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samnas
08-23-2007, 10:23 AM
RAW is out, get it here: [Anime] Naruto Shippuuden 26 (http://forum.narutochaos.com/showthread.php?t=12978)

I thought i should take a sneak peak at the RAW to see how it is, but i couldn't hold myself back and saw the whole episode, dammit naruto, why are you so good http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t6/essamnasir/My%20simileys/crying.gif ... This episode is made of pure win, and its for those who actually complain about the animation and pacing ...

Again, one of the best Shippuuden Episode so far ...

papfles
08-23-2007, 10:28 AM
This episode is made of pure win, and its for those who actually complain about the animation and pacing ...

Again, one of the best Shippuuden Episode so far ...

Agreed, very much so! I LOVED this episode.

We can't talk about any episode-related things yet, can we?

LuCas
08-23-2007, 10:34 AM
Holy shit you serious, haha can't wait to see this !
The episode comments just keep getting better every week!
edit: How many manga chapters is this one btw?

samnas
08-23-2007, 10:37 AM
Agreed, very much so! I LOVED this episode.

We can't talk about any episode-related things yet, can we?
Same here, I LOVE naruto or to say this episode ...

We can talk about the episode but we have to use spoiler tags until the subs come out ... like this:
I liked the fight between between 10 puppets of chiyo and sakura vs. 100 puppets or sasori. It was animated so well that i saw it too times ...
BTW, i just compared it with the manga, this episode contains more than 2 chapters ...

snakeeys
08-23-2007, 10:43 AM
BTW, i just compared it with the manga, this episode contains more than 2 chapters ...


Sounds great! It was about time. And as you say animation and everything are great too.... I will try to hold my breath until the translation come out so i can enjoy the full experience^^

papfles
08-23-2007, 10:56 AM
I agree, the teamwork from those puppets was AWESOME :D one of my new favourite scenes is when sakura is running and she gets backup from two puppets, one on each side. That looked too cool. But maybe it was me, but the animation didn't seem as "shiny" as before, more like the naruto part one, or was that just because of the lousy RAW?

samnas
08-23-2007, 11:00 AM
I agree, the whole fight was just superb and was the best in shippuuden so far and actually my best part was when saori's puppet was going to beat sakura and chiyo's puppet saved her ... We actually did saw a "shiny" animation in shippuuden, if you remember i said that one episode has a movie quality animation ... Well in naruto part one also they didn't have many episodes with those "shiny" animation ...

papfles
08-23-2007, 11:03 AM
I know, the entire animation of shippuuden had that "shiny" thing, but this episode didn't seem to have that. It was as if they went back to naruto part 1-drawing, which wasn't bad actually. I often felt that the "shiny" animation seemed a bit fake. I wonder who is going to hate this episode? :p

samnas
08-23-2007, 11:06 AM
Ah, i forgot on more scene which i really liked, when sakura throwed that orb at sasori, just wow ... I watched the streaming version so i can't say much but i will say more on animation when i get the subbed version ... no one is gonna say anything to this episode, i can assure you that ...

LuCas
08-23-2007, 11:46 AM
Ok just watched the raw because I couldn't control myself.
WOW! Truly the best shippuuden episode so far. This is probably better than the 3rd hokage fight! (Maybe, I dont know, it was just too good!)
and I am pretty hard on episodes, I am so happy about this episode.

NNT is in for a big surprise :D
That was some crazy ass animation, I love this episode !
Ill wait till subs, I can't even understand what sakura and everyone was saying anyway so I can't really discuss yet.

samnas
08-23-2007, 12:02 PM
NNT is in for a big surprise :D
We have to probably hold down NNT, Hiyo and Steve cause they ain't gonna hold down once they saw this episode ...

papfles
08-23-2007, 12:16 PM
Hiyo and Steve never were the "beat down on an episode"-type of posters, were they?

NNT does indeed go a bit further in that IMO.

NarutoNineTails
08-23-2007, 12:28 PM
Oh man can't wait for the sub with all this hoopla. Thanks for using the spoiler tags (Samnas and Papfles).

samnas
08-23-2007, 12:32 PM
I am ready to hold you down NNT ... just don't worry you are free to fall ...

papfles
08-23-2007, 01:18 PM
Thanks for using the spoiler tags (Samnas and Papfles).

No problem ^^ That's what was asked, so that's what we use ;)

ACPRO
08-23-2007, 03:27 PM
well this is something lto look forward to, i guess theyll do this with all the akatsuki fights which is great. Im not sure if sasori dies or not since i didnt watch this episode. However maybe theyll only show good animation when an akutsuki member is about to die?

minimal
08-23-2007, 05:37 PM
Damn that was one hell of an episode, best so far in the shippuuden series. I am rather excited if this is how far they have come quality in just 26 episodes.

NarutoNineTails
08-23-2007, 06:19 PM
And I only "beat down" episodes when there's a reason for it. I would say I liked about half of shippuuden. But if an episode is not to my liking I'll definitely get that point across. ;)

steve
08-23-2007, 06:46 PM
We have to probably hold down NNT, Hiyo and Steve cause they ain't gonna hold down once they saw this episode ...


haha you wont haveto hold anyone down
altho I would like to point out that I post a pros and cons section. I praise and criticize with as equal as possible tenacity. Just so happens that shuppiden hasnt had a wealth of good episodes.

LuCas
08-23-2007, 07:30 PM
Oh just you wait till the sub comes out in about an hour or two.
You will sound like so-so right now, but I bet ya after your gonna be jumping up and down.
edit: Seems the sub is out. FUCK YEH!

mohamoud15
08-23-2007, 07:39 PM
Sub out now. I hope you guess are right becuase i was going to watch this friday since I have a lot of homework so let me take time off to watch it.

