Shippuuden 24

[NarutoNineTails]

Raw is supposedly out...here is the thread for it.

Again, please discuss the raw using spoiler tags until the subs come out. Tx. :)

[LuCas]

OH SHIT LOL I didnt know it was thursday already I thought it was barely like monday or tuesday man it feels so different without school.

Hell yes, im looking forward to this. A little..

[Fabian_89]

lol... thursday already? <3

cant wait for the subs :D

[Thistle]

Sorry i`m a bit late...watched the RAW and this Episode is a good one. Definitely worth watching...


Now this is an Episode with less talk and more action than the last one so watching this was fun.
The opening is a teaser for the Shippuuden movie. We get right into the middle of the fight and can see how powerful that Iron Sand is, but i was also impressed by Sakura`s power and determination, and so the opponents demolish the countryside – literally.
We see some Team Gai fight and pursuit of Deidara and nothing really new happens but the main part is just Sasori vs Chiyo & Sakura action, and some flashbacks from Sakura`s training.
The last sequences are the stuff that i was longing to see – Sakura gets wounded but shatters the Kazekage puppet.
Overall very nice!

[Kyuubi No Yoko]

I posted the RAW links on the release thread for all to enjoy.

good episode, just a couple things i thought coulda been better but will wait for subs to discuss the episode, music was hot- but definitely good episode

[steve]

I'll wait for subs to discuss. Music sounded good in the raw.

[LuCas]

Positive responses to the episode already? Hmm, seems like a good episode then..

[Greatballrasengan]

Who heard of naruto shippuuden the movie? It will be HOT! I saw the trailer. And i cant belive that naruto will die. I love that show. It is cool. :banana:

[Toxic Anarch]

The sub is out ><

I usually dont step foot in the anime section..but w0w, this was a great episode. After the slow start for shippuden and its less then par animation, i didn't think they would do such a great fight justice. BUT I WAS WRONG ><.
The only bad part about the episode is that it ended too soon.

[Greatballrasengan]

When does the naruto shippuuden movie come out? I mean whn does it come out in subbed? So i can watch it. I really wanna watch it.

[Thistle]

Hello Greatballrasengan, welcome to the Forum.

The Movie got some bad critics recently, now where was that thread about it...anybody remembering where it is? There`s also an older thread about the Movie in the Konoha`s Anime Library section. It will take some time until a subbed version comes out, the Movie just started a couple of days ago in Japan. So it will take some time, some months, perhaps even a year.

If you wish to introduce yourself do it in here:
http://forum.narutochaos.com/showthread.php?t=10061

[Kratos]

When does the naruto shippuuden movie come out? I mean whn does it come out in subbed? So i can watch it. I really wanna watch it.

It will get subbed when it comes out on DVD. We will probably see it subbed in a year.

[Fabian_89]

It will get subbed when it comes out on DVD. We will probably see it subbed in a year.

yep... thats crap ._.

this episode was REALLY nice. I cant believe that Sakura became that strong ôO
Even the dei, naruto & kakashi part wasnt bad.


After all, Shippuuden is kickin asses :P

[claw]

Sub: http://www.dattebayo.com/t/

[Kratos]

Sub: http://www.dattebayo.com/t/

Links don't belong in this thread. This thread is for discussing the episode. Links belong here (http://forum.narutochaos.com/showthread.php?t=12793).

[Genius]

awesome episode, very surprising also!

[UndrDog]

I enjoyed this episode, but I didn't appreciate how they dragged it out. The crappy nine frame fight with Gai and his clone jumping around with 2D platformer sound-effects was just bad. Add in the fact that they repeated the same scenes on occasion and it was, eh. (even the repeat scene around the commercial was longer then normal)

However, the animation outside of the filler-frames was very well done. Sakura's thoughts and even flashback were well placed in the fight too. The execution overall made this episode really good.

However I was more stoked to see Animated Kiba, Kurenai and Hinata in the opening. lol

[Nebula]

well I liked the intro XD

[LuCas]

The episode was ok.. but now I wanna shoot someone cause I hate how they keep on making them look at eachother for like 10 seconds every few minutes. And gai just looks stupider and stupider when they animate him fighting.. lol.

I loved the sakura fight though, pretty cool. Kakashi looks like hes gonna do something for real now cause of what he said.

[steve]

Alright, Shuppiden 024 IT BE

Pros:
- Sakura is no longer the crybaby. From this fight, and especially this episode, we have seen that she is much MUCH stronger then she ever was before. If you think about it, she essentially just beat the third kazekage of Sand. He was also thought of as the strongest kazekage. Does this mean that she has surpassed the likes of Gaara? Well, I wouldn't say so, but just some things to think about.
- Chiyo essentially did nothing that episode except for sortof help move Sakura around. This is cool because it again, gives us more time to love the new and improved Sakura.
- Love Neji. Lee's kicks scraping the tree bark looked cool. Should do that more.
- Kakashi is as always, the level headed smart one. Naruto being himself to the fullest, no patience. It's like Kishimoto is trying to tell us, the audience "It doesn't work like that anymore. There's more to it then Naruto believing in himself this time around". Pretty good. Good job maturing the concept of the series.
- Sasori is one of the coolest villians ever. Just a bunch of different puppets. Think about the limitless supply of attack patterns he must command. Iron Sand World Law or whatever it was named was sick. Sakura, who specializes in dodging attacks, was unable to handle it. That was nicely done.
- Third Kazekage puppet looks/is badass. Looks even more badass being smashed by Sakura.
- Well placed Flashback. Made sense, advanced the story. I guess when naruto was gone, Sakura grew her hair out.
- The music fit.
- Animation was good in the important parts.

