Naruto Shippuuden 21

[samnas]

RAW is out, get it here: [Anime] Naruto Shippuuden 21 (http://forum.narutochaos.com/showthread.php?t=12544)

Took a sneak peak at the RAW, its awesome, the animation, the music, the presentation, infact everything ...

One of the best Shippuuden Episode so far ...

[Uchiha_Blaze]

I want the animation to be perfect for this fight, lets hope it is.

[ACPRO]

bewwwwtang yay thats awsome.

[Uchiha_Blaze]

they nailed it with his voice and his attitude, i cannot belive it they actualy managed to show Sasori in his ''Sasoriness'', im so happy. Oh and wasnt this week supposed to be a double episode ? :/

[Fabian_89]

next ep is gonna be a special

[Thistle]

Just watched it and would like to comment on it. I`ll try spoiler tags for anyone who would like to wait for the sub.


The appearance of true Sasori is great, he looks awesome and his voice fits. It`s scary when he addresses his Grandma. The secret of how Sakura could dodge the needles is revealed.
We get to see some more Team-Gai-fight and Naruto chasing after Deidara, but the best thing is the fight Sakura & Chiyo versus Sasori as he reveals a fearsome new puppet- there have been hints at what it could be. So the fight against Sasori seems just to have started.The soundtrack is awesome, we get to hear some new pieces made for Sasori. Animation is nice. Overall, a great episode. One of the best of Shippuuden so far.

[steve]

I have high hopes for this ep.... DB is probably getting down to it as we speak

[NarutoNineTails]

samnas says every shippuuden episode rocks so I'll just disregard what he said in his first post...hehehe. j/k ;)

[amod]

nice episode :)

[samnas]

samnas says every shippuuden episode rocks so I'll just disregard what he said in his first post...hehehe. j/k ;)
Hidoio NNT http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t6/essamnasir/My%20simileys/crying.gif , Shippuuden rocks and i will not back away from my words ... Why Naruto? why? why are you sooo good? ...

Ok i couldn't resist and finally saw the stormberry subs, since DB subs are not out yet i will not say much, but i have to say this, its one of the best shippuuden episode so far, nuff said ...

I really liked the new Sasori, it sent some chills down my spine when he appeared, those freaky eyes, he actually looked kinda cute and a badass at the same time, his voice is awesome and it matches perfectly with his new face ...

[Uchiha_Blaze]

Sorry if i ask this but at what time do DB subs usualy come out, i usualy just go to sleep and wake up and bam there they are but im gonna stay up through the night so.

edit: And i love how evil/spooky Sasori looks.. *Sasori Voice*: Chiyo baaba : <3

[Sasukemania]

I saw it with stormberry subs. It was an episode with lots of "nothings" in it. I mean we saw a little of Sasori's true face, and no his real voice isn't so scary. Chiyo said that Sasori didn't age a day in all these years. He was talking about "eternal beauty" with Deidara. Deidara continue to tease Naruto, and Kakashi is afraid that Naruto will do something stupid without his guideness.
Then we saw some filler content, Gai's team vs clones, and Sand's team. Oh, in the end had some new revelation about Sasori's power and activities. Every time the episode feels shorter :(

[Kratos]

DB sub is out. Get it here (http://forum.narutochaos.com/showthread.php?t=12544).

[UndrDog]

The reason why this one seemed shorter is probably due to the action. At least this time there was action throughout and when there wasn't there was background information being told. Though the "Summer Special" is it special in the fact it has a different time? Or special in the fact that it's gonna be a double episode?

All-in-all I liked it. However I did get a kick out of Tenten picking on Kakashi. That's what happens when you put everybody in the ending theme but her.

[purifier]

The summer special is going to be especially special since it's on my 18th birthday.

Sasori is a lot cooler than I thought he was initially. I hated his puppet shell.

[steve]

Well, this was quite the episode!

Pros:
- Angry Naruto is always cool. "Go look after Sakura" haha Naruto, sometimes so bullheaded. Looks like Dei is getting something ready for him though, Shuppiden is a bit different then the original "run in, take the beating, get up, run in, and repeat" approach that Naruto used to win all his battles previously.
- The team Gai fights held a bit more energy this time around... especially Neji's battle. There was no trashy "backflip byakugan" this time, just intense hyuuga hand to hand. Really really cool, just reminded me why he's my favorite character. I hope they dedicate one episode to wrapping up Gai's fights, or two even.... or 1 for Neji himself.
- The pace in this episode was perfect. All the dialogue had a purpose, built on the story.
- The third kazekage! Sasori must be one hell of a tough guy. That said, the third makes a wicked badass looking puppet.
- Sasori: Got him perfect. THe arrogance, the evil light heartedness, everything. What a monster, entirely. Love him. Love to hate.
- Of course the battle at the end, Chiyo is doing all she can just to keep Sakura alive. That puppet does not dick around, the blades, the multiple arm summon... thats a really cool puppet. Too bad Kankouro doesn't have his own... (should probably start turning his opponents into puppets... remember Sakon and Ukon? They would've made good puppets with their abilities).
- Sakura afraid... but not crying... I think we can finally start putting some faith in her abilities.... although I guess Chiyo is doing all the work.
- Kankouro is badass... good to see him back on his feet.
- NEW SOUND TRACK!! YES!! Whatever was playing when Sasori rushed with the third was a wicked wicked song. Thankgod, about time.

Cons:
- Wierd perspectives, wierd animation at times. But really, this is nitpicking, it was a really well presented episode, really fluid, lots of energy.
- Naruto's "GOTTA RUSH" approach is starting to get old with time... the "new" "grown up" Naruto should be able to think a little more then that... hes fighting a long range fighter, obviously he is going to get a bomb in his face.
- I wouldn't have minded a little less team Temari running and a little more Team Gai fighting...
- Still miss some of the old tracks... at least give us more music...

General Thoughts
- shuppiden is finally starting to deliver IMO.
- Sasori is a kickass villian. The third kazekage is a kickass puppet. Sasori and Chiyo look a little undergunned right now.
- Next few weeks of episodes are going to be awesome. Awesome!! Next week is a special too right? Yessssssss

Screenshot of the week.
http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e177/fritzer7/vlcsnap-13340071.png

[Thistle]

A fine summary as always, i enjoy reading them.

At last an episode with very few things that anybody can complain about.

The appearance of Sasori, his voice and the music score gave me the goose-pimples. In my opinion, best Shippuuden episode so far.

[W4NN1]

no 1h special this week ??? :(

[papfles]

no 1h special this week ???

Press alt f4, do 3 jumping jacks, call your neighbor and tell him his time is nearly up, and then the real one hour special will appear in the download-section...

[Thistle]

No, but next episode is a special.

