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S.Haze
08-08-2008, 07:47 AM
Naruto chapter 413 discussion is out grab it here

http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/412/

http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii40/voltz11/001.jpg

The killer bee Lets Out a Howl

Just what is number 8?

Is it gonna be another sword or is he gonna let out a Tail?

Has someone finally put a stop to Emo-Kids winning streak?

Discuss!

(Mod put up a poll I dont know how)

KageNaruto
08-08-2008, 07:50 AM
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y293/KageNaruto/017.jpg

So what is number 8? Is he actually going to "transform", just use the 8tails chakra, or is it a jutsu that doesen't have to do with the bijuu despite it's name?

And how will Sasuke further get owned even with his pals to help him!!?!?

WHO WILL BITE KARIN NEXT CHAPTER!?!?!? Stay tuned.

KageNaruto
08-08-2008, 07:52 AM
Yes, while I was making the thread. Hence why I now merged them together. Keep your cool, now I have to add a poll to this...

EDIT: Quite frankly, I find mine much more exciting than yours :P.

S.Haze
08-08-2008, 07:53 AM
Lol, its because I've never made a thread for a chapter discussion i was quite happy until i saw your thread
Anyway i think its probably gonna be a Tail from the biiju

FerN
08-08-2008, 07:57 AM
Great chapter (For me anyways). Number 8 will be the 8th sword

boszz
08-08-2008, 07:58 AM
it was a great chapter.

I'd like to see them defeated so we would have a little quarrel between Mdara and Pain ( cause madara's confident about sasuke's power)

and what about number 8 maybe he'll finally change his form.

KageNaruto
08-08-2008, 07:59 AM
Poll is now up. Next time, when you start a thread, make it more exciting, especially for a chapter as awesome as this!

While I hope to see Pein next chapter, something tells me it won't happen. And I'm sick of seeing Naruto turn into a frog over and over. We need to skip seeing him until he makes notable progress now.

FerN
08-08-2008, 08:05 AM
They'll definately show more of Naruto turning into a frog, I mean he dived into the pond. He'll be hit over and over again just cause one hit would not be able to take out the natural energy now

S.Haze
08-08-2008, 08:08 AM
Poll is now up. Next time, when you start a thread, make it more exciting, especially for a chapter as awesome as this!

Come on it was ma first time.
Anyway the chapter wasn't as exciting as you say it was but im just happy that everything wasn't a genjutsu.

KageNaruto
08-08-2008, 08:08 AM
I'm pretty sure that was for comic relief, and one whack (maybe a hard one) should still whack all the frog out of him.

I seriously do not see the point of him doing the same thing over and over for three chapters in a row, he should take a break (from us being able to see him) for a little while. Then next time we see him we can see him lifting a boulder with one arm or something.

Haha, I want number 8 to be a rap. A rap so badass Sasuke's eardrums pop.

Come on it was ma first time.
Anyway the chapter wasn't as exciting as you say it was but im just happy that everything wasn't a genjutsu.

I found it amazing. And I was just teasing you, lol.

The_Last_True_Uchiha
08-08-2008, 08:10 AM
I really enjoyed this chapter!! 8TJ probably going to transform.. He wants to go for the kill now.. He said he wants to go home and drink his whiskey.. Means he wants to get this over with as quickly as possible.. Was anyone else impressed with Team Hawk's teamwork??

Naruto has lost his mind.. So now we know that Jiraya had a large chakra pool.. That's why he was able to somewhat master Sage techniques.. I say somewhat because he still partially turned into a frog..

FerN
08-08-2008, 08:10 AM
What do you mean it wasnt exciting, Sasuke gets owned right at the beginning of a fight. I call that exciting. I think team hawk will be beaten up and then they'll regroup or something

KageNaruto
08-08-2008, 08:13 AM
I don't want him to transform yet.

He said he was going to go home and drink whiskey before they found him. That was when he thought he could just run away from them. Though I still agree he wants to finish them up quick.

I just hope it's a partial tranformation, another full-out one would be repetitive.

Owenotto
08-08-2008, 08:14 AM
Nice chapter, simply great... Next chapter will be sasuke begging for his life...

The_Last_True_Uchiha
08-08-2008, 08:16 AM
I don't want him to transform yet.

He said he was going to go home and drink whiskey before they found him. That was when he thought he could just run away from them. Though I still agree he wants to finish them up quick.

I just hope it's a partial tranformation, another full-out one would be repetitive.

I just dont see the 8tj being the type to just run away from a fight.. he seemed to be coming up with rhymes in the middle of it all.. I figured he wanted to keep getting more material...

FerN
08-08-2008, 08:17 AM
I think that this jinkuuri is so strong that he wont need to transform to get all the chakra from the 8tails. That would be cool

KageNaruto
08-08-2008, 08:19 AM
I just dont see the 8tj being the type to just run away from a fight.. he seemed to be coming up with rhymes in the middle of it all.. I figured he wanted to keep getting more material...

Why not? He is the complete type to do that. He is bored playing with "weaklings", just came back from training, and just wants to sit back and drink some whiskey watching TV, lol.

papfles
08-08-2008, 08:21 AM
I think it's about his eight sword.

And this is a first in a long time that I can say "nice job sasuke".

he got scared in the beginning and after his team bailed him out (showing their allegiance), he started working together with his team, exactly what I want to see from teams being formed, so nice one.

And nice revelation about Jiraiya (having insane amount of chakra himself).

KageNaruto
08-08-2008, 08:24 AM
I don't quite get why Chidori didn't slice through 8TJ though... only part of this chapter I didn't quite like.

The_Last_True_Uchiha
08-08-2008, 08:24 AM
If he runs away from these "weaklings", wouldn't that make him weak?? When he first made his appearance he said "the only one who was allowed to him me, is me" or something like that.. All that boasting now he wants to flee??

Seraphiel
08-08-2008, 08:25 AM
I think it's about his eight sword.

And this is a first in a long time that I can say "nice job sasuke".

he got scared in the beginning and after his team bailed him out (showing their allegiance), he started working together with his team, exactly what I want to see from teams being formed, so nice one.

And nice revelation about Jiraiya (having insane amount of chakra himself).

Well that was kinda obvious,man he used those killer justus like it was nothing(swamp of the underworld,chou oodama rasengan etc.)

And yeah the teamwork was nice,btw he hit the 8tails whit chidori and didn't stab him or what? cuz we see no dmg.

KageNaruto
08-08-2008, 08:26 AM
If he runs away from these "weaklings", wouldn't that make him weak?? When he first made his appearance he said "the only one who was allowed to him me, is me" or something like that.. All that boasting now he wants to flee??

Are you kidding? Haven't you ever had some little kid try to trash talk you and get you into a fight, and instead of beating them to a pulp you decide it's too much trouble and not worth your time, and ditch?

Well if not, this is what the 8TJ more or less tried to do.

papfles
08-08-2008, 08:29 AM
I think the 8tails did what sasuke did. Use lightning to prevent further damage. I'm guessing the 8tails surged his body with lightning too, nullifying further chidori damage.

The_Last_True_Uchiha
08-08-2008, 08:29 AM
I don't quite get why Chidori didn't slice through 8TJ though... only part of this chapter I didn't quite like.

I see what you mean.. Suigestu and the 8TJ both got struck by chidori since they were both covered in water.. It looks like Sasuke might have got him in the arm pit or just put his hand on his chest.. Seeing that Sui took some damage aswell.. He probably didn't want to injure Sui anymore than he already was..

FerN
08-08-2008, 08:30 AM
After all this, I just cant see them winning and I really want Sasuke to have a real win

Seraphiel
08-08-2008, 08:30 AM
I see what you mean.. Suigestu and the 8TJ both got struck by chidori since they were both covered in water.. It looks like Sasuke might have got him in the arm pit or just put his hand on his chest.. Seeing that Sui took some damage aswell.. He probably didn't want to injure Sui anymore than he already was..

If he hit the jigga inthe armpit he wouldn't be able to lift his arm up for 1cm.


Its prolly as pap said.

KageNaruto
08-08-2008, 08:31 AM
I think the 8tails did what sasuke did. Use lightning to prevent further damage. I'm guessing the 8tails surged his body with lightning too, nullifying further chidori damage.

The only thing I see that would make sense, but I still am not that fond of it, mainly because it didn't look that way.

I feel like blind for posting so much in one thread in such a small amount of time, but this chapter has me hyped more than any other in a long time.

papfles
08-08-2008, 08:35 AM
The only thing I see that would make sense, but I still am not that fond of it, mainly because it didn't look that way.

I feel like blind for posting so much in one thread in such a small amount of time, but this chapter has me hyped more than any other in a long time.

Well, if it is like this, Kishi has covered it perfectly, seeing how he has made the 8tails comment on how Sasuke prevented damage (which would mean that the 8-tails is perfectly capable of doing the same thing).

Seraphiel
08-08-2008, 08:36 AM
The only thing I see that would make sense, but I still am not that fond of it, mainly because it didn't look that way.

I feel like blind for posting so much in one thread in such a small amount of time, but this chapter has me hyped more than any other in a long time.

Well why not post much,since we are having a discussion your input is great :D


And it pretty much looks like sasuke actually did hit teh jigga.

KageNaruto
08-08-2008, 08:40 AM
Well, if it is like this, Kishi has covered it perfectly, seeing how he has made the 8tails comment on how Sasuke prevented damage (which would mean that the 8-tails is perfectly capable of doing the same thing).

True, it just doesen't seem like the 8TJ got ANY sort of injury from that, and Chidori isn't supposed to be that much of a pushover that you can cancel it from cutting you with mere chakra. Just doesen't catch on with me perfectly, but the chapter was still fantastic.

At first when Karin pulled out her sleeve I thought they were some sort of seals, but then I realized they are all bite marks. I was like "Woah, are those really all to heal people, or from other things...?"

FerN
08-08-2008, 08:41 AM
Yes, but they have more dmg done to them then the 8tj

kev
08-08-2008, 08:42 AM
After all this, I just cant see them winning and I really want Sasuke to have a real win

a real win, 4 vs 1 nice win for him then.

naruto jumped in the oil was the best thing in this chapter =D

the teamwork of falcon/hawk was very cool, nice teamwork.

Karins abilitys are awsome.

Next chapter will be more Naruto stuff.

And i hope that Pain arrives in Konoha so we can switch back there ;)

papfles
08-08-2008, 08:43 AM
I'm guessing that Karin is the person Oro experimented on after discovering Tsunade's heal-seal. It would make sense he wanted someone around to quick-heal with, without endangering his own lifespan.

