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regina777
02-22-2008, 05:56 PM
Chapter 489 just got released. Visit here Franky House (http://www.franky-house.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3041) for it. Read it and share your predictions here for the next chapter.

DonEmu
02-22-2008, 06:33 PM
Wow, ended with Luffy realizing Ace was in trouble. The biblicard should still move towards ace. So are we headed for an Ace rescue mission next?

weltell
02-22-2008, 07:43 PM
Perhaps Lolas mother is the final Yonkou. It would be interesting if that was the the case.

We'll see either what the Strawhats plan to do or perhaps we'll see Ace in Impel Down.

Valleyman
02-22-2008, 09:02 PM
I hope they find out they have awhile before Ace dies and decide to goto Merman island anyways. I've been waiting to see it because it's supposedly under water isn't it?

Chaos_Angel
02-22-2008, 10:56 PM
Correct me if I am wrong, but Impel down is an undersea prison right?
Maybe during the course of the Mermaid Island arc they are taken to Impel down and meet Ace when their is only a small portion of his life remaing.

yondaime_hokage
02-23-2008, 12:31 AM
I honestly don't think they can go into Impel Down by themselves and save Ace. I wonder if it will be a coalition between Shanks, Whitebeard and the Straw Hats.

Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't Impel Down in the Marine HQ or near it?

Then again, it's just a thought.

oipotty
02-23-2008, 02:33 PM
I think there may be a coalition between red-haired and straw-hats against whitebeard. But, in the end, it'll be pirates vs. government.

I sincerely hope Ace doesn't die.

yondaime_hokage
02-23-2008, 10:33 PM
I think there may be a coalition between red-haired and straw-hats against whitebeard.

That's very probable with Whitebeard and Shanks fighting, even though we don't know the outcome of that fight. It's very likely that they will be enemies from now on.

I wonder what Luffy would do if Whitebeard actually defeated/killed Shanks, that would be a big turning point in the manga. At least that's what I think.

:focus: Thinking back on this there might be a mini coalition between the Strawhats and Whitebeard. The only reason Shanks asked Whitebeard to stop Ace is because Shanks wanted to kill Blackbeard himself, or at least that's what I got from the altercation. But 95% of this leads to Rescue Ace arc, unless mermaid island is on the way and the log post only takes 1-3 days to set.

oipotty
02-23-2008, 10:47 PM
I think next to die is the merman shikukbudai (idk spelling). I hope the manga doesn't keep on replacing them, as there is no point in that.

yondaime_hokage
02-24-2008, 12:25 AM
Where was it stated that there is a Shichibukai in merman island? I don't recall anything like that being mentioned, maybe I should reread some of the latest arcs.

I do agree that Shichibukai can't be taken down and replaced one by one, that will get too boring. But it would be interesting if one of the Yonkou would be killed and one of them replaced.

samnas
02-24-2008, 06:17 AM
Correct me if I am wrong, but Impel down is an undersea prison right?Yes as far as we know from Nami's explanation, Impel down is an underwater prison just behind the Gates of justice ...
I honestly don't think they can go into Impel Down by themselves and save Ace. I wonder if it will be a coalition between Shanks, Whitebeard and the Straw Hats.I also think that they can't do that on their own, they need some sort of help, and i honestly don't think it would be Shanks, could be whitebeard pirates ... Come on Ace is their crewman ...
I wonder what Luffy would do if Whitebeard actually defeated/killed Shanks, that would be a big turning point in the manga. At least that's what I think.Shanks is one of the person that won't die until he met Luffy ... And i am sure they will fight for *some* reason ...
Where was it stated that there is a Shichibukai in merman island? I don't recall anything like that being mentioned, maybe I should reread some of the latest arcs.I don't remember exactly where, but it was mentioned somewhere in the beginning of Arlong Arc ... Jimbei was a fishmen pirate but he left when he became a SB ... so maybe he is there or maybe not ...




BTW, its strange isn't it, Fishmen island is an underwater city and Impel down is an underwater prison ... could they be related? ...

Again Oda proved that he is the best mangaka ...

oipotty
02-24-2008, 02:05 PM
Jimbei a SB? That's wierd cause Jimbei and Arlong were at the same level. Jimbei musta done some serious work... cause Arlong is no where near SB level.

yondaime_hokage
02-24-2008, 11:46 PM
Shanks is one of the person that won't die until he met Luffy ... And i am sure they will fight for *some* reason ...


I know it's not likely, but it would be an interesting twist to things. But I don't think the Shichibukai should be the only ones to be killed, which is why I thought it's maybe time for one of the Yankou to be killed/defeated and get replaced (or not).

But we haven't seen the other two Yankou so it's not likely that they would be killed off without them being introduced, although one was mentioned, the other one we haven't seen.