[Hiyo]

yay Chakra strings on Sakura and the puppet.... as if it wasn't obvious :P
Sasori looks pretty cool being young like that. This episode was pretty good. Still plagued with some crummy random dialog but whatever; they don't REALLY need to show all 4 ninjas agreeing/shocked in the scene with Temari. Or spliced comments between Neji/Tenten/Lee. We already know they are fighting their doubles, they said it would be hard a while ago :P
Tiny things like that are getting irritating. I don't remember this stuff pre-filler.

But anyways, the fight was cool and the story advanced a bunch. Sasori and Oro were old partners. Maybe he learned Oros technique to make himself look young.

[W4NN1]

man Sasoris new puppet is the total pwnage

[samnas]

Nice summary as always Steve and the screenshot is really awesome ... but one thing i thought you wanted some new music tracks in shippuuden not the old ones ...
yay Chakra strings on Sakura and the puppoet.... as if it wasn't obvious :P
Yeah yeah, you were right and i was wrong T_T, that proves that chiyo will not be that easy for sasori as she looks like ... and sasori also said that it will take forever if she fights with him ... and sakura is the same as before just some brutal strength and some medical abilities, thats all ... but she was dead serious when sasori mentioned about oro, and i hated her at that point ...

One theory is put to rest that the The Third Kazekage was the Akatsuki Leader (AL), its official that the kazekage was killed by sasori and the real AL is someone else ...

But how come sasori is so young, he hasn't aged a day ... to me it looked like that he has some forbidden jutsu like oro had ... as sasori said himself that oro was his partner, so i think that oro might have taught him his forbidden jutsu ...

And hey i noticed something odd, it can be an animation mistake or just that i have a bad eyesight, here's the pic of sasori's arm, there is a line on his arm, what is that line ...
http://img503.imageshack.us/img503/2662/vlcsnap382774na3.png

[papfles]

And hey i noticed something odd, it can be an animation mistake or just that i have a bad eyesight, here's the pic of sasori's arm, there is a line on his arm, what is that line ...

OMG, there's two arrows as well! RUN!

[samnas]

OMG, there's two arrows as well! RUN!
-_-

What was that papfles, those arrow are also red, its blood, RUN away even further ...

[Fabian_89]

... naruto is about to get me really excited again!

next episodes are going to kick some asses!! <3 1h special :DDD

[W4NN1]

Well Tsunade also looks still young and didnt use the forbidden jutsu

[samnas]

Well Tsunade also looks still young and didnt use the forbidden jutsu
Well she is a medical genius and she figured out a way to be young somehow ...

[papfles]

-_-

What was that papfles, those arrow are also red, its blood, RUN away even further ...


You're right!

AAARGH

[MrUseless]

Pretty good episode, better animation and a wee bit of background on Sasori and Akatsuki.

[NMK]

Well, this was quite the episode!

Pros:
- Angry Naruto is always cool. "Go look after Sakura" haha Naruto, sometimes so bullheaded. Looks like Dei is getting something ready for him though, Shuppiden is a bit different then the original "run in, take the beating, get up, run in, and repeat" approach that Naruto used to win all his battles previously.
- The team Gai fights held a bit more energy this time around... especially Neji's battle. There was no trashy "backflip byakugan" this time, just intense hyuuga hand to hand. Really really cool, just reminded me why he's my favorite character. I hope they dedicate one episode to wrapping up Gai's fights, or two even.... or 1 for Neji himself.
- The pace in this episode was perfect. All the dialogue had a purpose, built on the story.
- The third kazekage! Sasori must be one hell of a tough guy. That said, the third makes a wicked badass looking puppet.
- Sasori: Got him perfect. THe arrogance, the evil light heartedness, everything. What a monster, entirely. Love him. Love to hate.
- Of course the battle at the end, Chiyo is doing all she can just to keep Sakura alive. That puppet does not dick around, the blades, the multiple arm summon... thats a really cool puppet. Too bad Kankouro doesn't have his own... (should probably start turning his opponents into puppets... remember Sakon and Ukon? They would've made good puppets with their abilities).
- Sakura afraid... but not crying... I think we can finally start putting some faith in her abilities.... although I guess Chiyo is doing all the work.
- Kankouro is badass... good to see him back on his feet.
- NEW SOUND TRACK!! YES!! Whatever was playing when Sasori rushed with the third was a wicked wicked song. Thankgod, about time.

Cons:
- Wierd perspectives, wierd animation at times. But really, this is nitpicking, it was a really well presented episode, really fluid, lots of energy.
- Naruto's "GOTTA RUSH" approach is starting to get old with time... the "new" "grown up" Naruto should be able to think a little more then that... hes fighting a long range fighter, obviously he is going to get a bomb in his face.
- I wouldn't have minded a little less team Temari running and a little more Team Gai fighting...
- Still miss some of the old tracks... at least give us more music...

General Thoughts
- shuppiden is finally starting to deliver IMO.
- Sasori is a kickass villian. The third kazekage is a kickass puppet. Sasori and Chiyo look a little undergunned right now.
- Next few weeks of episodes are going to be awesome. Awesome!! Next week is a special too right? Yessssssss

Screenshot of the week.
http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e177/fritzer7/vlcsnap-13340071.png


All that Steve said.

I haven't had time to read your summaries lately, unfortunately..

IMO this episode is definitely in the top 3 of Shippuuden.

Going to watch the episode again now ->

[Uchiha_Blaze]

Man i love how evil & arrogant Sasor is <3. They nailed it with his voice and everything gah im so happy. Anime only watchers & manga readers enjoy this fight, since it is prob one of the best fights in Naruto...

[NMK]

You pretty much told us that there ain't a lot more fights to get excited for.

But I do agree, the fight is pretty much as good as the fights in the 'Bring back Sasuke or something' arc.

[Uchiha_Blaze]

You pretty much told us that there ain't a lot more fights to get excited for.

But I do agree, the fight is pretty much as good as the fights in the 'Bring back Sasuke or something' arc.

I just said that this fight is the awesomest of all becaus im a Sasori fantard -.-

[LuCas]

Is this episode really that good for a person like me who is hard on episodes? I guess ill watch it tonight..

[NarutoNineTails]

Oh crap I'm gonna have to agree w/ samnas...my turn to cry...T_T lol.

Best shippuuden episode thus far imo. Truly caught me by surprise about the 3rd Kazekage being killed by Sasori! Sasori didn't look all that impressive to me up to shippuuden 20. If he can kill the strongest of the kazekages he better not disappoint. I have really high expectations now.

And I agree w/ others that the reason y Sasori looks so young is due to his relationship w/ Oro.

Now I see why the last anime episode w/ the needle dodging was so retarded. It was an attempt (poor attempt at that) to hide what Chiyo was doing imo. The evasive maneuvers that was done on the current episode was probably much more reflective of what Kishi was intending for the last episode too imo. But that would totally give away what was happening too. I still don't like how they handled the situation in ep. 20.

[Fabian_89]

@uchiha_blaze:

hmmm cant help it, i hate your spoiler sigs and avatars, and the way you are kinda spoiling in your posts ._.

