The freaking awesome clan of catgirls/AP

[remzrevolution]

The clan as a whole is built around, and devoted to one thing. the god Sekhmet. The religious leaders of the clan strive to bring about her will in whatever way necessary, and ultimately, to bring her to her people in a physical form.

Sekhmet (AKA Sekhmet, Sakhmet, or Sekhmet the Destroyer) is the Goddess of sunset, destruction, death, rebirth and wisdom. She is also sometimes defined as a warrior or huntress goddess. The cycle of life and death was created when the primeval Goddess Sekhmet-Bast divided into two sisters, Sekhmet and Bast. Another legend regarding her origins is that she was created by Ra from the fire of his eyes as a creature of vengeance to punish mankind for his sins. Later, she became a peaceful protectress of the righteous, closely linked with the benevolent Bast.

Members that are born into the clan share distinct physical attributes that separate them from other humans, namely two features of a cat ; the ears and a tail.

These clan members are gifted with senses heightened above those of a normal human. The increased senses of sight, hearing, and touch, in particular aid them in combat.

Most of the clan's people believe in living a peaceful life outside of their religious activities, however they are fiercely devoted to their god, and place their trust in their religious elders to guide them down the path that would please their god.

In short, they're all for peace and love and all that other good stuff Roy went over that I can't remember.

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Those of the clan who the roleplayers will take the part of will be one of three types of important people in the clan; prophets of Sekhmet, 'angels' of vengeance, or the guardians of one of the other types or the religious elders of the clan.

Which type the roleplayer chooses may affect their story later on, as this clan will have it's own events and story arcs and twists to some extent, but all three of the types will have the same abilities.

The only real special 'jutsu' or abilities these clan members gain are the three 'blessings' supposedly given to them by Sekhmet herself.

The blessings can be learned in only one order, and they can only be learned with a certain amount of XP.The blessing require no hand seals to activate or to maintain, but the activation of a seal inscribed on the users body is necessary, as well as constant chakra flow to that seal. Each of the blessing have a rather large chakra consumption rate, and abusing them will land you in trouble rather quickly, as they will continue to eat the users chakra even after they have lost consciousness if they go overboard. There is a limit of uses on these blessing. Only one blessing can be used once per day. Even if the users chakra is completely restored, they still have to wait until the next day to use a blessing again. Uses do not 'stack', however if the user fights at night, and the fight lasts until morning, he could potentially use two blessings if he timed them correctly.

The three blessings:


The first blessing:
Once the seal has been activated, all chakra pumped into it will be drawn out of the body, and formed into a tight fitting chakra shield around the body. The shield appears as a soft glow around the user that varies in color from person to person (choose your own). The shield can protect the user from a maximum of nine hits. A hari grazes their shoulder, that's a hit. Impaled by a spear while an exploding tag goes off on it simultaneously, that's a hit. The shield is composed of two layers of condensed chakra, the one further from the body being less condensed than the other. The outer layer serves to slow down incoming attacks, and the inner layer serves to help deaden and absorb the blow. The shield is capable of absorbing thirty percent(30%) of damage from each attack. No pain is felt while the shield is up, but any other effects, such as poisoning, being blown or pushed away, still occur. The user can end the blessing at any time, in order to save chakra, or simply because the fight is over, just by ceasing the pump chakra into the necessary seal.

If the shield is hit nine times, then it is 'broken'. If and when it is broken, an extra bit of the users chakra will be sucked away as a sort of 'fee' for allowing themselves to be hit nine times after activating the ability.

The first blessing can be learned immediately, but clan members do not START with it. It must be learned and trained, and if any other members join, I will be watching their training.


The second blessing:
Once the necessary seal is activated, any chakra pumped into it is converted into a healing chakra, and will flow down the users arms and begin healing wounds on the first living being that they place their hands on. The user can heal themselves, friends, enemies, or animals this way, the only restriction is that the thing being healed must still be alive. This blessing heals most 'damage', such as puncture wounds, lacerations, abrasions, damaged organs, broken bones, etc., but it does not cure or remove poisons or undo other 'effects' like genjutsu.

This blessing can fully heal someone near death, but at a cost of chakra. The user could potentially drain all of their chakra and kill themselves if they had already lost some chakra before starting the blessing, and try to heal injuries beyond their limits.

The second blessing can be learned and trained when the user has gained 34 XP and is chuunin or higher


The third blessing:
The final blessing is the least 'blessing'-like of the three. When the seal for the third blessing is activated, a scythe, representative of Sekhmet's vengeance is summoned to the users hand. This scythe feeds on chakra, and it will suck the chakra from any living being it slices into, however, any time it is not feasting on an opponent's chakra, it is slowly draining the users chakra in order to feed it's 'hunger' and remain in the physical realm.

While holding the scythe, users will experience increased speed, strength, and stamina, however this is difficult to control, and each burst of 'supernatural' speed, etc. requires a fee of the users chakra.

The third blessing can be learned and trained when the the user gains 52 XP and is chuunin or higher.