So I agree with you that Shanks will not be killed, but I think one of the other two Yankou will die in the near future. I guess I'd like to see the scales leveling out.

And are you saying that Shanks and Luffy would fight? that would be pretty sweet.

samnas
02-25-2008, 07:12 AM
Jimbei a SB? That's wierd cause Jimbei and Arlong were at the same level. Jimbei musta done some serious work... cause Arlong is no where near SB level.
http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/69/07/

http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/69/08/
I know it's not likely, but it would be an interesting twist to things. But I don't think the Shichibukai should be the only ones to be killed, which is why I thought it's maybe time for one of the Yankou to be killed/defeated and get replaced (or not).

But we haven't seen the other two Yankou so it's not likely that they would be killed off without them being introduced, although one was mentioned, the other one we haven't seen.

So I agree with you that Shanks will not be killed, but I think one of the other two Yankou will die in the near future. I guess I'd like to see the scales leveling out.

And are you saying that Shanks and Luffy would fight? that would be pretty sweet.
I know that right now its time for the Yonkou's, but i can't see many yonkou's dying either ... Iff Shanks have already killed Whitebeard, here goes one and probably one more, Kaidou ... And if Lola's mother is also a SB then i can't see her dying either ...

I don't know why but i can or want to see Shanks vs. Luffy, because luffy became a pirate after watching Shanks, and now we know that shanks is not a normal pirate, i want him to fight Luffy for some reason ...

yondaime_hokage
02-25-2008, 07:43 AM
We still don't know the outcome of the Whitebeard/Shanks duel. I think one or the other should be killed. I don't think a draw in that situation would progress the story line.

It would be boring for them to start a duel only to show a flashback later on of how powerful both of them are without one of them dying. Sorry, I wanna see someone dead after that duel.

As samnas said though, if either one of them dies it will probably be Whitebeard since Luffy needs to meet Shanks.

Don't know if someone said/thought about this already... But for some reason I see a flashback to the Ace/Blackbeard fight in the coming chapter or so.



I don't know why but i can or want to see Shanks vs. Luffy, because luffy became a pirate after watching Shanks, and now we know that shanks is not a normal pirate, i want him to fight Luffy for some reason ...


Just a thought, but maybe Shanks will fight Luffy in order to test his credential to replace Whitebeard in the Yankou... It's probably not gonna happen, my dreams never come true :(

weltell
02-25-2008, 12:51 PM
I think it will be a while before any of the Yonkous are defeated but I think the first one to fall will be Whitebeard.

knivez 83
02-25-2008, 03:39 PM
Something big's about to happen. They've been hinting at this far too long now. Finally were going to see what Ace's capture really means.

samnas
02-25-2008, 04:26 PM
It could be that they captured Ace to lure out Luffy and his crew and when they get the chance they will strike them down ...

oipotty
02-25-2008, 05:00 PM
Jinbei must be fairly weak cause Luffy defeated Arlong before he had any gears or anything. Defeating Jinbei wouldn't be such a big deal.

yondaime_hokage
02-25-2008, 08:09 PM
Jinbei must be fairly weak cause Luffy defeated Arlong before he had any gears or anything. Defeating Jinbei wouldn't be such a big deal.

Good point. Most of the Sichibukai we've seen so far have deviil fruit powers, so I wonder if Jimbei also has a devil fruit power and him being a merman isn't phased by the negative effects of the fruit.

But I think Jimbei needs to be stronger than Arlong. If they were the same level that would be too easy as you said... I would be very disappointed and bored as far as the Shichibukai are concerned.

weltell
02-25-2008, 08:25 PM
It could be that they captured Ace to lure out Luffy and his crew and when they get the chance they will strike them down ...


I think they were thinking a little higher on the food chain as in Whitebeard. He thinks of all of his crew as family and this could be a ploy to get him in a situation to get rid of one of the strongest pirates in the world.

samnas
02-26-2008, 03:31 AM
Getting rid of whitebeard, i don't think the world govt would do that, yonkou is one of the balancing force, it would disrupt the balance if one of them is killed or captured ...



A spoiler ...
http://aycu20.webshots.com/image/43819/2005918126574833274_rs.jpg
Originally Posted by SaiyaJedi at AP:


490
再び辿りつく
Getting There Again

あの人は今シリーズ
"Where are they Now" series

オイモとカーシーエルバブへ
Oimo and Karsee set out for Elbaf

麦藁一味スリ出発
The Straw Hat Crew leaves Thriller Bark

ローラがスリ周辺の深い霧の中に何かが動くのに気づくが気にせず。
Lola notices something moving in the thick mists surrounding Thriller Bark, but pays it no mind.

その時、霧の中の何か目の様な物が光る
Just then, something like an eye gleams from out of the mist.