Karin won't last much longer if she has to heal several other people in this fight.

Suigetsu should be out of this fight quite fast. If 8tails can hit him once full on with his lightning, he's out. (not forgetting that he needs to "recharge" his water every once in a while).

(and about the 8-tail injury: maybe he has some sort of demon's cloak like naruto, healing him quickly. Or maybe he only sent out a KB to fight and was waiting behind the rock all the time)

FerN
08-08-2008, 08:46 AM
A KB that made that much dmg to his opponent, I dont think so but that would be comical. And a 4v1 fight win is better than the rest of the fights he had.

KageNaruto
08-08-2008, 08:46 AM
I doubt the KB thing, since then he would already be drinking whiskey, he is not the type to stick around, lol. I'll just accept what happened, and take it that black guys are resistant to being cut in Naruto...

If only Akatsuki robes were white, it would make for a funny situation.

Is it like a gene inheritance that girls have less chakra than guys but better chakra control, and almost all end upas medics? It's bugging me... I see feminists complaining about Kishi soon.

A KB that made that much dmg to his opponent, I dont think so but that would be comical. And a 4v1 fight win is better than the rest of the fights he had.

His Deidara fight was totally legit. And he doesen't need another win. He needs a loss to knock his own conseption of his strength down.

The_Last_True_Uchiha
08-08-2008, 08:49 AM
Well that was kinda obvious,man he used those killer justus like it was nothing(swamp of the underworld,chou oodama rasengan etc.)

Actually he did That Grand Rasengan while in hermit mode.. We dont know how much chakra it takes for swamp of the underworld.. But Grand Rasengan should take more..

Next chapter I don't think we'll see Naruto.. It'll be all about the Team Hawk and 8TJ.. I'm anxious to know what the 8TJ's #8 is..

Seraphiel
08-08-2008, 08:59 AM
Actually he did That Grand Rasengan while in hermit mode.. We dont know how much chakra it takes for swamp of the underworld.. But Grand Rasengan should take more..

Next chapter I don't think we'll see Naruto.. It'll be all about the Team Hawk and 8TJ.. I'm anxious to know what the 8TJ's #8 is..

SO what if he did it in hermit mode,it doesn't give him more chakra,just strengthens his jutsus and gives him more overall strength and speed.

KageNaruto
08-08-2008, 09:02 AM
I didn't really see a fight yet that would show us Jiraiya has massive amounts of chakra. All the fights ended to early to Jiraiya use that many jutsus to prove that fact. The swamp he summoned as well as Gamabunta was IMO the only thing that demonstrated it slightly.

So it was a bit of nice info to confirm the fact.

mandelak
08-08-2008, 09:30 AM
it is sort of good to see that KB didnt work in this situation. it will work but if his KB turns to a frog he will lol. also he wont have the time to keep ripping out a new KB when they get smashed of the head. it will be way to time consuming imo

papfles
08-08-2008, 09:32 AM
SO what if he did it in hermit mode,it doesn't give him more chakra,just strengthens his jutsus and gives him more overall strength and speed.

well, technically, it DOES give him new chakra, as it allows him to tap into parts of chakra he wasn't able to use in normal form. The frog even said so himself that that is why Jiraiya changed slightly into a frog, because he hasn't mastered the form. It allows more, other jutsus with an increase in chakra as it brings in a new form of chakra.

Seraphiel
08-08-2008, 09:38 AM
well, technically, it DOES give him new chakra, as it allows him to tap into parts of chakra he wasn't able to use in normal form. The frog even said so himself that that is why Jiraiya changed slightly into a frog, because he hasn't mastered the form. It allows more, other jutsus with an increase in chakra as it brings in a new form of chakra.

I always though that sage chakra more power to your jutsus not more chakra to draw out and use.

Cuz he has to mix it with his regular chakra,no?

FerN
08-08-2008, 09:41 AM
His Deidara fight was totally legit. And he doesen't need another win. He needs a loss to knock his own conseption of his strength down.

Gaara and Kakashi softened him up with the no arms factor, but yes it was al real fight as Dei threw out everything he had at him

Seraphiel
08-08-2008, 09:44 AM
Gaara and Kakashi softened him up with the no arms factor, but yes it was al real fight as Dei threw out everything he had at him

eh...idk if u noticed but he actually has arms he can use with no drawbacks in that fight.

FerN
08-08-2008, 09:53 AM
eh...idk if u noticed but he actually has arms he can use with no drawbacks in that fight.

Im sorry, just looked over it again and you're right. Total legit fight

Hyugumaki
08-08-2008, 10:02 AM
I enjoyed this chapter. Not a ton happened, but it was still entertaining. It's been a while but this page (http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/412/012/) made me laugh pretty good. I haven't let loose a laugh like that in a while :D. I dunno what to expect next week with this occurance. Obviously Naruto won't turn into a frog (it's Naruto) but that doesn't mean I don't want to see how he dodges the bullet for that recklessness. Very good stuff here Kishi, I'm glad you're giving us more than just a fight this time around.

I still call Karin's sudden healing abilities kinda lame (for all the bites in her arm, I wonder where they came from or if they're just scars). I like the idea that you have to bite and suck to recharge, but it still seems last minute thought up. I will say that I knew there was more to her than just sensing chakra, there'd have to be, but what it was let me down.

Oh, and it's looking like Sauske should have taken Itachi's eyes. Then he'd be ripping out abilities like there's no tomorrow and wtf pwn this guy.

KageNaruto
08-08-2008, 10:11 AM
For a chapter with fighting, a whole lot happened. It's amazing how much fighting Kishi can fit into one chapter and still make it flow incredibly well.

"for all the bites in her arm, I wonder where they came from or if they're just scars"

They came from people biting her to heal, and are the leftover teeth marks. I guess people have to bite her quite hard...

Hyugumaki
08-08-2008, 10:18 AM
Yeah, I suppose so, but man are those scars are bad if they're that dark. Maybe they're like wounds that won't ever fully heal.

Seraphiel
08-08-2008, 10:25 AM
For a chapter with fighting, a whole lot happened. It's amazing how much fighting Kishi can fit into one chapter and still make it flow incredibly well.

"for all the bites in her arm, I wonder where they came from or if they're just scars"

They came from people biting her to heal, and are the leftover teeth marks. I guess people have to bite her quite hard...
Shee seems to enjoy it:D
Yeah, I suppose so, but man are those scars are bad if they're that dark. Maybe they're like wounds that won't ever fully heal.

Over analyzing much?


Those are just scars.

Hellspawn0707
08-08-2008, 10:33 AM
It was pretty interesting after the hit from Juugo and a chidori the 8tails doesn't seem to be phased even in the least. I now Sasuke has MS and he is Kishi's pet but I believe another member from Akastuki is gonna have to bail him out. Sasuke and Dei had a great up and up fight, he was no match for Itachi and the 8 tails seems powerful in his own right. Hopefully Kisame and Zetsu come and save their asses. I really want to those 2 fight.

Spirit-Sage
08-08-2008, 10:59 AM
The 8 tails is becoming my favorite character fast, you have all the jinchurriki going "you don't know our pain" and this guy comes along "yea bitch, you know you want them tails"

papfles
08-08-2008, 11:00 AM
If zetsu was even in the vicinity, he would've heard sasuke saying that he is using akatsuki to his advantage, meaning "problems" for sasuke.

And seeing how he would then have to bail out these four, it'll spell out "disaster" for sasuke and his team.

AND if zetsu (and / or Kisame) are around, it also means that akatsuki don't trust team Hawk, which will only lead to tension.

you have all the jinchurriki going "you don't know our pain"

Only Gaara and Naruto were like that. We haven't really seen any other jinchuuriki that much to judge whether they were alike (three-tails was a beast, and two-tails didn't complain. She just died.)

Seraphiel
08-08-2008, 11:07 AM
Btw did you guys see how juugo launched Sasu,rolf if he misses or hits won't it be a hard impact.

blind
08-08-2008, 11:52 AM
Actually, I'm more interested in why Suigetsu isn't more injured, being shocked in water form and all. Although humans aren't that similar, we aren't exact made 100% of water...

Seraphiel
08-08-2008, 11:54 AM
Actually, I'm more interested in why Suigetsu isn't more injured, being shocked in water form and all. Although humans aren't that similar, we aren't exact made 100% of water...

well maybe the water got shocked not his internal organs,I know it sounds dumb but u know what I mean.

blind
08-08-2008, 11:59 AM
No, what I meant was he was just injured like anyone hit by Chidori is, all while being in water form, I'd think he'd be more injured in water form as it'd conduct more electricity.

Either way, doesn't really matter, Hawk showed some teamwork, which was nice to see I guess.

iluminada333
08-08-2008, 12:00 PM
I didn't like the concept of the poll, i wanted to choose more than one :/ actually everything seemed possible lol

Now i the narutoverse everyone seems to get so much mre powerful, they are so powerful that i start to dislike it:( at first juugo seemed like a god to me but now meh, Hawk seems so inexperienced and clumsy they didn't seem to put a lot of thinking into the process, not info gathering, no traps, nothing like a pro ninja, nowhere near post time shikamaru. I'm so disappointed... I just hope that naruto part goes well... (or a blind hope that everything is still a genjutsu )

PS: if one bite heals, i dunno what could sucking do o.O

Seraphiel
08-08-2008, 12:01 PM
No, what I meant was he was just injured like anyone hit by Chidori is, all while being in water form, I'd think he'd be more injured in water form as it'd conduct more electricity.

Either way, doesn't really matter, Hawk showed some teamwork, which was nice to see I guess.

Well yeah.


Btw what do you think is the 8 tails stronger than most of konoha jounin?

blind
08-08-2008, 12:02 PM
Well yeah.


Btw what do you think is the 8 tails stronger than most of konoha jounin?

Obviously the 8 tail, as evident of Sasuke getting whooped, even with the rest of the team's help.

Seraphiel
08-08-2008, 12:03 PM
Obviously the 8 tail, as evident of Sasuke getting whooped, even with the rest of the team's help.

Ok cuz I was getting worried at how sasuke would attack konoha if he can't beat the 8tails alone.

SpikeUchiha
08-08-2008, 12:07 PM
I enjoyed this chapter. Not a ton happened, but it was still entertaining. It's been a while but this page (http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/412/012/) made me laugh pretty good. I haven't let loose a laugh like that in a while :D. I dunno what to expect next week with this occurance. Obviously Naruto won't turn into a frog (it's Naruto) but that doesn't mean I don't want to see how he dodges the bullet for that recklessness. Very good stuff here Kishi, I'm glad you're giving us more than just a fight this time around.

