Naruto isn't as good anymore

[rzoro]

Maybe i'm in the minority but I don't think the new Naruto is as good as the old one(before the 100 episodes of fillers obviously). I dunno to me they are seriously DRAGGING out each episode which is just spoiling the episodes for me. I know that people compare Naruto to Dragonball. So if that's the case Naruto was like Dragonball and Naruot Shippuuden is like Dragonball z. Dragonball they just got on with it and Dragonball z just dragged out each fight scene for like 10 episodes. I can really see them dragging out this latest fight scenes for a good 10 episodes. Ive never read the manga but i'd bet it wasn't anywhere near as dragged out. Sometimes i'd just wish they'd get on with it and stop trying to waste time. Quality is better over quantity.

[LuCas]

Just wait, my friend told me it gets REALLY good later (not sure when) and he reads the manga, it totally hyped me up. I told him if it was as good as how bleach was in the 40's or 50's and hes like yeah, so don't give up on this anime yet.

The biggest thing that sucks is the animation it wasn't as good as it was in naruto episode 1-80 but we can always hope they change animators again soon.

IMO the order of best of animation/animators goes:

Naruto episode 1-90 > Naruto episode 90-136 > Naruto Shippuuden episode 1-21
(didn't count most of the fillers)

[Narusukashi]

I totally agree with this thread. Fights are just ridiculously dragged on with the same fight sequences over and over, and DBZ like battles where the 2 fighters stare at each other for 15 seconds. Really.. the first Naruto didn't have any of that ( aside from Neji vs Hinata ) and all the fights were fun to watch.

Fortunately, there will be better fights in the future which I hope they don't drag on..

[Fabian_89]

lol i got really excited about naruto after this last ep oO
some shippuuden eps really sucked but hey, after all, its naruto! and imo we havent seen enough of shippuuden to tell it's not as good as the old ones...

we havent seen most chars as well... weres hinata? :'/ just wait another 20 eps and you will see that shippuuden is nice as well :D

[Thistle]

Just how can anybody know that Shippuuden will be good? Have you seen future episodes? Where can i download them? :p

Be glad with what you`ve got. I think Shippuuden is getting better with each episode. Does anybody want fillers again?

[samnas]

I kinda agree with you that there is a kind of dragging in shippuuden, but i don't think that its that bad, imo the story is just building up and its just started, wait until the fight starts, like in 21 ...

About the animation i don't agree with you, we have just seen 21 episodes, and you say that naruto part 1 has better animations, not all episodes though, i still remember that chunnin exams second round, what horrible animation it was and even some episodes of the first round matches ...

Give shippuuden a chance, don't just rush things ... And i agree with LuCas and his good friend, there are many good things coming up ...

[DonEmu]

You know, i once thought that the shipudden animation wasnt up to scratch to the part 1, then i went back and watched part 1 and i realised that Naruto never realy had stellar animation. I remembered that i didnt really watch Naruto for the animation, i just wanted to see how somethings played out animated as opposed to manga drawing. That is when i decided to stop watching Naruto once more. So i no longer watch shipudden. I think most people due to the manga sort off forgot how things really were and raised their expectations a tad too far.

[steve]

Anime's based on manga will ALWAYS drag out the storyline, its unavoidable. If you can't handle it, you should stick to the manga...

THIS SAID:

It all depends on what you use to drag it out. In the case of Shuppiden, more often then not, they have used really shitty non-manga content that has left everyone wanting more.

So yes, I agree that Shuppiden isn't as good as the orig series. I don't think it's really a difference in story quality, but rather, presentation on the part of the anime team. I'm waiting till the beginning of the next arc to decide whether I will keep watching, I want to see if things change after this one

[Narusukashi]

Anime's based on manga will ALWAYS drag out the storyline, its unavoidable. If you can't handle it, you should stick to the manga...

THIS SAID:

It all depends on what you use to drag it out. In the case of Shuppiden, more often then not, they have used really shitty non-manga content that has left everyone wanting more.

So yes, I agree that Shuppiden isn't as good as the orig series. I don't think it's really a difference in story quality, but rather, presentation on the part of the anime team. I'm waiting till the beginning of the next arc to decide whether I will keep watching, I want to see if things change after this oneI guess you're right about the presentation by the anime team. Due to the fillers, Naruto has to me, become nothing but dragging out scenes. I guess the year and a half of nothing but manga only has made me set the bar too high, but that's to be expected.. after all the months of fillers, I expect alot since the time skip has so much potential and is much much more exciting than the first.

[Fabian_89]

how can u say you dont really like shippuuden, when you already watched "old" naruto? I want to see whats going to happen with the hole story, especialy sasuke... didnt you liked the story back then? :/ i dont care about animation, since its a really nice second part for a story i used to love...

[Shinobi Of The Abyss]

Does anyone else notice that everything in SHipuuden is all extremed...? Not only that but everything comes really easy to everyone. We liked seeing hardships in the Original. Also not every episode you see them fighting S-Ranked Ninja. Sometimes I like just seeing them in the Village...Like the one where they tried to figure out how Kakashi looked underneath his mask :p

[darkgunsl]

Yeah, but Kakashi's mask episode was a Filler episode :P

Really I think what the difference is, is that the manga had a really good lead on the anime when it was first created, (though this is speculation, I'm not sure how many chapters had passed before the airing of the first episode) just there was no need to drag it out a bit like it does with Shippuduen.