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You will notice that while these abilities are called 'blessings', there is a definite science behind them. My personal character will not use these blessings in exactly the same way, but all of the restrictions and requirements and all that good stuff still apply. The only difference is in story.

You can see the island the clansmen live on in the image with all the travel routes to the Jashin wasteland in one of the travel threads. It is aptly labeled 'Neko'. I will get up my own list of travel times soon.

There will be a significant story setting which ties the clan people into one of the ninja villages so they can legally participate in the ninja-rific stuffs going on...

Anyone looking to join, or with more questions can ask in this thread OR preferably, PM me and get a bigger picture.

Credit to Roy for working on this in some form with me for...a long time, and supplying a lot of info and ideas, and credit to Don for being the first council member who seemed like he WANTED to see this turn out to be amazing.

Well, there it be. Awaiting comments questions, and approvals. Get on it you lazy bums.

[remzrevolution]

necessary changes have been made to the shield ability, additional requirement for second and third blessing added.

[Viseres]

Heightened Senses: The principle was banned from new creation when the restart happend (Azure, Bart, Nick and Don should remember). While I don't even agree with DBZ's sharigan being in SoS in it's state, it was not my decision on the Grandfather clause. What is the true rational that your bloodline grants you these abilities? Also to be able to have these abilities to make them fair, a form of downside needs to be made.

No seal maintained jutsus....I already said no to this once with Roy's orginal principle for his previous clan. The way chakra flows through and/or around a body is related to a seal which controls and adjusts it (thus for something to happen it has to be channeled). Thus for no seal being needed means that the normal chakra flow will activate the seal. Thus the seal will be activated 24/7 and the character really won't move or be alive from the loss of chakra.

Blessing 1: To start we are looking at a B rank jutsu due to it covering full body. Gaara's ability was easier to maintain due to he had an item to hold onto with his chakra and not having it free floating around him. With the fact that this ability can take up to 9 hits. How a hari hitting the target and let's say a dance of the creascent moon technique hitting the target only count as 1 hit, I do not see as fair. Considering most fights don't even last 9 hits, a genin being able to use it for a full 9 is a little too much (possibly 3 then 6 at chuunin and 9 at jounin). The princple for being a 'Genin' ability, unless it just covers a specific body part will prevent it from being so. As itself is a form of an ultimate defense.

As for the pain not being felt, once the shield 'breaks' does all the pain catch up with the user?

Blessing 2: This is actually a medical jutsu which is A rank (Mystical Palm technique). It will be in the jutsu store once someone is eligible to purchase A rank abilities.

Blessing 3: How does the scythe give the person bonus speed, etc? In rational what your char is doing is unleashing the first chakra gate while summoning a scythe. Having a weapon that reflects chakra absorption I really have no issue with in itself. But the weapon needs to maintain contact with the opponent to do so. The details of this are rather vague as Don has said. What are 'supernatural' levels? You talking normal speed of shunshin while a shunshin in this state is that of a Flying Thunder God?

[remzrevolution]

Heightened Senses: The principle was banned from new creation when the restart happend (Azure, Bart, Nick and Don should remember). While I don't even agree with DBZ's sharigan being in SoS in it's state, it was not my decision on the Grandfather clause. What is the true rational that your bloodline grants you these abilities? Also to be able to have these abilities to make them fair, a form of downside needs to be made.

No seal maintained jutsus....I already said no to this once with Roy's orginal principle for his previous clan. The way chakra flows through and/or around a body is related to a seal which controls and adjusts it (thus for something to happen it has to be channeled). Thus for no seal being needed means that the normal chakra flow will activate the seal. Thus the seal will be activated 24/7 and the character really won't move or be alive from the loss of chakra.

Blessing 1: To start we are looking at a B rank jutsu due to it covering full body. Gaara's ability was easier to maintain due to he had an item to hold onto with his chakra and not having it free floating around him. With the fact that this ability can take up to 9 hits. How a hari hitting the target and let's say a dance of the creascent moon technique hitting the target only count as 1 hit, I do not see as fair. Considering most fights don't even last 9 hits, a genin being able to use it for a full 9 is a little too much (possibly 3 then 6 at chuunin and 9 at jounin). The princple for being a 'Genin' ability, unless it just covers a specific body part will prevent it from being so. As itself is a form of an ultimate defense.

As for the pain not being felt, once the shield 'breaks' does all the pain catch up with the user?

Blessing 2: This is actually a medical jutsu which is A rank (Mystical Palm technique). It will be in the jutsu store once someone is eligible to purchase A rank abilities.

Blessing 3: How does the scythe give the person bonus speed, etc? In rational what your char is doing is unleashing the first chakra gate while summoning a scythe. Having a weapon that reflects chakra absorption I really have no issue with in itself. But the weapon needs to maintain contact with the opponent to do so. The details of this are rather vague as Don has said. What are 'supernatural' levels? You talking normal speed of shunshin while a shunshin in this state is that of a Flying Thunder God?

Heightened senses: banned? That would explain how I had a character with it after the restart. At least be consistent.