皆がエースの事を心配し、寄り道してもいいと言うが、ルフ拒否、その後船上でブルック歓迎の宴
Everyone is worried about Ace, and says they could make a detour for him, but Luffy vetoes it. Afterward, they have a welcome party for Brook on the ship.

場所は変わってマリージョア
Scene shifts to Marie Joie

センゴク、くま、ガープが会話、麦藁一味がログを辿り海軍本部に近づいてる。
Sengoku, Kuma, and Garp are conversing: The Log Pose the Straw Hats are using will bring them close to Naval Headquarters.

場所は変わってグランドライン
Scene shifts back to the Grand Line

麦藁一味レッドライン到着
The Straw Hats arrive at the Red Line

ロビン、ブルック、ルフで深海探索、何も見つからずに暗黒丸に戻る
Robin, Brook, and Luffy search the depths, but don't find anything and return to the Sunny [side note: Brankie calls it the "Ankoku-maru" here.]

深海から追ってきた海王類にルフ攻撃すると、口からケイミー登場。終わり
Luffy attacks a Sea King that followed them from the depths, and from its mouth Camie appears. END

本物かはわかりません
I don't know if this is the real deal or not.


Looks fake to me, a lot of things happening in just one chapter ...

weltell
02-26-2008, 04:01 AM
I think the balance the WG prizes so much is to keep the Yonkou in check. If they were to eliminate the Yonkou them they could probably control the New World.

samnas
02-26-2008, 06:41 AM
Just 4 yonkou's are ruling over the New World and are against the WG + SB ... This tells us that how much powerful the yonkou's actually are ...

Its true that the WG may get control over the New World after eliminating the yonkou's, but they have to pay for it ... They may lose their some or most of their SB's, alot of WG marines, etc ...

weltell
02-26-2008, 01:35 PM
True and if the WG lost a large portion of their military power in such a battle the revolutionaries would probably topple them.

Though if Luffy keeps taking out the Shichibukai then the WG will be in a good deal of trouble.

samnas
02-27-2008, 04:13 AM
Spoiler pics:

http://aycu35.webshots.com/image/44634/2001296863426503717_rs.jpg

http://aycu07.webshots.com/image/47366/2001298070219312742_rs.jpg

http://aycu20.webshots.com/image/45899/2001266470230616435_rs.jpg

http://aycu12.webshots.com/image/46371/2001205100962297756_rs.jpg

http://aycu14.webshots.com/image/46933/2001242909334111037_rs.jpg

http://aycu36.webshots.com/image/45435/2001254150537632346_rs.jpg

OMG! A MERMAID!!!!!! ....

yondaime_hokage
02-27-2008, 12:39 PM
Those pics due support the script mentioned before. So I'll assume it's real even though it hasn't been confirmed yet.

Things are going to get interesting. I wonder if that mermaid (Cammie was it? sp?) will be their nakama! If she's like Kokoro (and I think all mermaids are) then she can walk on land too. Luffy, Robin and Chopper wouldn't have to worry about drowning with her around.

Anyone think it's possible? Or at least a temp nakama (like Vivi) until the end of the arc.

oipotty
02-27-2008, 05:01 PM
Sweet! It looks like we'll see more of the fleet admiral.

knivez 83
02-27-2008, 05:15 PM
Its possible that she could be part of the crew...if i remember correctly Luffy wanted to have a a total of 10 people on his ship so one more would do it. Then again she could just be another character like vivi who needs their help. And honestly now with Brooke on board with Sanji it'd get pretty perverted.

samnas
02-27-2008, 05:27 PM
Anyone think it's possible? Or at least a temp nakama (like Vivi) until the end of the arc.Quite possible ... whenever the starwhats met anyone accidentally they always make them their nakama or temp nakama until the end of the arc ...
if i remember correctly Luffy wanted to have a a total of 10 people on his ship so one more would do it.I seriously have no idea when did Luffy mentioned this ...

knivez 83
02-27-2008, 07:10 PM
Well i caught it during the anime so its possible this was never stated in the manga but while out trying to recruit Zoro he said he thought 10 people would be good enough for a crew. I never really thought about it till now but their approaching that number.

oipotty
02-29-2008, 11:00 PM
cool chap... they're going to merman island... do they know where impel down is? Do they know that impel down is underneath merman?

knivez 83
03-03-2008, 02:51 PM
Jinbei must be fairly weak cause Luffy defeated Arlong before he had any gears or anything. Defeating Jinbei wouldn't be such a big deal.

Wait how can u say Jinbei is weak? You're comparing a shibukai to his subordinate. I think Jinbei is gonna be a lot stronger than Arlong was.

Anyway, it was a pretty cool chapter. Interesting how luffy isn't too worried about Ace considering the bad omen. I think he'll regret that decision in the future but we'll see.

oipotty
03-03-2008, 03:08 PM
i think it said that arlong and jimbei were at the same level... both captains. correct me if I'm wrong.