I still call Karin's sudden healing abilities kinda lame (for all the bites in her arm, I wonder where they came from or if they're just scars). I like the idea that you have to bite and suck to recharge, but it still seems last minute thought up. I will say that I knew there was more to her than just sensing chakra, there'd have to be, but what it was let me down.

Oh, and it's looking like Sauske should have taken Itachi's eyes. Then he'd be ripping out abilities like there's no tomorrow and wtf pwn this guy.

yea i agree i can see sasuke be like i almost lost...i need more ---Power!

blind
08-08-2008, 12:08 PM
Ok cuz I was getting worried at how sasuke would attack konoha if he can't beat the 8tails alone.

He would undoubtedly get destroyed if he goes right now. However, keep in mind that he's going with Madara, and he'll probably try to avoid all fights (Sasuke that is) since his target is the Elders, and possibly let Madara take care of the other shinobis. Also, he'll most likely have the power of the 8 tail with him when he does go.

Seraphiel
08-08-2008, 12:10 PM
He would undoubtedly get destroyed if he goes right now. However, keep in mind that he's going with Madara, and he'll probably try to avoid all fights (Sasuke that is) since his target is the Elders, and possibly let Madara take care of the other shinobis. Also, he'll most likely have the power of the 8 tail with him when he does go.

That thing become more of a possibility when we saw the host use raiton,maybe the 8 tails amplifies it.


Although I wouldn't like to see that.

blind
08-08-2008, 12:13 PM
We'll see when he releases his Bijuu form completely, I doubt he could amplify anything though, it's probably just a result of his training.

Hopefully we'll see more of Naruto two weeks from now, him jumping in the oil was priceless, possibly doing the old Jiraiya/Gamabunta thing again, pushing himself to the limit so he could complete his training.

Seraphiel
08-08-2008, 12:17 PM
We'll see when he releases his Bijuu form completely, I doubt he could amplify anything though, it's probably just a result of his training.

Hopefully we'll see more of Naruto two weeks from now, him jumping in the oil was priceless, possibly doing the old Jiraiya/Gamabunta thing again, pushing himself to the limit so he could complete his training.

Damn I forgot we don't get naruto for one week.

Well I hope this ends soon as I don't like 8tails at all.

blind
08-08-2008, 12:19 PM
Well I hope this ends soon as I don't like 8tails at all.

All because he's killing Sasuke? :p

And it's weird how 8TJ didn't suffer any wounds from getting hit by Chidori, unless he can also conduct lightning chakra all over himself like Sasuke does with Chidori Nagashi, don't see how that's possible. It just looked like he got shocked.

Seraphiel
08-08-2008, 12:21 PM
All because he's killing Sasuke? :p

And it's weird how 8TJ didn't suffer any wounds from getting hit by Chidori, unless he can also conduct lightning chakra all over himself like Sasuke does with Chidori Nagashi, don't see how that's possible. It just looked like he got shocked.

Sasukes hand was inside him,he was surprised,and shocked and yet no wound.

And no cuz he acts stupid,Itachi was kicking sasus ass but I like him as a char.

SpikeUchiha
08-08-2008, 12:25 PM
All because he's killing Sasuke? :p

And it's weird how 8TJ didn't suffer any wounds from getting hit by Chidori, unless he can also conduct lightning chakra all over himself like Sasuke does with Chidori Nagashi, don't see how that's possible. It just looked like he got shocked.

it seems that sasukes lightning moves are no match for lightning user...its funny i thought kakashi is the only one used lighting

blind
08-08-2008, 12:30 PM
it seems that sasukes lightning moves are no match for lightning user...its funny i thought kakashi is the only one used lighting

Well, as one of the five affinities to choose from, it's not that surprising that someone from lighning country (not saying there is a big correlation) can use lightning jutsus...:p

RamenRasengan
08-08-2008, 12:46 PM
Thank you blind. Someone finally pointed out the obvious. I was about to bitch slap everyone out of frustration :p

That was a great chapter though. I'm glad naruto jumped in the pool. Means he gets a move on with his training. I don't see how hawk can win this one, especially if 8TJ is gona up the level. Either its a new technique for sasuke, Hawk flees, or atkatsuki to the rescue. Also is the 8TJ a dragon or an octopus or what?

blind
08-08-2008, 12:52 PM
Thank you blind. Someone finally pointed out the obvious. I was about to bitch slap everyone out of frustration :p

That was a great chapter though. I'm glad naruto jumped in the pool. Means he gets a move on with his training. I don't see how hawk can win this one, especially if 8TJ is gona up the level. Either its a new technique for sasuke, Hawk flees, or atkatsuki to the rescue. Also is the 8TJ a dragon or an octopus or what?

I'm willing to bet it's a new jutsu for Sasuke...

And from what we've seen of his shadow, he's an octopus.

Liquid
08-08-2008, 01:00 PM
LOL Five seconds into a real fight and sasuke gets whooped to where Suige and Karin have to save him. LOL That was one of the most entertaining things I've read all year.

But anyways in response to some of the above post:

The 8tails is prob high jounin class and sasuke just isn't ready yet. Not without using MS anyway. Personally I'm not convinced he can even handle someone like Gai or Kakashi let alone Danzou and the Elders.

Also sasuke should know what happens to a host whenever a tailed beast is extracted. So I wonder why he would accept taking in the power of the 8tails as a jinchuruki if he knows that all the power of each tailed beast is supposed to go inside that statue. That's akatsuki's plan. Why would he think they would let him keep the power?

I think he should rely on his sharingan and eventually EMS when he finally gets it in his head to accept his brother's eyes.

Seraphiel
08-08-2008, 01:02 PM
LOL Five seconds into a real fight and sasuke gets whooped to where Suige and Karin have to save him. LOL That was one of the most entertaining things I've read all year.

But anyways in response to some of the above post:

The 8tails is prob high jounin class and sasuke just isn't ready yet. Not without using MS anyway. Personally I'm not convinced he can even handle someone like Gai or Kakashi let alone Danzou and the Elders.

Also sasuke should know what happens to a host whenever a tailed beast is extracted. So I wonder why he would accept taking in the power of the 8tails as a jinchuruki if he knows that all the power of each tailed beast is supposed to go inside that statue. That's akatsuki's plan. Why would he think they would let him keep the power?

I think he should rely on his sharingan and eventually EMS when he finally gets it in his head to accept his brother's eyes.


Actually I'm pretty sure he could beat them both.

And as for the elders we don't know what their powers are.

blind
08-08-2008, 01:04 PM
Actually I'm pretty sure he could beat them both.

And as for the elders we don't know what their powers are.

I'd say it'll be a tie, if he fight either Gai or Kakashi, and as for the Elders, it's safe to say that they have little to no abilities left, otherwise they'd be out there fighting during CE and not just sitting pretty in their protective shelter.

Seraphiel
08-08-2008, 01:06 PM
I'd say it'll be a tie, if he fight either Gai or Kakashi, and as for the Elders, it's safe to say that they have little to no abilities left, otherwise they'd be out there fighting during CE and not just sitting pretty in their protective shelter.

Tie is good enough btw I wasn't thinking he would be using MS,with ms I think he could beat gai.


back to topic.

Blind how do you think they are going to capture/knock out the 8 tails.

blind
08-08-2008, 01:09 PM
back to topic.

Blind how do you think they are going to capture/knock out the 8 tails.

Suigetsu has shown the ability to restrain, Juugo can change his body to pretty much whatever he wants, Sasuke's MS could somehow break down one's spirits, take your pick, or a combination.

papfles
08-08-2008, 01:14 PM
it seems that sasukes lightning moves are no match for lightning user...its funny i thought kakashi is the only one used lighting

There have to be other lightning users, especially since lightning is just a regular element, just like water, fire and such. The rarest of those "normal" elements is wind, as described when Naruto found out his element (and amplified by that wig-chick from the fillers >_>)

Seraphiel
08-08-2008, 01:14 PM
Suigetsu has shown the ability to restrain, Juugo can change his body to pretty much whatever he wants, Sasuke's MS could somehow break down one's spirits, take your pick, or a combination.

LOL did u see how he launched sasuke.

Btw maybe his 8 tails form can absorb electricity and sasuke overloads him with kirin?

Would be kickass.

blind
08-08-2008, 01:17 PM
LOL did u see how he launched sasuke.

Btw maybe his 8 tails form can absorb electricity and sasuke overloads him with kirin?

Would be kickass.

So? Suigetsu was able to hold him down for a while, if Juugo came and and helped, and Sasuke's MS works, then it'd be done.

Seraphiel
08-08-2008, 01:19 PM
So? Suigetsu was able to hold him down for a while, if Juugo came and and helped, and Sasuke's MS works, then it'd be done.

I meant about juugo launching Sasuke.

blind
08-08-2008, 01:21 PM
I meant about juugo launching Sasuke.

...what does that have to do with capturing them...?

Seraphiel
08-08-2008, 01:23 PM
...what does that have to do with capturing them...?

Nothing I was just asking if u noticed it,lol.

blind
08-08-2008, 01:25 PM
Nothing I was just asking if u noticed it,lol.

Of course...

Either way, I predict we'll see 8 tail in his transformed state in the next chapter, as well as Naruto struggling continue (on a much larger scale, obvoiusly).

Hyugumaki
08-08-2008, 01:28 PM
I wonder how "Impervious" 8-tails will be to Sauske's MS. We've obviously seen that Suaske's lightning is pretty much useless (good bye most of Sauske's abilities), so what does that leave Sauske with? MS. Taijutsu doesn't really look effective against this brick-wall of a man.

Maybe we'll see a rebirth of Susanoo(spelling?) ...

blind
08-08-2008, 01:29 PM
I wonder how "Impervious" 8-tails will be to Sauske's MS. We've obviously seen that Suaske's lightning is pretty much useless (good bye most of Sauske's abilities), so what does that leave Sauske with? MS. Taijutsu doesn't really look effective against this brick-wall of a man.

Maybe we'll see a rebirth of Susanoo(spelling?) ...

I'd hope not, especially when he doesn't even have Itachi's eyes yet, or the fact that Madara isn't there to let him unleash Itachi's MS jutsus.

This will take a lot more teamwork. True, they're working together already, but they could be better.

NARUTO77
08-08-2008, 01:29 PM
I think sasuke will be beaten down real bad to point of death and karin will sacrifice herself for sasuke to revive him and finally well see a stronger sasuke emerge he will raise the level were he will make naruto look weak and pain rethink his plan because susake will be too strong to defeat

Hmmm i think jiraiya is still alive undercover

blind
08-08-2008, 01:31 PM
I think sasuke will be beaten down real bad to point of death and karin will sacrifice herself for sasuke to revive him and finally well see a stronger sasuke emerge he will raise the level were he will make naruto look weak and pain rethink his plan because susake will be too strong to defeat

:welcome: to NC, NAURTO77, and post everywhere.

