Chapter 479 Discussion

[KageNaruto]

NIGHTMARE LUFFY COMPLETELY OVERPOWERS OZ!
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So Luffy has arrived, and not a moment too soon. However, will his power be enough to put an actual stop to Oz and Moria or will he run out of time? Since almost the whole crew is out of action it's up to the captain to finish the job!

I personally think Luffy will tear up Oz enough to at the very least, make him not a concern, perhaps then salt will be put into his mouth. Then the shadows will escape from Luffy and he has to fight Moria using his own powers. I also feels this conflict might not be resolved in the end. That, or Moria is defeated in a really unorthodox way, and not by Luffy beating him up.

[Valleyman]

I agree that sounds plauible.

I predict Nightmare Luffy will beat Oz and get his shadow back within the 10 minutes he has those shadows. I would really like though if they show him using a bunch of the techniques he gained from them and stuff. It would be stupid if it was over so fast he didn't have to use any of them, or only like 1 of them.

I also wonder if the other Schibukai will do anything. I doubt it though since he seems to be more interested in Ace.

I've also been wondering, where did Brook go.

[Thistle]

I personally think Luffy will tear up Oz enough to at the very least, make him not a concern, perhaps then salt will be put into his mouth. Then the shadows will escape from Luffy and he has to fight Moria using his own powers. I also feels this conflict might not be resolved in the end. That, or Moria is defeated in a really unorthodox way, and not by Luffy beating him up.

The salt is gone, perhaps they could try to scratch it up from the ground but as long as Moria is inside of Oz this won't work. But i agree that we will probably see some unorthodox way. And despite the splendid entry of Nightmare Luffy Oz isn't defeated yet. I think we will see Luffy cut his arm of next chapter.

I've also been wondering, where did Brook go.

He is down and out, together with nearly everyone else.

[samnas]

IMO, Luffy's fight against Oz is useless, because Oz is a zombie he don't feel anything, he just have to take out his shadow and the best way is to put salt in his mouth ... since Luffy don't now about it yet, Usoop or Nami will tell him to do it, and Luffy will throw him in the sea and i can see that happening ...
I also wonder if the other Schibukai will do anything. I doubt it though since he seems to be more interested in Ace.
He will not do anything, he just came to inform Moria about what the Govt is thinking about the new SB ...
I've also been wondering, where did Brook go.
He's already down, he was the second one i guess to go down after Franky ...

[KageNaruto]

Whatever happens, I feel it will be really awsome. So far the One Piece manga has been the most entertaining and awsome for me, beating the Bleach and Naruto updates out of the water. Especially the fight where they first flip Oz upside-down.

Moria's ability is really cheap. It can be put to so many uses, and can change the law of nature itself.

[weltell]

It'll be funny when Oz's arm falls off, but I really want to see Luffys new abilities. As for Kuma I think the only role he will play in this arc will be to tell Luffy of Aces defeat or death.

[samnas]

Yeah this sudden appearance of Luffy and especially how he punched and flipped Oz was really great, better than this weeks other manga out there ...

I don't think that there will be any use to break or cut off Oz's arm anymore, it was needed to reduce his strength but clearly Luffy is much stronger than him right now ... Now i am expecting Usoop and Nami to help out their fallen members while Luffy is taking care of Oz ...

[Valleyman]

As for Kuma I think the only role he will play in this arc will be to tell Luffy of Aces defeat or death.


Ooh, that's actually plausible. It would really blow if Ace(I'm an Ace fan) died though, but then Luffy would really want to kill Teach. It would be an interesting turn of events.

[samnas]

I don't think that Ace would die so soon, first he is from Monkey family, second he is one of the elemental users, as far as i remember the element users are considered to be the strongest and his power are not even fully explored yet ... He could have been defeated or let's say captured by black beard to lure Luffy ...

BTW, what do you guys say, is Ace a Logia type? ...

[weltell]

I don't think that Ace would die so soon, first he is from Monkey family, second he is one of the elemental users, as far as i remember the element users are considered to be the strongest and his power are not even fully explored yet ... He could have been defeated or let's say captured by black beard to lure Luffy ...

BTW, what do you guys say, is Ace a Logia type? ...


Why would he need to capture Luffy anymore. Blackbeard was trying to catch Luffy so he could become a Shichibukai. But if Ace is alive it would be a good way to lure Luffy into an ambush.

Hes definitely a Logia type. When he was shot by Blackbeards sniper the bullets just went through him.

[samnas]

Well if he captured/defeated/killed Luffy, he will be famous as he defeated a 300 million bounty person and the Govt will be pretty happy with him ...
Could this be considered a spoiler pic:
Original:

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[weltell]

That spoiler assuming its real is hard to make out but seems like Oz is being knocked onto the castle and Moria having a very shocked look on his face. I really hope it a real spoiler.