Cons:
- Team Gai's fights were the worst they've been so far. And thats not saying much considering they haven't been much to write home about. If you are gong to make it as boring each time around, don't bother showing the battles. Or, save the fights. Don't make so much mention of them. After Sakura is done fighting, or even, in the middle, take most of an episode to have those fights get wrapped up. Lets see some real action instead of 1 minute of bluggg... this is what they animated last... We all love Neji and Lee.... (maybe Ten Ten/Gai) but it's so unfulfilling to see them fight but do it so boringly. Oh and I guess that Kaiten is the same as spinning two tops. They just bounce off each other. That was really lame.
- Animation was inconsistent. Now before I take a bunch of flak for being an animation nazi, lets say that inconsistent isn't as bad as well, BAD. But, Gai vs Gai, Neji, etc etc looked absolutely hideous. I would've preferred if they had just not bothered.
- Got a little repetitive. Sakura dodges pointy, punches blocky. Repeat 30 times.
- Repeating old scenes, like after commercial break. you are so far behind the manga, it just isn't necessary. If you ever come within 20 chapters of the manga, then you can start one piece'ing out.

General Thoughts:
- This episode was good. The team Gai parts left a really really bad taste in my mouth but other then that, Sakura kicked ass, Sasori showed some cool techniques, Naruto is a hot head. Not bad stuff.
- Finally outof that cave, haha I like watching the fight in the light much better to be perfectly honest.
- So, judging from the title of the next ep, Sakura is poisoned and has to pull a Chopper to win. Next ep=end of Sasori v. Chiyo/Sakura battle?

Screen of the Week(there were so many to choose from but I just had to use this):
http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e177/fritzer7/vlcsnap-8556709.png
One of the worst moments of Shuppiden in one of the best episodes. KICK KICK KICK JUMP KICK KICK KICK JUMP. I literally puked.

[Hidden Ninja]

this episode was ok.

pros.

-intro had me itching to watch the rest of the sakura/chiyo vs. sasori fight.
-sakura was animated and drawn incredibly well
-her back story was great, and i was happy that the previous "final clip" from one of the earlier episodes of shipp stayed on track with the memory of sakura training.
-the sand techniques continued to amaze me. though the attacked continued to be the same, at least the made it not seem so bad when they explained how sakura was finding patterns in her opponents attack.
-to put poison in sand, great fucking thing. who would of thought that was possible to integrate poison into an element.
-tricking sasori and chiyo into believing she was poisoned and out of the battle
-ten-ten was the only part of team 8's fight that i liked. it showed a stand-of without repetition. i actually liked how they did her part this time.
-the desperation of naruto is apparent. it is showing his personality with the kyuubi more as well as how much stronger in some senses he is than kakashi.
-i wonder what kakashi was saying he would have to use. what is "that". quite excited to see what it is.

cons
-gai fighting. a jounin fighting like that. semi ridiculous. it feels as if i am watching the same sequences from the previous episodes. also just spin kicks, cmon....gai can do so much better.
-neji, better than gai but still disappointing. the only good part was the two kaiten's colliding. But its weird because now he uses kaiten while moving....so he's like a moving tornado?
-lee...god his comment was so stupid. not to mention repetition of his fight sequence was annoyingly obvious.
-sakura's movement to dodge the attacks were not the best. it seemed pretty poorly done.

best part of the episode:
the ending. when sakura tricked sasori and then slammed the third kazekage into pieces. what a way to end the episode. it made me feel pretty satisfied and excited for the next episode.

[NMK]

Looks like they're promoting the new Naruto movie, Opening & Ending.

Good episode imo, some things were obvious as usually.. Like her "faking" to get poisoned just to get close to the puppet. Some mindless mumbo jumbo but overall, the episode was good.

[Hiyo]

Decent episode for shippuden.. overall it's still not all that great.

Pros:
- the first few scenes with Chiyo puppeting Sakura were well animated.
- Naruto actually interacting with Kakashi and conversing a bit. The whole enraged Naruto got old after the chased started.
- The scene were Sakura slides back was animated the way stuff should be.
- They are outside now! Hopefully they can start ripping out new techniques now.