Fire_Fist
08-23-2007, 07:49 PM
i'm starting to hate Sakura we wana see Naruto's new sexy move :)

nah just kidding i'll never hate her she kick @$$

steve
08-23-2007, 08:10 PM
this episode sucked.



haha

probably the best shuppiden yet. still early, save the pros cons for way later on

kaeden
08-23-2007, 09:00 PM
I'm in love with Sakura now ^_^
She's a total bad ass chic!

Did you see how excited Kakashi was to see Naruto's new sexy technique? LMAO He did a lil fist pump before Sakura served up a knuckle sandwich

Fabian_89
08-23-2007, 09:22 PM
i didnt read the thread this far cause i dont have any time atm... but...

this ep was simply awesome! No time was wasted. One "wow!" effect after another.

Was it like 2chapter or somethin? ôO

cant get enough of naruto :D

Toxic Anarch
08-23-2007, 09:23 PM
I don't come in here that often, at all....but this was definitly the best shippuden episode aired yet...I have hope for another future battle now. The animation team can really do some very impressive stuff.

Ok I don't know what i'm saying, i'm no steve, BUT THIS EPISODE WAS AMAZING!!:clapover:

1hunglow
08-23-2007, 09:50 PM
All I can say is wow! That was an amazing episode the music the fight scenes :fencing: I can tell that they really sat down and planned this episode thoroughly. Best Shippuden episode by far and hopefully it just keeps getting better

Hellchild915
08-23-2007, 10:20 PM
That was probably the best ep i have seen in a long time, I just hope we have many more like this one

FbiHitman
08-23-2007, 10:56 PM
I guess the heard our complaining and decided lets do this fight right. Seems as in the preview they get Sasori with his own poison directly to i think is the heart. Ohh man, cant wait for next episode to come out. Looks like it might be the end for all of them due to the poison.

Fire_Fist
08-23-2007, 11:05 PM
I guess the heard our complaining and decided lets do this fight right. Seems as in the preview they get Sasori with his own poison directly to i think is the heart. Ohh man, cant wait for next episode to come out. Looks like it might be the end for all of them due to the poison.

they still have 1 antidote and the poison take's 3 days to kill so if Sakura take it she can make another for the old lady, and Sasori is toast even if he have 1 he has 2 blades in the heart

Mako
08-23-2007, 11:27 PM
Lmao, the ape-like puppet with the taijutsu move was awesome. Also..the bald puppet with the cable dreadlocks...Great stuff! *tear*

insarty
08-23-2007, 11:43 PM
now that's what I call a quality episode.. I hope they can keep that up
9.5/10

Suigetsu
08-24-2007, 12:09 AM
best episode i've seen in a while

Hiyo
08-24-2007, 12:13 AM
That was by far the best episode in the series. Awesome action and animation. Sasori/Sakura were both very bad ass. The puppets were awesome. Wicked fight and ending. I really wish they could stick to quality like this. It's the end of a season though so hopefully that's not the reason for a good show.

KageNaruto
08-24-2007, 12:15 AM
Wow, if most of the episodes of Shippuden we're 2/3s this good, I wouldn't be dissapointed with the series.

I am really hoping this episode sets the bar for the rest...

It was great. Like everybody said, best episode so far. This almost reminds me of the first arc. Bad animation until it got to Zabuza killing all those renegades and Naruto in Kyuubi mode. Same here.

aldaron
08-24-2007, 01:15 AM
Great episode, but can someone explain the semantics behind the antidote?

I thought they HAD to win the battle in the 3 minute time limit, but Sakura continued seemingly unhindered even afterwards.

I was a bit confused there.

Still, this was great.

letsrock0303
08-24-2007, 01:45 AM
Oh what an amazing episode. That female puppet with the two swords was awesome :thumb: . I think Shippuden is turning out to be an awesome series can't wait to see where it goes!

tdeep29
08-24-2007, 01:45 AM
What Sakura meant was the antidote would nullify any more poison they received over a 3 minute period. Meaning if they took an attack after the 3 minute time the they would need more antidote or that would be all she wrote.

btw welcome to the forums letsrock0303

mandelak
08-24-2007, 01:49 AM
this episode was awesome. best shippuden episode yet

LuCas
08-24-2007, 01:50 AM
Gotta love the sakura parts, she getting cooler and cooler.
This episode had a good cliffhanger too.
Geez, I think I almost nearly cried watching this.
I need to calm down..

Kratos
08-24-2007, 02:06 AM
Great episode, but can someone explain the semantics behind the antidote?

I thought they HAD to win the battle in the 3 minute time limit, but Sakura continued seemingly unhindered even afterwards.

I was a bit confused there.

Still, this was great.

The antidote neutralizes the poison and makes it harmless. The effects of the antidote last for three minutes. This means they have a three minute window in which they don't have to worry about getting poisoned.

This episode was fucking awesome. The best episode of Shippuuden so far. At first I didn't know how Chiyo and Sakura could defeat all those puppets. Next thing I know, they're pwning puppets left and right. One of my favorite scenes was when Sasori rose up from the ground in that different puppet.

http://img166.imageshack.us/img166/3742/vlcsnap1200515bn7.jpg

letsrock0303
08-24-2007, 02:10 AM
Thanks tdeep quick question did I read that this is the end of the season? If so when is it coming back (sorry not familiar woth the television scheduling in Japan)? Thanks a million

nitestalker666
08-24-2007, 02:10 AM
Well not much I can say that hasn't already been said. That episode was freakin awesome!! Great fight scene. I can't wait for the Naruto/Kakashi vs Deidara fight. From the preview of next week's it would appear that Sasori won't be around for much longer. I saw 2 swords in that cylinder thing, which I'm guessing is what keeps him alive. Although, they'll probably show another flashback after he gets it before they move on to the other fight. But I hope this is a sign that the episodes will start getting much better.