And there were *alot* of flashbacks and filler stuff in the pre sauske retrival arc.

[Hiyo]

Shippuden still feels like filler to me. Everything has lost it's meaning because it's been so dragged out. Gaara got killed? huh? Oh ya that happened a month ago, I totally forgot because the last 3 weeks the character have been standing in the same damn spot. The Akatsuki don't feel powerful and Naruto/Co look like they are just on another filler mission and haven't grown one bit. We are 21 episodes into this series; by this time the Haku arc was finished in the original series. It doesn't feel like this series has complished much in comparision.

And like Steve said, the non-manga content they stuff into the episodes to drag them out is terrible. Showing the shock/agreement on every characters face, one at a time, everytime something happens.. is sooooo lame.

It's definitely not as good as the old Naruto. Maybe once they get this stupid Sakura fight over with they can make the Naruto fight really good and give it some meaning.

[EDIT]:

I'd much rather have flashback scenes tossed into the episodes to drive a point home.

[LuCas]

Just watched naruto episode 50 and 66-69
Ahh, I miss those days ;) watching that in 8th grade was so cool. Im now an incoming senior in high school, it's been so long =[ I feel emo now.

[Kumo]

What really ruined it for me was the 200+ fillers... i just got sick of anime ninjas...

[steve]

Original 'first' arc by the 20's:
Naruto fights mizuki
Naruto graduates academy
Naruto meets Sasuke and Sakura
"" meets Kakashi, bell test
"" do pointless missions
"" Goes to Water Country
"" Fights Zabuza
"" Trains
"" Fights Zabuza
"" Fights Haku
"" Zab/Hak die
"" end of arc
"" chuunin exam starts

Shuppiden 1-21:
"" Bell Test
"" Introduce two new atks. members
"" Gaara loses
"" Gaara dies
"" Fight Itachi
"" Fight Kisame
"" Break a rock.
"" fight clones
"" start fighting sasori/dei.


Really really... huge difference in what has happened...
Would not have been hard to put a bit more into the episodes.

[KageNaruto]

Even though I think both the Shippuuden and pre-timeskip Naruto could have been done a lot better, it does feel like Shippuuden has just lost the spark that keeps your interest.

But now that I did re-watch the old eps, it's not that much worse. Heck, the first season of Naruto was terrible.

[steve]

ahh you see, for me, I rewatched the chase sasuke(more modern, I know) arc and remembered what attracted me to the show

right now its all delivery for me. I don't really care about hte quality of the animation. If it is adequate that it entertains me in conjecture with the music/pace/action then I am satisfied. Its just, shuppiden episodes have fallen short of putting together all of the necessary elements to make really entertaining episodes. So far, the one where naruto breaks out oodama rasengan and the most recent have been the best.

The bell test was ok, parts of gaara's fight was ok, the beginning of sakura vs sasori was ok...

It's a new series, we haveto remember, I just hope they find a way of developing it well. First step: MORE MUSIC. Or, recycle old music(orig. naruto had a perfect soundtrack... why can't they use a few of those tracks?)

[rzoro]

The animation i can handle. I mean yeah sometimes the quality isnt as good but that is a 'minor' for me. It's all about the content, give me good content and i'm happy. But like people have said maybe it's because when Naruto first started the manga was so far ahead they just stuck to the manga(i don't read any manga so i wouldn't know myself). But now things have just dragged out really bad as they're not so far ahead i guess. Like someone said Gaara died a month ago and the fight scenes have only now really just started.

The thing is after making us suffer through all those crap fillers for years i was expecting something a bit more when they finally came back. Just a bit disappointed but maybe it will improve. But at the moment I can't say that this new series is of the same high quality as the first 100 episodes.

[LuCas]

I think the new style that we don't like (regarding the animation/whatever) is how they show the characters charging fully at an enemy and it looks slow.
Back in the regular naruto episodes 1-80 they had them charge, cut off the last second of the attack and then showed the punch right after making it look like a fast fight (at least most of the episodes). Its better that way to cut off the last second so it doesn't seem slow and all. If any of you get what I am saying..

I watched naruto episode 50 the rocklee vs gaara fight and I saw them cut off scenes when rocklee was charging at gaara, they cut off the last second each time when rocklee charges at gaara and immediately shows the punch right after. This isn't the only episode just because rocklee busted out his gates, I used this cause this fight made it obvious how it entertained us with the fight.
Plus, they don't blur the characters in shippuuden when they run around/charge around, it looks better if they blur out the edges and stuff like how they did in ep 1-50 (especially ep 50, but even in naruto episode 3 (not shippuuden) or so when naruto fights they blurred him a little and he looks pretty damn fast)

I am not sure if 'blur' was the right word, but its the best I came up with.

[steve]

I prefer the word "smear"

[Thistle]

During part 1 an average of 1,76 chapters was used per episode (238 chapters, 135 episodes). Shippuuden uses roughly one chapter per episode, and that`s why there are so many complains about the story dragging along.

Shippuuden is a cash cow and as long as the number of viewers doesn`t drop dramatically, they will continue this. Which means it will probably run for a couple of years.

Most manga readers surely have favourite events they would like to see and are more impatient than others. But the last few episodes have gotten better and i`m sure that it will keep on getting better. It`s too early for serious complains. Let`s talk about this in, let`s say, half a year again?

