Politicians - Our Downfall

[estranged]

What is the point of war? Territory, false claims of WMDs, the most trivial disagreements, different religions - these are some of the reasons countries bomb each other. But why do they fight knowing that they're hurting their own people, the people they are supposed to protect? The politicians are supposedly a smart bunch, "the best the country has to offer" and all that shit, so how about doing the smart thing by coming up with a diplomatic solution?

perhaps we have been fooled. perhaps they are not, in fact, intelligent. perhaps they are not the ones who care about anything or anyone but themselves. I think, they are just your typical career driven robots; products of our societies. Their names, careers, power and money are all that matters, it sure seems this way doesn't it? It's pretty obvious they don't give a shit about the well being of the citizens; young, old, poor, disabled or sick, they care not. they seem to care more about DIRT than the people they swore to protect.

These hypocritical politicians will lie to you over and over, they will fabricate stories to cover up their wrongdoings, they will justify oppression claiming it is for the good of the country, they will replace the little girl singing an anthem for the olympics commencement ceremony with another cuter girl who lip-syncs to the voice of the former, apparently ugly girl, and they will watch all this on their flat screen HD tvs right after pocketing their cut from the economy.

Why these politicians have supporters is beyond me. They are greedy, hypocritical, incompassionate and stupid. They deliberately harm their own people, and they're in control of our countries. that's right, we're all fucked.

[Owenotto]

Simple,same with human, politician is divided into good or bad as well
It seems that everywhere in this world is already under a government authorization. There is no single land in the earth free from law and rule.
Apparently as you said, this law and rule creates politicians to execute the rule. Of course this rule and law originally have a good purpose, otherwise it wouldn't be created.
So it is nothing bad about politician imo.

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thank you for your input, that was just a little something i needed to get off of my chest considering i'm technically stateless now.

[Owenotto]

sorry es...
i don't know what your problem is, but i agree with you at some point though...
nowadays politician is far from utopia... so it's normal if sometime we happen to curse them...
here in indonesia, honestly our government is worst, they are all suck...

[Pryce]

I agree with u on one thing most politicians are basically professional liars, and really only care about money and power. But who can blame them that’s just how things are done.

but war is a necessary evil believe me being diplomatic is all well in good but if a hostel army invades your country and starts to massacre your people there’s not much room for peace talks.






Edit sry if tis post sounds weird i need to stop smokin its messin with my train of thought

[DesecratioN]

Simple,same with human, politician is divided into good or bad as well
It seems that everywhere in this world is already under a government authorization. There is no single land in the earth free from law and rule.
Apparently as you said, this law and rule creates politicians to execute the rule. Of course this rule and law originally have a good purpose, otherwise it wouldn't be created.
So it is nothing bad about politician imo.


"good" and "evil" are relative terms (there are no absolute truths)

People also willingly gave up certain rights for personal security (aka the social contract) You give up certain rights to gain protection)

That being said politicans are not the downfall of man as in pretty much every case I can think of politicans are powerless without the backing of others.. (noone single handedly without any aid of a military/milita force or voted in going to just walk in adn claim rule) The downfall is the ignorance of people in general and the need of others to have to follow the lead of others.

[tsunade ^_^]

I agree with you there Des. Its not as simple as you make it out Es.
Some wars are needed. The one George Ass wasnt though. Anyhoo, our lands Politics are all good. People actually get what they voted for. So I dont have any complaints about our politicians. The only thing I thing I want to mention is that the person or being to blame is God. not going to elaborate on that. Just my personal opinion

[estranged]

well obviously it's necessary to weed out terrorists who threatens a country, but in my post i specifically referred to wars between 2 established nations with governments n shit, i can't see why, in this case, war would be necessary if both parties are intelligent and willing to avoid bloodshed :D.
if they are not willing to avoid bloodshed, i point out (in my post) how this is evidence of their apathy towards the well being of their citizens. this is just how i see it, maybe it's just naive youthful idealism i dunno lol ^____________^

i disagree with all of the posts above, except des's. that made some sense. but i'd suggest you put yourself in the shoes of a person living in a more oppressive nation where even the basic human rights are ignored before you make such a statement. while the ignorant masses following an authoritarian leader does fuel his power, lets not forget the minorities who are being fed the same politics, laws, religion, whatever.. and choking on it.
we can't blame the ignorant followers here, because it would/should be the said politician's (ruler's) job to protect the rights and well being of ALL his citizens.

[tsunade ^_^]

OMG dude wake up. We were the opressed nation. For 30fookin years. Its our rulers and freedom fighters who helped us. So bah, enough with this nonsence

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OMG dude wake up. We were the opressed nation. For 30fookin years. Its our rulers and freedom fighters who helped us. So bah, enough with this nonsence
lucky you .

-_-

i think you're just not used to people disagreeing with you

[tsunade ^_^]

No Im sooo used to it. Im just tired of people complaining about the Government this, that or the other. When some politicians are indeed working their asses off. It is the people/voters who dont want to get off their behinds and do something about it

[estranged]

No Im sooo used to it. Im just tired of people complaining about the Government this, that or the other. When some politicians are indeed working their asses off. It is the people/voters who dont want to get off their behinds and do something about it obviously you remain very ignorant of much of the rest of the world =]
if you're gonna make an argument please bring relevant points other than "politcians work their ass off", thank you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ^_^

and if you're weary off complaints, you can always ignore them. or you can try, as i have said in my previous post, to put yourself in somebody elses shoes, and see that some might have good reasons to complain! (but of course i understand if you can't do that because; *refer to the first sentence of this post*) i appreciate your input! =D

[DesecratioN]

well obviously it's necessary to weed out terrorists who threatens a country, but in my post i specifically referred to wars between 2 established nations with governments n shit, i can't see why, in this case, war would be necessary if both parties are intelligent and willing to avoid bloodshed :D.
if they are not willing to avoid bloodshed, i point out (in my post) how this is evidence of their apathy towards the well being of their citizens. this is just how i see it, maybe it's just naive youthful idealism i dunno lol ^____________^

i disagree with all of the posts above, except des's. that made some sense. but i'd suggest you put yourself in the shoes of a person living in a more oppressive nation where even the basic human rights are ignored before you make such a statement. while the ignorant masses following an authoritarian leader does fuel his power, lets not forget the minorities who are being fed the same politics, laws, religion, whatever.. and choking on it.
we can't blame the ignorant followers here, because it would/should be the said politician's (ruler's) job to protect the rights and well being of ALL his citizens.

I can see where you come form in this said point.

Again though do remember that that original politician does / did have a backing and in the case you listed above more then likely a military / militia one.

That leader did not get there alone... and in such cases there are few remedies that can be thought up... Either A) Some other nation gets involved if the humanatarian rights violations becomes to outrageous or B) A Coup is formed internally or C) You have rebel terrorist groups (yes even if it may seem like a just cause it is still terrorism) group forms to de rail the current lead.

Either way all of this revolves around some form of leadership and them establishing a following.

Perhaps a politician may be corrupt but that does not mean the situation is for the most part inescapable ...