[Thistle]

Now I see why the last anime episode w/ the needle dodging was so retarded. It was an attempt (poor attempt at that) to hide what Chiyo was doing imo. The evasive maneuvers that was done on the current episode was probably much more reflective of what Kishi was intending for the last episode too imo. But that would totally give away what was happening too. I still don't like how they handled the situation in ep. 20.

It`s 100% conversion from Manga to Anime (except that they lengthened the dodging-scene in Ep 20). Chapter 265 was used for Ep 20 and except for a small hint the explanation for the dodging follows in Chapter 266 which was used for this Ep (this time i`ve looked it up).

[steve]

I think what NNT is saying is that the anime team did a bad job of delivering ep 20 but 21 was more accurate.

[NarutoNineTails]

Kishi shows like 2 cuts of dodging after the cocoon thingy is fired (one w/ Sakura and one w/ Chiyo). We then see Sakura and Chiyo landing on their feet w/ the needles on the floor.

Animators had pretty much free reign on how to fill that gap and they did a horrendous job on episode 20 versus the current one is what I'm saying.

Edit:
I really do like Sasori's voice too. Surprised at how the Hiruko (spelling?) made him sounds so different.

[Thistle]

I really do like Sasori's voice too. Surprised at how the Hiruko (spelling?) made him sounds so different.

Perhaps Sasori`s victims keep their vocal cords and he used Hiruko`s original voice. Or it could be that they just didn`t want to give a hint at true Sasori. People would have wondered about his young voice.

[NMK]

I was wondering about that as well, and your theory does sound good Thistle.

I feel like posting a screenshot from the episode so what the heck:





http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i183/Nickecu/vlcsnap-641489.png

[samnas]

I was wondering about that as well, and your theory does sound good Thistle.

I feel like posting a screenshot from the episode so what the heck:


http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i183/Nickecu/vlcsnap-641489.png
Please, i am not at all in this pic ... and here is my previous post ...

And hey i noticed something odd, it can be an animation mistake or just that i have a bad eyesight, here's the pic of sasori's arm, there is a line on his arm, what is that line ...http://img503.imageshack.us/img503/2662/vlcsnap382774na3.png

[NMK]

"Please, i am not at all in this pic ..."

What the hell do you mean by that?

[samnas]

Please, i am not at all (interested) in this pic ..."


Sorry typo, kinda busy now ...

[Thistle]

Please, i am not at all (interested) in this pic ..."

I think that was not very nice but i`m just a Rookie *runs away and hides*
And Samnas does a good job...

It looks like there are cucumber growing out of the rock...

[Uchiha_Blaze]

@uchiha_blaze:

hmmm cant help it, i hate your spoiler sigs and avatars, and the way you are kinda spoiling in your posts ._.

My manga only sigs are under a SPOILER tab so you have nothing to complain about, and that first spoiler is from Bleach Anime (so not maga those guys appeared in the anime). And my avatar is pure fancrap.

[NMK]

Exactly, it even says manga only (well actually onley) sig! so I'd say you got yourself to blame if you open it.

Enough with the chitchat, if you wish to continue use the magical private message feature.

[Hiyo]

Actually Oro doesn't use a forbidden technique to change his looks does he? Stealing the body is forbidden but just changing his face wasn't was it? Tsunade does the same thing. So Sasori could be doing the same thing.

This morning I remember a 70s/80s horror flick about a Doll house and it reminded me of Sasori collecting people for puppets. If he turns out to be identical to the main villian in that movie his character is a total rip-off :P


[INDENT]Yeah yeah, you were right and i was wrong T_T

Why are you disagreeing with my speculation when you already know the outcome from reading the manga... :/

[Uchiha_Blaze]

O.o, i love puppets, i have to watch that movie :D. So whats the villain like in that movie ?

[NMK]

This is a far shot but maybe the black 'line' on his arm has something to do with it? But I still think Oro had something to do with the not aging part, remember that was 20 years ago. There's a big, well huge possibility that Sasori knows how to do it by himself NOW but I don't think he knew back then.. Oro ..

[Hiyo]

O.o, i love puppets, i have to watch that movie :D. So whats the villain like in that movie ?

I can't remember the name but it's about a few young couples that get stranged and find their way into an old mansion and take refuge for the night and end up getting attacked by puppets and the owners of the place end up killed and are puppets. And the little girl of the place is controlling the puppets.

There were a few movies like that in the 80s. Puppet Master, Amityville: dollhouse (96). I used to sneak downstairs to watch stuff like this at 1-2am. Scared the crap outta me.

[samnas]

Actually Oro doesn't use a forbidden technique to change his looks does he? Stealing the body is forbidden but just changing his face wasn't was it? Tsunade does the same thing. So Sasori could be doing the same thing.
He actually uses somekind of mask on his face to hide the real body's face ... but the jutsu he use to transfer his soul to another body is forbidden ... and tsunade's jutsu is something else, she is a medical genius, she figured out a way look young through his chakra ... i don't think that sasori is a medial nin ...
Why are you disagreeing with my speculation when you already know the outcome from reading the manga... :/
If i agree with you, then how come there will be discussions here ...

[Thistle]

Oro completed his jutsu after he left Konoha and he joined Akatzuki after he left Konoha. Or am i wrong? Sasori himself said that they were partners. Would they have shared secrets? Anyway Sasori seemed to enjoy seeing his Grandma so shocked.

[NMK]

Oro completed his jutsu after he left Konoha and he joined Akatzuki after he left Konoha. Or am i wrong? Sasori himself said that they were partners. Would they have shared secrets? Anyway Sasori seemed to enjoy seeing his Grandma so shocked.

That's what I think:

This is a far shot but maybe the black 'line' on his arm has something to do with it? But I still think Oro had something to do with the not aging part, remember that was 20 years ago. There's a big, well huge possibility that Sasori knows how to do it by himself NOW but I don't think he knew back then.. Oro ..

[Hiyo]

If i agree with you, then how come there will be discussions here ...


Swallow before you type.

If you know the answer you shouldn't be agreeing or disagreeing. Maybe ask other questions? Like what people thing of Sasori... or what peoples speculation is about how this or that happened? ;P


Dear NNT,

I apologize for anything I have said about manga readers posting in here. You were right. More anal again plz.

[samnas]

Swallow before you type.

If you know the answer you shouldn't be agreeing or disagreeing. Maybe ask other questions? Like what people thing of Sasori... or what peoples speculation is about how this or that happened? ;P
Actually i think that when you disagree with someone, you have to present some theory as to why you don't think that and this is where the discussions start ... And asking what people think of sasori will not raise a discussion ... and about the speculation i already posted a pic and asked what is this ...

And hey i noticed something odd, it can be an animation mistake or just that i have a bad eyesight, here's the pic of sasori's arm, there is a line on his arm, what is that line ...
http://img503.imageshack.us/img503/2662/vlcsnap382774na3.png

Dear NNT,

I apologize for anything I have said about manga readers posting in here. You were right. More anal again plz.
ehem ...