[Fabian_89]

oki, we meet here in half a year, same time :D

[Hiyo]

I think the new style that we don't like (regarding the animation/whatever) is how they show the characters charging fully at an enemy and it looks slow.

I personally don't even consider this a "style". I think it's more like lack of a budget or staff. Maybe the studio took on a lot of new animes during new seasons when the fillers were running and now Naruto isn't able to have as many animators working on it. I'm sure it's a heck of a lot cheaper animating Naruto moving in a straight line for 10 seconds over and over again during an episode than putting in more scenes from the manga for 4-5 more minutes of the episode.

The episodes are decent and definitely watchable. It's just a shame they don't really leave anything savor. I could careless if Naruto gets Gaara back from Deidara. Sasori doesn't look like that fearsome of a bad guy. Sakura is strong, Naruto has new cloths. That's about all i've taken in from Shippuden so far. I still enjoy watching it every week but theres nothing that makes me go "oh man I can't wait to see next weeks episode".

TGFBleach.

[LethalBanee]

Ur mom isnt as good anymore. jahajah jk

Naruto will get betttter

[samnas]

Sasori doesn't look like that fearsome of a bad guy.
What? ... how much more fearsome do you want him to be, and btw, this is not bleach its naruto, you will not find that much of a fight and that kind of violence as in bleach ... Naruto is all about plot and storyline ... and something is better than nothing ...

A little spoiling *looks around for NNT*, you haven't seen anything yet of how much sasori is fearsome of a bad guy ;) ...
Ur mom isnt as good anymore. jahajah jk

Naruto will get betttter
Yo, Lethal! good to have you back man ...

Agreed with you, wait for a while, don't rush things ... i remember when i first started watching bleach, just after the first episode, i didn't enjoyed it and i was going to leave it, but when the SS arc started i got interested in it and still am ...

[Uchiha_Blaze]

IMO Sasori is more fearsome then Itachi >.>. He has made around 300 puppets out of humans....cleaned theyre organs, sucked out theyre blood, ''pickled them'' so they dont rot and turned them into puppets. Oh and if u forgot, he kidnapped the strongest Kazekage that ever lived, defeated him (i guess he didnt stealth kill him because he said that this one was rather hard to get) and turned him into his collection.

[Thistle]

oki, we meet here in half a year, same time :D

Alright, don`t be late...

And Hiyo, it`s just been 21 episodes. Perhaps nothing much has happened so far (besides Narutos return, the introduction of new main villains, several fights, Gaaras abduction and death :)) but i`m sure that means that the story is only in its early stage.

[Hiyo]

Your opinions sound too influence by the manga.

I may not be paying very close attention to the episodes but from what i've seen so far he killed the greatest kazekage and turned people into puppets.

(a) They never explained how he defeated the kazekage. Who says he defeated him solo? Oro killed two kages. He didn't do either alone. He used a lot of prep for summoning the first two kages and he had the sound 4 trapping them inside. I don't think defeated the greatest kazekage is all that amazing considering he has a shitload of puppets too. Kankuro isn't exactly a top ninja. I imagine top puppet users would be pretty amazing.

(b) They never really said what he does the the bodies. Just that he turns humans into puppets. The 3rd kazekage looks like a wooden puppet. What part of him is from his human form? Are there guts and stuff inside? Is he flesh? Or maybe Sasori just defeats them and traps their soul inside to steal their jitsu. That haven't said anything about ripping guts out,etc :P

Maybe if he gets some flashbacks in some future episodes he'll seem a bit better. So far I don't find either of the two new Akatsuki that great.

Oro and Itachi are probably the two top evil-doers for me. Kisami doesn't seem all that great either.


and btw, this is not bleach its naruto, you will not find that much of a fight and that kind of violence as in bleach ... Naruto is all about plot and storyline ... and something is better than nothing ...


OMGZ THIS ISN'T BLEACH!? duh. I've watched both series just as long as you. It's not about lack of violence... it's about a lack of a character. Likely cause things are being drawn out. Sasori just doesn't seem that great to me. When they first introduce Itachi and Kisame it was like two huge powerhouses came into the anime. When they first introduced Sasori and Deidara together prior to capturing Gaara they both seemed really power. Now that Sasori is out he doesn't seem all that great. Maybe if they hurried it up a bit his fight wouldn't be so lame.

[Uchiha_Blaze]

He said when he was in hiruko form what he will do to Sakura (explained how he will turn her into a puppet)

He said that the 3rd gave him a hard time to deal with. And do you realy think Orochimaru would do his dirty work for him >.> ? I based facts that were not only shown in the manga but in the anime also.

[Thistle]

[QUOTE=Hiyo;410119 Sasori just doesn't seem that great to me. When they first introduce Itachi and Kisame it was like two huge powerhouses came into the anime. When they first introduced Sasori and Deidara together prior to capturing Gaara they both seemed really power. Now that Sasori is out he doesn't seem all that great. Maybe if they hurried it up a bit his fight wouldn't be so lame.[/QUOTE]

Deidara defeated Gaara, the 5th Kazekage. Sasori defeated the 3rd Kazekage. As you could see Deidara fought on his own, what makes you think that Sasori didn`t do so? Deidara calls him "Sasori no danna" which is a term of respect and Sasori is the boss. That must mean that he is stronger. I wouldn`t judge him by his appearance.

Edit: now why didn`t that quote thing work...