Cons:
- Sakuras dodging and kicking the iron got old fast. Maybe they made a big deal of her being able to dodge stuff in the manga... but it was really poorly done here then... cause it was damn repetitive and boring.
- Team Gais fights were absolutely terrible. There's no excuse for that... that's the worst fights i've seen in his series ever. Awful.
- Sakuras fight is sooooooooooo boring. I don't remember other fights being this boring. One technique, animated it for 5 minutes, new technique, animate for 5 minutes. Why kind of fighting is that? This is as boring as Kimi doing those gay dances to kill off Narutos clones. There absolutely no content to the fights. Shoot some needles, dodge some needles, stop, puppet fights in the middle of the area, stop, throw some iron crap, dodge iron crap, kick iron crap, pause, repeat iron crap, stop. Toooooo much Sakura fight. I'm hoping that once we get to Naruto/Kakashi fighting things will look up.

[papfles]

I only have one thing to say about this episode:

WTF is that gai-clone doing the same kick for 7 or 8 times in a row.....(and I'm not even mentioning the cliff-jumping)

[Nick]

eeeeW! The new shippuden opening credits shows previews of upcoming fillers!!


EDIT: Or it could be from the new movie I suppose.

[Toxic Anarch]

lol you have no reason to worry, there won't be fillers for a LONG time. There is a shit load of catching up to do with the manga. I won't say anything...but it is all great.

[Sasukemania]

I was hoping to hear a new opening song...already got tired of this Japanenglish hip-hopish "Heroes comeback", my favorite Naruto opening song is the second one (chunnin exams). Hinata looked so damn cute in the opening credits. I think she's the prettiest girl now in Konoha. Was opening and closing credits from the movie? Hope so, but these new bad guys don't really look so bad-ass. In the closing credits we can see Naruto's new love interest in the movie, she's a cutie too. The episode was good...Sakura is really strong now...nobody expected her to gain so much strength, but she was trained with Tsunade...But how the poison didn't affect her?
Although i would like at this point after this arc to see few 2-4 filler (no more) episodes. One with team Kiba, Hinata, Shino and one with Ino, Chouji, Shika.

[Fabian_89]

But how the poison didn't affect her?

She's a medical ninja. Antidote or somethin?

maybe we get to see a new op next week...

[Thistle]

I really liked this Ep much more than last weeks special. Perhaps i`m used to the neverending team Gai fight by now, i`m sure that they are going to drag it out until some point in the Sasori fight has been reached, perhaps the conclusion. So i`m hoping that this will be soon...

I was really impressed by Sakura and how the fight demolishes the countryside. As i said before, the last few minutes were the stuff that i`ve been hoping to see and this outweighs the things that i didn`t like. I got the feeling that this Ep was less talk and more action.

Overall a good Episode and i can agree with steve`s review as usual.

[Uchiha_Blaze]

Iron Sand's World Law was awesomer in the manga >.> infact this fight was awesomer in the manga T.T and i had high hopes for this one..ahh well its not over yet.

[Thistle]

Actually the fight in the anime is a very good conversion from manga to anime, i just think (like others) that the team Gai fight is rather boring.

And this fight is the best we have seen so far in Shippuuden and one of my favourites in the entire Naruto series but because the fights are getting better in Shippuuden i`m hoping that there will be more such intense fights in the future...

[Uchiha_Blaze]

Actually the fight in the anime is a very good conversion from manga to anime, i just think (like others) that the team Gai fight is rather boring.

And this fight is the best we have seen so far in Shippuuden and one of my favourites in the entire Naruto series but because the fights are getting better in Shippuuden i`m hoping that there will be more such intense fights in the future...

This is my fav fight in the Naruto serries and i was kinda hoping for better animation and a bit more ''thrilling'' capture of the fight from the manga to the anime.

anyway Sasori's quote of the day...Sasori: You have alot of power for a little girl.

[LuCas]

Hopefully it'll get way better by 2nd season.. which is in like 2 more episodes.
New opening too I suppose in 2 more episodes?

[nitestalker666]

I certainly enjoyed this episode much more than most of the past ones. Glad they're finally getting to good fights. Sakura is whooping some ass. I do agree with Thistle...that Team Gai fight needs to end. I was hoping they would decide to stop fighting each other and just trade opponents. I don't know why they keep fighting themselves, it's not helping. But whatever, the main event is good so that's all I care about.

[NarutoNineTails]

This episode didn't have glaring holes like the past one. Sakura showed some real progress. And the flashback of Sakura training w/ Tsunade shows again how a manga reader needs to be careful about what they say in this section. I think it was Thistle that used the information that was given in this episode for the argument that arose when Sakura was dodging the needles. I should give him a warning for that one. Again be very careful manga readers.

Edit:
You got a warning Thistle. Think twice before you post and don't use evidence ahead of the anime to support your argument in the anime section. Then again if that flashback was used in episodes prior to shippuuden 20 then let me know. I'll take back what I said here and apologize for jumping to a conclusion too fast.

[steve]

Just to put it in perspective...

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e177/fritzer7/11-12.jpg
http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e177/fritzer7/13.jpg
http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e177/fritzer7/14.jpg

[MrUseless]

Great episode... Sasori is so adoreable!