I wouldn't mind Karin sacrificing herself, but we've already seen Sasuke depend on her once already, I doubt we'll see a repeat of a similar ability.

And does Sasuke not make Naruto look weak at the moment...? Even if he does grow stronger, Pein should still not think he'll be an issue.

Also, do not double post, use the edit button at the end of you post to add on to it.

Seraphiel
08-08-2008, 01:32 PM
I think sasuke will be beaten down real bad to point of death and karin will sacrifice herself for sasuke to revive him and finally well see a stronger sasuke emerge he will raise the level were he will make naruto look weak and pain rethink his plan because susake will be too strong to defeat

This is not Dragon Ball,if he gets revived he won't get Stronger.

He will prolly end it with MS and I don't see any1 dying.

blind
08-08-2008, 01:33 PM
This is not Daron Ball,if he gets revived he won't get Stronger.

He will prolly end it with MS and I don't see any1 dying.

Dragon Ball....

No doubt Sasuke will have to use his own MS, using Itachi's would be lame, and defeat the purpose of this fight.

Hyugumaki
08-08-2008, 01:35 PM
I'd hope not, especially when he doesn't even have Itachi's eyes yet, or the fact that Madara isn't there to let him unleash Itachi's MS jutsus.

Oh, I don't want to see it at all and I agree with you. I could just see something like that happen. At any rate, we just don't have a lot for Sauske to go on. He's going to have to use MS or his teammates more because there's really nothing else he can do imo.

I think sasuke will be beaten down real bad to point of death and karin will sacrifice herself for sasuke to revive him

It would be nice to see a Snawk member die and I'm sure Kishi wouldn't mind killing them off but remember his editor doesn't want that so it's not going to happen.

Hmmm i think jiraiya is still alive undercover

Sorry, he's dead. I miss him too, but that's the truth. Asuma isn't coming back, Itachi isn't coming back. Kishi has killed these characters for important purposes. To bring them back would be very detrimental to his story.

Seraphiel
08-08-2008, 01:36 PM
Dragon Ball....

No doubt Sasuke will have to use his own MS, using Itachi's would be lame, and defeat the purpose of this fight.

LOL I officially apologize to Akira Toriyama and blind for misspelling dragon.


ur right using Itachis would be lame but then again if he won by using Itachis it would be even more interesting when he finally uses his own.

NARUTO77
08-08-2008, 01:37 PM
I think as the chosen one naruto will grow strong enough to unlock the demon fox himself realize that he is stronger then the fox when he battles pain or pain will release the demon fox to control it to destroy the village and naruto will face the ninetails put the fox in its place tell him hes in charge like in the new shippuuden episode when he stabs himself in the leg tells the demon fox he is in control hmmm i wonder how strong he is with five tails out

-Erios-
08-08-2008, 01:37 PM
Woah!! nice chapter so the wait was worth it......
seems like Mr. 8 tails is really having a hard time with hawk Team work guys team work if only they have find out first and his and where will his 8 tail will grow??? kidding I think he will be going into bijuu mode next chap and freaking Naruto jumping into the pool of oil ROLF

blind
08-08-2008, 01:37 PM
Sorry, he's dead. I miss him too, but that's the truth. Asuma isn't coming back, Itachi isn't coming back. Kishi has killed these characters for important purposes. To bring them back would be very detrimental to his story.

Agreed, where would Naruto/Fukusaku's motivation be if Jiraiya comes back to life? Everything that Pa toad has told Naruto about how Jiraiya had to train hard to achieve his sage technique would have been for naught.

NARUTO77
08-08-2008, 01:41 PM
Actually at his death he did say he was starting a new story dont you think he is recovering waiting see too the scale of pains plan dont you think the frogs would have given him a proper burial and recovered his body besides i think the big boss son will have big part in defeating the nine tail fox i think he will be narutos frog like big boss was jirayas they will kick butt

Hyugumaki
08-08-2008, 01:43 PM
I think as the chosen one naruto will grow strong enough to unlock the demon fox himself realize that he is stronger then the fox when he battles pain

I like this and agree with you in this sentiment. I think that Naruto is going to use the Nine Tails power to an extent but I don't think he's going to do it by going "Tailed" like he did before. He can use the Chakra without the fox taking over a portion of his body/mind.

Jiraiya trained him to use the kyuubi's power and I think for Naruto to learn Senjutsu would actually enhance his controll over the Kyuubi since (IMO) the Kyuubi and other Tailed beasts are some what of Natural Energy.

or pain will release the demon fox to control it to destroy the village and naruto will face the ninetails put the fox in its place tell him hes in charge like in the new shippuuden episode when he stabs himself in the leg tells the demon fox he is in control hmmm i wonder how strong he is with five tails out

You spoke the devils words in Church! I try to not use Shippuuden stuff in the manga section, especially Filler stuff.

Pain needs the statue to control the tailed beasts. I don't think he can control them outside of that.

blind
08-08-2008, 01:43 PM
Woah!! nice chapter so the wait was worth it......
seems like Mr. 8 tails is really having a hard time with hawk Team work guys team work if only they have find out first and his and where will his 8 tail will grow??? kidding I think he will be going into bijuu mode next chap and freaking Naruto jumping into the pool of oil ROLF

How was he having trouble? It was 4v1, and he still got out without a scratch...

Actually at his death he did say he was starting a new story dont you think he is recovering waiting see too the scale of pains plan dont you think the frogs would have given him a proper burial and recovered his body besides i think the big boss son will have big part in defeating the nine tail fox i think he will be narutos frog like big boss was jirayas they will kick butt

No, he's dead. Even if he was still alive, he's still at the bottom of the lake, unless he can breathe underwater...

Hyugumaki
08-08-2008, 01:46 PM
the big boss son will have big part in defeating the nine tail fox i think he will be narutos frog like big boss was jirayas they will kick butt

I see Gamakichi becoming more important to the story, but I don't think there's really going to be a faceoff between Naruto and the Kyuubi like Minato. Any struggle he has is going to be internal. If the kyuubi is extracted, Naruto is going to die, nuff said.

I can see Gamabunta is to Jiraiya as Gamakichi is to Naruto. I think Gamabunta was smaller and younger when Jiraiya was just a kid and they had the same relationship as Naruto and Gamakichi does. It's one of those many connections Kishi likes to make between the students and the teachers.

-Erios-
08-08-2008, 01:51 PM
How was he having trouble? It was 4v1, and he still got out without a scratch...

he said it himself that he was having a hard time didnt he???

Liquid
08-08-2008, 01:54 PM
About Gai and Kakashi:

Some think that they would fight Sasuke to a tie. That's fine. But I say Sasuke hasn't shown me enough in a real fight for me to agree with that one. For now anyways. The only real fight he's won imo was against Deidera. And do I think Deidera can beat Gai or Kakashi? No. So until he proves himself against someone their match, then I'll give him all the credit he deserves.

About Danzou and the Elders:

Yeah the elders are sitting around imposing their will on Tsunade, Konoha, international affairs, etc. But I won't rule out the possibility that they can still throw down if necessary. But as evil usually does, they'd rather sit back and watch others do it. I consider the facts that Danzou rivaled the 3rd for the hokage title and the elders trained with the 3rd under the 2nd (and maybe 1st) hokage. We don't know exactly how powerful they all are but I doubt Konoha pays too much attention to the advice and words of weaklings. No I think they're strong. Still are too. Look at Chiyo-sama. She was very old but still had enough to throw down against Sasori.

NARUTO77
08-08-2008, 01:57 PM
I dont think he would have choosen naruto to carry the ninetailed fox unless he knew naruto was capable of one day defeating the ninetails when naruto was cut off from the ninetails power when he first went after lady tsunade to become hokage his chakara was cut off from the demon fox he used his own will to live i think at one point naruto must take full control of the demon fox make pact just like jaraiya did with big boss toad with the scroll ochiramoo had the snake lady tsunade had the snail oe leech naruto will control the fox

NARUTO77
08-08-2008, 01:59 PM
And i think naruto will have his own form of sharingan eye to defeat sasuke with the help of the power given to him by sasuke brother

blind
08-08-2008, 02:00 PM
he said it himself that he was having a hard time didnt he???

He said they were a Pain, but that was it...

http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/412/016/

And i think naruto will have his own form of sharingan eye to defeat sasuke with the help of the power given to him by sasuke brother

lol, I doubt it. If Itachi gave him Sharingan, how did he still have his Sharingan when he fought Sasuke?

NARUTO77
08-08-2008, 02:03 PM
how was he having trouble? It was 4v1, and he still got out without a scratch...



No, he's dead. Even if he was still alive, he's still at the bottom of the lake, unless he can breathe underwater...

lol remember frogs can hold their breth a long time under water lol

-Erios-
08-08-2008, 02:05 PM
It might be true guy might not be on pair with Sasuke but Kakahi I believe he might defeat Sasuke I mean he has improved a lot

Naruto having the sharingan is retarded. Kishi better think twice, I have killed for less

Hyugumaki
08-08-2008, 02:05 PM
I dont think he would have choosen naruto to carry the ninetailed fox unless he knew naruto was capable of one day defeating the ninetails when naruto was cut off from the ninetails power when he first went after lady tsunade to become hokage his chakara was cut off from the demon fox he used his own will to live i think at one point naruto must take full control of the demon fox make pact just like jaraiya did with big boss toad with the scroll ochiramoo had the snake lady tsunade had the snail oe leech naruto will control the fox

So you're saying that by signing the contract, they immediately become the dominant ones over what they're summoning?

No. The signing of the scroll allows the one who signed the scroll the ability to use chakra to "summon" or move that animal through a different dimension to their position. Everything else is up to the animal itself. Let's remember that Naruto had to prove to Gamabunta that he was a capable fighter to fight along side.

We don't know why Minato wanted Naruto to have the Kyuubi. Maybe Minato knew that he was going to have a the son who was the "Chosen One" and he was destined to do it this way or bla bla bla. For right now, that's all up in the air.

lol remember frogs can hold their breth a long time under water lol

Since when was Jiraiya a frog? His Sage mode allowed him to do Senjutsu but didn't actually make him a frog. It made his body look like a frog, but that's about it. When he was plummiting into darkness, he wasn't in Sage mode (couldn't without the help of Ma and Pa).