EDIT: I also haven't found any bloodlines or special abilities with a distinctive downside. Since there is no reasonable disadvantage to having better sense organs, I'm not going to add an unreasonable disadvantage to a bloodline that is already far weaker than the other bloodlines in SOS.

Seals: If you haven't read the entire explanation, or don't understand it, just ask about it. Don't tell me how my stuff works.

Blessing 1: Gaara's shield also protected against all damage and stayed up all the time. It also doesn't work anything like mine does.

Blessing 2: Okay, that really wouldn't change anything, even if it were true. If you were to read the blessing description, you would know that none of them are exactly like another 'jutsu'.

Blessing 3: it doesn't seem to matter how it works as the 'jutsu' of these clans have no description of that sort:

http://forum.narutochaos.com/showthread.php?t=12664
http://forum.narutochaos.com/showthread.php?t=11947
http://forum.narutochaos.com/showthread.php?t=11955

I didn't even bother to look at any others.

Of course the weapon would have to be in contact with the being it's draining chakra from. I didn't say supernatural 'levels'. To be safe, We'll say a 20% increase.

[Viseres]

Heightened senses: banned? That would explain how I had a character with it after the restart. At least be consistent.

EDIT: I also haven't found any bloodlines or special abilities with a distinctive downside. Since there is no reasonable disadvantage to having better sense organs, I'm not going to add an unreasonable disadvantage to a bloodline that is already far weaker than the other bloodlines in SOS.

Name one bloodline in sos that improves multiple senses [DBZ's doesn't count]. Yours aren't just 1 sense, but a gambit nonetheless

Seals: If you haven't read the entire explanation, or don't understand it, just ask about it. Don't tell me how my stuff works.

My issue still stands. These are jutsu which somehow you are able to maintain without seals or true control. It's a passive ability that actually does something and yet you really aren't controlling it. Now if you are trying to want a constant ability means you can not do any other jutsus while you have one of your seals activated nor chakra backed physical moves.

Blessing 1: Gaara's shield also protected against all damage and stayed up all the time. It also doesn't work anything like mine does.

Jutsus aren't graded on strength alone, the complexity also plays an important role. Your ability is far complex to gaara's as his had a physical substance to attach and control a part of.

Blessing 2: Okay, that really wouldn't change anything, even if it were true. If you were to read the blessing description, you would know that none of them are exactly like another 'jutsu'.

This is 95% of the same jutsu that mystical hands is. Thus it is in short the exact same jutsu meaning wait until you can learn A rank and you can learn it. Meaning you have another ability to create/work with

Blessing 3: it doesn't seem to matter how it works as the 'jutsu' of these clans have no description of that sort:

http://forum.narutochaos.com/showthread.php?t=12664
http://forum.narutochaos.com/showthread.php?t=11947
http://forum.narutochaos.com/showthread.php?t=11955

I didn't even bother to look at any others.

Of course the weapon would have to be in contact with the being it's draining chakra from. I didn't say supernatural 'levels'. To be safe, We'll say a 20% increase.

20% increase ehh. It can be worked out for a base. I'll need to talk to atleast 1 other person to work out situations and such (i'm already tipsy so that doesn't help much)

[remzrevolution]

"Name one bloodline in sos that improves multiple senses [DBZ's doesn't count]. Yours aren't just 1 sense, but a gambit nonetheless"

The one my old chuunin character had. I was also approved by Bart and Azure to gain heightened senses with Yami.

"My issue still stands. These are jutsu which somehow you are able to maintain without seals or true control. It's a passive ability that actually does something and yet you really aren't controlling it. Now if you are trying to want a constant ability means you can not do any other jutsus while you have one of your seals activated nor chakra backed physical moves."


Actually, they do have seals. please read. Is there any specific reason why I can't do any other moves while one of my seals is activated, because I've never heard anything even vaguely similar to that before.

"Jutsus aren't graded on strength alone, the complexity also plays an important role. Your ability is far complex to gaara's as his had a physical substance to attach and control a part of."

okay. mine compresses air. If you want to get so technical that you're forgetting what it actually does, that should be fine, though as I already said, I don't see any other clans that needed this level of technicality, or any technicality at all.

"This is 95% of the same jutsu that mystical hands is. Thus it is in short the exact same jutsu meaning wait until you can learn A rank and you can learn it. Meaning you have another ability to create/work with
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I laughed. I really, really did. First you tried to break the similarities into percentages, THEN you went so far as to say that 95% the same equals EXACTLY the same, or 100% the same.

Can we at least see the math here, or lack thereof?


EDIT: Now while I would love to sit around and argue with you for months until I prove my points, this is truly my last shot at SOS, and sadly, I'm willing to sacrifice a lot just to get this approved in a reasonable amount of time so I can roleplay. I would like to get this done in a timely manner, and without any more bashing or stupidity. Can we not just come to a reasonable compromise and be out of each other's hair?

If you have SO many problems with it, I can cut it from a clan to a personal bloodline and make things much simpler and less abusable. Most of your problems with seals and whatnot won't apply to my character anyway.