[Hiyo]

K I looked back to find the part about draining the blood. He still isn't impressive to me :P

Deidara defeated Gaara, the 5th Kazekage. Sasori defeated the 3rd Kazekage. As you could see Deidara fought on his own, what makes you think that Sasori didn`t do so? Deidara calls him "Sasori no danna" which is a term of respect and Sasori is the boss. That must mean that he is stronger. I wouldn`t judge him by his appearance.

Sheesh it there a hidden Sasori fan club around here or something? Sasori isn't badass. Sorry guys... maybe sometime down the road he'll get a serious fight with someone else and end up looking cruel, stronger, dangerous, whatever. Right now i'm just waiting to see how he escapes from Sakura and Chiyo. I don't see him defeating obviously, but I don't think Sakura will even end up that hurt in the process. I wish Kakashi had fought him... then maybe it'd be more interesting.

Anyways it's just an opinion. If you think he's awesome that's cool :P

[Uchiha_Blaze]

Well everyone has their own opinions m8 ^^. Anyway he says: These might be even more shocking, he was one of the hardest to kill and add to my collection, But that's what makes him my favourite.

Oh and also, Chiyo: Sasori you did it ?! Sasori: So what ? Youre telling me an retired old hag about to keel over, is going to revenge him ?

Man i just love Sasori's arrogant aditude. Infact they ''captured'' him soo good that im starting to realy enjoy Shippuden, i hope this keeps up. So all in all imo Shippuden is enjoyable to watch, sure it had his bumps but the studio is getting better every episode. We saw what the animators are capable of in the first min of shippuden (that Sasuke thing). So lets give them another 10 episodes and then judge if they suck or are good.

[samnas]

(a) They never explained how he defeated the kazekage. Who says he defeated him solo? Oro killed two kages. He didn't do either alone. He used a lot of prep for summoning the first two kages and he had the sound 4 trapping them inside. I don't think defeated the greatest kazekage is all that amazing considering he has a shitload of puppets too. Kankuro isn't exactly a top ninja. I imagine top puppet users would be pretty amazing.
As far as i can remeber AK always fought alone with their opponents ... Deidara fought alone with Gaara ... And deidara even said that master sasori is stronger than him ...
(b) They never really said what he does the the bodies. Just that he turns humans into puppets. The 3rd kazekage looks like a wooden puppet. What part of him is from his human form? Are there guts and stuff inside? Is he flesh? Or maybe Sasori just defeats them and traps their soul inside to steal their jitsu. That haven't said anything about ripping guts out,etc :P
Thats why i said to wait a little bit ...
Kisami doesn't seem all that great either.
The guy who has the largest amount of chakra in the whole AK doesn't seem all that great to you ... cool ...
OMGZ THIS ISN'T BLEACH!? duh. I've watched both series just as long as you. It's not about lack of violence... it's about a lack of a character. Likely cause things are being drawn out. Sasori just doesn't seem that great to me. When they first introduce Itachi and Kisame it was like two huge powerhouses came into the anime. When they first introduced Sasori and Deidara together prior to capturing Gaara they both seemed really power. Now that Sasori is out he doesn't seem all that great. Maybe if they hurried it up a bit his fight wouldn't be so lame.
Shippuuden has just started, do you think that will show off everything about sasori in like few minutes ... and give me some names from bleach that are real bad ass ...
Sheesh it there a hidden Sasori fan club around here or something? Sasori isn't badass. Sorry guys... maybe sometime down the road he'll get a serious fight with someone else and end up looking cruel, stronger, dangerous, whatever. Right now i'm just waiting to see how he escapes from Sakura and Chiyo. I don't see him defeating obviously, but I don't think Sakura will even end up that hurt in the process. I wish Kakashi had fought him... then maybe it'd be more interesting.
Thats why you should probably wait for till this fight ends ...

[Thistle]

Sheesh it there a hidden Sasori fan club around here or something? Sasori isn't badass. Sorry guys... maybe sometime down the road he'll get a serious fight with someone else and end up looking cruel, stronger, dangerous, whatever. Right now i'm just waiting to see how he escapes from Sakura and Chiyo. I don't see him defeating obviously, but I don't think Sakura will even end up that hurt in the process. I wish Kakashi had fought him... then maybe it'd be more interesting.

I think he is a more fascinating villain than Itachi or Kisame.

And about "how he escapes from Sakura and Chiyo", Deidara is convinced that Sasori will handle those two and Kakashi almost went back to the cave.

[Hiyo]

Bleach: Gin is badass. Aizen is badass since we found out he was evil.
Naruto: Oro is badass. Itachi is badass. Any seen with them is awesome regardless.

I don't care about what they SAY about Sasori or what future episode have in store for him. I'm saying right now in the anime he doesn't seem all that badass to me.

And yeah, Kisame has a lot of chakra. Big whoop. His fight with Gai was boring. Deidaras fight was pretty boring too. So far aside from Oro/Itachi the Akatsuki members haven't been presented that great in the anime IMO.

Maybe if I read the manga i've had a better impression. But everything involving the Akatsuki after they first arrived in the Sand Village hasn't been all that great imo.

[Uchiha_Blaze]

Bleach: Gin is shmexy, Grimmjow is shmexy, Ulquiorra is shmexy (lovable emo <3)

Naruto: Sasori is teh sex, Deidara is badass, Itachi is shmexy (lovable emo <3)

etc lol.

