One Piece 478 Discussion

[weltell]

5 down and 3 to go and still no Luffy.

But they did find a weakness in that the damage he received at the time of his death and Hogback fixed.

[samnas]

Moria continues to be a tricky bastard with some EXTRAORDINARY facial expressions, Sanji looked really great as well with his Diable Jamble ...

Now I am really thinking what can the remaining 3 do, we've got Zoro, Usopp and Nami left ... We have some hope for Zoro, he can do some damage and has been all along, but the list of options is getting less and less ...

Hurry up Nightmare Luffy!!

BTW, how can Oz stretch his body parts, i mean ok Moria is streching his shadow, but that doesn't mean that Oz's body is really that flexible to handle that stretch ...

[Thistle]

It doesn't really matter if his body isn't like Luffy's since Moria is changing reality and Oz' body will adapt to it no matter what. But like Chopper said, Oz doesn't feel any Pain, so perhaps the stretching will take its toll on his body as well.

I was impressed by Sanji deflecting a hit from Oz to protect Robin. It's the power of love :p If this continues, the whole thriller bark will be wrecked.

So it looks like all of Luffy's nakama will be down when he finally arrives. How will he deal with both Oz and Moria then?

[samnas]

Even if he don't feel any pain, there should be limit to how far he can stretch his arm, its not as stretchable as Luffy though, it can also mean that if his left arm is not his own it can fall/break if he keep on stretching it again and again ...

Robin will be sleeping for 3 days now unless Usoop plans on saying that he found Rio Poneglyph and she wakes up in an istant ... and he will say he is a genius ...

[Thistle]

Yep, there should be a limit. Let's hope that Oz is damaging his body even more by stretching it and that it finally starts to show. So far it doesn't look like it.

[weltell]

I wonder if Moria knows that all that stretching could be damaging Oz.

When Luffy gets there I'm hoping that Oz will fall quickly so he can fight Moria.

Has anyone else noticed that the Straw Hats are falling at the reverse order in which they entered the crew. First was Brook then Franky then Robin then Chopper then Sanji.

[DonEmu]

So that means its left with Usopp, Zoro and then Nami if we go in that order.

[steve]

that makes sense, I like that itll likely be on Zoros shoulders to deliver the winning blow.

I see the strawhats taking down oZ

[weltell]

So that means its left with Usopp, Zoro and then Nami if we go in that order.

Zolo was the first Luffy found for his crew just after he beat Morgan.

I think that Luffy will arrive before Zolo goes down because hes almost as powerful as Luffy.

[samnas]

Has anyone else noticed that the Straw Hats are falling at the reverse order in which they entered the crew. First was Brook then Franky then Robin then Chopper then Sanji.
The first one to fall was Franky and then Brook and so on ... You know we are not really sure if Brook wants to join their crew or not ...

I hope the remaining three do take care of Oz and clear the path for Nightmare Luffy vs. Moria ... Luffy can cut his arm but not sure if he can right now, so i am assuming that Usoop and Nami will further damage his arm and Zoro will finish it off with one blow ...

[weltell]

I would be funny to see Morias face after the arm falls off. Zolo and Luffy are probably the only ones able to do enough damage to destroy his arm even if it is weak point.

[samnas]

Well its always funny to see Moria's amazing facial expressions, so i don't mind on that ...

BTW, don't underestimate Nami you can underestimate Usoop i don't care, remember Chopper said that even this big monster was nothing in front of Nature's Force and was frozen to death, Nami can control weather although not that strong but still she can play a big role in this fight if she can ...

[weltell]

That would be different seeing as its always Luffy, Zolo, and Sanji that deal with the strongest opponents.
If Kuma sees Nami defeat Oz I'm sure her bounty would rise significanly.

[samnas]

Well Nami don't necessarily has to defeat Oz all by herself, just try to use his abilities to weaken his right arm and Zoro can give the final blow anytime ...

It would be pretty stupid if Zoro and Sanji failed but Nami defeated Oz all by herself ...

[weltell]

But it would be funny none the less. I definitely hope that Luffy appears this chapter I'm anxious to see what abilities hes gained from the shadows he was given.

[samnas]

Something just came in my mind (yeah sometimes), what if Nightmare Luffy also has the shadow of Zoro and Sanji ... their zombies fell down the building, its quite possible that those guys capture them and remove their shadows also and put them in Luffy ...

This would be ultimate teamwork ...

[weltell]

If that was the case I don't think that Oz would stand any kind of chance against Luffy. Though I doubt it would last for the Moria fight and with his ability to trade place with his shadow Luffy's fight just got a lot harder.