[remzrevolution]

While I did say that I would be inactive for awhile, it would be great if I could know what needs work when I get back. Please do not forget about this.

[Sol]

Well since you asked, I guess I'll throw my views of the situation in. Was going to wait for the pm's to go back and forth, but seeing as there is no real way this is going to be the official clan page, might as well have the discussions here...

Heightened Senses:

I personally have no problem with heightened senses, however as Vis said, for you to have heightened senses of any kind, there has to be a weakness of some sort. It's not a stupid SoS rule... it's a stupid life rule. For every percent you have something better, some other aspect gets it's share taken away...

Also your description of your heightened senses is very hazy. Please define what exactly makes your senses so much better then a normal humans. Mantis Shrimp, Cats, Ravens and other birds of prey all have a heightened visual ability compared to humans, but all in different ways. The Mantis Shrimp can see every spectrum of color and light, which humans cannot. This comes at the cost of having no depth perception, and this special sight is only a small band, the rest of their vision is grayscale. Cats can see almost perfectly in the dark. However it comes at the cost of poor day vision and an inability to focus on fine details, like writing. So in other words, if you have night vision you won't be able to read human written language. Ravens and birds of prey can see really far and have a measure of night vision, however their vision is kinda screwed up. It's kinda hard to describe, but think of it like this: Look at your room right now. It appears to be standing upright in front of your eyes correct (unless your high or something yes should be your answer)? Well a bird of prey's eyes would see the room as if the room was leaning away from the bird. With the floor deceptively close to the animal and the ceiling deceptively far.

So if you could post what makes your senses "better" then humans, we can actually get something done...

Just kinda smaller point that doesn't mean anything, but your clan's "personality" is an inherent contradiction. Your patron goddess whom you devote your very existence too, is the goddess of death and destruction. Yet your clan's people are peace loving tree hugger? Seems kinda heretic to me...

The First Blessing:

A hari grazes their shoulder, that's a hit. Impaled by a spear while an exploding tag goes off on it simultaneously, that's a hit.

I have a question here... In the second scenario you take two hits, one from the spear and the second from the exploding tag. Yet you say "thats a hit", as if those two only count as one. I might be reading too much into this, but if you could actually give me a solid answer to this that would be nice...

The shield is capable of absorbing thirty percent(30%) of damage from each attack. No pain is felt while the shield is up, but any other effects, such as poisoning, being blown or pushed away, still occur.

This makes no sense. The shield is only capable or reducing the damage by 30%, but the next sentence you say you feel no pain. Obviously 70% of the damage still remains to hit you and your shield goes over your body and wouldn't effect the nerves, so what gives? I can understand it might be a mistake because of the edit you made, confusing an aspect of the new version with the old and all that. However if what is posted is accurate, I would like to see the reasoning behind this...

If the shield is hit nine times, then it is 'broken'. If and when it is broken, an extra bit of the users chakra will be sucked away as a sort of 'fee' for allowing themselves to be hit nine times after activating the ability.

Who is exacting this price? Is it the seal itself? Because that would mean the seal is actually a curse mark, which would need negotiations itself and would probably be around the B-A rank...

The first blessing can be learned immediately, but clan members do not START with it. It must be learned and trained, and if any other members join, I will be watching their training.

As it stands, the shield is too complex to be a D or C rank. Two full body bubbles, one going over the other, at different frequencies, no maintained hand seals and the ability to stop 9 attacks with no set penalties, means that this would probably be an A rank. It could possibly be a B rank... but that would be iffy... And you cannot learn such a jutsu immediately. The chakra control required for that is well beyond any gennin and some chuunin...

The Second Blessing:

Statistically it's fine with me. However as Vis said, there is already a jutsu that does pretty much the same thing. If you look at two jutsu and can say: "Yeah they are kinda alike", then the one up for approval will not get passed. We don't allow duplicate jutsu here in the SoS simply because it is needless and gets pretty confusing for all judges involved...

The second blessing can be learned and trained when the user has gained 34 XP and is chuunin or higher

Do not pass go, do not collect $200... The original jutsu is an A rank, thus requiring over 120 xp to learn. This jutsu has the possible ability to heal even more then that one, so why should this one be so much less?

Even the requirements are mix matched. 34xp = Less then Chuunin. So why should it be 34 xp when Chuunin start at 54? Needlessly complicates things. Make the requirement 54 (which this will probably be negotiated up to an A rank, so it will probably be more then even that.) But 34 is just ridiculously low...

The Third Blessing:

I have real mixed feelings about this blessing. If anything it is the most balanced of the three in terms of your benefit to cost ratio. However, it seems that this ability was not obtained from your own imagination or even something in Narutoverse. Heck this thing seems a little like Ichigo's Bankai from Bleach... Which is an automatic contradiction to a Naruto RP and thus would not be allowed.

How does holding this weapon give you special speed, stamina and strength? In Bleach a Zanpakto is part of your spirit, releasing it to it's Bankai is like lifting the weights on your own spirit, thus granting you full access to your bodies capabilities. Yet in Naruto your Scythe would be a normal weapon that sucks chakra. If it is constantly taking your chakra how do you get anything from it? Is it injecting something into your body to displace the chakra lost?