Ok, i see ...

[NMK]

Doesn't matter if you post a theory combined with "a agree/disagree" cause if you're a manga reader you know for a fact what is going to happen, so when you agree or disagree you take the ability to discuss it away from us others who doesn't read the manga, or do but can discuss without spoiling, like Steve.

[Hiyo]

I never saw that when I watched the episode. Now that you pointed it out i'm 100% convinced Sasori is a puppet. Maybe Oro learned how to body jump from Sasori. Or the other way around.

[NarutoNineTails]

samnas knows too much now...rofl rofl. Banning isn't enough. Watch your back samnas. ;)

[samnas]

Doesn't matter if you post a theory combined with "a agree/disagree" cause if you're a manga reader you know for a fact what is going to happen, so when you agree or disagree you take the ability to discuss it away from us others who doesn't read the manga, or do but can discuss without spoiling, like Steve.I think that when is agree/disagree with someone with a theory i actually ask a theory from the other side also and if its reasonable i will agree with that person ... and i think that steve also does the same as i do ...

I never saw that when I watched the episode. Now that you pointed it out i'm 100% convinced Sasori is a puppet. Maybe Oro learned how to body jump from Sasori. Or the other way around.What the, you didn't noticed, i posted this pic two times before in this thread ... and how can you be so sure that sasori is a puppet, to me it looked like that only his hand is like a puppet, his face is clearly human like plus his eyes also ... Well oro was sasori's partner so it could be possible ...
samnas knows too much now...rofl rofl. Banning isn't enough. Watch your back samnas. ;)
Hey, i didn't spoiled anything ... let me go ...

[NarutoNineTails]

I'm commenting about the anal part. I'm not banning u. :P

[Hiyo]

I think that when is agree/disagree with someone with a theory i actually ask a theory from the other side also and if its reasonable i will agree with that person ... and i think that steve also does the same as i do ...

You know the truth. Disagreeing with someones good agrument and spamming with something else in an attempt to get more people talking it laaaaaaaaaaame. Especially doing it when you find out the truth in the next episode. I never read Steves post, I'd msn him for his opinion instead. STOP DOING IT STEVE! ;P

What the, you didn't noticed, i posted this pic two times before in this thread ... and how can you be so sure that sasori is a puppet, to me it looked like that only his hand is like a puppet, his face is clearly human like plus his eyes also ... Well oro was sasori's partner so it could be possible ...

I rarely bother to read anything you post... unless you quote me. ;P

[NarutoNineTails]

If I feel like that any manga reader is not selective in the way they choose their words VERY carefully when discussing what will happen in future shippuuden. They will hear from me.

[samnas]

I'm commenting about the anal part. I'm not banning u. :P-_- it was a sarcasm ... and what, are you serious about that anal part ...You know the truth. Disagreeing with someones good agrument and spamming with something else in an attempt to get more people talking it laaaaaaaaaaame. Especially doing it when you find out the truth in the next episode. I never read Steves post, I'd msn him for his opinion instead. STOP DOING IT STEVE! ;P




I rarely bother to read anything you post... unless you quote me. ;PIts kinda getting offtopic, so i will leave it here ...You don't read my posts but you always do read NNT's posts, why am i so so useless to you ... So from now on, i will always quote you ;) ...

If I feel like that any manga reader is not selective in the way they choose their words VERY carefully when discussing what will happen in future shippuuden. They will hear from me.Ossu, but i would like to hear some jazz ...
so we stop the non-topic discussions:
u might be hearing more than jazz at this rate. You can ask Hiyo for a clue if u want...lol. ;)

Edit by samnas
You seem scary ...

[Hiyo]

See i missed the second part of

What the, you didn't noticed, i posted this pic two times before in this thread ... and how can you be so sure that sasori is a puppet, to me it looked like that only his hand is like a puppet, his face is clearly human like plus his eyes also ... Well oro was sasori's partner so it could be possible ..


too.

Let's see... he hasn't changed at all sense he was a kid. That means he is either a dwarf that changed his face to look the same, or he transferred into a younger body and changed his face, or (as in the movie i mentioned before) he collects a crapload of puppets and in the end he's like the super puppet.

Dwarfs stink and have stubby fingers... wouldn't make for a very good puppateer (whatever).

He could have just copied Oro's technique. But that's Oro thing.. and it'd be lame if two people can do it.

Or he's really a puppet. He clearly has a puppet fetish, he's able to collect humans somehow as puppets, he hung around Oro so he likes knows how to transfer his soul into another body. So he probably made a super puppet and put himself into it. That way he doesn't age.

Then there is this:

http://img509.imageshack.us/img509/4368/snapshot20070727193025xj9.jpg

Maybe its just a flesh-tone shirt?

[NarutoNineTails]

or Sasori asked Oro to put his soul into his "own puppet"? That could be another possibility.

[samnas]

Or he's really a puppet. He clearly has a puppet fetish, he's able to collect humans somehow as puppets, he hung around Oro so he likes knows how to transfer his soul into another body. So he probably made a super puppet and put himself into it. That way he doesn't age.

Then there is this:

http://img509.imageshack.us/img509/4368/snapshot20070727193025xj9.jpg

Maybe its just a flesh-tone shirt?
Now this is what i say a good eyesight, nice catch, now i have to agree that sasori's soul could be in a puppet ... but still its hard to believe that beneath this cool looking face, a wooden puppet is hidden ...or Sasori asked Oro to put his soul into his "own puppet"? That could be another possibility.
This is also a possibility as oro could be the one who created that jutsu, so he helped him a little to transfer his soul into a puppet ...

[Uchiha_Blaze]

@ Samnas, On the pic u postet eralyer with the red arrows pointing to the circle on the arm, theres clearly visable that Sasori has a stripe thing around his neck too. So i guess u have bad eyes :p

[NarutoNineTails]

Sasori is LIAR! 3rd kazekage is not his favorite puppet. Kishimoto trying to pull another fast one on us...lol.

[Thistle]

Umm, noob question: can a soul produce chakra? I thought that a Shinobi needs a physical body to produce chakra...

[Uchiha_Blaze]

Umm, noob question: can a soul produce chakra? I thought that a Shinobi needs a physical body to produce chakra...

I don't think a soul can produce chackra...the body of flesh and bones produces chackra..like it produces blood, chackra is the energy that the body produces.

[samnas]

Sasori is LIAR! 3rd kazekage is not his favorite puppet. Kishimoto trying to pull another fast one on us...lol.
Well 3rd kazekage is his favourite puppet, he said it himself that it was quite difficult for him to own him and thats why he is my favourite ...
Umm, noob question: can a soul produce chakra? I thought that a Shinobi needs a physical body to produce chakra...
Good question, well i don't think that soul can produce chakra, thats why a physical body is required for it ... if soul can produce chakra, oro would never use someone else's body and remain in his soul form and he will be immortal ...