[samnas]

Bleach: Gin is badass. Aizen is badass since we found out he was evil.
Naruto: Oro is badass. Itachi is badass. Any seen with them is awesome regardless.
I haven't seen Gin doing anything bad uptil now, aside that he sided Aizen ... And what was that real badass thing that Aizen did ...
I don't care about what they SAY about Sasori or what future episode have in store for him. I'm saying right now in the anime he doesn't seem all that badass to me.
In the earlier episodes, Aizen, Gin and Tousen were all like saints but now as you say that they are badass, so why can't sasori be a badass after few more episodes ...
And yeah, Kisame has a lot of chakra. Big whoop. His fight with Gai was boring. Deidaras fight was pretty boring too. So far aside from Oro/Itachi the Akatsuki members haven't been presented that great in the anime IMO.
IMO, Kisame did big techniques, even though he was having only 30% of his chakra at that time, imagine if he has 100% what can he do ... Deidara's fight was pretty good and it was very well presented by i would agree that little dragging was there ... and oro/itachi are the only characters that have been presented till now ... deidara and sasori just came few episodes ago ...
Maybe if I read the manga i've had a better impression. But everything involving the Akatsuki after they first arrived in the Sand Village hasn't been all that great imo.
Manga is the same as Anime is going right now ... its not that you will see speedy thing in manga ...

[Hiyo]

I totally forgot about Grimmjow. He's badass too. Gin's attitude is badass.

Samnas: You don't have to quote and reply to every comment I make. It doesn't change my impression of Sasori. Go hug your Sasori plushie or something.

[samnas]

I totally forgot about Grimmjow. He's badass too. Gin's attitude is badass.
Kisame's attitude is also badass and even deidara's attitude ...
Samnas: You don't have to quote and reply to every comment I make. It doesn't change my impression of Sasori. Go hug your Sasori plushie or something.
I will, i want you to take notice of my post ... I am not at all a sasori fan or something, i just want to make things clear ...

[Uchiha_Blaze]

*hugs Sasori doll* caugh caugh, anyway lol Samnas im a huge Sasori fan but that dosent mean i force other people to like him. Sure a vast majority thinks hes a complete badass but there will still be exeptions, ppl have diffrent tastes.

[Thistle]

I don't care about what they SAY about Sasori or what future episode have in store for him. I'm saying right now in the anime he doesn't seem all that badass to me.

Allright, it isn`t so that anybody here doesn`t respect your opinion :)

Concerning the Akatzuki there are still a couple of members which we haven`t seen so far. Perhaps in the future we get to see them and you will find someone whom you think is as badass as Itachi.

[Arty]

Well.

The man who is producing Naruto is , with no doubt, the worst maniger , producer and in all .. plain stupid.

He had the chance to make on of the most popular anime in historys , one of the greater classics in the future 2 come. But his greed for money or what it was , cost the anime its quality. With all the budget they have..., They could have afforded decent shounen animators , not this fucking crap shit. Even the old Kanon was better. Not only the animation though... the voices are bad , the frames are bugged. I cant find a single good thing about the anime now :D

[LuCas]

Whoa, I haven't seen this many people liking a new character for a while.
The last popular character that was introduced that made people being fans for was Itachi..
First it was gaara, then rocklee, then itachi, and now sasori ;)
Hurray, I thought there'd be no more cool characters that everyone would fall for anymore, I love sasori now too.
And when the fuck are they going to introduce that new guy/girl that was showed in the intro of shipuuden episode 1? (don't answer please) I wonder if he will be the next new 'fan character' for people when he is introduced!

[bobis101]

ya the shippuden is kinda boring right now and all but if you look at the manga chapters corresponding to the current shippuden episodes it is all talk...

the first few eps of naruto-they weren't all that great in quality. but after that, wow! the show got like ten times better.

[Genius]

stop complaining, sure the original series was good... it was new, fresh. now the characters are mature, sort of adults. get used to the new, i dont know how many of you would want them to use the original music for these 200+ episodes but thats lame

[steve]

dude, the original music was really good. THe new tracks are good too but theres only like 4-5 and they are all movie-epic. They don't hae any really good fast paced tracks. Theres no shame in reusing some of the old tracks or re-recording them and upgrading them a bit. No one is saying that they ONLY use old tracks. But the new soundtrack does not do a good job with certain parts of the series.

[Gabe Rod]

Well naruto doesn't give me the same feeling anymore. I haven't even seen episode 21 yet.

[steve]

you probably should
its a good ep.

[LuCas]

dude, the original music was really good. THe new tracks are good too but theres only like 4-5 and they are all movie-epic. They don't hae any really good fast paced tracks. Theres no shame in reusing some of the old tracks or re-recording them and upgrading them a bit. No one is saying that they ONLY use old tracks. But the new soundtrack does not do a good job with certain parts of the series.

That is probably the best thing to do for shippuuden.

[UndrDog]

Eh, to me the show was better when everyone from Naruto's class was involved. Or at least a few of them. Such as the Chuunin Exams, and the Sasuke Retrieval Arc. The Zabuza Arc was amazing too because we were still learning about the Naruto World and Team Seven. In fact the least popular part of Part One was Naruto's training and the Hunt For The Next Hokage arcs.

I really think that the show becomes more interesting when you incorporate more main characters rather then quick cameos.