[samnas]

Damn a small spoiler is here:
Originally Posted by Battle Franky at AP:

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簡単にﾙﾌｨがｵｰｽﾞを海に投げる、ｵｰｽﾞ浄化、逃げるﾓﾘｱをボコボコ。ﾙﾌｨから10 0体の影抜け る。ﾙﾌｨ気絶、TB落ちたとみんなよろこぶ。

Luffy tosses Odz into the ocean easily, Odz is purified, Moria gets beat down while trying to run away. The 100 shadows leave Luffy's body. Luffy faints, Thriller Bark has fallen, everyone's happy.

OMG!!!!!!

[Thistle]

I don't like the arc coming to an end this suddenly so i don't trust this spoiler. But Luffy throwing Oz into the sea could happen, it's the logical thing to do.

[samnas]

Well it was clear from the previous fight which was like around 10 chapter or so that Moria was just using Oz to fight against the strawhats and finish them off as he himself is not capable of doing so ... so if Oz is down it was expected that Moria would come down soon but i didn't expected this fast, anyhow, its good that they hvae won, now for their new bounty ...Holy Pics, previous spoiler confirmed ...

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[weltell]

While its great to see Luffy beating the hell out off Oz. He seems to have fallen asleep and while it could be his Narcaleptic tendencies more than likely its to shadows leaving his body.

[samnas]

Yeah!, wait, "Narcaleptic tendencies" :confused: *opens a dictionary and looks for its meaning* ... no its not because of Narcaleptic tendencies, its just that 100 shadows left his body and his body couldn't handle that situation and he fall asleep ...

So in the end Luffy even used his sword, and hit a straight punch to Moria and he went out ... i always knew Moria was just using Oz and is not that strong to fight Luffy alone ...

Damn Luffy just saved the day again, and also alone ..

[weltell]

He cut right through Oz with almost no effort. Especially funny when he was smacking Oz around. Though I'm kinda happy that Luffy can only rely on his own abilities for the fight against Moria.

[samnas]

Luffy smacking Oz will really be something to watch, i can't wait for the chapter to be released ...

After looking at the pics carefully it looks like that Luffy didn't rely on his own powers to hit Moria, he was still having those shadows in him, that hand that puched Moria looked pretty big and which can't be Luffy's hand ...

[weltell]

I was refering to after the shadows had left his body but i'm sure Moria was more than a little suprised when a fist went through Oz's body and nailedhim in the face.

[samnas]

Well even after shadows left Luffy he just fell down as seen in the last frame ...

BTW, something just came to me (yeah sometimes), Moria is down ok fine, but what about his shadown as his shadwo seem to have some separate mind and maybe his shadow can bring him back ...

[weltell]

That would be very disheartening to beat up a shichibukai just to have his shadow heal him and he stars the fight all over again.

[samnas]

Yeah it would suck but think it in this way, if his shadow somehow wakes him up, he will not be that powerful as the original, so even Usoop or Nami can take care of him if not Luffy himself ... but yeah i don't think it will happen since his shadow must have some sort of connection to his original body like the others ...

BTW, i really want to see Luffy's new bounty ... OP is currently the best going manga out there ...

[weltell]

I agree that one piece is better than most of the other manga series out right now including bleach. Though I think that the current Naruto arc has the potential to be really great if its doesn't have a rediculus turn of events.

When Luffy defeats Moria his bounty will probably be on par with the highest of the shichibukai or even possibly the lowest of the Yonkou. I say this because defeating a shichibukai right on the heels if defeating CP9 and destroyin Enes Lobby will make the world government think that Luffy is directly targeting themselves.

[samnas]

There is still something that amazes me, Moria once said that the shadows he captured will only return to its owners when he will say so, so if Moria is dead how will the shadows return to their owners or Moria was bragging before ...

[Valleyman]

Hmm, one would assume the zombies would stop functioning if Moria died, but maybe not. It would blow if he died and no one got their shadows back(which obviously wouldn't happen because there are still more OP adventures ^^) xD.

I also want to see Luffy's new bounty. Maybe like 400 mill? I hope the rest of the crew gets more too. Hopefully Chopper gets at least a few million bounty >.>.

[KageNaruto]

That Moria punch, I can't tell if it's N. Luffy's punch or a punch in gear 3rd... how big is Moria exactly?

Anyway, this just shows that Luffy still needs to get stronger to take on the Shichibukai. The strength of tons of people won't be implemented into you through their shadows every time.

[weltell]

The shadows increased his size so I don't think it was third gear. Despite the fact that Moria is small next to Oz he's either a giant or an abnormally tall human like Whitebeard or Kuma.

[samnas]

I don't think that it was Gear 3, if it was it then Luffy would shrunk and not fall asleep ...More Spoiler pics:http://aycu25.webshots.com/image/34224/2000107601646133994_rs.jpg

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Damn, the whole chapter summary is here, where is the chapter itself ...
Originally Posted by dirt monkey AL:

Chapter 479 "The Warrior of Hope"

Narration: Final Battle Luffy VS Odz

Rolling Pirates: [He's doing it, he's doing it. He's matching with Odz! Now with what's inside!
They're here! The Star of Hope's crew! Everyone's fought back! The greatly wounded! Someone even became a skeleton!
Brutal!
They're all in great danger!]
{These conversations don't belong to anyone in particular.}

Usopp: Hey! What's with this crowd!?
Nami: What, are they zombies!?
Usopp: What'll they do to Zoro and the others!?
Nami: Let's hurry, and go!
Rolling Pirates: Save the crew of the Star of Hope!
Lola: Take them to a secure location for emergeny treatment! I've taken a liking to these guys!
Crew: Three of them had their shadows stolen! Be careful moving them!
Lola: Haa ... We'll rely on him! Nightmare Luffy!