NARUTO77
08-08-2008, 02:07 PM
he said they were a pain, but that was it...

http://www.onemanga.com/naruto/412/016/



lol, i doubt it. If itachi gave him sharingan, how did he still have his sharingan when he fought sasuke?

he did say he gave him some of his power so he might have the sharigan eye just not as strong but with narutos power might creat a new for of the sharingan eye with same ability to sum degree

so you're saying that by signing the contract, they immediately become the dominant ones over what they're summoning?

No. The signing of the scroll allows the one who signed the scroll the ability to use chakra to "summon" or move that animal through a different dimension to their position. Everything else is up to the animal itself. Let's remember that naruto had to prove to gamabunta that he was a capable fighter to fight along side.

We don't know why minato wanted naruto to have the kyuubi. Maybe minato knew that he was going to have a the son who was the "chosen one" and he was destined to do it this way or bla bla bla. For right now, that's all up in the air.
exactlly he would have to prove his strenth to the ninetail fox up to now the fox has disrespected naruto saying that the ninetails was the one who had the power that naruto was too weak to save sasuke if he gets enough power he can control the fox demon

NordicPrincess
08-08-2008, 02:10 PM
Next chapter will most likely be boring. The 8-tailed will do something with his next sword and everyone will get hurt. And lalalala the chapter will end with someone in the team finding something out about something.

-Erios-
08-08-2008, 02:10 PM
How would you know your son is gonna be the chosen one?? I think that Naruto was his only choice for the sealing

NARUTO77
08-08-2008, 02:11 PM
so you're saying that by signing the contract, they immediately become the dominant ones over what they're summoning?

No. The signing of the scroll allows the one who signed the scroll the ability to use chakra to "summon" or move that animal through a different dimension to their position. Everything else is up to the animal itself. Let's remember that naruto had to prove to gamabunta that he was a capable fighter to fight along side.

We don't know why minato wanted naruto to have the kyuubi. Maybe minato knew that he was going to have a the son who was the "chosen one" and he was destined to do it this way or bla bla bla. For right now, that's all up in the air.



Since when was jiraiya a frog? His sage mode allowed him to do senjutsu but didn't actually make him a frog. It made his body look like a frog, but that's about it. When he was plummiting into darkness, he wasn't in sage mode (couldn't without the help of ma and pa).

lol give me a break jariya was kool get him back lol i dont know ever hear mouth to mouth lol revive his ass lol

Hyugumaki
08-08-2008, 02:12 PM
he did say he gave him some of his power so he might have the sharigan eye just not as strong but with narutos power might creat a new for of the sharingan eye with same ability to sum degree

I see what you're saying, but the science around the Sharingan is that it's a genetic ability that is only present in the Uchiha. Unless Itachi changed Naruto's genetic make-up (I highly doubt), he probably only put a sleeper ability or truth or something inside naruto that will only awaken when he fights Sauske.

lol give me a break jariya was kool get him back lol i dont know ever hear mouth to mouth lol revive his ass lol

:P

You're bringing up a lot of good debatable stuff, and I'm enjoying it. Like I said, I miss Jiraiya too, he was a good character!

NARUTO77
08-08-2008, 02:14 PM
exactlly he would have to prove his strenth to the ninetail fox up to now the fox has disrespected naruto saying that the ninetails was the one who had the power that naruto was too weak to save sasuke if he gets enough power he can control the fox demon

unless he choose naruto to plan ahead to use the demon fox in the future we he could not be discovered as a traitor to the village and pain is narutos father he will have to defeat the one person he has always looked up too thats when he will find out who his father really was

NARUTO77
08-08-2008, 02:16 PM
i see what you're saying, but the science around the sharingan is that it's a genetic ability that is only present in the uchiha. Unless itachi changed naruto's genetic make-up (i highly doubt), he probably only put a sleeper ability or truth or something inside naruto that will only awaken when he fights sauske.



:p

you're bringing up a lot of good debatable stuff, and i'm enjoying it. Like i said, i miss jiraiya too, he was a good character!

what bloodline was narutos mother and who is to say naruto dose not have uchia bloodline might be weak maybe his grandfather or sumthing

-Erios-
08-08-2008, 02:18 PM
unless he choose naruto to plan ahead to use the demon fox in the future we he could not be discovered as a traitor to the village and pain is narutos father he will have to defeat the one person he has always looked up too thats when he will find out who his father really was

Wait what!! are you listening to what you are saying....???:confused:

Hyugumaki
08-08-2008, 02:20 PM
How would you know your son is gonna be the chosen one?? I think that Naruto was his only choice for the sealing

Great Sage Toad said so?

Obviously I'm stretching it and don't believe my own words, but it's just another stab at what could be the reason :D.

exactlly he would have to prove his strenth to the ninetail fox up to now the fox has disrespected naruto saying that the ninetails was the one who had the power that naruto was too weak to save sasuke if he gets enough power he can control the fox demon

Hey, I see what you're saying, but the difference is that the Kyuubi isn't like a summoning beast. There are many different toads, and slugs and snakes that can be called into existance via summoning. There's only one kyuubi (tailed beast) and he's made up of pure Chakra rather than an actual birthed and grown toad, slug, snake, etc.... The mechanics are different in what they are.

Oh and please just use the "Edit" button rather than double post. You're going to upset some mods if you keep it up.

unless he choose naruto to plan ahead to use the demon fox in the future we he could not be discovered as a traitor to the village and pain is narutos father he will have to defeat the one person he has always looked up too thats when he will find out who his father really was

And Sakura is his sister ....
NARUTO COME TO THE DARK SIDE!!!!

CheerUp
08-08-2008, 02:27 PM
First of all, hi everyone :)

Isn't any of you thinking of the sudden stupidity Sasuke shows? At first I thought he was just toying with 8, but to be really stabbed and rely on the chick to salvage him ...
Also Sui asked Sasuke to start fighting with the intent to kill in order to at least damage the rapper :).

The real fight hasn't even begun, but as I already said, its strange that Sasuke let himself "at the mercy" of Karin. Does he really trust her that much? Strange, for an avenger.

I foresee the following stuff:
1. Still think Sasuke can/will own 8 tails. It is one thing for Sasuke to mess up, but Madara failing to appreciate that Sasuke is weaker than 8 tails would mean a lot of things ... So next 1-3 chapters the fight will get serious, with another 1-2 chapters for showing-off Sasuke's new moves.
2. The current Naruto won't improve that much. He will need, as usually, a very intense emotional stress to be able to focus for real. But can't tell how he can get to that point ..

-Erios-
08-08-2008, 02:27 PM
Great Sage Toad said so?

Obviously I'm stretching it and don't believe my own words, but it's just another stab at what could be the reason :D.

Hmm... I dont remember reading that
what I remember was when the Great sage summon j-man to tell him he would rise wait lemme found the page

Hyugumaki
08-08-2008, 02:27 PM
Hmm... I dont remember reading that
what I remember was when the Great sage summon j-man to tell him he would rise wait lemme found the page

I'm simply speculating. It never happened.

NARUTO77
08-08-2008, 02:31 PM
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at one time the tails demons were all free they were captured when it was discovered that they could control their powers so in a way they are like the toads free wild animals so naruto can control it like jaraiya made pact with big boss toad

NARUTO77
08-08-2008, 02:34 PM
what i mean is the forth hokage might have been power hungry and feared to be discovered so he choose to put the demon fox inside naruto so he could take over the other villages as king in the future useing the ninetail fox demon

-Erios-
08-08-2008, 02:36 PM
@ NARUTO77 seriously stop double posting edit your previous post and then add what you missed

and are you really listening to what you are saying....... hmmm I dont know what to say
what i mean is the forth hokage might have been power hungry and feared to be discovered so he choose to put the demon fox inside naruto so he could take over the other villages as king in the future useing the ninetail fox demon

Hyugumaki
08-08-2008, 02:39 PM
at one time the tails demons were all free they were captured when it was discovered that they could control their powers so in a way they are like the toads free wild animals so naruto can control it like jaraiya made pact with big boss toad

Yes, they were free, the four tails proves that, but you're not paying attention to the mechanics of the Naruto-verse. The Tailed Demons are not animals like the toad, slug, snake, etc... they are wrought of pure chakra (there's speculation that they are comprised spiritual and nature energy) and are considered Natural Disaster (at least the Kyuubi is :D).

I agree with you that Naruto will some day become dominant of the Kyuubi, but it's not going to be by these methods. Seeing how 8-tails was trainng before the battle, the tailed beast can become an extension of ones self.

what bloodline was narutos mother and who is to say naruto dose not have uchia bloodline might be weak maybe his grandfather or sumthing

She was from a different country. She didn't have anything to do with the Uchiha. I also highly doubt the Uchiha allowed branching out before the structuing of the hidden villages.

NordicPrincess
08-08-2008, 02:42 PM
what i mean is the forth hokage might have been power hungry and feared to be discovered so he choose to put the demon fox inside naruto so he could take over the other villages as king in the future useing the ninetail fox demon


Youīre saying the fourth wanted to take over the other villagers? :confused:

NARUTO77
08-08-2008, 02:46 PM
Youīre saying the fourth wanted to take over the other villagers? :confused:

maybe he wanted to rule over everything as king and saw the demon fox as the key to the power needed to over power all the villages

yea because the human rapper guy semms to control the eight tail demon

Hyugumaki
08-08-2008, 02:49 PM
maybe he wanted to rule over everything as king and saw the demon fox as the key to the power needed to over power all the villages

You're obviously mistaking Minato for Madara LOL :D

Anyone find it interesting that after being splashed with just a little bit of "special frog oil (http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/412/008/)" Naruto started to transform. He was sitting still and everything! Can you imagine him trying to be still when trying to swim around in the stuff??? Instant Gama-Naruto. I can't wait for next chapter and more Naruto Training.

Oh yeah, the Sauske fight is interesting and all but I still care more about Naruto's training :/.

Hellspawn0707
08-08-2008, 02:50 PM
The 4th Hokage being evil and taking over villages.Why would a villian sacrafice his life for a village?

NordicPrincess
08-08-2008, 02:52 PM
maybe he wanted to rule over everything as king and saw the demon fox as the key to the power needed to over power all the villages

No just no. First of all we know he was good and second of all heīs Narutos father so it would ruin everything if his father had been evil.
Besides Naruto especially looks up to the fourth so by turning him evil would probably make Naruto donīt want to become Hokage.