I kinda have to agree that the Team Gai fights are very boring, if you watch them its just the same few character movements repeated over and over in different spots... >.<

[Lorden Darkblade]

Finally we see a stronger and smarter Sakura!
I can't wait to see how this fight is going to end. Team Gai has to start using their brains too... Or should I say the animators should draw the end of that fight? lol
Anyway, good episode. I liked just think it's time for Team Gai to end those fights and to Naruto and Kakashi to catch up with Deidara.

[Sasukemania]

I wonder how accurate was the translation to "you got too much power for a little girl". Doesn't Sakura look way overpowered compared to her old self before timeskip?

P.S: Narutoninetails, why you say in ur sig not speculate what happens in the anime? In the forum rules for the anime section it says that we can speculate in caution.

"When speculating- your attitude should be that of the person who watches only the anime.

• If you are a manga reader-- your ideas should be that of how you thought when that part was touched upon in the Manga"

It doesn't say not speculate at all

[Uchiha_Blaze]

He means do not speculate on what happens in the manga and not in the anime.

[NarutoNineTails]

I wonder how accurate was the translation to "you got too much power for a little girl". Doesn't Sakura look way overpowered compared to her old self before timeskip?

P.S: Narutoninetails, why you say in ur sig not speculate what happens in the anime? In the forum rules for the anime section it says that we can speculate in caution.

"When speculating- your attitude should be that of the person who watches only the anime.

• If you are a manga reader-- your ideas should be that of how you thought when that part was touched upon in the Manga"

It doesn't say not speculate at all

You misunderstood me. Thistle argued a point using manga references in the shippuuden 20 thread:
http://forum.narutochaos.com/showpost.php?p=401604&postcount=70

You can speculate but you better not infer anything that's ahead of the anime.

[Sasukemania]

Thistle argued a point using manga references in the shippuuden 20 thread:
http://forum.narutochaos.com/showpost.php?p=401604&postcount=70
You can speculate but you better not infer anything that's ahead of the anime.

Thanks for making it clear.

[FinalFntasy]

hey Steve, what chapter/section of manga is that.

[NarutoNineTails]

Thanks for making it clear.

Again I want manga watcher participation...just try to be very careful...that's all! ;)

[Petronus]

I just have to say that this was my favorite Shipuuden episode so far. It really reminded me of the good old episodes from the original series. The flashback was perfect... I love the nice, short, prior training episodes that pertain to what they are doing.

I guess the main reason I loved this episode so much is because we are FINALLY seeing the growth of a main character - Sakura. I don't know about the rest of you, but I have been dying to see what new things everyone has learned over the past few years during the gap. The big one is Naruto... I can not wait to see what he can do now.

The only con of this fight was Gai fighting in my opinion. They used the same animation over and over for his attacks and he didn't do anything at all. I really liked when Neji jumped up and said the fight looked even. Then Rock Lee got excited and it reminded me again of the good old days... saying how he was proud of Sakura and he wouldn't lose either.

Good episode. :thumb:

[Greatballrasengan]

What happened to orichimaru and Sasuke? I kinda miss those old day. And does sasuke come back to the good side?

[NarutoNineTails]

i'm sure Oro and Sasuke will come into the picture soon enough. Shippuuden 1 surely gave us a glimpse of what to expect.

And it looked like from this episode that Lee could take out Gai w/ that awful and stiff taijutsu showing.

[Uchiha_Blaze]

The intro of shippuden 1 got me soo happy because i thought the animation will be like that through all the shippuden serries....i didnt expect it to be such crap though.

[Kyuubi No Yoko]

This was a good episode, very close to the manga facts and sequences.. i loved the music and it ended with a suprising sakura who was faking to be down destroying the 3rd kazekage...good cliff hanger.

I didnt like the fact that team gai is still fighting against their clones and the fight sequences of gai and lee were kinda weird...it looked to me like the animators didnt put much into it..very simple fighting movements repeated like twice or 3 times.

Sakura actually asked sasori about oro at the begining so most likely they will come into the picture some time soon.

I would also like to see kakashi finally do something, hes been saying for like 2 episodes "ive got to hurry" :p lol

Oh and we also got a preview of the 3rd movie on the opening and closing, although it confused me i thought that movie was abaout AK and naruto fighting them but they showed this guys that look like if they are from the snow country or star village shinobis

[Nick]

I don't remember the manga at the moment but, was sakura's hair supposed to be that long in the flashback of training with Tsunade?

[Uchiha_Blaze]

I don't remember the manga at the moment but, was sakura's hair supposed to be that long in the flashback of training with Tsunade?

Lol i THINK it was short so maybe it was an animation failure. Not sure though.

[Petronus]

Wellllllll.. you never know. During the past couple years she might of grown her hair out and cut it again. Girls are crazy like that.

Ohhh, you mean in the manga.. ? I wouldn't know about that.. not a manga reader. :)

[Lorden Darkblade]

Another thing, the music was perfect!
Can't wait for the OST to come out!

[LuCas]

Dammit, I want sakura to have long hair. She looks so much cuter IMO.
Shit, I just watched this episode again and looked at gai. omfg I am surprised I didnt barf. But I probably will on my 3rd time.
Can't they just switch opponents and kick ass that way? Except gai cause someone is gonna get owned.