LuCas
08-24-2007, 02:12 AM
Well not much I can say that hasn't already been said. That episode was freakin awesome!! Great fight scene. I can't wait for the Naruto/Kakashi vs Deidara fight. From the preview of next week's it would appear that Sasori won't be around for much longer. I saw 2 swords in that cylinder thing, which I'm guessing is what keeps him alive. Although, they'll probably show another flashback after he gets it before they move on to the other fight. But I hope this is a sign that the episodes will start getting much better.

Now that you mentioned it, I think that little 'scorpion' cylinder thing on his stomach was his source of chakra/brain/etc, it makes much sense now since he always brings that with him and the scenes always show that (with blood).
I think his heart is in that thing..

Kratos
08-24-2007, 02:37 AM
Thanks tdeep quick question did I read that this is the end of the season? If so when is it coming back (sorry not familiar woth the television scheduling in Japan)? Thanks a million

Naruto will be back next week.

purifier
08-24-2007, 03:10 AM
Best episode to date. Was it just me, or was Sakura uber-sexy when she was stumbling back to grandma Chiyo at about 7:50?

Genius
08-24-2007, 04:06 AM
yea the animation was just surpreme, all you guys who complain about it will shut up now

Pilsner
08-24-2007, 07:56 AM
Man my heart was pumping for most of the episode. I agree with everyone... This is by far the best. I am looking forward to the future battles now even more now. Sakura is uber hot now.

I also loved the part at the very end when Sakura launches Naruto for a new record. Very funny.

Uchiha_Blaze
08-24-2007, 09:18 AM
Oh man cant wait, it seems that Shippuden is finaly getting good ! Im so happy yey !, Now to dl and watch the ep on my new 19inch wide-screan monitor !

Recoom
08-24-2007, 10:41 AM
2nd best episode so far. (The first episode with sasuke probably had more production quality)

Best fight seen yet.

Sakura launching Naruto = Nanaca Crash!

http://www.albinoblacksheep.com/flash/nanaca

Uchiha_Blaze
08-24-2007, 11:18 AM
Oh my god @ this episode, this episode was just soo just soooo awesome omg the animation was just AMAZING as the pace..everything was just super special awesome ! I hope every ep from now on will have the pace and the animation qualities of episode 26....

NMK
08-24-2007, 11:35 AM
Holy crap.. Like others have said, this is by far one of the best Shippuuden episodes so far.. Well, the beginning of episode one, with the preview with Sasuke might have been slightly better. I guess Sasori can live and change bodies as long as his "heart/cylinder" comes with him.

Now to check if Steve has made a pros/cons list..

Edit: Now is the time to post a pros/cons list Steve!

Sasukemania
08-24-2007, 11:40 AM
This episode was actually fast...it didn't had those annoying pauses between each move...very nice, hope to continue with this speed, the manga is way ahead anyway. And animation was very nice too. Sakura obviously didn't die from the attack, we saw her in the next episode preview, but anyway both Sakura and Chiyo are now affected by poison....i think. That guy Sasori don't even have a human heart? He looks like he's 98% puppet.

samnas
08-24-2007, 11:42 AM
Now to check if Steve has made a pros/cons list..

Edit: Now is the time to post a pros/cons list Steve!
I think he is still trying and re-watching to find some cons for this episode :biggrin1: ...

LuCas
08-24-2007, 11:48 AM
Yeah its pointless to find cons for this episode, it is just too good ;D

thebolivian
08-24-2007, 11:50 AM
i just saw this epi, my reaction is that it is so SICK no way there gonna be any cons except that it ended to soon

Odiee
08-24-2007, 11:59 AM
Holy crap, this was like the best fight in shipuuden so far :fencing:. I red that manga episode but i never expected to be this good.
Pros: ALL (event the new record in the end :banana:)
Cons: what cons?

NarutoNineTails
08-24-2007, 12:12 PM
THIS is what I'm talking about!!! This episode could rank with ANY of the best episodes in Naruto.

SAKURA IS AWESOME. I never thought I would say this but she pwns now! Oh man where am I going to put her in terms of rankings. I'm creating a new thread on where Saukra ranks in terms of her classmates now.

This episode almost makes up for the overall disappointing shippuuden so far. If they can end the season in a bang like this (about 3 or 4 more episodes like this in a row) I think I can forgive the earlier disappointments.

Edit:
I've been waiting for so long for such an episode....T_T

Lorden Darkblade
08-24-2007, 12:46 PM
This episode was indeed awesome!!!!
One of the best Shippuuden episodes, the fight was perfect and it got me all hyped up!
A perfect cliff-hanger too!!!
Can't wait to see what really happens now!!!!

ACPRO
08-24-2007, 02:54 PM
lol... who would have guessed that one of the best fight scenes in naruto would be with sakura. I thought she was a dumb pinkheaded hoe.

steve
08-24-2007, 03:22 PM
Well then!