-Erios-
08-08-2008, 02:52 PM
NARUTO77 This is the 3 or 4th time someone has warned you about double posting if you keep this up you surely are gonna get banned

and yeah I was thinking the same thing how dumb of naruto was that but we know our Naruto always unpredictable

NARUTO77
08-08-2008, 02:53 PM
yeah i just hope its not a green rasengan lol give me a break give him some real power you know super frog speed and strenth lol spit some acid like jaraiya

Valleyman
08-08-2008, 02:54 PM
NARUTO77 stop double posting.





This was a fantastic chapter. I didn't like Hawk much but even I(of all people) like Sasuke a little when he works that well with his team.

But for those that think that the 8TJ was running away because he's weak, he basically just found it to be a pain and probably thought there is no merit in fighting them so he'd just leave. After all they came to him he wasn't after them. Also he never said they were hard to fight he just said they're a pain.

But Sasuke is probably going to end up winning because he hasn't even used MS yet...

-Erios-
08-08-2008, 02:59 PM
I didnt know frogs where known for their speed.... Naruto is gonna have jumping powers LOL

aside from that yeah seems like the 8 tails is gonna take the fight seriously now

vieo
08-08-2008, 03:25 PM
IMO, the Number 8 is going to be his 8th tentacle/tail. He probably has chakra tentacles like Naruto's chakra tails, but unlike Naruto, each of his tentacles have a power/ability that's unique to each different tentacle. I'm also willing to bet the 8th tentacle has the weakest power/ability, and the 1st tentacle holds the most dangerous of all his abilities. lol.

NARUTO77
08-08-2008, 03:33 PM
how about if sasuke ends up hurting sakura real bad might help naruto true power evolve seems naruto is holding back because he never wants to kill his enemys sasuke fights all out full power like when he batteled naruto to try to kill him naruto has never had the intention to kill sasuke id like to see naruto at his breaking point to go all out to destroy his enemy because they hurt sakura real bad

well eight tails has not even started to tap into his power so you know sasuke wont be takeing the eight tails out on his own maybe ooochimaru makes a go to take over sasuke again ooochimaru seems to be like a phonix always rises out of the ashes seems like hes dead then pops up again

-Erios-
08-08-2008, 03:50 PM
@ NARUTO77 for the last time a friendly reminder stop double posting or someone is gonna ban you!

how about if sasuke ends up hurting sakura real bad might help naruto true power evolve seems naruto is holding back because he never wants to kill his enemys sasuke fights all out full power like when he batteled naruto to try to kill him naruto has never had the intention to kill sasuke id like to see naruto at his breaking point to go all out to destroy his enemy because they hurt sakura real bad

....maybe in their next fight IF there is a next fight/

and no orochimaru will not come back this time to try and take over Sasuke again

NordicPrincess
08-08-2008, 04:09 PM
If Sasuke hurt Sakura real bad I would hate Kishimoto.

And NARUTO77, please donīt write everything in one complete sentence. Itīs really difficult to read it.

-Erios-
08-08-2008, 04:13 PM
Well I doubt that would happen I dont think Sasuke is that heart cold.....or is he???

......yeah he is, he hit temary so he might as well hit Sakura o_O

NordicPrincess
08-08-2008, 04:15 PM
Who is Temary? And when did he do that?

-Erios-
08-08-2008, 04:18 PM
Temari is Garaa's sister you know form the sand http://www.animemanga.pl/galeria/18897-1/naruto-temari-007.jpg

NordicPrincess
08-08-2008, 04:20 PM
I know who Temari is. I thought I had missed someone when you wrote Temary. :p

But when did he hit her?

the lost shinobi
08-08-2008, 04:24 PM
how about if sasuke ends up hurting sakura real bad might help naruto true power evolve seems naruto is holding back because he never wants to kill his enemys sasuke fights all out full power like when he batteled naruto to try to kill him naruto has never had the intention to kill sasuke id like to see naruto at his breaking point to go all out to destroy his enemy because they hurt sakura real bad

omg this post is full of grammar phailure.

Who is Temary? And when did he do that?

Temari is Gaara's older sister, the one with the fan.

anyway I though this chapter was really awesome. We learned that Jiraiya also had a huge chakra reservoir like Naruto, and that only people with huge chakra could learn senjutsu. I thought it was hilarious that Naruto jumped into the oil at the end and Fukasaku told him "are you crazy?" I can't wait to call Naruto the Bunshin Sage

Sasuke Uchiha 4 Life
08-08-2008, 04:36 PM
how about if sasuke ends up hurting sakura real bad might help naruto true power evolve seems naruto is holding back because he never wants to kill his enemys sasuke fights all out full power like when he batteled naruto to try to kill him naruto has never had the intention to kill sasuke id like to see naruto at his breaking point to go all out to destroy his enemy because they hurt sakura real bad

It's not always like that.He does sometiems fight with intentions of killing.And when he fought Sasuke they both had no intentions of killing each other(well Sasuke didn't At the LAST moment)


And this chapter rocked big time.I liked that Snawk worked together for once in their life time.And Sasuke actually got stabbed with one of the swords damn.This fight is getting awesome.And juugo Seems stronger then i gave him credit for i guess Suigetsu too.I mainly liked how Sasuke backd suigetsu up with he's own Chidori.But godamn i wanan see he's MS.

Also i have a feeling that this fight their gonan work together and their gonna hardly win he'll be all wounded and crap and he'll rerealize he needs itaachi's eyes for EMS to be able to stands a chance against konoha.But i mainly want him to have EMS cuz the structure looks cool.

-Erios-
08-08-2008, 04:40 PM
I know who Temari is. I thought I had missed someone when you wrote Temary. :p

But when did he hit her?

it was on the first part of the series when they were running away from the leaf remember

NordicPrincess
08-08-2008, 04:44 PM
I donīt remember him ever hitting a girl, but I will look it up.

And the sands were enemies back then so it wasnīt so bad.

Itachi_the_Feared_One
08-08-2008, 04:45 PM
omg this post is full of grammar phailure.



Who cares really,

:focus:
Nice chapter, except that Kishi is Trying to merge all aspects of other manga into narutoverse, which is quite lame in my opinion...now surprisingly, Sasuke is taking some serious shit from the 8 tail, would it mean that Kishi is adjusting the balance of power between Naruto and Sasuke, or is it the prelude for Sasuke new godly power.

NordicPrincess
08-08-2008, 04:51 PM
I think itīs because he is trying to show that Naruto and Sasuke is pretty much on the same level yes.
I was surprised to see Sasuke taking a hit but it was good too.

-Erios-
08-08-2008, 05:08 PM
I donīt remember him ever hitting a girl, but I will look it up.

And the sands were enemies back then so it wasnīt so bad.

I think it was only on the anime not in the manga dont remember though

NordicPrincess
08-08-2008, 05:19 PM
Itīs annoying how much I defend Sasuke, right? :p
I canīt help really.

-Erios-
08-08-2008, 05:24 PM
lol its ok really not many people do :p hmmmmI wonder where the eight tails is gonna weild his 8th sword ....O_o

S.Haze
08-08-2008, 05:34 PM
Well IMO if he does have a eighth blade he could use it by unleashing a tail or something. Anyways the "number 8" the jinchuriki said is probably gonna be a eighth sword that does something special like the kusanagi sword.

-Erios-
08-08-2008, 05:39 PM
probably it would be interesting to see how he would transform into the bijuu

Sasuke Uchiha 4 Life
08-08-2008, 06:20 PM
Itīs annoying how much I defend Sasuke, right? :p
I canīt help really.

Eh Your not Alone.I defend Sasuke but only up the point of logic,from my point of view that is.

NordicPrincess
08-08-2008, 06:23 PM
Of course. He isnīt perfect. Sasuke has his flaws as well. (Flaws? Nackdelar?)

Karin<3
08-08-2008, 06:32 PM
If Sasuke hurt Sakura real bad I would hate Kishimoto.

And NARUTO77, please donīt write everything in one complete sentence. Itīs really difficult to read it.

The only thing Sasuke would do to Sakura is eat her.

Arty
08-08-2008, 06:42 PM
More Anti-Sasuke Attitude in polls and i swear the god i will smite those whom fuel their bitter life by bashing.

i_feel_tiredsleepy
08-08-2008, 06:50 PM
More Anti-Sasuke Attitude in polls and i swear the god i will smite those whom fuel their bitter life by bashing.

I never would of pegged you for a Sasuke fanboy Arty :p.

Really I find his character to be very boring, not so much hate though.

letsrock0303
08-08-2008, 07:00 PM
I don't hate Sasuke to the same extent as some... but he really has turned into one of the most 1 dimensional characters I have ever encountered. Kishi has him going "Help Uchihas KILL KILL KILL" contantly and that is all we ever see of him. He needs to start tapping the chick with the glasses (masochist much) anywho, that would renew my respect for Sasuke a lot

i_feel_tiredsleepy
08-08-2008, 07:04 PM
I feel like Karin was just created as a plot device, whenever Kishi needs a otherwise useless technique for a plot twist he uses her.

NARUTO77
08-08-2008, 07:35 PM
@ NARUTO77 for the last time a friendly reminder stop double posting or someone is gonna ban you!



....maybe in their next fight IF there is a next fight/

and no orochimaru will not come back this time to try and take over Sasuke again


im new at this please explain double posting im not sure what you mean how do i avoid it

-Erios-
08-08-2008, 07:43 PM
:welcome:
and dont worry is nothing really bad but someone might think you are spamming :p

and well you can avoid it by editing the previous post you made just click the edit button and add what you missed...:thumb:

an example would be:
what Im about to do...

NARUTO77
08-08-2008, 07:55 PM
question what was the name of the kid jaraiya trained when he was younger the kid he found abandoned who thirst for killling that later he says he regrets saveing i think if i remember correctly

-Erios-
08-08-2008, 07:58 PM
Wat!! yeah that is indeed a weird twist.. really weird one which of course would never be possible

papfles
08-08-2008, 08:12 PM
question what was the name of the kid jaraiya trained when he was younger the kid he found abandoned who thirst for killling that later he says he regrets saveing i think if i remember correctly

You mean Yahiko?

NARUTO77
08-08-2008, 08:21 PM
You mean Yahiko?
PAIN MUST BE SOMEONE JARIYA TRUSTED iy be too easy say its nagato hes a clone whos to say its not a clone of narutos father

-Erios-
08-08-2008, 08:22 PM
he is one of pain's bodies

Arty
08-08-2008, 08:42 PM
I never would of pegged you for a Sasuke fanboy Arty :p.

Really I find his character to be very boring, not so much hate though.

By far the best character in the manga...

Rest is typical shounen fagshit.