[FbiHitman]

Good episode Overall
PROs-
- Got to see Hinata animated in the Intro (thats what i have been waiting for)
Cons-
- Gai fights are getting really boring.

[Fabian_89]

PROs-
- Got to see Hinata animated in the Intro (thats what i have been waiting for)

the one and only pro in this whole episode :D xD <3Hinata

dunno about Sakuras hair, but she looks much better with short hair.

[Hiyo]

Everything about Team Gai has gone from bad to terrible. The fight with Kisame had a few good points about it.. but the potential of that fight was missed big time. Gai and Kisame are definitely stronger than Lee and Gaara and look how that fight compared to the older fight. Sad.

I really hope that once Kakashi and Naruto get to fighting this will pick up. Call these episodes "great" is pretty depressing.

[insarty]

that episode was soooo bad.. If I cut out all of the useless repetitive garbage it was a 5 minute episode at most.

This is my new most hated Shippuuden episode so far, I came pretty close to closing it which has never happened before

[Uchiha_Blaze]

Anyway Iron Sand's World Law was pretty sweet.

[LuCas]

Yeah the world law technique was pretty crazy, it actually made me hyped up for the next few seconds.

[FbiHitman]

Yea liked the whole Sakura faking the affects to get the Puppet nice and close.

[kkextreme2]

The yellow hair girl from the opening and ending looks a lot like hinata.

[Uchiha_Blaze]

Lol another thing i noticed is how much Sakura was shaking when she saw World Law building up. Too bad Sandaime got broken :/.

[V.VELDANEN]

Holy crap, the episode sucked donkey balls...

[Fabian_89]

Hmmm... I really wanna know, what kakashi meant when he said that he has to use 'that'

Chidori? Hes too far away
Sharingan? Hes already using it

May we get to see a new jutsu of himself next ep? Or just another copy

hm :/

[LuCas]

I want to know too, but I also don't want to see any speculations from anyone anymore cause everytime someone does speculate/infer/predict/guess what might occur, always comes true for some odd reason. =[
Lets just talk about the sakura fight =) so yeah, looks like chiyo can't really get up anymore and sakura is gonna 1v1 but I hope she doesn't like.. walk over to chiyo & help her get out while sasori is just watching, lol. "I hate waiting, I hate making people wait" yeah please keep that up..!

[mandelak]

i liked the episode, i felt it was alright, but the on going repeating of the punching and kicking was shit as. nejis fight was good. lee and gais fight was almost identical. i liked the sakura fight. and the naruto just going nuts and taking off leaving kakashi behind

[Hiyo]

maybe kakashi will get tired of the shitty Gai fights and go kill him for MS

[steve]

maybe kakashi will get tired of the shitty Gai fights and go kill him for MS

lol if only.

[mandelak]

i wish that happens its about time gai get punished for the lame fighting and this will give kakashi the power to be kooler than itachi

[Lorden Darkblade]

maybe kakashi will get tired of the shitty Gai fights and go kill him for MS

Hahahaha who knows...
Anyway, excluding the whole Team Gai fights I liked this episode.
Can't wait for the next one!!!

[papfles]

I want to know too, but I also don't want to see any speculations from anyone anymore cause everytime someone does speculate/infer/predict/guess what might occur, always comes true for some odd reason. =[

He grows a long beard and catches deidara with it (same as the hairy spines jiraiya grew when he defended himself from oro's attack) !

[darkgunsl]

I'm getting really tired or the whole Team Gai fighting their exact clones..

When they started, my first thought was "hey, why don't they just switch partners?" Let Gai destroy ten-ten 2, while Ten-Ten runs like a little girl away fromt Gai 2. Completely believable.

Totally, cliche, I know, but come on, it works damnit! Its very hard to accept that they defeat their very equal at this point (Maybe even superior, since the clones don't seem to tire), and the clones just disappearing is a cop-out.

I also was going to complain about how Naruo and Kakashi should have passed by Gai or Ten-ten by now, following the river, but I actually went back to the episode where Pakkun had the map, and the river split at a certain point, so I'll let that grip go for now :P


Oh, and I'm totally attracted to Sakura now, unlike before.

[papfles]

"hey, why don't they just switch partners?" Let Gai destroy ten-ten 2, while Ten-Ten runs like a little girl away fromt Gai 2. Completely believable.

Not too bright. Gai defeats tenten-clone, while tenten runs away? LOL, gai is about the fastest person in the narutoverse, which would mean "byebye tenten". Besides, they're quite a distance apart. The clone would attack far before they reached each other. And who's to say the clones wouldn't defend each other the same way gai would defend tenten for example? (If you have ever played one of the original prince of persia's, you had to fight an image of yourself there as well.)

[Petronus]

I just thought of something... how does team Gai know that Sakura is the one causing all the damage and fighting? Did Kakashi ever radio Gai and tell him that? I can't remember for sure. I just know that they emphasized the "good job Sakura" a lot and I wasn't sure how they were sure it was her. :confused:

[tdeep29]

I believe that neji told them that sakura was inside, but I'm not sure though. If not then maybe Kakashi told them while he was in pursuit of Diadara.