Pros:
- I know I probably don't need to point this out but, by far the best animation in a shuppiden episode so far. Really really nice, it wasn't quite hyper animated(see episode 133-where they bring in the specialized team for one ep), but it was almost better then that. Really fluid, everything was bright and easy to see. Really loved it.
- Kindof goes with the animation but, the pace was killer good. They easily could've drawn this episode out into 2-3 episodes and made us all hate our lives but instead they just stepped up to the plate and put it together like they knew they could.
- Music was awesome.
- Sakura is now, officially, badass. She is awesome. She still has the bleeding heart of before but now has the willpower to follow that up. I mean, she, with the assistance of one of the Sand's strongest nin(Chiyo) is fighting one of Atsk evenly. I mean, this is a complete black and white sort of thing. She used to be afraid of fighting ANYONE in ANY situation, I mean, she could barely get herself together against Ino. Look at her now, no hesitation, good hand to hand, awesome strength, and of course, awesome brain on her shoulders. Kishimoto has finally decided to let us start to like Sakura. Well played.
- Sasori is a really really badass enemy. The spinning blades, the chord w/ pike on end. Putting his body back together and spinning his head = reminiscent of the exorcist.
- Chiyo's ultimate 10 fingers-10 puppets technique. Loved it. My favorite of the puppets was probably the one that saved Sakura, the one that seems to specialize in hand to hand. However, they were all awesome, and combined with the wicked animation, that fight sequence was one of the best in Naruto anime to date, I would argue. It was about time Chiyo did something REALLY useful as opposed to just being the voice of experience while Sakura gets her shit slammed around fighting the Sand's Third Hokage.
- no team Gai fight!!!!
- Kakashi is getting ready, next ep hopefully we will see the end of Sakura/Chiyo'/Sasori and the beginning of whatever Kakashi/Dei/Naruto have in store.
- Again, really well put together episode. One of the best ever, defiantly the best shuppiden. Hopefully they dont drop the ball next ep.
- Giant Tigers head was cool. loved that thing.
- Sasori 'dies' twice in the episode. The first time was sortof "theres no way its over..." and the second time was pretty convincing. That was a good play by Kishimoto, get our hopes up a couple times then end it by having Sakura get impaled.

Cons:
- While the music was good, I still find myself wanting a more diverse soundtrack.
- Only 22 minutes.
- Episodes like this create negative juxtaposition with the surplus of shitty episodes. It's unreasonable to expect this sort of animation and pacing every week, but its reasonable to expect the the scale to be a little closer. Shouldn't be such a clear difference in eps.
* These complaints are really scraping the bottom of the barrel, this ep rocked.

General Thoughts:
- Cliffhanger and a half? Sakura took the blade meant for Chiyo, however, Chiyo was just recently cut by one of the puppets. This means, one antidote, two injuries, one of the injuries is pretty critical already(sword through Sakura).
- The last two episodes have been put together nicely(altho the last one made 3 minutes last 22 minutes) so I am wondering if this is really a turn towards consistency and kick-ass-a-tude. All those people that have been saying "Shuppiden will get better with time" may have been right.
- How can next ep follow something this awesome? We will see!.

Screen of Week
Sakura gets railed.
http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e177/fritzer7/vlcsnap-7341838.png

spacecadet319
08-24-2007, 04:36 PM
amazin episode, dunno y da color was a bit diff.

Kratos
08-24-2007, 05:08 PM
THIS is what I'm talking about!!! This episode could rank with ANY of the best episodes in Naruto.

SAKURA IS AWESOME. I never thought I would say this but she pwns now! Oh man where am I going to put her in terms of rankings. I'm creating a new thread on where Saukra ranks in terms of her classmates now.

This episode almost makes up for the overall disappointing shippuuden so far. If they can end the season in a bang like this (about 3 or 4 more episodes like this in a row) I think I can forgive the earlier disappointments.

Edit:
I've been waiting for so long for such an episode....T_T

If NNT says it's good, you know it's good.

NarutoNineTails
08-24-2007, 05:48 PM
Yup, it definitely gets my seal of approval. Thumbs up~

papfles
08-24-2007, 05:57 PM
Nooo steve, the best picture of the episode is the two puppets flanking Sakura as she made her run towards Sasori!!

staserman
08-24-2007, 06:12 PM
i agree with everyone that this ep was great !!!

i just wanted to add that they hired Norio Matsumoto(made some of the scenes of the fight between N vs S) do the fighting animation, so thats why it was great :banana:

V.VELDANEN
08-24-2007, 06:21 PM
*Orgasm*

BEst episode till date, I've never found myself cheering so much for an episode...except when Kakashi pulled his red herring techniques.

Its just so cool how Sasori describe their puppets to be able to take over a nation. I guess he underestimated the effectiveness of a small, dynamic squad instead of just numbers.

Needless to say, Chiyo would've been much more hotter in her earlier years. Heheh.

Anyhoo, the main attraction for this episode is the chance to witness the diverse characters drawn into the different types of puppets. Kishimoto is simply a genius.

Wow factor indeed.
10/10

xxdyntaexx
08-24-2007, 07:30 PM
ok... first of all. i want to apologise for any swearing in what is stated below.

FUckinnn hell this episode pwns all!! the only thing i can compare to this.. was probably rock lee vs Kimiaro!!

i mean come on, it was like samurai champloo!!. sakura was fighting as if she was Gai/rocklee. the granny although she wasnt physically fighting, her movements was smooooooooth!!! sorry but all i can say is... those 100 puppets got murkd!!!

someone stated about the puppets giving sakura backup.. during that seen all i could think about was "were the hood were the hood were the hoood at!!!"

i love the dreadlock puppet also. but i think the best Puppet award..

would have to go to the chick puppet with the 2 swords.. i was like noooo when it finally got sliced.