[spacecadet319]

its only been a few episodes, im sure its gonna pick up soon

[NarutoNineTails]

was it raising fighting spirit? Oh man i missed that track. You knew there was gonna be some kick ass fighting going on when that came on.

I'll say shippuuden hasn't met the high expectations I've always had w/ the series but I'll render judgment after I see at least 50 episodes.

[Irv]

you're lying...naruto is still good you just wait and see, he who has little faith

BELIEVE IT!!!

nah j/k...ur right

[orion49]

I wouldn't say it isn't good - but they are dragging the storyline way too long. The Sasori vs Grandma/Sakura | Naruto/Kakashi chasing Diedra | Team Guy fighting themselves has been going on for 5 EPISODES with no real progress.... They're still fighting Sasori, Naruto is still chasing Diedra with Kakashi yelling "Wait" and Team guy are still fighting themselves. This is worse than a Soap Opera. As good as Naruto is, it's starting to get boring.

[LuCas]

Rofl look at naruto episode 1 (part 1, not shipuuden) how he was running away in konoha from the juunins (or chuunins, w/e) look how fast he is, and then look at shippuuden at his speed. WTF!? lol. I definately miss how they animated naruto back then. It was so much cooler even if it wasn't realistic. But hey, who cares if its not realistic, ANIME is not even realistic..!

[being]

they just dont deliver like they used too. before, when one thing happened it was you wanted to see it over and over again. now with the current naruto, it like okay that was pretty good what happenes next?

[orion49]

IMO the current Shippuuden Episodes are the true "Fillers". I can see where this is going.... 10 episodes to finish the fight with Sasori, then 10 episodes for Diedra vs Naruto/Kakashi & 10 more episodes for Team Guy vs their clones. So the whole battle should take us to episode 48.

[Gabe Rod]

IMO the current Shippuuden Episodes are the true "Fillers". I can see where this is going.... 10 episodes to finish the fight with Sasori, then 10 episodes for Diedra vs Naruto/Kakashi & 10 more episodes for Team Guy vs their clones. So the whole battle should take us to episode 48.

Yup agree. This fight is gonna last forever. They haven't even really gotten into any big jutsu's or anything and naruto's and kakashi's fight hasn't even started. I'm sorry but if this is how the anime is gonna be I'm not gonna watch it. I mean the anime will never catch up to the manga now. So when the manga is done they should get some good animators and have them go back to the 2 chapters per episode because right now it's 3/4 of a chapter in 1 episode. That's crazy. I don't think you can drag it out any longer. Like you said they pretty much are fillers.:tsk:

[Uchiha_Blaze]

All this time there was a shippuden hate thread..woa. Anyway ye i found only episode 15 good, all other sucked tbh. I still don't know why can't the animation be like in that little preview of Sasuke vs Naruto at the begining at ep 1....when i saw that i was like wou, shippuden is gonna rock...but no they screwed everything.

[RandomGuy]

i wonder what the polls will turn out like if theres another anime vs manga thread/poll. the manga is better by far imo, just as it used to be. being someone who read the manga only up until like volume 25 until i started watching the anime, i really dont see that much of a difference. ok, well ill admit that things feel a bit more dragged out than before, but most of the shippuuden episodes are the same as the old ones. alternating good/bad animation, added bits that werent in the manga to draw out the episode, a lot of dramatic pauses, etc. its all the same. imo the manga has always been better than the anime

[Lukasz]

shipuuden is slow. older naruto was not.

this is the biggest problem with new series.

[insarty]

Yeah, but Kakashi's mask episode was a Filler episode :P

heh that episode is the only filler I enjoyed, good stuff

[Sasukemania]

I really miss "rising fighting spirit"....music in original Naruto was awesome...miss almost all tracks... Except for music, (i like some tracks like the Akatsuki theme),
The main problem is like almost everyone else said is that its too slow...I was watching the clock in last episode... Sakura's antidote for poison only lasts for 3 minutes....well a whole new episode ended...and still the three damn minutes of the effect didn't pass... At near the end of the episode Sakura said: "there's only two minutes left now"...Jesus..Everything in slow motion. Ok, the animation sometimes seem kinda dated..for 2007, but i like the animation. I believe that Deidara vs Gaara fight was really impressive.

[Hiyo]

This episode wasn't really slow considering all the content that was in there for that one minute. I thought this was a good episode to help break into the final parts of the fights hopefully.

[LuCas]

Maybe the fight will end in 2 episodes cause 1 episode = 1 minute, haha.
A new season is coming next week, isn't that a new song/intro/opening?

[Gabe Rod]

Maybe the fight will end in 2 episodes cause 1 episode = 1 minute, haha.
A new season is coming next week, isn't that a new song/intro/opening?

Well they need something to make naruto, naruto.
They need better animation and a good rate of 2 chapters a episode or something. It really sucks right now, sadly.:(

[Genius]

then stop watching it

[Dark Uchiha]

I enjoy Shippuuden more for may reasons. First off, Sakura is not a weak wimp anymore and is actually cool. Everybody has grown stronger, has more interesting battles and uses cooler techniques. Also the whole story line with the Akaustki is awesome. But the old Naruto was okay, but the fillers ruined it...

[.Sage.]