[Fabian_89]

My manga only sigs are under a SPOILER tab so you have nothing to complain about, and that first spoiler is from Bleach Anime (so not maga those guys appeared in the anime). And my avatar is pure fancrap.

Like a week ago, there werent any spoiler tags >.> ur ava.. pure fancrap lol pure manga fancrap -.- just look at his forhead protector nice -.-

b2t: imo sasori is a puppet since hes something like the "puppetmaster"

[Uchiha_Blaze]

Like a week ago, there werent any spoiler tags >.> ur ava.. pure fancrap lol pure manga fancrap -.- just look at his forhead protector nice -.-

b2t: imo sasori is a puppet since hes something like the "puppetmaster"

How do u know its manga fancrap...do you read the manga ? If so you have nothing to bitch about. NNT already pmed me and he agreed to put my sigs under the spoiler tag and to keep my avatar since is ''homemade''. Its pure fancrapshit. Besides ur the only one that ever bugged me about it. If u hate my avatar for an uknown reason then fine, il get rid of it but ul have to make me another one.

Oh and he's a puppet because hes a puppetmaster >.>...?! wtf.

[Hiyo]

I don't think a soul can produce chackra...the body of flesh and bones produces chackra..like it produces blood, chackra is the energy that the body produces.

Ya chakra is physical energy + mental energy that contains the technique (I guess that's how it's explained). The soul in Oros case contains all his memories so that'd only have the techniques.

If he is a puppet I guess he'd either be a flesh puppet (gross and weird) or just have something that creates physical energy? Beats me. Maybe he isnt a puppet afterall :P

[V.VELDANEN]

Anybody else finds the following to be a Sakura's pic of hotness?

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b204/veldanen/vlcsnap-428518.png


Awesome episode :D to be sure!

And Ten-Ten is absolutely adorable at the end...!

[NarutoNineTails]

How do u know its manga fancrap...do you read the manga ? If so you have nothing to bitch about. NNT already pmed me and he agreed to put my sigs under the spoiler tag and to keep my avatar since is ''homemade''. Its pure fancrapshit. Besides ur the only one that ever bugged me about it. If u hate my avatar for an uknown reason then fine, il get rid of it but ul have to make me another one.

Oh and he's a puppet because hes a puppetmaster >.>...?! wtf.

I also said if another anime only watcher notices what you r doing, I would have to ask you to change your avatar too. If you just kept your mouth shut instead of verifying what fabian was arguing about it would have served you much better. I'll give you till next day to change the avatar now.

[Uchiha_Blaze]

That was clearly main character no jutsu on that pic, so much tubes but none hit her.

[NarutoNineTails]

Umm, noob question: can a soul produce chakra? I thought that a Shinobi needs a physical body to produce chakra...

Very good question. I guess for the current speculation (that Sasori's young appearance is due to Sasori himself being a "puppet") to hold true, the puppet has to have physical parts. Then again dead organs would not create chakra either...hmm.

Would it be possible to have only portions of your limbs becoming puppet like including the head? Can the soul itself keep the organs functioning without a brain? If so, chakra could be made in this fashion imo. Sounds a bit far fetched though.

[Thistle]

Would it be possible to have only portions of your limbs becoming puppet like including the head? Can the soul itself keep the organs functioning without a brain? If so, chakra could be made in this fashion imo. Sounds a bit far fetched though.

Not that far fetched for me. I think he would need those organic parts which produce chakra and keep the organism alive, meaning basically he could at least replace his limbs and move them with chakra. Would be nice to hide some weapons. Didn`t we see him use chakra strings? That means that chakra flows through his arms and hands.

If vital organs are missing then i would like to hear a good explanation for it. But he must be a real pervert. Who wants to be like Robocop?

But Deidara is a walking anomaly with mouths in his hands. I`ve always wondered how he got them.

[Hiyo]

You need human cells to get the physical energy. So he'd need a fully functional body... not just random pieces. You cells dry up or something when they are cut off from the rest of your body. They definitely wouldn't produce/store energy. If he is a puppet he'd have to have some other source. Maybe that's why he collects puppets. Extracts their physical energy and uses it. Although that still doesn't really make sense... cause using just what is there isn't the same as having your own body and eatting food to produce more. But if he's a puppet it'd be a super puppet that could do stuff like that.

[Thistle]

So you think that every part of him, or at least his vitals, have to be organic?

I`m not that much of a theorist. I need good explanations how thinks work but unfortunately the Narutoverse doesn`t always deliver them.

As i said i`m hoping for a logical explanation if he is a puppet.

Sorry in my timezone it`s in the middle of the night and i have to leave. I will return to this discussion tomorrow. It`s interesting.

[Hiyo]

Well the explaination at the start of the series said chakra is made of the physical energy in the body molded together with the mental aspect.. like the knowledge of the technique.

Assuming you eat to replenish the energy, you'd need certain parts to get new energy. If you just had limbs you'd use up all that energy and be left with no way to get more energy to those cells.

[NarutoNineTails]

I think u misunderstood me Hiyo. I'm saying that the torso (where all the vital organs are except the brain) would have to be living. Thus I asked the question, is it possible to keep that torso alive w/ just the soul (and without the brain) in Narutoverse.

[Greenlitflag]

I'm glad that anime-watchers are finally getting to see how awesome sasori is. He's probably my favorite akatsuki member. Anywho, aside from some quick shots, the animation in this episode (especially the team gai fights) was really good. I was really pleased with this episode.

[LuCas]

I still haven't watched this episode yet haha but I will in about 30 minutes or so. All this good positive comments about the episode is hyping me up. I hope I didn't jinx it. (Don't really care if I get spoiled my stupid ass friend already told me what happened)

[Hiyo]

I think u misunderstood me Hiyo. I'm saying that the torso (where all the vital organs are except the brain) would have to be living. Thus I asked the question, is it possible to keep that torso alive w/ just the soul (and without the brain) in Narutoverse.

I didn't read anything you posted. Just what the guy above me posted :P
But I don't believe in souls so I dunno. IMO the "soul" being transfered would have to be held in some type of brain (organic or mechanic or wooden) But if you can make a wooden brain he'd probably have found a way to make all the vital organs outta wood too :P

Maybe he's just a woody with some type of chakra infused to make it function and store energy?

It seems a little far fetched to me if he ends up a puppet and he has human tissue inside. That's pretty gross and would make him nearly if not more vulernable. Wood would light up faster then flesh! (unless bodily oils would make your body burn faster.. beats me).

[V.VELDANEN]

I noticed Kankurou was carrying a single marionette instead of the three giant scrolls...an error? Or has kankurou lost all of his puppets?

Interesting to see how it would turn out.

[steve]

I think his puppets were destroyed... probably operating now on a minimum roster...