Best Puppet Award * * * * 2SWORD CHICK * ** * *

Reputator
08-24-2007, 07:40 PM
That may be one of the best episodes in anime period.

Hiyo
08-24-2007, 07:47 PM
Chiyos puppets were really good. In the short time they were on the screen they each had well thought out sequences. Pretty cool stuff. Just imagine if they stuck to 1 chapter. This fight would have sucked big time. God I hope they stick to using 2 chapters. Let the anime catch up again if it must. It's not lke the manga is going to go on forever. Toss in a few smaller arcs from time to time and keep this pace up.

steve
08-24-2007, 08:50 PM
Nooo steve, the best picture of the episode is the two puppets flanking Sakura as she made her run towards Sasori!!

Haha there were so many parts to choose from. I couldve just paused it at any point in the battle and wouldve had a wicked screen.

KageNaruto
08-24-2007, 10:09 PM
That may be one of the best episodes in anime period.

Ehehehe, don't get ahead of yourself there. I wouldn't call it close, but it can be arguably one of the best episodes in Naruto (non-Shipp included).

insarty
08-24-2007, 10:48 PM
new intro next week hopefully

FbiHitman
08-24-2007, 10:52 PM
Loved the 10 puppets.

Did it seem to anyone else that they had personality. Its the first time I have seen this. They were not just weapons but it looked like they had emotion while fighting. I looked really cool.

qwertyu
08-24-2007, 11:07 PM
this episode is the only one that worth watching comparing to the rest of shippu.. the only part that was lame is the 100 puppets, it was more like 1000puppets all thoes kills and the number of puppets still remaining the same, especially the buddist vacum jutsu, that alone should have kill all of sasori's puppets but the number still remaine the same.

FbiHitman
08-24-2007, 11:11 PM
this episode is the only one that worth watching comparing to the rest of shippu.. the only part that was lame is the 100 puppets, it was more like 1000puppets all thoes kills and the number of puppets still remaining the same, especially the buddist vacum jutsu, that alone should have kill all of sasori's puppets but the number still remaine the same.

If you think about it he jammed th hutsu with alot of puppets. Then the jutsu was broke and the puppets trapped with-in could still fight. We saw maybe 70 puppets KIA and the rest fell after the almost getting sasori. I am sure some person is going to watch the episode and count the puppets destroyed soon.

qwertyu
08-24-2007, 11:35 PM
If you think about it he jammed th hutsu with alot of puppets. Then the jutsu was broke and the puppets trapped with-in could still fight. We saw maybe 70 puppets KIA and the rest fell after the almost getting sasori. I am sure some person is going to watch the episode and count the puppets destroyed soon.

trust me all the puppets that were suck in are completely shatters to bits. if u watch it again u will see that one puppet that tried to grab onto the rock from being suck in it was shatters to pieces. there is noway all thoes that were suck in are alive. it like a frigging black hole.

Hiyo
08-24-2007, 11:35 PM
I'm pretty sure the 100 puppets was exaggerated in the air. They may have shown 100 or so dying but they implied a lot more were there. Those two puppets working together to swing one around and crush stuff were taking out a crapload each swing and they were swinging the whole time when they flashed out after a while. Either way.. it was an awesome fight.

qwertyu
08-24-2007, 11:46 PM
looks like the next episode is the end of sasori, i cant believe that sasori would be the first akatsuki member to be kill. i always thought dedaira (spelling?) would be the first.

skuzzel
08-24-2007, 11:53 PM
yea the animation was just surpreme, all you guys who complain about it will shut up now

For the love of God, please think with your brain for a moment. Having great animation in the episode only PROVES that we were right. Go to 1:33 of this episode and watch the flash back. Then skip to the second half of the episode and compare.

We complained that the animation was bad because it was, now that it's good it doesn't make us wrong. It means we can all shout for joy that the guys over at naruto arn't sitting on thier asses any more.
And make no doubt about it, if they start shoveling crap again, or start moving at a one chapter an Eps pace I am going to point it out.

Not that I have a right to, but because I know crap when I see it.

letsrock0303
08-25-2007, 02:14 AM
The animation was phenominal in this ep. But I would still like to say that they are probably still sitting on their asses. It would get tiring to draw all day standing up ;-) just kiddin

Narusukashi
08-25-2007, 02:24 AM
I have to say.. this episode really impressed me. I applaud the animators for not slacking on one of the legendary fights we'll get to see in shippuden.

papfles
08-25-2007, 04:26 AM
Haha there were so many parts to choose from. I couldve just paused it at any point in the battle and wouldve had a wicked screen.

then do so :p I'd like to see that post :p

NMK
08-25-2007, 07:55 AM
Oh, was I the only one who thought that Chiyo had somehow managed to make puppets of all the Akatsuki Members? (Episode 25's preview for 26.) One of them clearly looked like Orochimaru, and one actually looked like Sasori in his first puppet body appearance. Lol <.<

LuCas
08-25-2007, 11:15 AM
Now that is interesting NMK, let me re-watch it.
edit: Haha, I think only the orochimaru and the sasori ones look like it.

juniorcaesar
08-25-2007, 12:30 PM
This is episode is the exact reason I love watching the anime. Maybe it's my just my imagination but it doesn't come off as cool in the manga. I can't "see" a lot of the motions. I thought the fight between Sasori's parents and the puppet Kazekage was awesome but this fight topped even that. Man, Kankurou is a novice compared to these puppet masters. I thought Elder Chiyo's 10 pupppet jutsu was cooler than Sasori's 100 puppet jutsu (quality over quantity). They were puttin it down but against overwhelming odds.