And your actually contradicting yourself with this ability...

...users will experience increased speed, strength, and stamina...

Stamina and strength are two of the base components for chakra production. So a weapon that depletes you chakra gives you chakra's building blocks? Kinda hard to swallow...

Also the requirement levels for this are REALLY low. Summoning the weapon of a god for XP less then that of a Chuunin? This would probably be somewhere in the low hundreds of XP needed, not 52... Also, why a Scythe? Sekhmet was not a scythe user by mythology (maybe on occasion but that is not enough to limit this summoning to only a scythe). And the way this jutsu stands, it requires the knowledge of Summoning Jutsu as a pre-requisite. Meaning that it is at least a B rank, since that is the lowest level a summoning addition is...

May I suggest something a little different?

How about making it so that once the seal is activated, the weapon held by the user will gain Sekhmet's chakra absorbing hunger. This way, Summoning jutsu is not a pre-requisite and it allows the individual user's to have a little more creative freedom of expression. Some people might not like Scythes (which would require training to use)...

With that out of the way, I would like to add something on a personal level. This clan seems very thrown together. Kinda like you just came up with ideas on cool abilities that had nothing to do with each other, then stuck them together under the banner of blessing and made Sekhmet their source. Where does the shield and healing abilities come from? Sekhmet was the old sun goddess and dealt with death, destruction and even menstruation (sometimes the same thing... lol). Why would such a heavy hitting god give blessings that protect those in trouble and help the weak? It doesn't even have anything to do with cat people. Cats are known for curses and subtlety, not barriers and healing... It's like having a clan that devotes themselves to fire, but everybody uses earth jutsu...

[remzrevolution]

"I personally have no problem with heightened senses, however as Vis said, for you to have heightened senses of any kind, there has to be a weakness of some sort. It's not a stupid SoS rule... it's a stupid life rule. For every percent you have something better, some other aspect gets it's share taken away..."

I would first like to point out that that makes no sense. WHATSOEVER.

now on to business.

heightened senses: we'll go with, night vision, increased vision, and increased hearing. Cannot read the writing of other humans. 'Heightened' senses are 'gained' by having sense organs that are biologically superior to that of regular humans. (is biological the right word there?)

"Just kinda smaller point that doesn't mean anything, but your clan's "personality" is an inherent contradiction. Your patron goddess whom you devote your very existence too, is the goddess of death and destruction. Yet your clan's people are peace loving tree hugger? Seems kinda heretic to me...
"

"Later, she became a peaceful protectress of the righteous, closely linked with the benevolent Bast."

yay for reading the initial post.

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how about this: since everyone is being incredibly technical about everything, though i've already pointed out that there is no reason to be, I'll drop the first and second blessings. leaving me with just the one summoning.

hurray. we have now defeated the point of the 'clan'

"Stamina and strength are two of the base components for chakra production. So a weapon that depletes you chakra gives you chakra's building blocks? Kinda hard to swallow..."

we'll drop stamina.

"Also the requirement levels for this are REALLY low. Summoning the weapon of a god for XP less then that of a Chuunin? This would probably be somewhere in the low hundreds of XP needed, not 52."

i'm assuming, since this is the only clan 'jutsu', that the requirements are fine now.

"Also, why a Scythe?"

because I said so.

"And the way this jutsu stands, it requires the knowledge of Summoning Jutsu as a pre-requisite. Meaning that it is at least a B rank, since that is the lowest level a summoning addition is..."

considering that the 'summoning jutsu' is just activating a seal in this case, since only one thing can be summoned, that's not really a prerequisite. the user just has to learn to activate a seal.

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"With that out of the way, I would like to add something on a personal level. This clan seems very thrown together. Kinda like you just came up with ideas on cool abilities that had nothing to do with each other, then stuck them together under the banner of blessing and made Sekhmet their source. Where does the shield and healing abilities come from? Sekhmet was the old sun goddess and dealt with death, destruction and even menstruation (sometimes the same thing... lol). Why would such a heavy hitting god give blessings that protect those in trouble and help the weak? It doesn't even have anything to do with cat people. Cats are known for curses and subtlety, not barriers and healing... It's like having a clan that devotes themselves to fire, but everybody uses earth jutsu..."

"Later, she became a peaceful protectress of the righteous, closely linked with the benevolent Bast.
"

Oh, how I love the fact that my FIRST post answers these needless and pointless questions.

[Sol]

I would first like to point out that that makes no sense. WHATSOEVER.

What part made no sense? All I said was that if you have some aspect of your physiology that is superior to the norm, some other aspect will get undercut and won’t be at the standard level. And by standard level we are talking about what you call “normal human levels”.

heightened senses: we'll go with, night vision, increased vision, and increased hearing. Cannot read the writing of other humans. 'Heightened' senses are 'gained' by having sense organs that are biologically superior to that of regular humans. (is biological the right word there?)