[Genius]

yeah.. sasori turned his body into a puppet is the most reasonable explanation for a freak like him

and he also said in a few episodes back he collects organs for his puppets so thats probably how he collects chakra

[Fabian_89]

hmmm maybe its just like kankouro did before? In and after the chuunin exams, he used to carry his realy body on his back, while fighting in a "puppetform"...

dunno...

[LuCas]

Man, the intelligence of your guys predictions and eyes to see the lines already on sasori is too far, you guys are no fun >:[ it would have been funner if no one knew about it and I just start to know after watching the next episode, lol. oh well, freakin smart people. You guys seem 100% correct too, I think he is really a puppet. For some reason when someone here always predicts/speculates/guesses on something its always true in the upcoming episodes like every time, im just gonna believe it and say sasori is a puppet now :D you guys should help me on my math homework or something. (and no I know some guy is going to misunderstood my past post about knowing whats going to happen. I meant my stupidass friend told me what happens in this episode so I don't know if he really is a puppet, and I am not a manger reader either) but with all these different opinions on sasori I think I agree with it now.

[SalsaShark]

Lol at Sasori saying, "look what else I have up my sleeve" and he literally has the 3rd scroll up his sleeve.

[LuCas]

Lol at Sasori saying, "look what else I have up my sleeve" and he literally has the 3rd scroll up his sleeve.



Lol haha wow sasori is too cool.

edit: Hmm this episode introduced a new music in the end when sasori fought sakura/chiyo, I loved it! The fighting was good too, it was pretty fast like it SHOULD have been the last 15 episodes! lol. I hope sasori doesn't die, he looks too badass.

[Kyuubi No Yoko]

good episode, chiyo puppeting sakura is funny...

Action was pretty well animated so i hope they keep it up for the upcoming episodes

special on next week :)

[LuCas]

Hey, I just noticed there will be a new season in about a month. Next week will be episode 23, then 3 more weeks and new opening already.
Hopefully everything will become good in the 2nd season.

[Narusukashi]

Some predictions can be common sense, others are just manga readers trying to make it look as if it's a prediction. That's just my opinion.

Anyways.. this episode was OK. I still don't like the fact that they have that filler chick still, but the next episode looks promising. This was a great fight in the manga, so I hope they don't disappoint with the anime version.

[Lorden Darkblade]

I liked this episode.
Sasori is very cool but I liked his voice when he was using Hiruko...
Dunno, sounded more evil lol...
Can't wait for next week's episode!!!

[cryinthewilderness]

there's always another option guys, that somehow the "puppet" sasori is in reality a puppet but the real sasori is somewhere else controlling that puppet which controls the other puppet. like wat Itachi did when fighting team kakashi. he wasnt near there at all but he was still using chakra normally and using normal techniques.

[Hiyo]

That's possible. Although from what we've seen with puppets they require strings to control them. Extra long strings from far away while in a cave and still controlling the puppet would be awkward.

[Thistle]

there's always another option guys, that somehow the "puppet" sasori is in reality a puppet but the real sasori is somewhere else controlling that puppet which controls the other puppet. like wat Itachi did when fighting team kakashi. he wasnt near there at all but he was still using chakra normally and using normal techniques.

Nice idea. Chiyo recognized her grandsons face and said that he looked the same as 20 years ago. So it could be that this is indeed not the real Sasori but a puppet using a puppet.

[samnas]

Nice idea. Chiyo recognized her grandsons face and said that he looked the same as 20 years ago. So it could be that this is indeed not the real Sasori but a puppet using a puppet.
But the real question is, if he is controling that puppet from somewhere, how is he doing that and also we didn't see any chakra strings, so this means that his chakra strings are nearly invisible ...

[cryinthewilderness]

well if grandma chiyo could supress her chakra strings to the point that sasori couldnt tell they were there, then how muhc more do u think sasori would be able to supress his, after all, he was powerful enough to kill the 3rd. im sure it wudnt be too hard for him to do.

[Hiyo]

well if grandma chiyo could supress her chakra strings to the point that sasori couldnt tell they were there, then how muhc more do u think sasori would be able to supress his, after all, he was powerful enough to kill the 3rd. im sure it wudnt be too hard for him to do.

Ya I agree. I wouldn't be surprised if he had long range puppetry. Or maybe he has a more advanced technique to control chakra already in the puppet from afar and then that puppet is just using chakra strings.

[samnas]

I got an idea, remember Gaara, he used one of his eye when he goes to his ultimate defense ... his eye outside and he himself inside of that big sand ball, its a kind of wireless communication :) ...

What if sasori is also doing the same, i mean, if he has some kind of seal attacted to the puppets body and he is controling them from far away ... he can see through the puppets eyes, hear through puppets ears, etc ...

And also the shouten jutsu was like that, itachi and kisame controlling their puppets from far away ...

[Hiyo]

Nice speculation... I guess they still haven't ended this battle and revealed Sasoris true self yet in the manga? I guess i'll have lots of time to get a liking to him now.

[samnas]

Nice speculation... I guess they still haven't ended this battle and revealed Sasoris true self yet in the manga? I guess i'll have lots of time to get a liking to him now.
Do you really mean manga? or anime? ...

Anyways as an anime only watcher, do you have any kind of speculation? ... and liking a person or not depends on your tastes ...

[Genius]

who knows guys... hes the one that created the whole puppet stuff right? he can pretty much do the max

[Hiyo]

Do you really mean manga? or anime? ...

Anyways as an anime only watcher, do you have any kind of speculation? ... and liking a person or not depends on your tastes ...


Since you read the manga and are speculating on his true form I have to assume it has yet to be revealed in there.

[LuCas]

It is kind of cool that chiyo is controlling sakura like a puppet right now, I hope they do the next episode correctly.
Chiyo pulling sakura back when the 3rd kazekage puppet first rushed in was sexy.

[skuzzel]

best ship EPS yet


I dont think sasori is controlling "himself" from a long way off. Yes this is possible but that would be an impossible technique to do while the person is watching, so you could only use it when they come to attack you and you have time to prepare for the fight. Yes that happens, but for sasori? That probably happens once every 20 or so fights for him. I doubt he would study a technique with such limited application. It probably is something more along the lines of what kank did during the chunnin exams, being there but "not" being there, like hes inside it or something, or he actully figured out a way to become a puppet.

Random speckulation though, I have not read the Manga, so maybe your right. But if you are, I will be disappointed that Naruto would use such an unlikely plot device to explain that.

[i_feel_tiredsleepy]

who knows guys... hes the one that created the whole puppet stuff right? he can pretty much do the max

No he said himself that Chiyo taught him how to "play with dolls".