Sakura simply rocks! I can't believe she threw down like that. I really hope we get to see more of her actually fighting. This is the gal we always wanted to see. Great episode!

Stitok
08-25-2007, 05:27 PM
OMFG, uhmm... after 3th review I decide to look it one more time :banana:

Uchiha_Blaze
08-25-2007, 05:38 PM
lol poor Kank, he wouldnt last 2 sec in a Chiyo, Sasori, Kankuro FFA

Stitok
08-25-2007, 06:13 PM
I'm going to build some puppets :biggrin1:

"Did what, Exactly?" - Sasori

next is only for manga readers

If the Orochimaru vs Naruto fight will be just like that, then... (you know what I mean :D)

LuCas
08-25-2007, 11:50 PM
Yeah I loved that line, "Did what, exactly?"
That was so cool, it reminded me of the past fights, I can't remember exactly.

Nick
08-25-2007, 11:54 PM
Though this was a cool episode I kinda felt that the animation stepped down a notch when compared to the last one... I'm beginning to wonder if it's been the animation all this time that's inconsistent and not just the video encoding used the by the source of the RAW.

Hiyo
08-26-2007, 12:07 AM
You mean visually the animation didn't look as crisp or something?
I assume you download DB stuff? The visual quality was identical. If you are talking about the animation sequences you are absolutely nuts. The sequences were amazingly drawn out. Reminds me of the final fight in the Zabuza arc.

KageNaruto
08-26-2007, 12:47 AM
It was a different animation group. One where some detail is taken out to a really small amount to make everything look crisp, super fluid, and awsome. Some people dislike that type of animation, but it would cost so much money to get characters to have great detail and move that fluid that almost no anime gets animation better than that.

NarutoNineTails
08-26-2007, 02:31 AM
trust me all the puppets that were suck in are completely shatters to bits. if u watch it again u will see that one puppet that tried to grab onto the rock from being suck in it was shatters to pieces. there is noway all thoes that were suck in are alive. it like a frigging black hole.

Yeah we saw one puppet holding on getting shattered. That doesn't mean all other puppets were holding onto something. And yes I do believe lot of the puppets that got sucked in and on the outside of the pile would have gotten damaged quite a bit but those that got stuck in the middle probably would have been spared.

But I do also agree that there seemed to be more puppets alive at the end than what should have been but not to the point you made it out to be imo.

LuCas
08-26-2007, 03:10 AM
It was a different animation group.

Where do you people find this information anyway?

steve
08-26-2007, 03:12 AM
Though this was a cool episode I kinda felt that the animation stepped down a notch when compared to the last one... I'm beginning to wonder if it's been the animation all this time that's inconsistent and not just the video encoding used the by the source of the RAW.


huh. I am not understand.

hotnikkelz
08-26-2007, 04:23 AM
Where do you people find this information anyway?

i believe he's right....this animation group are the ones that animate for the movies and apparently they were busy with the 5th installment...so team B as i like to call them were doing the episodes (unfortunately)

You can clearly see a difference in the anime and know it's 2 different teams.

This was by far the best episode i've seen in a while. Rekindled my interest in the anime. Too bad the arc is about to end soon and then it's filler season

Uchiha_Blaze
08-26-2007, 05:05 AM
i believe he's right....this animation group are the ones that animate for the movies and apparently they were busy with the 5th installment...so team B as i like to call them were doing the episodes (unfortunately)

You can clearly see a difference in the anime and know it's 2 different teams.

This was by far the best episode i've seen in a while. Rekindled my interest in the anime. Too bad the arc is about to end soon and then it's filler season

Are you crazy ? Fillers ? They are runing 3.8/4 chap an episode and your thinkin about fillers ?

papfles
08-26-2007, 05:21 AM
They are runing 3.8/4 chap an episode and your thinkin about fillers ?

4 chapters an episode?

KageNaruto
08-26-2007, 05:55 AM
4 chapters an episode?

Umm, did you read that properly?

He said 3.8/4.

That's 1.9/2.

or 0.95 episodes per chapter.

Reputator
08-26-2007, 06:17 AM
Ehehehe, don't get ahead of yourself there. I wouldn't call it close, but it can be arguably one of the best episodes in Naruto (non-Shipp included).You're probably right. How about this: one of the best fight sequences in anime. It didn't have the polish that some of the greats do, great coloring and style, but it was seriously epic.

papfles
08-26-2007, 08:23 AM
Umm, did you read that properly?

He said 3.8/4.

That's 1.9/2.

or 0.95 episodes per chapter.

Ah, I thought he meant 3.8 to 4 chapters :) That's why I inquired for more information ^^


And I must say that I actually loved the parts where it seemed that sakura was a bit in slowmotion, with the etchy-sketchy lines as if it were a bunch of papers flipped really fast.

rkappiyo
08-26-2007, 08:24 AM
Too bad the arc is about to end soon and then it's filler season

... Do you know how far ahead the manga is? It's 94 chapters ahead... In other words, if we went 2 chapters an episode every week starting now, it would still take almost 2 years to catch up (assuming manga doesn't end by then)...

Hiyo
08-26-2007, 04:24 PM
Ya really. Seems like everyone here works at the studio making Naruto. Animators learn to draw... it's not like professional animators are going to be bad at copying cells and make bad versions of the characters. It's more like lack of animators leading to less detail. Likely cause they were working on the Naruto movie and the Bleach movie at the same time.