Such a hazy description… What exactly makes your vision and hearing better? Can you see in a different color spectrum? Can you see farther then a normal human, if so how much farther? What do you mean by increased hearing? Does that mean you can hear higher frequencies, lower frequencies or both? Don’t just say “increased” without any sort of descriptor attached because that could mean almost anything…

"Later, she became a peaceful protectress of the righteous, closely linked with the benevolent Bast."

yay for reading the initial post.

By using a real goddess you are bound by the real mythology of said deity. There is no mention of Shekmet becoming peaceful anywhere in Egyptian mythology. And it’s doubtful that she became that way when the Greeks took over and altered the culture. I would like to see some of your source material for this statement…

I assume you must be talking about where Ra tricked Shekmet into drinking the liquor instead of the blood of men which made her passive and an aspect of Hathor. However you must realize the context of the situation. Shekmet was on a killing rampage where she nearly whipped out all of humanity. This pacification would imply a temporary cease to her aggressive nature because of drunkenness. It does not state that she stayed this way permanently…

If you want to go with a made up goddess, that is fine, do as you wish. But if you stick your neck out and go with something that actually existed, you had better darn sure get the details right…

how about this: since everyone is being incredibly technical about everything, though i've already pointed out that there is no reason to be, I'll drop the first and second blessings. leaving me with just the one summoning.

hurray. we have now defeated the point of the 'clan'

Without these technical questions you have very little detail to work with. Which will cause great confusion when it comes time to judge these abilities in battle, because there are no set parameters to how it works. All jutsu that go under approval get a similar level of treatment. Yours just seem a little more painful because you are acting very stubborn about these things…


we'll drop stamina.

Alright, that’s fine…

i'm assuming, since this is the only clan 'jutsu', that the requirements are fine now.

You are assuming wrong. Just because your clan has one jutsu that is higher level doesn’t mean that you get to cheapen the cost of that one jutsu.

Would it be fair for me to say: “Hey you know what? I’m fine with just 15 jutsu instead of 30, however in exchange you have to give me the Sharingan. I mean, obviously since I only have half as many jutsu as everybody else the requirements are fine now…”

Obviously it wouldn’t happen. Just because you are throwing a tissy fit doesn’t mean that you can get a jutsu for one rank lower, with no real changes to its abilities. As long as its strength remains as it is, the rank and requirements stand…

considering that the 'summoning jutsu' is just activating a seal in this case, since only one thing can be summoned, that's not really a prerequisite. the user just has to learn to activate a seal.

This honestly made me laugh… really it did…

If knowing how to activate a seal didn’t require summoning jutsu (or some sort of other jutsu that is similar), then everybody would be pulling god weapons out of scrolls and body parts. Activating a seal to make something come out, requires Summoning jutsu. I mean, it’s even in your description of the technique…

…representative of Sekhmet's vengeance is summoned to the users hand…

Lol… “doesn’t require summoning jutsu”…

If that were the case then there would be no point to the Rashaman addition to your summoning jutsu, which is available for purchase in the store… Too summon some special items that are not already sealed within an object, you need a summoning addition. Thus summoning jutsu is a pre-requisite…


Oh, how I love the fact that my FIRST post answers these needless and pointless questions.

Ya know, for some reason you have had a really crappy attitude over this entire process and it is not appreciated. I am not doing this because it’s fun for me, it doesn’t help my rp’ing. It only takes up my valuable time, answering your butthead remarks, which I could be using writing up a training post. I could even use the time I spent writing this, to nail down the specifics on the up coming Chuunin exam. The least you could do to thank us for helping you, is to be a decent person through the process. But that is just too much for you isn’t it?

I seriously recommend that you take a chill pill. You’re not all that, you are not hot stuff. Get off your stupid high horse and actually be a decent human being. We have done nothing but help you through this tedious process and in return you bad mouth us the entire way. If you want to actually get something done, other then bitch and moan, then I suggest you act your age (and if your too immature for that, at least pretend to be civil), and everything will go much smoother…

[remzrevolution]

Ya know, for some reason you have had a really crappy attitude over this entire process and it is not appreciated. I am not doing this because it’s fun for me, it doesn’t help my rp’ing. It only takes up my valuable time, answering your butthead remarks, which I could be using writing up a training post. I could even use the time I spent writing this, to nail down the specifics on the up coming Chuunin exam. The least you could do to thank us for helping you, is to be a decent person through the process. But that is just too much for you isn’t it?

I seriously recommend that you take a chill pill. You’re not all that, you are not hot stuff. Get off your stupid high horse and actually be a decent human being. We have done nothing but help you through this tedious process and in return you bad mouth us the entire way. If you want to actually get something done, other then bitch and moan, then I suggest you act your age (and if your too immature for that, at least pretend to be civil), and everything will go much smoother…

You sir, are a hypocrite.

If you were to go about your questioning in a civil manner, we wouldn't have this problem to begin with. I have yet to see you ask any relevant question in a decent manner. I'm certainly not going to thank you for helping me, because you have not helped me at all. Looking up at the quoted section of your post, I see you mention your help twice, so again, you have not helped me at all. You have said why things can't be approved, usually without any sort of reasoning, and without offering suggestions.