Zombies: [Waa~ waa~! What's going on!? Who is that!? He just blew that huge body away! What kind of creature is he!?] Zombies: [Hey, are you listening!? Now, inside Odz's belly ... Moria-sama got in there!!]
Zombie: [Huh!? Our lord is actually fighting by himself!? The governor of all Thriller Bark's zombies ......!?
And with the strongest special zombie!?]
Zombie: [What a joke! Odz was called the "Demon" from 500 years ago - a huge, legendary villain!! And our governor is Gecko Moria, one of the Shichibukai!!]

Odz: Oaah~~~!
Luffy: Nuooo~~!
Moria: Guwah! What's wrong!!? Hey! Odz!
Odz: Uwah!
{Moria rolls around in Odz's belly.}

Usopp: Haahaa ... What'd you say!? Then you ... stuffed a hundred shadows from victims into Luffy!?
Lola: That's right! Crew of the Star of Hope!
Rolling Pirates: [We just gave him a Power Up! His strength increase two, no three time!
The shadows we crammed in him are going to leave! This is putting a strain on your captain's heart, but we completely trust our "Power of Hope!!"]

Luffy: Uoooo! Oryaaaa~~~!
Odz: Gehoh! Guheh! Buhah!
{Luffy grabs a severe hold of Odz's hair.}
Luffy: Hunnu!!

Lola: [Ah, dawn is near! Soon, all over the island, the fate of the victims will be determined!] Rolling Pirate: [We're depending on you, Straw Hat~~! We're going to walk under the sun! We'll be humans again!]

Luffy: Oooo!
Odz: Aaaaa!
{Luffy spins Odz over his head by his hair to throw him.}
Rolling Pirate: Uwaaaaa! Gyaaaa, he destroyed the castle~~~! Hurry, and get away! It'll smash up! Wah! Gyaa!
Nami: This is really amazing!
Usopp: All right! Give it to him, Luffy~~!

Odz: Haa ... damned jerk ... you're so small! Haa ... Gomu Gomu no Bure! (< Okay, either that's a new one or Luffy just interrupted a Gomu Gomu no Bullet.)
{Luffy takes out the sword.}
DOSHU!!
{Odz is cut.}
Odz: Oo ...!
Moria: [Shit! Straw Hat, where'd you get this power ...? Odz! Quit being soft with this ass! It's only some pirate! I'm about to get involved.
Once I get out of this cockpit ... hm!?]
{Luffy's in front of Moria.}
Luffy: Gomu Gomu no! Pistol!!
{He hits Moria square in the face.}
Odz: Oe!
{Luffy prepares for Storm by becoming a balloon.}

Odz: Eat this! Gomu Gomu no! Axe!
{Luffy shoots into the air, rotating into Odz's path.}
Luffy: Gomu Gomu no! Storm!!
{Moria faints.}
DODODODODODODODODODO!
{Odz and Moria get battered with punches.}

Zombies: Waaaaaaaa, Odz is ~~~~!
{Shows Hildon's form.} (< *blinks*)
Zombies: Moria-sama~~~~~!
DODODODODODODODODODO
{Still fiercely continues the attack.}
DON!
Lola: Odz is going to fall! Watch out!
{Odz falls.}
Gashaan! Garagara ... Zuzuu ... n!
Rolling Pirates: Captain Lola! That's ...! Straw Hat is!
{The shadows leave Luffy.}
Luffy: Uu!
Nami: It's true! Shadows!
Usopp: They really did put a bunch of shadows in him! (Okay, something here about Luffy's body ...) Luffy!!
Luffy: Uu, uwa ~~~~ Aaaaa!
{As the shadows leave, Luffy's returns to normal.}
Nami: Luffy!
Usopp: Hey, Luffy, are you okay!?
Lola: Well now, he ... really won.
Rolling Pirates: [He beat Odz and Moria~~!! Everyone's shadow's are returning~~~~! Thank you~~!
Thriller Bark has! Fallen~~~!!]
{Luffy collapses, shows Odz and Moria's faints with a DON! And then the end.}

[Valleyman]

Dude, Nightmare Luffy kicked Oz's and Moria's asses.

That was frickin awesome.

[samnas]

After reading the chapter it was so clear that how Nightmare luffy was playing with Oz, Oz looked like his toy and Luffy was enjoying himself, it was clear who was the dominant one over there ...

[Thistle]

Great chapter, Luffy punching Moria and defeating Oz. He didn't throw him into the ocean so he's not purified yet. Should be possible to put salt into his mouth now, if they can scratch it up from the ground. And is Moria also defeated? We will see.