-Erios-
08-08-2008, 08:52 PM
PAIN MUST BE SOMEONE JARIYA TRUSTED iy be too easy say its nagato hes a clone whos to say its not a clone of narutos father

WOW... Naruto's father was the fourth hokage and he sacrificed himself for the village long long ago there is just no way

papfles
08-08-2008, 08:59 PM
By far the best character in the manga...

Rest is typical shounen fagshit.

You're right. Kakuzu IS the best character in the manga. >_>

Arty
08-08-2008, 09:00 PM
Fak you Pap , i never said that!

papfles
08-08-2008, 09:02 PM
Fak you Pap , i never said that!

But you were thinking it Arty, you were thinking it!

Arty
08-08-2008, 09:04 PM
-_-

You got me... I confesssssss -

-

Btw , could it be that Karin is a bit of an SM? That moan was quite a display... it was only a bite <.<

papfles
08-08-2008, 09:05 PM
-_-

You got me... I confesssssss -

-

Btw , could it be that Karin is a bit of an SM? That moan was quite a display... it was only a bite <.<

It's what the spoilers also noted, that Karin was purposely moaning. Only thing missing was her biting her lip or blushing to make it completely clear >_>

Arty
08-08-2008, 09:12 PM
God...

I can't wait for the babies -_-

An SM fan plus Sasuke... Epic combination.

blind
08-08-2008, 09:44 PM
It's what the spoilers also noted, that Karin was purposely moaning. Only thing missing was her biting her lip or blushing to make it completely clear >_>

She did blush...

http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/412/006/

Seems like it took quite a lot out of her too, I wonder if that was acting as well...

Owenotto
08-08-2008, 10:37 PM
so, she can't heal someone without being blushed...
nice...

CaptainWolf8
08-08-2008, 10:55 PM
My prediction the 8 tails will seriously do some damage on sasuke... so karin get ready the special mark on the nipple or on the cheek...and Im no talkin about the face yo... now that should be HOT! wow now i realized i got turned on by saying that... bad dog...

-Erios-
08-08-2008, 10:58 PM
My prediction the 8 tails will seriously do some damage on sasuke... so karin get ready the special mark on the nipple or on the cheek...and Im no talkin about the face yo... now that should be HOT! wow now i realized i got turned on by saying that... bad dog...

more damage the 8 tails almost killed Sasuke in one attack

and it seems like every one is seeing karin as a sexy whore :p

blind
08-08-2008, 11:03 PM
more damage the 8 tails almost killed Sasuke in one attack

and it seems like every one is seeing karin as a sexy whore :p

Well he can afford to take more now, since Karin has healed him. I think it's going to be 1v1 from here on out.

The_Last_True_Uchiha
08-08-2008, 11:07 PM
the only thing missing is karin getting a nosebleed from being aroused..

:focus: I wonder if Mr. 8 Tails will do a partial transformation similar to what Gaara did when he fought Naruto.. could that be the #8?? If he has to go full 8 tails that would mean he had been push to the point that there's no other choice..

-Erios-
08-08-2008, 11:12 PM
Well he can afford to take more now, since Karin has healed him. I think it's going to be 1v1 from here on out.

but they were doing such a great job as a team :p now Sasuke has to ruin everything again

blind
08-08-2008, 11:19 PM
but they were doing such a great job as a team :p now Sasuke has to ruin everything again

Sasuke was launched by Juugo towards 8TJ, Karin and Suigetsu are exhausted/hurt, only thing left is that he's going to fight them on his own.

Akatsuki^_^Espada
08-08-2008, 11:22 PM
I think the 8 is the 8th sword! No wonder everytime i count there were just 7 swords, whereby I remember the shinobi from his village said that he carried 8 swords...

-Erios-
08-08-2008, 11:26 PM
no he didnt...he said 7
http://img45.onemanga.com/mangas/00000004/000064182/05.jpg

blind
08-08-2008, 11:27 PM
I think the 8 is the 8th sword! No wonder everytime i count there were just 7 swords, whereby I remember the shinobi from his village said that he carried 8 swords...

Where was this from? He only said he had a 7 blade sword...

http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/408/05/

Wannabe
08-08-2008, 11:34 PM
Here (http://read.mangashare.com/Naruto/chapter-408/page005.html) it says eight swords. I remember the spoiler also saying that he carried eight swords. Therefore, I also have an inkling that there might be an eighth sword. Whaaat could it be, this "eighth"?

-Erios-
08-08-2008, 11:36 PM
WTF!!!! ok we have a problem here which one is the correct one?? OneManga or Mangashare???

blind
08-08-2008, 11:43 PM
Looks like eight...just checked the Japanese.

http://ac.uu1001.com/uu_0807_2/manyou_33_11839_0ce61bc48f1b44f.jpg

blind
08-09-2008, 12:45 AM
To Espada: Yes i think its his eight fighting technique... sword = espada in spanish... coincidence?

The character for Espada (in Bleach) and sword are different I think, although I'll have to check on that...

Number 8 could actually be another sword...

And let's stay on topic. :focus:

the lost shinobi
08-09-2008, 01:14 AM
yeah yeah ok fine still it was kind of weird thing to say

As for Naruto's training. I was thinking that maybe Naruto will ask Fukasaku for a tip. Maybe he'll ask Fukasaku about what J-man did to learn how to use Senjutsu. Naruto always asks for tips and then uses that tip to learn how to master something.

congrats on the 9,000 post count and for having the most obcene post rate ever conceived by man. You never posted before ever. then one day Samnas told you to post more and viola! Blind is born.

-Erios-
08-09-2008, 01:19 AM
yeah yeah ok fine still it was kind of weird thing to say

As for Naruto's training. I was thinking that maybe Naruto will ask Fukasaku for a tip. Maybe he'll ask Fukasaku about what J-man did to learn how to use Senjutsu. Naruto always asks for tips and then uses that tip to learn how to master something.

congrats on the 9,000 post count and for having the most obcene post rate ever conceived by man. You never posted before ever. then one day Samnas told you to post more and viola! Blind is born.

Yeah that's usually what Naruto does but this time the dumb ass threw himself into the "frog oil" when they told him that with just a little will be enough ...Fukasaku will be mad and Naruto in pain for all the hits he is gonna receive

blind
08-09-2008, 01:19 AM
As for Naruto's training. I was thinking that maybe Naruto will ask Fukasaku for a tip. Maybe he'll ask Fukasaku about what J-man did to learn how to use Senjutsu. Naruto always asks for tips and then uses that tip to learn how to master something.

I was wondering about that, but then again, it's something he has to figure out for himself, I'm guessing it's not something even tips could help with. Wind chakra is one thing, but making new chakra just seems...more difficult than that.

I like the fact that he threw himself in the oil though, challenging himself to get it done with death.


congrats on the 9,000 post count and for having the most obcene post rate ever conceived by man. You never posted before ever. then one day Samnas told you to post more and viola! Blind is born.

lol, all thanks to samnas...

the lost shinobi
08-09-2008, 01:26 AM
I like the fact that he threw himself in the oil though, challenging himself to get it done with death.




yeah I mentioned that in my first post in this thread but nobody ever remembers my posts :(

anyway yeah that was the highlight of the chapter for me. But if Naruto pulls out a resolve no jutsu outta his ass to master Senjutsu after jumping in toad oil im gonna be super pissed.

I hope he has a real close call where he becomes really close to turning into a frog and then notices a difference between the frog form and the human form. Maybe that will help him master Senjutsu

Spetznas
08-09-2008, 01:31 AM
anyway yeah that was the highlight of the chapter for me. But if Naruto pulls out a resolve no jutsu outta his ass to master Senjutsu after jumping in toad oil im gonna be super pissed.



why not would be about time that it happened to Naruto
Sasuke seems to take power ups out his ass

the lost shinobi
08-09-2008, 01:39 AM
why not would be about time that it happened to Naruto
Sasuke seems to take power ups out his ass

I rather like Naruto never getting a random bullshit powerup like Sasuke. I prefer his hard work mantra

-Erios-
08-09-2008, 02:23 AM
Hmmm ....but Naruto needs the power up no matter what

I also like the idea of him working up his way to achieve his goals but I still think that Naruto has it hard with this training

thornofcarrion
08-09-2008, 02:37 AM
I dont suppose he is going to let the beast out yet. He is not that seriously beaten or injured to lend the powers of his beast.

thornofcarrion
08-09-2008, 02:41 AM
Hmmm ....but Naruto needs the power up no matter what

I also like the idea of him working up his way to achieve his goals but I still think that Naruto has it hard with this training

i agree but also I think Naruto should have inheritted something from his father the 4th Hokage, who did not have any beast within him yet he was one of The strongest Ninja of his time and even up t now.

Hard work is everything. A great example would be, though out of topic here but please excuse, of Federer and Nadal. Federer is so god gifted and talented and Nadal is so hard working. And now Nadal has surpassed Federer. Same goes for Sasuke and Naruto.

the lost shinobi
08-09-2008, 02:47 AM
i agree but also I think Naruto should have inheritted something from his father the 4th Hokage, who did not have any beast within him yet he was one of The strongest Ninja of his time and even up t now.

Hard work is everything. A great example would be, though out of topic here but please excuse, of Federer and Nadal. Federer is so god gifted and talented and Nadal is so hard working. And now Nadal has surpassed Federer. Same goes for Sasuke and Naruto.

I disagree. What would he have inherited from Minato. you said yourself Minato was normal. He had no bloodline, special ability or a bijuu. he was just talented and hard working. What would he have inherited. besides if Naruto has inherited something it totally goes against everything Kishi has built up in his manga.

and stop double posting

lurntoospel
08-09-2008, 03:22 AM
i agree but also I think Naruto should have inheritted something from his father the 4th Hokage, who did not have any beast within him yet he was one of The strongest Ninja of his time and even up t now.

Hard work is everything. A great example would be, though out of topic here but please excuse, of Federer and Nadal. Federer is so god gifted and talented and Nadal is so hard working. And now Nadal has surpassed Federer. Same goes for Sasuke and Naruto.

other than a few pretimeskip fights the nine-tails has been nothing but a hindrance to Naruto. -as for the jumping in the lake thing awesome, my guess is naruto blows out some monstrous amount of chakra and turns a little into a frog, and fukusaku sits there stunned saying something about how he really is the chosen one. -i love bashing sasuke but finally, some teamwork, he may have hope as a dynamic character now.... and keep up the defending nordic...usually just fanboy arguments for his defense

the lost shinobi
08-09-2008, 03:27 AM
word good point the teamwork between Hebi was awesome. for a team that's been together for such a short time, they knew each others strengths and weaknesses and fought very well together. The fighting in this chapter real good.