I'd like to think that I'm acting far more mature than you, since I'm not the one calling you a 'butthead', telling you you're not a decent human being, and saying that you're bitching and moaning. Also, you say that I'm wasting your time with this. You are a council member. It's your job. You're not doing this to help me, or be nice. You're doing this because it's your job.

I would certainly like to wait around until you actually read my posts in context, but it just seems like a waste of time. I'll stick to playing without a clan or bloodline, or do PvE only.

[Sol]

If you were to go about your questioning in a civil manner, we wouldn't have this problem to begin with. I have yet to see you ask any relevant question in a decent manner.

Really?

Also your description of your heightened senses is very hazy. Please define what exactly makes your senses so much better then a normal humans. Mantis Shrimp, Cats, Ravens and other birds of prey all have a heightened visual ability compared to humans, but all in different ways. The Mantis Shrimp can see every spectrum of color and light, which humans cannot. This comes at the cost of having no depth perception, and this special sight is only a small band, the rest of their vision is grayscale. Cats can see almost perfectly in the dark. However it comes at the cost of poor day vision and an inability to focus on fine details, like writing. So in other words, if you have night vision you won't be able to read human written language. Ravens and birds of prey can see really far and have a measure of night vision, however their vision is kinda screwed up. It's kinda hard to describe, but think of it like this: Look at your room right now. It appears to be standing upright in front of your eyes correct (unless your high or something yes should be your answer)? Well a bird of prey's eyes would see the room as if the room was leaning away from the bird. With the floor deceptively close to the animal and the ceiling deceptively far.

There was no sarcasm or rudeness in any of this. All I did was ask you what makes your senses better. So right there your argument is mute, but I will continue because I have more...

I have a question here... In the second scenario you take two hits, one from the spear and the second from the exploding tag. Yet you say "thats a hit", as if those two only count as one. I might be reading too much into this, but if you could actually give me a solid answer to this that would be nice...

Again no rude behavior or implications at all. I simply asked for a clarification. Weather you decide to answer it or not because you are throwing a tizzy fit doesn't stop the fact I asked this question in a moderate manner that couldn't be found offensive to anybody...

This makes no sense. The shield is only capable or reducing the damage by 30%, but the next sentence you say you feel no pain. Obviously 70% of the damage still remains to hit you and your shield goes over your body and wouldn't effect the nerves, so what gives? I can understand it might be a mistake because of the edit you made, confusing an aspect of the new version with the old and all that. However if what is posted is accurate, I would like to see the reasoning behind this...

The first sentence might have a little more heat then a normal response, however by this time you were already calling people out using the same words. By that logic you were already throwing the flames around before I even got here, so if you find it offensive then you better check the rafter in your own eye bub... Besides, even later in the question I go back and retract all blame from you by saying that it was a possible mistake. So again, in reality there is no real hypocrisy going on here...

Who is exacting this price? Is it the seal itself? Because that would mean the seal is actually a curse mark, which would need negotiations itself and would probably be around the B-A rank...

Again, I don't see any bad attitude here. Simply a series of questions to get some clarification. However you seem to be blinded by your own insecurities and pride and can't actually see this, so you go around trashing me of being a hypocrite. I could really go on to quote all of my first questioning (minus the last paragraph) and we would all see that there is no hypocrisy in any of my words. I asked calmly and for the most part politely. And what happens? Your first words aren't in kind, they are rude and insulting. A reasonable attitude would have responded: "I don't understand what you are getting at here, can you clarify such and such?"

And the fact is Remz you were attacking people with your bad attitude about this, long before I even posted here. You were getting into it with Vis, throwing around burns to his "exactly the same" reasoning, completely missing the point of what he was saying and going after the semantics of his words. And even before that you attacked Azure, who had NOTHING to do with the situation, in the spamzone in front of everybody. So don't give me this, you were in a crappy mood for a long time and were prone to your aggressiveness before I came into this thread. You never gave anybody a chance really and your first response to any sort of opposition or refining attempts was to over boil.

I'm certainly not going to thank you for helping me, because you have not helped me at all.

I never asked you to thank me. I asked you to drop the bad attitude and act like a decent person. Never once did I ask for you to thank me or anybody else.

Looking up at the quoted section of your post, I see you mention your help twice, so again, you have not helped me at all.

You seem to be really good at looking at a post and completely missing all the facts. I never once said "my help", I said "our help", meaning the council as a whole. Out of the four council members that have been involved in this matter, either directly or indirectly, you have verbally attacked three of them. And you also badmouthed the fifth council member, who again has nothing to do with the situation. Those are pretty crappy odds and if this were a graded test you would have failed utterly.

You have said why things can't be approved, usually without any sort of reasoning, and without offering suggestions.

