Chapter 484 Discussion

[weltell]

Morias defeated but know Kumas fighting and it will be 2 weeks before we get to see this chapter.:mad:

http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/483/19/

[samnas]

Moria died, i am gonna miss those great facial expressions ...

But Kuma is still there, Strawhats can't beat him in their current condition, rolling pirates are nothing compared to him, i am certain this time that someone will interfere, but who ??

Also i noticed that Hogback and Absolem are planning to do something ... wonder if they are the ones to help them, but why would they do that ? ...

Or if Oda wants the strawhats to be more famous and their names should be known and the people should fear them in the New World also than i think that the strawhats will team up and defeat kuma ... but its highly unlikely ...

[weltell]

I agree that someone will interfere. It would be nice if it was Kaidou as this is the perfect opportunity to show the power of a Yonkou against a Shichibukai.

This would also show the Strawhats what going to the new world means in terms of strength and would show Luffy the type of people that he would have to defeat to become the Pirate King and give all the Strawhats motivation to increase their strength for the coming battles.

[samnas]

I seriously don't think that Kaidou would interfere and tries to fight a SB, he has no reason to do that ... even Kuma doesn't look like a person who will go against WG's orders ...

I just want to know what are Hogback and Absolem planning ... and i just noticed even cindry is dead :Cry:, she was such a beauty ...

[weltell]

I was saying that it would be interesting if it did happen.

As for those 2 I'm not sure if they are attempting to escape like Perona or if they have something else in mind. But given that the good doctor needed Absolom maybe its something that requires his invisibility.

[steve]

I would love to see a one on one with zoro and kum. It would really make the two strongest strawhats legendary if it were to happen

[KageNaruto]

I would love to see a one on one with zoro and kum. It would really make the two strongest strawhats legendary if it were to happen

Except that any of the Strawhats defeating another Shikibukai right after Thriller Bark is pure BS. There, I said it.
I know it won't happen, but if Ace comes to help that woud be badass.

[samnas]

I somehow agree with steve that it would be good to see one on one with zoro and kuma, but can't say if zoro is really in that condition or not, and zoro also has to start beating a SB or two, since only luffy is the one who is doing this job ...

Ace coming to help will be a good surprise but if Ace dead/captured by black beard i don't see him coming ... and kuma also seems to know something about Ace ...

[steve]

ya, someone will probably interfere and we will get a "i'll be back to kill you strawhats later" sortof line. But ya,I agree samnas, zoro needs to step up and start dropping some big names himself. So far, he also takes out the second in command. We need to see him step his game up so he can start pulling off those utterly epic "how did he ever win" wins like luffy always has. I can't believe that Oda is going to have luffy alone take down the SB. Also, we are in the second half of the series, nearly in the new world. It's time for Oda to start letting some of the bigger names drop. For kuma to go down, it isn't that huge of an impact on the overall plot, but will just increase strawhats notoriety. There are still lots of sb and lots of other celebrities that the strawhats haveto face eventually. Lots of these baddies don't have crews(like kuma) and whats the point of the rest of the strawhats if luffy fights each big one.



Maybe zoro will get killed right now? haha can you imagine. I would stop reading one piece.

[Thistle]

Won't happen that the strawhats defeat two shichibukai in a row. Even if they weren't exhausted it would probably be the toughest fight they had so far (since their opponents increase in strength) so it's highly likely that something happens to let them escape from Thriller Bark.

[weltell]

Given Kumas ability it will have to be a significant interuption to allow the Strawhats to escape.

[steve]

ah... I think someone from the D. family will make an appearance...

[weltell]

I hadn't thought about that possiblity. If Dragon arrived I'm fairly sure that Kuma would take notice and it would be a good chance for Luffy to meet his father. And he would probably know about Ace's fate.

[samnas]

This week there is a chapter, next week no ... Spoiler pic:
http://aycu04.webshots.com/image/37403/2000908013594580227_rs.jpg

Originally Posted by Xophien
Seems like Kuma is using the powers of the ニキュニキュの実　Nikyu Nikyu Fruit and is thus a 肉球人間 Paw Man.

"Paw" in japanese is "nikukyuu", and if you pronounce that quickly it sounds somewhat like "nikyu", hence the name of the fruit I guess



New spoiler pics:

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And a spoiler:
Originally Posted by Kiavik at AP:

Chapter 484 Puni (is the sound that attacks do when they bounce off Kuma's hand)
Frontispice:　Bibi playing harp (duh)

Kuma's attack causes confusion between Laura's pirates. Zoro stands in the way of Kuma.
Zoro: Fight with me... I dont need help, don't humiliate me!!
Kuma: You guys have a very big reputation... Straw hat Luffy gathered up a really skillful crew...