Also Juugo's partial transformations are huge! imagine what a full transformation looks like. He's also the only person other than Sasuke to use partial transformations

Murdock
08-09-2008, 04:19 AM
The thing i don't get why SAsuke uses MS on some weakling and against 8TJ is not ... kinda stupid :D Kishi wanted to show MS too early ... it just doesn't make sence IMO :D Kishi wass too eager to show his new toy


Also Juugo's partial transformations are huge! imagine what a full transformation looks like. He's also the only person other than Sasuke to use partial transformations

i believe that Kimimaro could use those too

FerN
08-09-2008, 04:29 AM
Sasuke got owned to early, something like "I did that on purpose to see your power" or something is going to be said really soon I think

the lost shinobi
08-09-2008, 04:46 AM
The thing i don't get why SAsuke uses MS on some weakling and against 8TJ is not ... kinda stupid :D Kishi wanted to show MS too early ... it just doesn't make sence IMO :D Kishi wass too eager to show his new toy



i believe that Kimimaro could use those too

He didn't use his MS because he never had a chance to. Between getting pwnd so furiously by the 8TJ and healing himself by bitng Karin and relying on Hebi to back him up, when was he supposed to use his MS. The battle never gave him an opportunity to use his MS

And Kimimaro never used partial transformation

Sasuke got owned to early, something like "I did that on purpose to see your power" or something is going to be said really soon I think

I doubt it. Sasuke got genuinly fucked up and had to bite Karin to restore his health. He also had to rely on Hebi to get a couple of good hits in on the 8TJ. There was no way all that was guaging strength. This dude is the real deal. He is giving Hebi all they can handle and then some.

KeNo
08-09-2008, 05:11 AM
sasuke needs to get his act together*sike* die mother $%^76# die i hate him 8 tails finish that chump off so naruto can open can of whoop ass on akatsuki................totally unrelated...............where's zetsu?:-

Murdock
08-09-2008, 05:11 AM
He didn't use his MS because he never had a chance to. Between getting pwnd so furiously by the 8TJ and healing himself by bitng Karin and relying on Hebi to back him up, when was he supposed to use his MS. The battle never gave him an opportunity to use his MS

And Kimimaro never used partial transformation



You don't get it ... why he didn'T use MS right away as he did it against that weak ninja ... IMO it doesn't make sence he used MS against weak and against strong he doesn't use it? C'mon i hope use see what i mean

and again i didn't say Kimi used that i said he could use use it ... since when Juugo say Sasuke using partial transformation he said hmm this copy is skilled ... same as the other copy Kimimaro ... get it?

KeNo
08-09-2008, 05:17 AM
all i kno is sasuke sucks ..................*spacing out*and the storyline is tight but wheres neji huh......include more char. im tired of seeing sasuke ol tired az n naruto 5 jutsu list and no other char.past ino

blind
08-09-2008, 05:55 AM
yeah I mentioned that in my first post in this thread but nobody ever remembers my posts :(

anyway yeah that was the highlight of the chapter for me. But if Naruto pulls out a resolve no jutsu outta his ass to master Senjutsu after jumping in toad oil im gonna be super pissed.

I hope he has a real close call where he becomes really close to turning into a frog and then notices a difference between the frog form and the human form. Maybe that will help him master Senjutsu

Seems like a good method to me, he's done that with summoning Gamabunta, and was in a similar situation when he learned Rasengan, I wouldn't be surprised if it happened, as it's shown to work with Naruto.

lurntoospel
08-09-2008, 06:09 AM
maybe a good memory of him with jaraiya we havent seen, we see his face get serious and then he masters it. i miss my pervy sage :( just the mention of jaraiyas massive chakra pool had me pumped

SpikeUchiha
08-09-2008, 12:09 PM
naruto did the minato smile and old frog didnt say any thing about it so it kinda rules out the 4th ever trained there just j man so naruto wont be learning his dads jutsu yet..i wonder how saukra knew about time space jutsu... she knew when tobi did it...

FerN
08-09-2008, 01:07 PM
I think if the 4th trained in the sage arts he would have mastered it, and then the old frog would have mentioned it.

Herumor
08-09-2008, 01:14 PM
sasuke needs to get his act together*sike* die mother $%^76# die i hate him 8 tails finish that chump off so naruto can open can of whoop ass on akatsuki................totally unrelated...............where's zetsu?:-

I wouldn't be suprised if Zetsu is watching from the shadows like always, unless he went to watch Pain attack Konoha. Which btw is apperently getting put off till later xO


naruto did the minato smile and old frog didnt say any thing about it so it kinda rules out the 4th ever trained there just j man so naruto wont be learning his dads jutsu yet..i wonder how saukra knew about time space jutsu... she knew when tobi did it...

That doesn't rule out Minato participating in Senjutsu training, but I don't know if he'd need it to make him stronger. Jiraiya already said he was a talent that only came around every few decades. Naruto already learned the Rasengan which is his dad's jutsu >.> But I don't percieve him learning the Body-Flicker (Is that and the Flying Thunder-God the same technique?), as Naruto seems to have his own loud fighting style.

As for Sakura, I wouldn't be suprised if she learned about it from Kakashi. She may not have been at the fight with Deidara, but her finding out about Kakashi's MS isn't out of the question. Not to mention she was always a bright Kunoichi from the start.

Namikaze_Minato
08-09-2008, 01:16 PM
He didn't use his MS because he never had a chance to. Between getting pwnd so furiously by the 8TJ and healing himself by bitng Karin and relying on Hebi to back him up, when was he supposed to use his MS. The battle never gave him an opportunity to use his MS


I disagree. We've seen MS pulled off pretty fast before. Remember when Itachi did it in the Frog's stomach. Also, it surprises me that sauske wasn't able to do anything quickly to save himself. I mean he was able to Summon a snake, put it into genjitsu, get inside of it, and unsummon it in a slpit second w/ deidara, so why can't he do something like that now.

I'm also surprised that he hasn't used genjitsu at all on this guy. I mean, thats his (and the sharingan's) signature move (looking like ur dead and then going "SIKE" and appearing behind the guy.)

Also, we don't know for sure if what Sauske has is MS.

blind
08-09-2008, 01:56 PM
Also, we don't know for sure if what Sauske has is MS.

What else is the sun shaped dotjutsu then? A new eye technique that's unlocked exclusively to Sasuke? Oh wait, that is MS...

I'm quite certain that what we've seen is already MS, now for the jutsus....

FerN
08-09-2008, 02:07 PM
On this point do you need to take the eyes of another MS user to gain EMS or does MS transferral count?

blind
08-09-2008, 02:10 PM
I doubt MS transferral counts. We've seen EMS as two eye patterns overlapping one another, which required another set of MS eyes from one's brother. However, Sasuke's MS only has one pattern, hence, I doubt he has EMS yet. Also, if he did, Madara wouldn't have offered Itachi's MS to Sasuke.

FerN
08-09-2008, 02:13 PM
But would it work if he activates his own MS, then he will have two sets of MS or do the eyes physically have to be replaced?

blind
08-09-2008, 02:15 PM
But would it work if he activates his own MS, then he will have two sets of MS or do the eyes physically have to be replaced?

Pretty sure it has to be physically replaced. We've already seen two instances of that. First was when Madara took his brother's eyes, second is Itachi taking Sasuke's. Now, the latter could be argued that he was just trying to keep his stories consistent, but I don't see why he would just do it for no reason, even though it was just a genjutsu.

FerN
08-09-2008, 02:18 PM
And why would he just want Sasuke's normal sharingan eyes? And if it has to be physically replaced, Sasuke is doomed to become blind, because who else's MS can he take, Kakashi's? (I dont want Kakashi to die)

The_Last_True_Uchiha
08-09-2008, 02:19 PM
Also, we don't know for sure if what Sauske has is MS.

Sasuke has MS.. Remember Madra offered Itachi's eyes to Sasuke.. He wanted Sasuke to obtain EMS.. That was the whole point of Itachi and Sasuke fighting.. Itachi wanted to help Sasuke attain MS through his death, seeing how he was so relucant to kill Naruto in order to obtain MS..

blind
08-09-2008, 02:21 PM
And why would he just want Sasuke's normal sharingan eyes? And if it has to be physically replaced, Sasuke is doomed to become blind, because who else's MS can he take, Kakashi's? (I dont want Kakashi to die)

Alright, maybe Itachi taking Sasuke's eyes isn't such a good example, but we have seen Madara take his brother's eyes. Also, the statue behind Itachi when he was talking to Sasuke, those were missing two Sharingans, and he only has MS, while Madara's statue has all four Sharingan, after he has gotten EMS, so I'd think he still needs the eyes physically.

As for Sasuke going blind...Itachi's eyes?

FerN
08-09-2008, 02:24 PM
Yes, it is itachi's but does transferring your MS to someone make the latter free from blinding. Doesnt Sasuke also suffer the effects from the MS techniques?

blind
08-09-2008, 02:26 PM
Yes, it is itachi's but does transferring your MS to someone make the latter free from blinding. Doesnt Sasuke also suffer the effects from the MS techniques?

lol...this is what we've been discussing all along...

EMS is MS that doesn't go blind, so if the eye transfer doesn't give you EMS, then yes, the user, Sasuke in this case, would still go blind.

The_Last_True_Uchiha
08-09-2008, 02:30 PM
Eternal Mangekyou Sharigan allows to user to use MS techniques as many times as they like w/o the going blind effect.. Sasuke will still suffer going blind since he didn't take Itachi's eyes...

FerN
08-09-2008, 02:33 PM
Then I think Sasuke is pretty much going to become blind, then try to kill Kakashi. And I dont think Sasuke wanted to bring his MS out that early in the fight for this reason. I dont think he wants a long fight with MS activated and the 8tj is pretty strong, so he only wants to use it for his finishing blow

blind
08-09-2008, 02:39 PM
Then I think Sasuke is pretty much going to become blind, then try to kill Kakashi. And I dont think Sasuke wanted to bring his MS out that early in the fight for this reason. I dont think he wants a long fight with MS activated and the 8tj is pretty strong, so he only wants to use it for his finishing blow

Why...? There's still Itachi's eyes, why would he need to go after Kakashi?

S.Haze
08-09-2008, 02:45 PM
I have no idea why Fern said "kill kakashi" because there are still Itachis eyes to get and whats more, kakashi has only 1 sharingan so taking it would be even more pointless also since Kishi will work more on Kakashi meaning he isn't gonna kill him off.

FerN
08-09-2008, 02:45 PM
Hmm, they never showed us what they made with itachi's body right, so they could have safed the the eyes. But he will still need to activate his own MS bef