[samnas]

Since you read the manga and are speculating on his true form I have to assume it has yet to be revealed in there.
Since i am a manga reader and also an anime watcher, i don't speculate the manga stuff in the anime center :P ... i differentiate between both of them and currently i am in the anime center not manga center ...
best ship EPS yet

I dont think sasori is controlling "himself" from a long way off. Yes this is possible but that would be an impossible technique to do while the person is watching, so you could only use it when they come to attack you and you have time to prepare for the fight. Yes that happens, but for sasori? That probably happens once every 20 or so fights for him. I doubt he would study a technique with such limited application. It probably is something more along the lines of what kank did during the chunnin exams, being there but "not" being there, like hes inside it or something, or he actully figured out a way to become a puppet.

Random speckulation though, I have not read the Manga, so maybe your right. But if you are, I will be disappointed that Naruto would use such an unlikely plot device to explain that.
Good points there skuzzel, i like you points, (this is called discussion), I will agree with you that it doesn't look like sasori is controlling himself from a long range, it looks pretty much that he is present over there ... I would agree with what kank did at the chuunin thing and could be that sasori is also doing the same here ...

Don't worry guys naruto will not dissappoint you, all we have to do is wait and watch ...

[Hiyo]

[INDENT]Since i am a manga reader and also an anime watcher, i don't speculate the manga stuff in the anime center :P ... i differentiate between both of them and currently i am in the anime center not manga center ...

Well if the truth has been revealed in the manga, you aren't differentiating anything. You're just spamming stuff that doesn't matter cause it doesn't happen. Or you are spamming... which of course you wouldn't do.

[KageNaruto]

Since you read the manga and are speculating on his true form I have to assume it has yet to be revealed in there.

You know what "to assume" does to people don't you?

That battle ended nearly 100 chapters ago if you must know.

Manga readers really have to stop fake-speculating.

[samnas]

Well if the truth has been revealed in the manga, you aren't differentiating anything. You're just spamming stuff that doesn't matter cause it doesn't happen. Or you are spamming... which of course you wouldn't do.
You didn't get me, i want to say that when i watch anime, i completely forget what happens in the manga and i only discuss from anime point of view ...

Spamming?? i am actually creating discussions here, not spamming, and from your post, you are actually trying to say that manga readers should not post in the anime section, if they do it will be considered as a spam ... Sorry to say Hiyo but you are wrong, look at your previous three post, you are the actually one who is spamming here not me, and skuzzel actually read my post and gave his reasons why he don't agree with me and after reading his post i agreed with him, these are called discussions ... And this is exactly what we do in the manga sections, one person says something and the other will prove it wrong by giving his own reasons ...

And if NNT says that i am spamming here, i will never post in the anime section again ...

[NarutoNineTails]

It seems like the argument is just getting started...I'm getting the popcorn ready samnas...why u asking me to step in? hahaha

Even though it is almost impossible to do what you said here: "i completely forget what happens in the manga and i only discuss from anime point of view ..."...I do think samnas is careful about what he says in this section.

What I would suggest is that manga readers not be the ones who initiates a speculation. Manga readers can pick up foreshadowing clues from the anime LOT MORE easier (I hope I don't have to explain this statement) and something that could have went unnoticed might be brought up unnecessarily by a manga reader this way. Sounds fair enough?

[samnas]

It seems like the argument is just getting started...I'm getting the popcorn ready samnas...why u asking me to step in? hahaha
Sorry to spoil your fun NNT, i know you were enjoying this, but we do need a referee here to keep everything in check ...
Even though it is almost impossible to do what you said here: "i completely forget what happens in the manga and i only discuss from anime point of view ..."...I do think samnas is careful about what he says in this section.
I agree its impossible to forget once you know what is happening but i do try my best to not spoil the fun here ... and this is exactly what Regina did when she was active ...
What I would suggest is that manga readers not be the ones who initiates a speculation. Manga readers can pick up foreshadowing clues from the anime LOT MORE easier (I hope I don't have to explain this statement) and something that could have went unnoticed might be brought up unnecessarily by a manga reader this way. Sounds fair enough?
And i did the same, read this post (http://forum.narutochaos.com/showpost.php?p=407042&postcount=23) of mine, i posted one of the pic of sasori's arm and asked people what is this and after that when people started speculating different things i also put some of my speculations on the table, just to give some more ideas ...

But from now on i will not speculate at all, and i will just post some hidden clues from the anime and let the anime people speculate on it ...

[NarutoNineTails]

I think some of the anime folks were pissed because you posted that pic first. It is a detail that could have very well been unnoticed. I would suggest you wait even further before presenting "clues" like that.

Edit:
And I was being sarcastic again about the popcorn statement. If I really wanted to see the argument go on I would have ended my previous post after my first sentence.

[samnas]

I think some of the anime folks were pissed because you posted that pic first. It is a detail that could have very well been unnoticed. I would suggest you wait even further before presenting "clues" like that.Agreed, from now onwards i will wait for two to three days after the episode is released and then i will try to post some hidden "clues", if there are any ...

And I was being sarcastic again about the popcorn statement. If I really wanted to see the argument go on I would have ended my previous post after my first sentence.I know you were being sarcastic there, lol, you think that i can't understand you and your posts ;) ... actually i was also being sarcastic there :rolleyes: ...

[NarutoNineTails]

Sorry to spoil your fun NNT, i know you were enjoying this, but we do need a referee here to keep everything in check ...



I would say I'm pretty good at picking up sarcasm but you did a real good job of hiding it there samnas. :P

[Thistle]

I also don`t want this discussion to continue, but please allow me to say this:

Please samnas don`t post any possible clues which you find at all. I know that you are very observant but the line between being smart and spoiling is very thin.

[samnas]

I also don`t want this discussion to continue, but please allow me to say this:


Please samnas don`t post any possible clues which you find at all. I know that you are very observant but the line between being smart and spoiling is very thin.Why do you say that, i never spoiled here, only once and was caught by Regina and was given a warning, and after that i am very careful ...I want to say something in the anime section also, i watch the episodes so i have to say something, i don't want to just discuss on the animation, music and the art ...Oh man...please let us stop this. I`m not saying that you are spoiling. But you are spoiling my fun. When i saw that pic i absolutely hated it.

I would also like to talk about more than just animation and music, but i`m as careful as hell in here.

I want to discuss the episode with the few remaining anime-only watchers, not because i know more than them. But if there are more "possible hints" like that in the future i will leave the anime section.



I will try to send you a PM if you think that you still don`t understand what i`m trying to say, but i`ve never done this before. But perhaps you get it ;)Fine, you have my words, no more speculation and clues from me, just a little bit of discussion where necessary ... Happy now ...

@ Hiyo and NMK: i said this above, and i will repeat it, from now on no more speculations and hidden clues from me, only few (very few) discussions where i think that its necessary ...

[Thistle]

Oh man...please let us stop this. I`m not saying that you are spoiling. But you are spoiling my fun. When i saw that pic i absolutely hated it.

I would also like to talk about more than just animation and music, but i`m as careful as hell in here.

I want to discuss the episode with the few remaining anime-only watchers, not because i know more than them. But if there are more "possible hints" like that in the future i will leave the anime section.