[UndrDog]

Actually the best solution would be to fight each other and fool the clones to do likewise.

But I agree, they could at least put forth more effort into the animation.

[papfles]

Actually the best solution would be to fight each other and fool the clones to do likewise.


Again, if the clones are exact replicas (as they seem to be) then I doubt that for example tenten's and neji's clones are THAT stupid.

[Metaphor_]

I noticed everyone thinks that Sakura was faking being poisoned. Did anyone consider that she may actually be poisoned still, and have overcome the pain and induced weakness through sheer willpower or chakra manipulation in order to destroy the puppet? To me, this would make sense, given the next episode's title... just a thought :)

[Hiyo]

The next episode shows her with what looks to be some type of medicine/antidone. Probably the same crap she gave Kankuro.

[NMK]

When they started, my first thought was "hey, why don't they just switch partners?" Let Gai destroy ten-ten 2, while Ten-Ten runs like a little girl away fromt Gai 2. Completely believable.

Um, I'd say that Lee and Neji are the only was that can switch.. I honestly don't think that Ten-Ten could stand a chance against Neji or Lee. And Gai is too strong for any of them.

Neji and Lee would probably be happy about switching, since they both wanted to fight each other (Before Shippuuden) They've probably fought already but who says Lee/Neji doesn't want a rematch? ;)

[profiler09]

the fight scenes really sucked especially gai and rock lee n ten ten it was so poorly done they show gai reapeating the same kick lie a thousand times wtf
imma bout to stop watchin shippuden n stick to da manga n da english versions cause dat shit was ass
its like they don't pay them enough to do a good job

[papfles]

n da english versions cause dat shit was ass

Anyone available to translate this into adult English?

[profiler09]

and the english version cause that shit was ass damn its common sense

[papfles]

and the english version cause that shit was ass damn its common sense

in the words of the almighty dr. evil: "I don't speak freaky deaky dutch, ok perv boy"

[Fabian_89]

uff... ehm... He's about to stop watching sippuuden... He'll start reading the manga in an english version....?

shippuuden is by far not as bad as your english. lol

horrible :S

[profiler09]

in the words of the almighty dr. evil: "I don't speak freaky deaky dutch, ok perv boy"

"perv boy", u fuckin dike, how bout u take da nearest dike n stick it up ur ass
fuckin gay bitch n wtf is freaky deaky dutch dat shit iz so whack fuckin retard

[papfles]

"perv boy", u fuckin dike, how bout u take da nearest dike n stick it up ur ass
fuckin gay bitch n wtf is freaky deaky dutch dat shit iz so whack fuckin retard

*sigh*

It's a movie quote, nothing more, nothing less.

What are you? 4?

[profiler09]

*sigh*

It's a movie quote, nothing more, nothing less.

What are you? 4?

dats da best comeback u could come up wit, stupid dutch bitch, n no i'm not 4

[Reputator]

I can't imagine as popular as Naruto is everywhere that they have such a low budget to do these episodes. This one was a cheap as the worst of the filler plague, and looking at the first episode, Shippuuden was supposed to be really high quality stuff.

23 minutes and it covered two simple plot points: the cave collapses and The Third was destroyed. If you want to scrape the bottom of the barrel, Sakura was poisoned for a third point. I hate overly drawn out episodes. The manga moves faster than this.

[papfles]

I'm not gunning for a "comeback", as I have no intention of creating a flame or a troll.

With that movie-quote, I was merely implying you changed your "slang" to something everyone understands in stead of some 50-cent lyric

I do not intend to go to the "fuckin dike/stick it up ur ass/fuckin gay bitch/dat shit iz so whack fuckin retard/stupid dutch bitch" level of conversation. I suggest you read the ToS.

Besides, because I use that quote, I'm Dutch? Okay then.

[Fabian_89]

the manga isnt moving faster... In fact, the anime is moving faster, thats why they use filler.

@profiler09: ahh you just become 5 years old right?... go home

[profiler09]

I'm not gunning for a "comeback", as I have no intention of creating a flame or a troll.

With that movie-quote, I was merely implying you changed your "slang" to something everyone understands in stead of some 50-cent lyric

I do not intend to go to the "fuckin dike/stick it up ur ass/fuckin gay bitch/dat shit iz so whack fuckin retard/stupid dutch bitch" level of conversation. I suggest you read the ToS.

Besides, because I use that quote, I'm Dutch? Okay then.

aight my bad

[profiler09]

the manga isnt moving faster... In fact, the anime is moving faster, thats why they use filler.

@profiler09: ahh you just become 5 years old right?... go home

who the hell are you, i don't recall talkin to u so how bout u hop off my di.k

[MrUseless]

Profiler, please refrain from overusing foul language and looking to get in an argument with someone. It really does make you look like a complete jackass.

I still think Sasori is adorable though! *huggles him*

[profiler09]

wat r u talkin bout, i wasn't even talkin to him but he still had to say something stupid n now i'm a jackass
imma bout to log off be4 i start cursin u out too

[Fabian_89]

wat r u talkin bout, i wasn't even talkin to him but he still had to say something stupid n now i'm a jackass
imma bout to log off be4 i start cursin u out too

you're the one who's saying stupid things all the time... :der:


In the preview we got to see Sasori lookin like a puppet. Imo this fight isnt over yet.