Zoro starts fighting.
Zoro: 2-swords style!! Iai... Rashomon!!

Kuma deflects Zoro's blow. Zoro dodges. Kuma attacks and leaves paw marks.
Zoro: 36 Pound Cannon!!
The attack is about to behead Kuma but he deflects it again

Zoro: Thats an ability user... He can deflect everything!!!
Kuma: I ate the Paw Paw fruit... I'm a paw man...

Later, Franky gets blown away.
Robin: Maybe he's capable of reflecting even... Usually Franky's Coup de Vent never fails...
Kuma: Pressure gun... moving air at the speed of light I create a shockwave that blows away everything!!

Kuma raises his leg then stomps like sumo wrestlers do (???)
Kuma: Time's up...

Zoro does a desperate attack (tooth something?)
Sanji: Concasse!
Usopp: F...f...Firebird Star!!!
None works （Sanji's one hits him directly on his face but no luck）. Kuma gathers air on his hand.

Kuma: Your life is in danger... so i'll give you a chance. Surrender Rufy and I'll let you live. The Government will be ok with it anyway.
Everyone: NEVER!!!
Kuma: Too bad. Bear Shock!!!

Kuma's attack hits a huge area.

End

[weltell]

The battle against Kuma doesn't seem to be going very well as he seems to negate every attack the Strawhats use. Though if the spoiler is correct its suprising that he only wants Luffy instead of the entire crew.

[samnas]

I like that pic where kuma shows his paws and everyone is amazed and imagining a cat ...

None of the attacks works on kuma, now what ... if he uses air to push everything back, maybe Robin can try something on him ...

Luffy is the one who defeated crocodile, he is the one who defeated Moria, he has the highest bounty of his crew and he is the strawhat captain ... so without a captain strawhats will be finished ...

[weltell]

True but all of the Strawhats had a hand in the destruction that befell Enies Lobby and CP9 and all the Strawhats have bounties of reasonable size with the exception of Chopper. Also Robin is very important to the government to find Pluton. But you are correct in saying that Luffy is what holds the crew together.

I like Kumas abilities much more than Morias.

[LilPal504]

me 2 but how does that explain him warping everywhere.......I agree all the SHP are dangerous but luffy is the only 1 to beat a SB meaning without him thery're not near as big as threat

[samnas]

So kuma's ability is not teleportation but moving things at the speed of light when touched by his paw ... seriously how come a paw paw fruit gave this kind of power ...

BTW, his power sounds like "GTFO" of my way ...

[ngyitkenn]

i see another dead bear, oda's killin off the SB. maybe to prepare for the ending?
OP has almost reached ch500 in a few more months, wad other manga goes tat far?? (cept dragon ball? nt too sure)
bt im happy to see this arc end in a year, unlike enies lobby...ugh 2 n a half yrs...
in OP, there's no "impossible" tats y itz so fun to read, i see luffy wakin up to kick kuma's butt!!

[samnas]

Believe me, i don't see luffy waking up and fighting kuma ... now i really want to see what the other crew is able to do against a SB without Luffy's support ... Luffy always protects his crew now its time for the crew to protect their captain as Kuma is interested in him ...

[ngyitkenn]

i say SH crew will put up a good fight, then time for luffy to kick butt ^o^:fencing::banana:

[samnas]

Chinese Scans added, still waiting for the translations ...

[Manga] One Piece 484 (http://forum.narutochaos.com/showthread.php?t=14480)


EDIT: Rough Trans added

[weltell]

Thanks for the raw. Its strange how he was able to avoid Sanjis kick and cause that massive shockwave.

[Valleyman]

Well, the scan is on OneManga.

Lmfao, the "Paw Paw" fruit??! Sounds damn funny.

But Kuma's ability is pretty strong. My bet is that someone interfere's the next chapter and is able to shield them with an ability.

[samnas]

Read the scans, damn it was good, but truly Paw Paw fruit, LMAO ... i loved the Strawhats reactions after they heard his name ... it was so funny ...

SO kuma's body is made of steel or his body can also deflect, i don't get this ... even so his power to deflect everything pretty much owns ... to move everything from his way, even air ...

Now i am sure some one will interfere, strawhats are not gonna win this fight on their own ...

BTW, someone create the next prediction thread ...