I will try to send you a PM if you think that you still don`t understand what i`m trying to say, but i`ve never done this before. But perhaps you get it ;)



samnas: no i don`t feel happy. Please continue to speculate and don`t withdraw from this section. Please just be careful. I know you will...

[Hiyo]

Agreed with the last few posters. Don't speculate on stuff you already know the answer to and don't put out clues for those of us that don't know. If you know the deal with Sasori you shouldn't be telling us, or leading us with clues, or making up random speculation just for the sake of posting. Like someone said... some anime viewer find it annoying.

[NMK]

samnas, like Thistle just said don't back out of the discussions, just make sure you don't give us those hidden clues. Steve for example, the way he puts his arguments and such it's hard to tell that he's a manga reader.

[cryinthewilderness]

how bout u all just stop arguing?? u guys arguing is more annoying than pointing out little details...

[steve]

ahh but we argue because we love!!

[NMK]

how bout u all just stop arguing?? u guys arguing is more annoying than pointing out little details...

You haven't even contributed anything to the discussion, and you tell us to stop discuss? It might be a bit off topic but it's better than Nothing at all imo.

I'd like for us all to go back on topic though ^_^;

Edit:

Does anyone know if its this Thursday/Friday the new episode is released or the one after that?

[Fabian_89]

its this thursday/friday ;)

cant wait for it yay :D

[NarutoNineTails]

how bout u all just stop arguing?? u guys arguing is more annoying than pointing out little details...

If you stated that the discussion that was going on was not to your liking then I think it would have been fine but who do you think u r to tell others to stop arguing? Arguing about what can be discussed in this section of NC seems plenty important topic to talk about imo. :P

[NMK]

its this thursday/friday ;)

cant wait for it yay :D

Are you sure Fabian? Cause in the Preview for Shippuuden 22 it said "Special" so I suppose it's a 40min episode. We usually have to wait 2 weeks for them.. Or was Shippuuden 21 released two weeks ago? I can't remember.

[Fabian_89]

yep, i watched the preview. It's going to be out at thursday 2nd august, and thats this week ;)

/edit: btw. the last ep was released last week ;D

[the killer Uchiha]

its this thursday/friday ;)

cant wait for it yay :D

neither can i its a special this week right?

[NMK]

I just said that, one post before the one you quoted mate.

[Fabian_89]

... okay, next ep is gonna be a special and its gonna be this week :D

I really wanna know if naruto will be able to fight deidara. imo this will be hard for him.

[the killer Uchiha]

I just said that, one post before the one you quoted mate.

really my bad i didnt feel like looking back i was being lazy

[Thistle]

I really wanna know if naruto will be able to fight deidara. imo this will be hard for him.

Deidara defeated Gaara with a trick, not with strength. Naruto has Kakashi with him and is pretty angry. If he doesn`t rush in he might stand a chance. It all depends on getting Deidara from the air, i`d say. If they get him down and Naruto manages a hit with Oodama Rasengan then Deidara is gone...

[Hiyo]

Tactics are a strength too.

[Fabian_89]

Tactics are a strength too.

ye, but imo dei cant fight every openent, cause he cant conter every people jutsus just like gaaras... and gaara would have won if he had only been more careful :/

cant wait for this fight

[Thistle]

Yes, but you know what i mean. Deidara relied on tactics to defeat Gaara, i bet in overall stength Kakashi + Naruto are a match for him. He admitted that Sasori is stronger than him, it this is right then hopefully Naruto and Kakashi got the easier fight. It`s two against one, right?

[Petronus]

I'm not so sure they have the easier fight for their styles though. I mean.. it is definitely good that Granny Chiyo fought Sasori, just because she has the knowledge and similar skill set to match-up with him. Kakashi and Naruto can't fly. That is Deidara's greatest strength here. Other than Gaara, I really can't think of anyone that would match up well against him.

There are also a lot of unknowns. Naruto has learned a lot of new techniques so maybe he has a way to fly or catch Dei. We haven't seen Dei use any Taijutsu yet... just fly and throw bombs. I would be excited to see him fight up close and personal. Either way.. I am really excited about the next episode! :D

[Thistle]

Nice post Petronus, i can agree with that.

One more person to post in the anime section, and has anybody said hello to you?

[Petronus]

:o Nah, but that is ok. I am really more of a reader. Thanks though.

Soooooo pumped for Thursday!!!! hehehe.

[steve]

you're from bend.or.

[Petronus]

Uhhhh, yep. ???

[Hiyo]

Deidaras bombs are limited by the amount of clay he carries too. Sasori even commented on him taking half of what he should have. He had a plan an executed it. Can assume he is weaker just because he used a tactic that works. There wasn't really an option for him to fight Gaara man to man. He had to draw him out and defeat him in a way that wouldn't let him get caught by the other ninjas. Aside from transporting Gaara around we haven't seen him use the bird outside the fight with Gaara. For all we know he might not even use the bird to fight Naruto.

[Thistle]

You are right, Deidara had a plan how to fight Gaara but he only managed to defeat him with desperate measures. He himself said that Gaara was stronger than expected and do you think he planned to lose an arm just to mix his bombs with Gaara`s sand?

And Deidara probably knows nothing about Naruto. He asked Itachi about it, remember? So his best option right now is to keep his distance until he knows the range of his adversaries.

And Naruto and Kakashi are both strong at close range and have to get close to Deidara. If they do so, i say that Deidara will most probably be defeated.

[Hiyo]

NNT made a good comment in another thread I think about Naruto maybe using the kyuubi arm he had during the naruto/sasuke fight. Using that to grab Deidara. Or I thought to propel himself too. I'm sure Kakashi has lots of skills up his sleeves to get at deidara.

[Thistle]

In their fight against the Itachi clone Kakashi thought something up and Naruto delivered the blow. Hopefully something like that happens again. Using the Kyuubi chakra to grab Deidara would serve him well though, he wanted another fight with a Jinchuuriki, didn`t he? But we have to wait a litte bit longer...

[LuCas]

For some reason, I am too hyped up for shipuuden 22, wtf O_O
This is like how I felt on naruto part 1 when I couldn't wait to see the next episode.
I think shippuuden is getting to me now. They better not disappoint me, its only the beginning of making me hyped up!
Its coming out tomorrow!

[Uchiha_Blaze]

Oh man i cannot belive it that im hyped for a Shippuden episode...i just luuuv Sasori (<3 <3 <3), i hope the animation is gonna be great this time, not just good but great.

[Kratos]

This was a good episode. There was a little too much talking but the awesomeness of the Third Kazekage puppet makes up for it. I also can't wait for the one hour special.

[mohamoud15]

I liked this episode it was fast and not boring. I though the stroy of the kazehokage will be boring but ti was short and okayed it well when sasori released it. I hope the special is this good.

[NarutoNineTails]

kazekage...not kazehokage.

Kazehokage= kage of both sand and leaf...lol.