Fabian_89
08-26-2007, 04:55 PM
Ya really. Seems like everyone here works at the studio making Naruto. Animators learn to draw... it's not like professional animators are going to be bad at copying cells and make bad versions of the characters. It's more like lack of animators leading to less detail. Likely cause they were working on the Naruto movie and the Bleach movie at the same time.

we'll see next episode :P

I'm goin to rewatch the ep now :D cant get eonough of it

may we get to see a new opening this thrusday? does anyone know?

Hiyo
08-26-2007, 05:10 PM
I started rewatching the series for the hell of it a few days ago. The actually detail of the characters and stuff in shippuden is rarely any worse then the old episodes. It's more the transition between the scenes. Too much dragging out and too much content in stuff that doesn't matter instead of jumping around from scene to scene more. Some of the animation stuff in the last episode was right up there with some of the stuff during Haku/Kyuubi-Naruto. But they'll never keep up animating stuff that good when the fighting dies down some. Hopefully they'll atleast add an extra chapter to the episodes now so they can jump around and have twice as many scenes.

hotnikkelz
08-27-2007, 01:09 AM
Regrettably there will be fillers imo. Reason i say this is because if you look at the beginning and ending credits you can clearly see it's a story that doesn't belong so...it's either
1) naruto movie preview
2) filler
I don't think it's uncommon for fillers to show between arcs. I don't want it either, but that's just how it is sometimes

Nebula
08-27-2007, 01:29 AM
LOL the credits are for Naruto Movie 4 that just came out a while ago in japan.

FbiHitman
08-27-2007, 01:49 AM
Still waitin for hinata and naruto reunion.

KageNaruto
08-27-2007, 03:13 AM
I started rewatching the series for the hell of it a few days ago. The actually detail of the characters and stuff in shippuden is rarely any worse then the old episodes. It's more the transition between the scenes. Too much dragging out and too much content in stuff that doesn't matter instead of jumping around from scene to scene more. Some of the animation stuff in the last episode was right up there with some of the stuff during Haku/Kyuubi-Naruto. But they'll never keep up animating stuff that good when the fighting dies down some. Hopefully they'll atleast add an extra chapter to the episodes now so they can jump around and have twice as many scenes.

Rarely any worse. here's the thing, as time progresses animation SHOULD get better. That's probably why people are complaining. Because better animation is possible and should be done but isn't being done (until now, and I doubt it will stay like this). Agree with everything else you said though. One part I just find too funny about the fight is how right after Chiyo says "We only have one antidote left, we can't get hit" she does.

V.VELDANEN
08-27-2007, 04:13 AM
The op/ed pretty much gave away alot about the movie...

Sucks...the girl and naruto looks pretty hot together tho

Fabian_89
08-27-2007, 06:16 AM
Regrettably there will be fillers imo. Reason i say this is because if you look at the beginning and ending credits you can clearly see it's a story that doesn't belong so...it's either
1) naruto movie preview
2) filler
I don't think it's uncommon for fillers to show between arcs. I don't want it either, but that's just how it is sometimes

omg, did you read any posts in this thread?
theres no need for filler... your whole post is just stupid...

btw: the credits are movie previews

rkappiyo
08-27-2007, 07:46 AM
Regrettably there will be fillers imo. Reason i say this is because if you look at the beginning and ending credits you can clearly see it's a story that doesn't belong so...it's either
1) naruto movie preview
2) filler

Oh that's what you meant, you scared me for a second... Anyway, as others have said, it's just the movie preview.

I don't think it's uncommon for fillers to show between arcs. I don't want it either, but that's just how it is sometimes

I agree that it's not uncommon, but when the anime is so far behind the manga, I don't see the point and or need...

LuCas
08-27-2007, 02:24 PM
Wait so, the reason why its barely getting animated well in the earlier episodes is because they are working on the movie instead? Geez, I wish there were never any naruto movies, I don't even watch anime movies! (well actually I tried watching a naruto one but it was pointless since it was kind of a different story with the same characters)

And I still haven't gotten the answer to my question yet, where do you people find this information like "oh the professional 2nd group division of godz came up and animated this episode thats why it was so good, replacing the sucky 10th division novice animators" or whatever

FbiHitman
08-27-2007, 02:40 PM
Wait so, the reason why its barely getting animated well in the earlier episodes is because they are working on the movie instead? Geez, I wish there were never any naruto movies, I don't even watch anime movies! (well actually I tried watching a naruto one but it was pointless since it was kind of a different story with the same characters)

And I still haven't gotten the answer to my question yet, where do you people find this information like "oh the professional 2nd group division of godz came up and animated this episode thats why it was so good, replacing the sucky 10th division novice animators" or whatever

I enjoy watching the movies just for the sake of seeing my fav characters for 1-2 hours strait. It makes me happy :banana:

hotnikkelz
08-27-2007, 04:38 PM
omg, did you read any posts in this thread?
theres no need for filler... your whole post is just stupid...

btw: the credits are movie previews

Stupid because i was wrong? get a life...please

Hiyo
08-27-2007, 05:18 PM
Rarely any worse. here's the thing, as time progresses animation SHOULD get better. That's probably why people are complaining. Because better animation is possible and should be done but isn't being done (until now, and I doubt it will stay like this). Agree with everything else you said though.

Well I mean the base animation for the series isn't that much difference. Sure there are random scenes that are absolutely horrible animated and look like they were tossed in at the last episode to fill time, but overall.... even some of the corny stuff that people say "omg freeze it and look at his face there"... stuff like that was in the earlier parts of the series too. But the pacing was a hell of a lot better but any bad parts were a lot shorter.