[LuCas]

Yep seems like hes a puppet for real. Seems like it was true when someone predicted it few weeks ago. Told ya, whenever someone predicts/speculates/guesses something of whats gonna occur it just always come true later on for some odd reason. Oh well, ill try to not to read those predicts/speculates/guesses posts from now on so I can get surprised myself when I see the episodes myself :D

[Reputator]

the manga isnt moving faster... In fact, the anime is moving faster, thats why they use filler.That's probably generally true, but not for this episode.

[steve]

wat r u talkin bout, i wasn't even talkin to him but he still had to say something stupid n now i'm a jackass
imma bout to log off be4 i start cursin u out too

lol, calm down dude. Its an internet forum. Save the rage for someone who you can at least see face to face. Not worth it here.

[Hiyo]

Yep seems like hes a puppet for real. Seems like it was true when someone predicted it few weeks ago. Told ya, whenever someone predicts/speculates/guesses something of whats gonna occur it just always come true later on for some odd reason. Oh well, ill try to not to read those predicts/speculates/guesses posts from now on so I can get surprised myself when I see the episodes myself :D

That's like the 4th time you've said that :P

Why is it odd that speculations come true?
Chiyo using chakra strings to move Sakura around was pretty obvious. Chiyo is a puppet master and had no puppet. Sakura HAD to avoid all the needles. Chiyo had a plan which resulted in Sakura dodging them all perfect instead of running away like Chiyo originally wanted her to do. Makes sense that Chiyo would have strings on her.

And you can thank Samnas for pointing out stuff which made speculating Sasori as a puppet more likely. I mean, he is a puppet master with almost 300 puppets, he's able to turn human bodies into puppets, he teamed up with a guy that could transfer souls into another body. Seems logical that he could infact be a puppet too. The ultimate trump card for a puppet master.

[LuCas]

Nah it wasn't obvious that chiyo used sakura as a puppet the first time, I remember everyone here was complaining how it was stupidly animated she was dodging like 1 million needles and then the next episode we got to find out. We all thought it was how it was animated, I dont think anyone knew that she was being puppeted (if thats a word).

The sasori being a puppet was an ok speculation since it like showed lines on his neck to us a few times, but still it wasn't something someone can pick out so easily by watching the anime regularly. And all the stuff you said there was like what the anime told us after it was revealed anyway.

[Hiyo]

Nah I speculated both those things a few episodes prior so I assume you thought i was spoiling :P

[-RX-]

Oh my....
How boring can Shippuden really become...-_-



that episode was soooo bad.. If I cut out all of the useless repetitive garbage it was a 5 minute episode at most.

This is my new most hated Shippuuden episode so far, I came pretty close to closing it which has never happened before

"Nice guy pose" on this one!

[Kratos]

This was an ok episode. I think there were two major things holding this episode back from being one of the best episodes. The first thing is Team Gai vs clones. Either animate something right or don't animate it at all. The second thing is the use of repeated scenes. The Satetsu Kaihou (Iron Sand World Law) jutsu was awesome. I also liked the way Sakura acted like she couldn't move and destroyed the Third Kazekage puppet. I can't wait to see what else Sasori has up his sleeve.

[Hiyo]

Repeated scenes are really killing it for me. I wish they'd put a lot more regular moves in the fight. If they want to add stuff they could have Sakura punch the ground and fling up some rock towards Sasori or something random like that. Instead of just waiting for the blocks to get outta the ground and come back over and over.

[insarty]

The reason a lot of peoples speculations come true are because manga readers for some reason feel the need to come here and fake-speculate.. for some reason it makes them feel good to make everyone think they were right.

[steve]

The reason a lot of peoples speculations come true are because manga readers for some reason feel the need to come here and fake-speculate.. for some reason it makes them feel good to make everyone think they were right.

Ok, I'm going to lay this out for you. WHat do you prefer

A) Manga readers come here and only complain about animation and music and never discuss the story(because its all one big spoiler?) and you never get to have a discussion because we all just complain.

B) Manga readers speculate being careful to never lead or mislead. Just discuss the characters "oh this was interesting, I wonder what will happen" (this is what manga readers currently do)

C) There is a naruto anime section. Once a week there is an episode thread created. In that thread, 5 anime only people post(really, it is mostly manga+anime viewers that post in this forum not anime only)

Most of the speculations have been by anime only viewers. Quit complaining, without us manga readers there would never be any discussion here, not like there is much anyways. Manga readers, because we have an extended knowledge of the story, do a LOT of self policing. If someone steps outof line, we jump on it right away. This fight makes alot of sense, the speculations have been made using anime only knowledge. "Chiyo is going to use Sakura as a puppet". You can really really back that with anime knowledge. It makes sense.