[samnas]

You know i noticed that Moria cannot change his location all at once, it takes him some time to do that, so if Luffy uses gear 2 he can finish it off pretty soon ... But i would like to see Luffy fighing Moria using his own abilities and not other shadows abilities if they are not his crew shadow ...

[weltell]

When he first transported behind Robin there was some lag time but, when Sanji was about to attack him it seemed like it was instant.

[samnas]

Yes because during Robin attacked his shadow was not yet merged together and when it merged he changed his location ... Sanji's kick is not as fast as Luffy's Gear 2, so we can expect some good fight ...

[weltell]

This is true. Though I don't know why Luffy needs these shadows to increse his power. His second and third gears seem to give his enough power judging by what Moria has shown.

[samnas]

Nightmare Luffy is here ... Spoilers:
Originally Posted by Battle Franky at AP:

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Translated by Kanemaki at AP:

Chapter 478 - Luffy vs. Luffy
Front Page - Before Nami starts a race in the woods, there's a frillnecked lizard as the flagman.
Continuing from last week's conversation
There are 3 people left in front of Odz.
Zoro: Usopp!! I'll make an opportunity!!
Zoro uses Yasha Karasu (not sure on this technique's name - Female Demon Crow?) - a sword technique that thrusts while spinning - and makes a hole in Odz's right arm.
However, it seems it doesn't work that well, and Zoro is taken down by Odz's attack.
Usopp uses that chance to pick the salt Brooke gathered and put inside Odz's mouth.
A shadow-like figure comes out, but it's actually Moria's shadow. It picks the salt bag and throws it at Usopp.
Usopp is covered with salt.
Odz: Stamp!!
Odz attacks Usopp with his legs. While at it, he recklessly starts trampling the ground (supposedly where Usopp is).
Luffy: What are trying to trample? Nobody is below your feet!!
In front of Odz is Luffy with a scary face. He's also quite large.
Odz promptly attacks Luffy. His attack is stopped with one hand, then Odz is knocked.
Odz is thrown far away. Then, (Luffy) turns at Odz's back and starts a backdrop.
The End.

[weltell]

Thats a pretty drastic transformation. Its suprising that he could just toss Ozs punch away likes its nothing.
Thanks for posting a spoiler.

[Thistle]

Luffy looks scary but with that size he should be able to handle Oz (hopefully). Looks like the attempt with the salt will fail and time is really running up.
And whom is he holding, Usopp and Sanji? Is Zoro still around at the end of this chapter?

[samnas]

Luffy just transformed into 'The Incredible Hulk', i expected it to be something dark/black colour but he looks kinda cool ... Damn, he just tossed that huge Oz away like he is a baseball for him ... But thank goodness Oz is down, now its time for Luffy vs. Moria ... We still have to more abilities of Luffy with that huge sword on his back ...

BTW, one theory is down, they are not going down in reverse order they joined ... Zoro went down, Usoop and Nami were the last ones standing, i am surprised ...

Looks like there is no need for the salt anymore ...

[weltell]

I ponder where Luffy would find such a massive sword. I also can't wait to see what he gains and if there will be any side effects after the shadows are gone. And if Moria will be able to take the shadows that Luffy has obtained.

[samnas]

Full chapter script ...Originally Posted by Battle Franky at AP:

ｵｰｽﾞ「残り3人」

Odz [3 People left]

ｳｿｯﾌﾟ「どわ～来るぞ～～っ！」

Usopp[DOWA... HERE I COME~~~!]

ﾅﾐ「無理よ！倒せるわけないじゃない！私達3人でこんな怪物！」

Nami

ﾓﾘｱ「ｷｼｼｼｼ！さっさと踏み潰せｵｰｽﾞ！」

Moria [Kishishi! Quickly Odz squash them under you feet]

ｿﾞﾛ「ｳｿｯﾌﾟ！」

Zoro [Usopp!]

ｳｿｯﾌﾟ「ん？」

Usopp [Eh?]

ｿﾞﾛ「おれが隙を作る！」

Zoro [I'll create an opening]

「んあ？なんの？おお！そうか！了解した！

Usopp [Eh, wha? Oooh! I get it! Roger that!]

ｿﾞﾛ「三刀流！夜叉鴉！！」

Zoro [3 Sword Style Yasha Karasu (Lit - Demon/Spirit Girl Crow)]

回転してｵｰｽﾞの右腕に攻撃

The attack spirals towards Odz' right arm!

ｵｰｽﾞ「んん？うお！」

Odz [Mm? Oh!]

ﾅﾐ「わ！やった！効いた？」

Nami [Wa! Yeah! Did it work?]