You cannot be serious. Honestly you can't be serious... This has to be some sort of stupid unfunny joke. Because if you really believe this then you are not living in reality my friend... Go back and look at my posts in this thread and I DARE you to quote a single "no" response from me, where I offer no reasoning on why I am saying it, ACCURATELY! And offering suggestions? Maybe I stopped because every time I do I get verbally attacked as a response! My entire private message to you with acceptable statistics on what your shield was able to do, was 100% suggestion on how to make the ability work! And what do I find in my inbox when I log in the next day? A reply, pretty much telling me my version was worthless and a whole bunch of other flames to accompany it.

May I suggest something a little different?

How about making it so that once the seal is activated, the weapon held by the user will gain Sekhmet's chakra absorbing hunger. This way, Summoning jutsu is not a pre-requisite and it allows the individual user's to have a little more creative freedom of expression. Some people might not like Scythes (which would require training to use)...

Oh my god... Was that a Suggestion!? And one that I put in this thread for everybody to see!? Say it ain't so!

I'd like to think that I'm acting far more mature than you, since I'm not the one calling you a 'butthead', telling you you're not a decent human being, and saying that you're bitching and moaning.

Right after falsely accusing me of being a hypocrite? Go ahead... you can think that. However your own words are bitting you in the butt right now...

Also, you say that I'm wasting your time with this. You are a council member. It's your job. You're not doing this to help me, or be nice. You're doing this because it's your job.

Yes you are wasting my time. You are wasting my time, just like how a customer calls CS and goes off on tangents with the Tech. It IS my job, but I could have ignored your clan just like how the tech could have ignored that person's call. I have the right to refuse service to ANYBODY I don't want to serve. Yet here I am, trying to work this out with you. However, like that caller, you go off onto tangents and rude behavior. Go look at the other RP sites around the net. You will see that if there is ANY hint of a bad attitude like yours when going through an approval, they throw the issue out the door right then and there. And talking about jobs... I DARE you to talk to a prospective employer, a client or anybody in your place of employment like how you talk to us here. Have a level of respect to the people who are doing things for you, even if you don't agree with them. There have been several opportunities already for me to throw this "clan" into the bin never to be seen again. Yet here I am, still hoping that you won't be petty and will actually listen to something said to you. But that isn't going to happen is it?

I would certainly like to wait around until you actually read my posts in context, but it just seems like a waste of time. I'll stick to playing without a clan or bloodline, or do PvE only.

Your choice, do as you want. If you want to go without the clan, then post your character stats and get this over with. If you want to go PvE only then simply say the word and the council will vote on it. Just remember, if you go PvE only then you can't engage in any activity that would put you against other people. No special events, no CE... nothing.

So the ball is in your court...

[Nick]

You sir, are a hypocrite.

If you were to go about your questioning in a civil manner, we wouldn't have this problem to begin with. I have yet to see you ask any relevant question in a decent manner. I'm certainly not going to thank you for helping me, because you have not helped me at all. Looking up at the quoted section of your post, I see you mention your help twice, so again, you have not helped me at all. You have said why things can't be approved, usually without any sort of reasoning, and without offering suggestions.

I'd like to think that I'm acting far more mature than you, since I'm not the one calling you a 'butthead', telling you you're not a decent human being, and saying that you're bitching and moaning. Also, you say that I'm wasting your time with this. You are a council member. It's your job. You're not doing this to help me, or be nice. You're doing this because it's your job.

I would certainly like to wait around until you actually read my posts in context, but it just seems like a waste of time. I'll stick to playing without a clan or bloodline, or do PvE only.



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[wowreadtherules]

hello. obviously, this is a dual account. This is Remz. I'm using it to post ONCE. Seeing as Roy did the same thing, it should be fine. However, I'm sure it won't be.

Okay, Sol. Of course my points are going to look stupid if you pick out exactly the pieces of our posts that suit your purpose. I don't care though. I said I was done, I'm done. I was hoping to end the arguments and whatnot so there would be no further insult throwing. I really, really just wanted everyone to chill, but you had to get in the last word, and apparently report me.

My account has been banned for "Disrespect to his superiors". Firstly, Sol is not a mod or admin, and thus, not my 'superior'.Secondly, no disrespect was meant. I'm sorry that I kindly pointed out that your insults were untrue. I am finished with SOS for good. I shall do no more roleplaying in this forum. Now you're happy. I simply ask that my ban is lifted, since I really, truly did not mean to be disrespectful or insult you.

As far as I'm concerned, you were right about everything. I suck at roleplay, I suck at being creative, I suck at reading the rules and abiding by them. I suck at respecting my equals. I suck at being polite.

I'm fairly certain that sums up to, "I suck at everything I have ever tried to do on this forum."

Now, I am sorry that I ever let things escalate to this point. I started this thread with full knowledge that this would happen, yet I over-reacted when it did.

I just hope that staff will have be reasonable with me just this once, and lift my ban so I can at least talk to the people I've met here. I did join this forum specifically for SOS, but I have no problem going without it now.

Sorry mods, for opening a second account, and sorry all you SOS staffers for wasting so much of your time, and sorry Roy, for wasting even more of yours.

Remz.