I don't really see why the animation should get better though. When Naruto first came out that studio only have a few other short animes they were working on. Now they have Naruto and Bleach (two major animes) and they have been working on movies for both series at the same time. Maybe they need to hire more staff or something with all the money they get from license the series in North America :P

One part I just find too funny about the fight is how right after Chiyo says "We only have one antidote left, we can't get hit" she does.

Hah ya that was kinda dumb. And the antidote wears of on Sakura and she just continues on with all her might regardless of it. I guess it doesnt really matter if they use the antidotes anyways. Once it wears off they are going to be kinda screwed since Sakura is poisoned and shes the one that seems to know how to get rid of it.
From the preview it looks like Chiyo is going to do something major with a seals or something on the ground. Must be some kinda cleansing thing to save Sakura. Then Sakura will be able to remove the poison from Chiyo and save her.

FbiHitman
08-27-2007, 05:58 PM
I think the atidote works as if they are poisoned while the atidote is active they will not be harmed. Due to Sakura being able to fight as if she never were poisoned. They would of been fine if sakura did not get stabbed threw the stomach. But in the preview we see a seal on the ground, it could be to help kill sasori or heal sakura. Alos looks that chiyo has medical nin in here b/c she was doing something to sakura.

Fabian_89
08-27-2007, 05:59 PM
Stupid because i was wrong? get a life...please

nah, stupid because you were not thinkin/readin before posting...

thx for analyzing my life by reading one post...

Hiyo
08-27-2007, 06:09 PM
I think the atidote works as if they are poisoned while the atidote is active they will not be harmed. Due to Sakura being able to fight as if she never were poisoned. They would of been fine if sakura did not get stabbed threw the stomach. But in the preview we see a seal on the ground, it could be to help kill sasori or heal sakura. Alos looks that chiyo has medical nin in here b/c she was doing something to sakura.

Hmm yeah, I swore there was a part where her antidote wears off and she looks like the poison is taking over agan. Guess it totally healed her and made her immune for the 3 minutes. But ya she's screwed now cause of the sword at the end anyways. Chiyo will safe her!

FbiHitman
08-27-2007, 06:43 PM
Hmm yeah, I swore there was a part where her antidote wears off and she looks like the poison is taking over agan. Guess it totally healed her and made her immune for the 3 minutes. But ya she's screwed now cause of the sword at the end anyways. Chiyo will safe her!

There was the one part where she looks like in extreme pain but not poisoned. I mean she would not be able to move at all.

Kyuubi No Yoko
08-27-2007, 09:13 PM
i just watched the ep and woahh!! really well done, the music rocked and the taijutsu moves on the puppets were insane and well animated..

FbiHitman
08-27-2007, 09:37 PM
i just watched the ep and woahh!! really well done, the music rocked and the taijutsu moves on the puppets were insane and well animated..

The puppets were amazing as if they had emotion while fighting.

2 questions thou.
1 - Like chiyo how exactly are you controlling the puppet arm on her. Some kind of chakra flow our strings minipulated by nerve endings?

2 - Since sasori is a puppet would he feal pain when being hit, same with chiyo's arm.

letsrock0303
08-27-2007, 10:53 PM
The puppets were amazing as if they had emotion while fighting.

2 questions thou.
1 - Like chiyo how exactly are you controlling the puppet arm on her. Some kind of chakra flow our strings minipulated by nerve endings?

2 - Since sasori is a puppet would he feal pain when being hit, same with chiyo's arm.

I would imagine since they can use and control the chakra in the puppet arms they had to come up with a way to form the chakra network in the arms. Seeing as the chakra network is tied in with the nervous system I would imagine yes nerve endings do play a part in the puppet control and yes they would feel pain. But that does bring up a good point. In the episode it says that the puppets made from dead people still have the chakra network. All of this being said did Chiyo rip those arms off of some guy and use them on herself or did she turn her own arms into puppets?

Hiyo
08-27-2007, 11:03 PM
Chiyos doesn't use humans for puppets. Her arm(s?) is(are?) wooden. That's why the iron sand screw he right arm up.

FbiHitman
08-28-2007, 02:07 AM
Also i thought about there sense's. If you are a puppet you should not have any of the sense's that the real bodies have. So that would prove to be a downfall.

Hiyo
08-28-2007, 02:50 AM
Sasori has hearing even though his head looks to be part of a puppet. He's likely found a way to have all his senses intact. I mean.. you could probably use chakra in a puppet to recreate the senses. Infusing chakra around the outside of the puppet could be used to mimic just about every sense. Sound vibes on the chakra for hearing. Large pressure on the chakra to sense touch.

LuCas
08-28-2007, 02:59 AM
I think the scorpion cylinder thing on his chest is his heart aka his source of chakra and his life btw.
It makes sense.
Someone mentioned something about it in the first few pages of this thread and it caught me on that idea.
Since the scenes keep showing it close view and he always brings it with him and such anyway.

KS07
08-28-2007, 05:00 AM
Hmm yeah, I swore there was a part where her antidote wears off and she looks like the poison is taking over agan. Guess it totally healed her and made her immune for the 3 minutes. But ya she's screwed now cause of the sword at the end anyways. Chiyo will safe her!
Probably some magical technique which sacrifices granny chiyo or something... As always.

VjekoV88
08-28-2007, 05:38 AM
This last episode had the best animation so far, why aren't all episodes so good

FbiHitman
08-28-2007, 11:33 AM
This last episode had the best animation so far, why aren't all episodes so good

B/c we like to disect and episode we see not fit.

halremawa
08-28-2007, 12:40 PM
wtf, there's still hope for the anime. i almost fully forgive em for the crap they've been dishing out

tonlew
08-29-2007, 05:15 PM
that was the best by far........