また右腕か！何度も何度も、効かねぇって言ってんのに、このやろうが

Odz [My right arm again! Over & over, I keep tellin' ya it isn't effective at all, you can't hurt me]

ｿﾞﾛ「虎狩り！！

Zoro [ Tora Kari (Lit. Tiger Hunting!!)]

ｵｰｽﾞの膝蹴りがｿﾞﾛ直撃

Odz lands a direct hit Zoro with his knee.

ﾅﾐ「ｿﾞﾛーー！」

Nami [Zoro]


ｳｿｯﾌ [ﾟ「おい!こっち向けｵｰｽﾞ!」

Usopp [Oi! Odz take this ]

バクン!ｵｰｽﾞ塩食う

Gulp! Odz eats the salt

ｵｰｽﾞ「…?なんか口に入った…」

Odz [..? Something went in my mouth]

ｳｿｯﾌﾟ「ハァ…ハァ」

Usopp [Ha..... Ha.....]

ﾅﾐ「何?今の…ｳｿｯﾌﾟ!」

Nami [What? What Was that... Usopp]

ｳｿｯﾌﾟ[「や…やった!塩食わせてやったぞ~~!」

Usopp [Ye... Yeah! I finally got the salt in him]

ﾅﾐ「塩?塩がどうしたの?」

Nami [Salt? What did you do with the salt?]

ｳｿｯﾌﾟ「そうか、お前知らねぇのか。塩はｿﾞﾝﾋﾞの弱点なんだぞ!見ろ!ｵｰｽﾞはもう 終わりだ!

Usopp [Really, you didn't know, uh. The salt is the zombie's weak point! See! Odz is finished now]

ﾙﾌｨの影が出て来る

Moria's shadow emerges.

ｵｰｽﾞ「お…」ズズズ、影がちょっと出て来る

Odz [Uh...] Zuzuzu - His shadow appears for a very brief moment

ｳｿｯﾌﾟ「浄化しやがれ怪物ｿﾞﾝﾋﾞ!!」

Usopp [Purification is at hand you Monster Zombie]

ｵｰｽﾞ「オオオ」

Odz [OOOOH!]

ｳｿｯﾌﾟ「ん?」

Usopp [Eh?]

ドン!ﾓﾘｱの影が塩持ってｵｰｽﾞの口から出て来る

DON! More salt is poured into Odz' mouth, Moria's shadow comes out fully.

Usopp [...the hell? Why did Moria's shadow come out?]

ﾓﾘｱの影が塩を投げる

Moria's shadow tosses the salt back.

ﾓﾘｱ「ｷｼｼｼｼ!体内からｶﾞｰﾄﾞしたんだﾊﾞｰｶ」

Moria [Kishishimoto! I guarded the interior of his stomach from the inside]

ﾊﾞｽﾝ!塩がｳｿｯﾌﾟにぶつかる

Bashun! Usopp is covered in salt.

ﾓﾘｱ「落とし物だぜ!長っ鼻」

Moria [I'm returning your lost property! Long nose]

ｳｿｯﾌﾟ「ぶへ!うわ!塩が!ﾌﾞﾙｯｸが集めてきた最後の塩がっ! 畜生!畜生!あの野郎バカしやがって!

Usopp [Damn! Uwa! That was last of the salt that Brook collected! Crap! Crap! Damn that annoying guy!]

ﾘｱ「ｷｼｼｼｼ!ぬか喜びして、めでてぇヤローだぜ!弱点とわかってるものに対策もうたずに いると思っ たか!」

Moria [Kishishishi! You celebrated too early [I](something something - unsure) Do you really think I'd let you exploit a weak point so easily, without having a counter measure of my own, eh?]

ｳｿｯﾌﾟ「くそぉ!」

Usopp [Shit!]

ｵｰｽﾞ「スターーンプ!」

Odz [Sta~~~mp!]

ｳｿｯﾌﾟ「うわぁ~~!」

Usopp [Eek~~!]

ﾅﾐ「ｳｿｯﾌﾟー!」

Usopp [Usopp~!]

まだまだ踏んでやれ

Moria [Keep on stepping on him]

ﾅﾐ「やめてー!やめてよ!」

Nami [Stop it! Stop it Please!]

ｷｼｼｼｼ!粉々にしちまえ!そこの女もだ!

Moria [Kishishi! Flatten that woman too]

ﾅﾐ「きゃあ!」

Nami [Kya~~!]