Maybe i'm in the minority but I don't think the new Naruto is as good as the old one(before the 100 episodes of fillers obviously). I dunno to me they are seriously DRAGGING out each episode which is just spoiling the episodes for me. I know that people compare Naruto to Dragonball. So if that's the case Naruto was like Dragonball and Naruot Shippuuden is like Dragonball z. Dragonball they just got on with it and Dragonball z just dragged out each fight scene for like 10 episodes. I can really see them dragging out this latest fight scenes for a good 10 episodes. Ive never read the manga but i'd bet it wasn't anywhere near as dragged out. Sometimes i'd just wish they'd get on with it and stop trying to waste time. Quality is better over quantity.

I agree with you, You`re not alone :thumb:

[Dream Catcher]

Yup.... the old Naruto was wayyyyy better

[Antagonist]

old naruto was like peaches and cream... not that I eat cream... seriously -_-"

[Dream Catcher]

Peaches and cream actually stand for something else (at least in the song htey do)

But seriously.. i started watching the old Naruto again and its soo much better ... even the music

[Azure Wrath]

i remember episode 31 (or something). i watchedthat one OVER and OVER because it was SO cool. I havent had such an experience with naruto recently.

[Dream Catcher]

what was ep 31 about ?? The eps i love watching over and over are the fight with Neji , Naruto vs Gaara.... and when Shikamaru, Choji, Neji, Kiba and Naruto fight the sound nin ..

Oh and drunk Rock Lee is the bestest

[Azure Wrath]

31 or w/e was when sasuke fought Oro (when he was still disguised as the rain nin). that fight scene pwned.

[Dream Catcher]

haha it did ... but sasuke was a little bitch and Naruto took care of bidness ... kinda

[Fabian_89]

i just rewatched the old openings... geez...

I nearly forgot about all the nice things in old naruto, all those things shipuudden doesn't have so far...

like shikamaru beating stronger guys with his shadows, his tactics. (really awesome scenes)

like lee being the fastest nin around, going his own way (i loved it when he appeared and fought that bone guy for naruto)

like naruto being totally retarded, but then, when it comes to the fight, being controlled by his emotions.

like the way everyone was helping each other, their friendship was one of the most important things in old naruto. They were working as a team. Now we already had 32 ship. episodes, and we didn't even had most "squads" on the screen.

like oro being the bad guy. Akatsuki doesn't look that badass to me. Sasori's alrady dead... hope we'll see oro again soon :D

like neji being one of the strongest genins. Now he looks like shit.


there are so many things >.>

:'(

[UndrDog]

I know I'm going to be yelled at, but I really think some of the best animation we've seen has been in Shippuuden. However the majority of it has been the worst stuff ever.

It seems as though I always say this, but Naruto has never been a well animated anime. Even if it's going to be like 500 episodes long in the fact that we know they can afford not to make it look like garbage is annoying.

However we've seen Team Eight now, and Shikamaru and Chouji. One would assume that Ino will be introduced soon. From what we have heard Team Eight isn't in the next arc. And probably not Team Ten either. It would be REALLY nice to see our friends more and it seems as though we won't be able to for at least another arc. At the very least the fillers kept our favorite characters coming back.

[Hiyo]

I totally agree that all the stuff in shippuden so far hasn't been as good as the best stuff prior to the time skip. But then again they really haven't done much yet. Mostly just exploring the Akatsuki doing there thing. I mean... if you think about it... Sakura got her air time in with the fight with Sasori... her fight time pre-skip was against the sound nin and Ino... I'd say the Sasori fight was a hell of a lot better. I think once get to get seem some really good progression in the story and some of the old characters getting into some good fights things will start to pick up quickly.


IMO the point the anime is at right now is when the manga started to get really interesting for me (post-timeskip). Within a few episodes we should have months of really entertaining Naruto goodness. That chase with Gaara was kinda boring.

[Tatsujin]

Team Gai fight vs clones.
6 milion episodes to show Kakashi almost ready.
Another 2 for use MS.
Sasori fight (dodge the needles)
urrrrmmmmmm.............................
Only thing I belive now,is that they can stretch even short "one picture action" for two episodes,and U have to wait 3 weeks between them.
SUXXX

[Garion1122]

I don't really mind that the fights themselves are dragged out - Naruto was always like that, with lots of talking so that you understand the driving force behind whoever was doing the action.

What is irritating the crap out of me with Shippuden so far is that they recycle animation clips to extend the length of the fights. So basically they'll animate one punch and one kick, and then recycle it multiple times to make it seem like a longer, more difficult fight.

That really comes down to a poor job by the director, as obviously they're trying to maximize the output while cutting down on both time and costs. Creating a few short clips and reusing them is much cheaper than creating new work, which is why you also see a number of flashbacks with filters over them to make them feel more like memories.

Hopefully the quality, in that regard, will raise soon. Sigh.

[mtv637]

yeah i totally agree with most people here. shippuuden is a total bust for me. i love naruto but that alone doesn't cut it. its crap for an anime. whatever they are doing stop! this isn't anime period!!! someone tell them that!!!! not your regular american cartoon. its freakin japanese anime. make it like one! man i'm one angry asian.

[purifier]

It's definitely getting better. I have lot's of patience when it comes to anime, and any other entertainment medium.

Just because... 20 episodes were pretty bad, it doesn't stop me from enjoying it. Sure, I don't enjoy it as much as I could, but I still do. I don't spend the episode analyzing every frame with 40x zoom. I watch it for what it is, entertainment.

