!!"
http://i37.tinypic.com/2d0m6xf.jpg
and sasuke doesn't have a bow

[Csdabest]

I have a feeling this is the last time we are going to see Sasuke like this. Might see him damage. But getting this embarassed.

[-Erios-]

chapter is out ppl
@ wannabe check the link you posted seems its broken...or at least I get that error..

[Drunken_Master_Rock_Lee]

It's out, read it here....

http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/413/01/

[Wannabe]

chapter is out ppl
@ wannabe check the link you posted seems its broken...or at least I get that error..

Fixed... :p

[Tazuwukei]

Suigetsu dies, Jyuggo(whatever his name is) stays at the mountain, and Sasuke nearly dies defeating 8tj and has to devour Karin to recover.

Bye-bye hawk :P

edit: better yet, Karin and Sasuke have to fuse, forming a new being that's in love with himself.. SASGAY XD

http://img223.imageshack.us/img223/1010/fusionaw9.jpg
OMFG I WAS RIGHT!! OMFG!!

[-Erios-]

http://img223.imageshack.us/img223/1010/fusionaw9.jpg
OMFG I WAS RIGHT!! OMFG!!

congrats!!....I guess??

[Wannabe]

http://img223.imageshack.us/img223/1010/fusionaw9.jpg
OMFG I WAS RIGHT!! OMFG!!

Except that it's Juugo fusing with Sasuke, not Karin. Lol.

[Tazuwukei]

congrats!!....I guess??

I truely thank you for your long and congratulatory speech worth posting, no.. It definately wasn't spam. :p

[Tazuwukei]

Except that it's Juugo fusing with Sasuke, not Karin. Lol.

My bad, well great. Guess this means Sasgay gets CS back now. *angry*

[-Erios-]

I truely thank you for your long and congratulatory speech worth posting, no.. It definately wasn't spam. :p

your welcome and I was just being sarcastic since you you got all exited for that prediction you almost guessed..but nvm...OMFG I WAS RIGHT!! OMFG!!

[blind]

Chapter's out, thread's locked.