ﾓﾘｱ「潰せ潰せ!どいつもこいつも潰せ潰せぇ!ｷｼｼｼｼ倒れてる奴らも全員少しずつ息があ るぜ!?
人の形すら残してやるな!」

Moria [Kill'em! Kill'em! Get all of them, Kill Kill! Kishishishi don't even let the ones that are already struggling to breathe, live! Flatten'em until their bodies are unrecognizable]

???「おい!ﾃﾞｹｪの!お前は一体何を踏み潰しるんだ?」

??? [Oi! You There! What are you suppose to be trampling on?]

ｵｰｽﾞ「!?」

Odz [!?]

??? [No one's under you feet]

ｵｰｽﾞ「誰だお前」

Odz [Who are you?]

ﾅﾐ「助かった…」

Nami [We're saved...]

ｳｿｯﾌﾟ「どなたか存じませんが危ねぇ所…」

Usopp [This place is becoming too dangerous]

ﾙﾌｨ「ﾓﾝｷｰ！D！ﾙﾌｨだぜ！」

Luffy [I'm Monkey D Luffy!]

ﾙ、ﾙﾌｨーーー？
ど、どこがーー！似てるっちゃ似てる気もするが…本当なのか？お前なのか？」

Nami/Usopp [Eh?.. Lu... LUFFY! Is.. that you? He looks sorta similar, and bears a resembelance to him, but is it really you]

ﾙﾌｨ「本当におれだぜ！

Luffy [Yeh, it's me]

ｳｿｯﾌﾟ「いや、その喋り方も…何があったんだよ！」

Usopp [Eh, your voice is kinda different! Just what happened to you ]

ﾓﾘｱ「…あいつ変身能力もあったのか！？それとも…」

Moria [..that guy has the ability to change his body shape? or is it... ]

ﾙﾌｨ「みんなやられたのか…」

Luffy [Did everyone lose...]

ｳｿｯﾌﾟ「ああ、おれ達以外はみんなあの怪物ｿﾞﾝﾋﾞにやられた！」

Usopp [Yeh, everyone lost to that monster beside us]

ﾓﾘｱ「ふん！構わねぇ潰せ！」

Moria [Mm! Stamp him too I don't care]

Odz [Certainly... GOMU~GUMU~NO]

来た！危ねぇぞ　わかんてんだろうがアレがお前の影の入ったｿﾞﾝﾋﾞだ、ﾙﾌｨ！
さらに体もｺﾞﾑみてぇにのびてお前の技を使って来る！

Usopp [Hey! It's dangerous! Remember that zombies also as you shadow, Luffy! He can also stretch his body like yours]

ｵｰｽﾞ「回転弾！！」

Gomu Gomu no Rifle

ｳｿｯﾌﾟﾅﾐ「うわ！」避ける

NamiUsopp [uwa!] It misses

ドンッ！ピタリ…！ﾙﾌｨが片手で受け止める

DON! Luffy stops Odz' fist

ｵｰｽﾞﾓﾘｱﾅﾐｳｿｯﾌﾟ驚く

OdzMoriaNamiUsopp are all shocked

ﾙﾌｨ「ﾙﾌｨはおれ一人だぜ！」

Luffy [I'm the number.1 Luffy round here]


ギュオ！ドッ！ ﾙﾌｨｵｰｽﾞの顔ぶん殴る

GYOU! DON! Luffy punches Odz in the face

ｳｿｯﾌﾟﾅﾐ「うわぁぁぁあ！」

Nami Usopp [Oh waaa!]

ゴォン！ｵｰｽﾞ吹っ飛ぶ

Odz is blown away!

ｿﾞﾝﾋﾞ共「何か飛んでくるぞ　何だありゃ　雨雲かなんかじゃねぇか？　でっけぇ鳥かな？ え～～～～！？ｵｰｽﾞだぁーーー！！

Random Zombie [What that's flying over there? Is it a huge raincloud? A huge bird? EH~~~~~~? IT'S ODZ~~~!!]

ズズゥゥ…ン！ｵｰｽﾞ倒れる

zUZUZU...! Odz crashes!

ｿﾞﾝﾋﾞ共「うわぁぁあ！何が起きてんだぁーー！」

Random Zombie [Oh Waaa! What the f*ck happened?]

ｵｰｽﾞ「ゲフ！」

Odz [Ugh!]

ギュン！高速で移動　ｵｰｽﾞの背中掴む

Gyun! Luffy moves fast and grabs the back of Odz]

ｵｰｽﾞ「…ぉ」

Odz [..oo!]

ﾙﾌｨ「ぬぅ～～～！おお！りゃぁぁぁあ！」

Luffy [nu~~~~! oo~ri~yaaaaa!]