Some people point out a lot of animation and art flaws all the time, which I honestly would never have noticed if they hadn't been pointed out. Of course, the Gai stuff was getting on my nerves, and even I could tell how lazy they were with it.

Anyway, it has gotten a lot better, and seems like it's going to be doing fine. Unless Naruto starts looking like it was drawn by a four year old, I keep watching it.

Of course, maybe it's because I don't read the manga, so I don't sit here expecting something every episode, or watching for some obscure thing to be done/said.

[Riddarn]

I haven't read the manga.. i still think the anime sux to be honest.

the first 3-6 episodes of shippuuden was quite good after that it just went shit... everything is _extremely_ predictable, and the fights... lol... even the incredibly irrelevent and repetetive talking is better than the fights. it is NOT quality, every anime i've seen so far (quite a few) is way better than this shitpuuden.
if youre interested what pissed me off it was mostly these things

***SPOILER***
Team gai fighting clones with the stupid comments and repeating clips... and then the solution "its so simple, we just have to be stronger then we were first" WOW (incoming fighting music) LOL @ THAT

Kakashi and naruto chasing the bird guy for 60+ mins...
And this new guys "ability" is just silly in the anime atleast.. man they are not even trying anymore

I only came to the forum to see if i have outgrown naruto or something. but clearly i am not the only one. i'll just dump this crap and go for the manga but i have a feeling it will suck almost as much

[papfles]

The manga doesn't suck :)

Its buildup, its pace and such easily outdoes that of the anime.

The gai-scene shouldn't be considered, since that is pure filler.
The log-jumping scene was indeed stupid.
The new ability isn't really stupid, it looks really cool, we've only seen it once, it'll get better

[Arty]

I think the animators should learn how to use photoshop...

That Odama Rasengan looked like one of Paul's balls exploding after a wild night with me... Yes epic - but not what your expecting to see nor something you really wanna see.

The Manga is so much more badass =/ If you compair "the age" thing id say the anime aims at 4-14 year olds but the manga 14-xxxx ( I mean =/ its got some flexing blood and hentai scenes )

[Sanbi]

Yes I totally agree...even the 90 filler episodes were worth watching in the first Naruto...I was actually EXCITED to see the episodes...

[Hyuuga Tojara]

It's cause they're now doing the chapters one by one, like they did with Dragonball...

[winchester20]

Well, it's either a one manga equals one episode situation, or we get to a point where we have another hundred filler episodes, and though I did enjoy some of those, I have NO desire to relive the lot of them. I first started watching Naruto dubbs after Shipuuden had made it to epi #20 or so, and even though it was a trial of faith gettin thru the filler, I knew the real thing was waiting at the end of the tunnel. I can't imagine what it must have been like getting through the filler as it was released week after week.

Oh, and yeah, the manga is WAY better than the animated.

[rzoro]

To be honest i'm not bothered by the music and i can handle the poor animation it's the whole pace of the story that does my head in. Everything is just so sssllllllooooooooowwww. This reminds me of the difference between watching dragonball and dragonball z and naruto is doing exactly the same thing. I just don't have the same excitement towards watching naruto right now like how i used to. I one time went a month without watching it just so i could watch 4 in a row to help me enjoy it more as watching one episode with nothing happening was doing my head in.

[the bane]

i like the music of naruto . i feel that they drag the episodes a bit.the manga is much more interesting than the anime

[rzoro]

I've never read the manga but now i'm really tempted to start. Can anyone tell me what chapter i would need to start from in relation to where we are now in the anime?

[Seraphiel]

I've never read the manga but now i'm really tempted to start. Can anyone tell me what chapter i would need to start from in relation to where we are now in the anime?

chapter 301.Here is the link http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/301/01/

[rzoro]

Oh excellent thanks for that.

[dharq]

I still really enjoy Naruto, but I think Kishi's writing style has started to bother me... He's spent so much time fleshing out the other characters (especially Sasuke) throughout the series and glossing over Naruto that Naruto's own growth seems forced and hard to gauge accurately.

Compared to something like HSDK, where the main character's focus remains consistent throughout the series while still getting to flesh out and see the training and motivation of the other characters, this lack in Kishi's style really begins to be more evident.

Don't get me wrong. I love the characters in Naruto as a whole... I just think that when the title character spends so little time in the spotlight it becomes increasingly harder to tell a good, consistent story.

[Fabian_89]

Imo ship isn't as good as pre-time, because they're niot fighting like ninjas anymore. I mean, huge explosions + powerups? In pre-time, lee rocks cause he was fast, shikamaru cause he's intelligent.

[mandelak]

I miss seeing naruto go to the ramen place though. i dont think he has gone there since he got back

[Hitman_Hart]

I'd have to disagree here. I do agree that the fights are clearly dragging out nowadays in Naruto Shippuuden, but the first 100 episodes of Naruto really weren't that good either, or atleast way better than the episodes right now, like how you make it. Even though the first 100 episodes of Naruto were definately more fast paced, the Sasori vs. Sakura and the elder woman, using your logic, had way more quality than most of the other fights in the original Naruto series. Even with that one fight, I would say that Naruto Shippuuden is equal to or even better than the orginal Naruto series, and with the newer episodes of Naruto Shippuuden and all, the slow momentum of it is probably going to end now.

However, the analogy between DB and DBZ with Naruto and Naruto Shippuuden does make sense actually.