And no, I dont feel good after fake predicting, because shuppiden sucks and I don't know why you don't read the manga. I feel good predicting manga stuff and seeing it come true

[Fabian_89]

dito, even if I'm not a manga reader at all :D

some things really are conceivable... If you don't want to speculate anything at all, or just do wrong speculations, you don't need to discuss in a forum :/

No manga reader ever really spoiled the anime for me, just 1time with that sig and ava of uchiha_blaze... theres nothin to complain about

[NarutoNineTails]

Nah it wasn't obvious that chiyo used sakura as a puppet the first time, I remember everyone here was complaining how it was stupidly animated she was dodging like 1 million needles and then the next episode we got to find out. We all thought it was how it was animated, I dont think anyone knew that she was being puppeted (if thats a word).

The sasori being a puppet was an ok speculation since it like showed lines on his neck to us a few times, but still it wasn't something someone can pick out so easily by watching the anime regularly. And all the stuff you said there was like what the anime told us after it was revealed anyway.


For me it had more to do with how that dodging scene was animated. The movements that was shown in dodging those needles was not consistent w/ how Sakura was being moved by Chiyo in other instances. I mean Chiyo would have had to move here fingers during that dodging exchange but the anime conveniently skipped that detail.

The reason a lot of peoples speculations come true are because manga readers for some reason feel the need to come here and fake-speculate.. for some reason it makes them feel good to make everyone think they were right.

Yes this does happen but very infrequently now and when it does happen it is usually pretty minor now. I agree w/ steve in that this section does need manga reader participation to have decent discussions unless we somehow get another 5 or more good anime only posters. Manga watchers just need to be careful and think twice before posting to avoid possible spoilers. They know I look at posts very carefully, even weeks after they are posted, to point out spoilers and deal out the necessary consequences of that. I hear that not many forums are as strict as NC in terms of enforcing the no-spoiler policy.

[Uchiha_Blaze]

For me it had more to do with how that dodging scene was animated. The movements that was shown in dodging those needles was not consistent w/ how Sakura was being moved by Chiyo in other instances. I mean Chiyo would have had to move here fingers during that dodging exchange but the anime conveniently skipped that detail.

What do you expect from 2 Korean kids ? Seriously the only episode that was remotly or was well done was ep 15 i think, the one where Asa Kujaku and Oodama rasengan were performed.

[NarutoNineTails]

What do you expect from 2 Korean kids ? Seriously the only episode that was remotly or was well done was ep 15 i think, the one where Asa Kujaku and Oodama rasengan were performed.

What was Asa Kujaku? I don't remember what that technique was.

And it is more of a direction issue than the 2 kids that do the actual drawings for the scenes imo. The kids are just following what they are told to draw (which probably isn't much imo). They would have to be told to draw in the finger movements of chiyo while she was in dodging mode also. I highly doubt they were specifically told to do that. Any areas that they are filling in BIG chunks of missing frames from the manga, Good direction and detail is key. It seems like they are told very generally what should be done to the actual drawers and the results can be very poor in lot of cases for shippuuden.

[hotnikkelz]

This episode was lazily animated. Look at the Gai vs gai, and Rock lee vs rock lee. Gai vs gai jump to one side, perform some kick and punch motions repeated, jump to another rock, repeat same animation again. For a good 20 seconds same animation repeated over and over. Very lazy and uninteresting

[qwertyu]

Yep seems like hes a puppet for real. Seems like it was true when someone predicted it few weeks ago. Told ya, whenever someone predicts/speculates/guesses something of whats gonna occur it just always come true later on for some odd reason. Oh well, ill try to not to read those predicts/speculates/guesses posts from now on so I can get surprised myself when I see the episodes myself :D

how do u know that he not a manga reader?

[LuCas]

That is my question, =P

[Fabian_89]

thats the risk you have to live with when you're reading posts in a forum :P

I wonder if they finally bring that gay ehh i mean gai fight to an end. And whats with Kankuro, temari etc. ?

We've seen them some eps before, wonder when they're going to appear next time.

[Uchiha_Blaze]

What was Asa Kujaku? I don't remember what that technique was.

And it is more of a direction issue than the 2 kids that do the actual drawings for the scenes imo. The kids are just following what they are told to draw (which probably isn't much imo). They would have to be told to draw in the finger movements of chiyo while she was in dodging mode also. I highly doubt they were specifically told to do that. Any areas that they are filling in BIG chunks of missing frames from the manga, Good direction and detail is key. It seems like they are told very generally what should be done to the actual drawers and the results can be very poor in lot of cases for shippuuden.

Asa Kujaku = morning peckock, the technique gai performed, it was awesome in the manga but mediocore in the anime.

edit: it was animated pretty darn well but it wasn't displayed corectly.

[NarutoNineTails]

Ahh...I forgot the actual name for morning peacock. Tx.

[LuCas]

thats the risk you have to live with when you're reading posts in a forum :P

Yeah, but I just can't stand not reading the discussions here, they are just too good.!

[sage213]

is there no 25 this week?

[LuCas]

There is, its just some of us can't post because there is some error around here. (I cant even post in the other thread in The Round Table)
edit: 25 RAW is out, if that makes you happy :D