ｵｰｽﾞ「ぐがぁぁ！」

Odz [Guuuu]

ﾙﾌｨｵｰｽﾞをﾊﾞｯｸﾄﾞﾛｯﾌﾟ

Luffy gives Odz a huge back breaker

ﾅﾐｳｿｯﾌﾟ目をごしごしして呆然

NamiUsopp eyes pop out in awe!

FIN

[Thistle]

Thanks! But is Oz really defeated? That would be pretty quick, too quick in my opinion. Surely nightmare Luffy is strong, but Oz has already shown what he can take.

[samnas]

Surely Oz cannot be defeated like this, he is a zombie, the only way to defeat him is to put some salt in his mouth or a better way would be that if Luffy throws him in sea water ...

But Luffy has to do this soon because the final fight is between Moria and Luffy ... and he still has few mins to go ...

[Thistle]

Surely Oz cannot be defeated like this, he is a zombie, the only way to defeat him is to put some salt in his mouth or a better way would be that if Luffy throws him in sea water ...

That's what i thought, why not throw him into the water? If the amount of salt in the water would be sufficient to do the job.

So let's hope that those 100 shadows gave Luffy abilities useful to catch Moria, muscles alone won't help.

[samnas]

I am not sure if Luffy know that salt can purify the zombies, if not then Usoop or Nami should tell him soon ...

I am just thinking that if Luffy used Gear 2 or 3 in this form what will happen ...

[Thistle]

Thriller bark is already wrecked (not that i didn't expect that to happen :D) so it wouldn't really matter if he went Gear 3, but if his stomach is empty he won't use Gear 2.

[samnas]

Well thriller bark is going to be destroyed soon, i can see that happening, and this will increase Luffy and his crew's bounty ...

He can use Gear 2 for once in this condition and finish off Moria then he can have all the meat he want ... he did use Geat 2, 2 to 3 times in a row when fighting Lucci, so he can do it ...

[Valleyman]

Nightmare Luffy is here ... Spoilers:
Originally Posted by Battle Franky at AP:

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Translated by Kanemaki at AP:

Chapter 478 - Luffy vs. Luffy
Front Page - Before Nami starts a race in the woods, there's a frillnecked lizard as the flagman.
Continuing from last week's conversation
There are 3 people left in front of Odz.
Zoro: Usopp!! I'll make an opportunity!!
Zoro uses Yasha Karasu (not sure on this technique's name - Female Demon Crow?) - a sword technique that thrusts while spinning - and makes a hole in Odz's right arm.
However, it seems it doesn't work that well, and Zoro is taken down by Odz's attack.
Usopp uses that chance to pick the salt Brooke gathered and put inside Odz's mouth.
A shadow-like figure comes out, but it's actually Moria's shadow. It picks the salt bag and throws it at Usopp.
Usopp is covered with salt.
Odz: Stamp!!
Odz attacks Usopp with his legs. While at it, he recklessly starts trampling the ground (supposedly where Usopp is).
Luffy: What are trying to trample? Nobody is below your feet!!
In front of Odz is Luffy with a scary face. He's also quite large.
Odz promptly attacks Luffy. His attack is stopped with one hand, then Odz is knocked.
Odz is thrown far away. Then, (Luffy) turns at Odz's back and starts a backdrop.
The End.

Wow, Luffy looks friggin awesome like that xD. Yeah I can see thriller bark going down soon and an increase in their bounties too. I wonder if Brook has a bounty.

[Thistle]

He can use Gear 2 for once in this condition and finish off Moria then he can have all the meat he want ... he did use Geat 2, 2 to 3 times in a row when fighting Lucci, so he can do it ...

Oopsie, you are right of course. The accelerated speed of Gear 2 is probably the best choice against Moria, and isn't he unable to stretch when using Gear 3? But let's see which abilities he gained from those 100 shadows other than turning into a Hulk. Perhaps we will see some swordsmanship from him.

[samnas]

Spoiler pics:

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[weltell]

It would be great to see Luffy using a sword. I don't think he'll use his gear abilities until the effect of the shadows has worn off.

[samnas]

Look up in the sky ...

Is it a bird or a plane ? ...


No! it's Oz !!!!!!!




Excellent !!!

[Valleyman]

Rofl, Luffy really is awesome. He never ceases to amaze me, arc after arc. I can see Thriller bark getting destroyed, as well as Moria getting owned.

[samnas]

I really liked that spread where Luffy stops Oz's punch in a style with just one hand and shoots him off the ground ... Its the end for Oz as Luffy clearly said that there is only one Luffy and that's me ...

I am sure Luffy will cut off Oz's arm with his huge sword after nami or Usoop tells him about it ...