Naruto Shippuuden 006 - 007

[regina777]

Episodes 006 & 007 will be released in Jpn. on 03/29/2007
== No episode next week the 22nd



I have been hearing reports of an episode next week- if it so happens then that is just groovy!!!



EDIT

Okay- i merged the thread somebody started with the announcement thread.
Please dont forget to post all Download adn Release Links with some Thanks in the Latest Anime & Manga Release section.
In this thread - Clicky Here (http://forum.narutochaos.com/showthread.php?t=10898)

[Lukasz]

Episode 006 has been released by Dattebayo. i thought it was next week.

it is YHBT
meaning you had been trolled.

it is a fake.

[lkrfn5283]

Hey,

Dattebayo just released naruto shippuuden 006! :) Werid timing... downloading it now i'll post back if it's the actual episode:cool:

yeah, isn't shippuuden 006 supposed to be a one hour special? it's supposed to be 006 & 007 released at the same time

[vegita625]

yeah, isn't shippuuden 006 supposed to be a one hour special? it's supposed to be 006 & 007 released at the same time

Not to mention that the next episode is supposed to air later this week, which shoulda been the first clue...

[NarutoNineTails]

I'll just keep this alive and merge/sticky it once 006/007 does come out.

[Kyuubi No Yoko]

I bet is either pitagoras switch renamed or the 2nd episode of the series 5 centimeters per second or something like that

[NMK]

For those who didn't know.

If you're downloading new releases from Dattebayo remember to ONLY download if it's [DB]. YHBT means You Have Been Trolled.

You can download the [A-H] files too though, it's Dattebayo's previous name .. Anime Heaven.

[steve]

I have downloaded every YHBT
and everyone else should too
sometimes they are really funny

[andrewc513]

After watching this fake episode, I just now noticed an animation error.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v126/andrewc513/animationerrorkakashi.jpg

[NMK]

I've mentioned this many times, it's not an animation error.

Kakashi's expression = O_O

There is a Sharingan, it's just hard to see it.

[rkappiyo]

It's not an animation error, if you look closely, his two eyes are different colors. The one on his left (our right) is slightly brighter than the other one because it is the sharingan.

[Kyuubi No Yoko]

Yeah thats old discussion , just compare the 2 eyes they are way different, he has sharingan.

[vegita625]

Yea, you try drawing an eye that small, making 3 comma-like symbols in the correct spot on the eye, also drawn smaller by the same scale, as well as the pupil, and other sharingan-specific designs also drawn to scale, and realize that, on it's own, how much it looks like a sharingan. Deal with it, it's so tiny that you wouldn't be able to tell without the other eye for comparison, doesn't mean it's wrong.

[Uchiha_Blaze]

no raw yet huh ?

[UndrDog]

Good work rkappiyo. Thanks.

EDIT: Hmm, well they are progressing well I suppose. Just a tad emo over how slowly it's going. It looks like things are finally in motion though.

[Lost Prophet]

hmm, the sub out yet for these eps? I haven't watched anime in weeks...

[Hellchild915]

sd should have it out in about 3 hours and db in about 5hours

maybe longer because they are longer ep's

[Uchiha_Blaze]

man i hope this ep will be 90% like in the manga and 10% just some crap, not like b4 50% manga things and 50% made up things :(,

[Hellchild915]

No they are sticking to the manga every well and it should be every much alike

[regina777]

Please Post all Download and Release links in the release thread!!!

[sharingan_user]

well, once again, i'm really disappointed with studio pierrot :(
episode 6 = pure crap, horrible animation....
episode 7= cool episode, nice animation...
the pace is still very slow, but i can deal with it...
i just found, that the old animators are working in bleach right now...they must return to naruto, cuz this koreans suck too much....

[-RX-]

Where could i download these SD subs if they come out...?

[lifeordeath2]

Where could i download these SD subs if they come out...?

http://www.sdproject.net/index.php?page=news

[Uchiha_Blaze]

worst non filler episode... omg im so dissapointed :(. Aww heck even the fillers were better, this ep is one huge filler i mean aww. Maybe that or i tunred into a manga watcha ma call it.. but i mean come one this TWO EPS YES TWO EPS covered 1/3 a chapter, man i hope the next ep wont be so dissapointing. The new animators suck, not because of the animation but theyr making half the story up, i hope kishimoto hires yakuzas to kill that pierrot thing, for not showing enough respect for him !

[Lost Prophet]

ahh, so now I knopw that ep 6 is gonna suck when it comes to animation. great... unless you have really high standards, this is gonna be real fun...

[UndrDog]

What is wrong with you people. The animation in Naruto has never been very good. Are you all just realizing this now? The animation here is no different then any other generic episode. Arch or Filler.

The only time you EVER see DECENT animation in Naruto is in the movies and the special fights. That's all.

So stop jumping on the horrible animation bandwagon people. We all know Naruto's animation is sub-par at best.

[steve]

Apparently, not all of us downloading the recent yhbt naruto 006.

If it was all manga, we would catch up in under a year and be forced to take another year+ of fillers. Furthermore, it would run so quickly that you wouldn't have any time to enjoy the fights. For example, the gaara fight could have been finished in under 5-10 minutes if they had followed the manga exactly.

What Im saying is... as many of us have stated before,
"the manga is essentially the barebones for the anime. The anime fills in the gaps and adds substance to the base storyline. "

I admit that anime writers sometimes drop the ball.... HARD... but there have been alot of things they have done, especially in fights, that have made them more enjoyable,

ie. Neji's 128 hits... -- filler move.
Large parts of the Lee vs Kimimaru fight -- filler.
Parts of Naruto sasuke -- filler.

These are three of my favorite fights. If you really want to see 100% manga storyline, read the manga. That's what it's there for. If you want to see the manga filled out, watch the anime.

[sharingan_user]

UndrDog

^no...
just look at part 1....zabuza arc, sasuke arc, etc... awesome animation and art...for a shonen anime, naruto had awesome animation back then...but right now, it's crap, totally crap....

[jounin101]

Apparently, not all of us downloading the recent yhbt naruto 006.

If it was all manga, we would catch up in under a year and be forced to take another year+ of fillers. Furthermore, it would run so quickly that you wouldn't have any time to enjoy the fights. For example, the gaara fight could have been finished in under 5-10 minutes if they had followed the manga exactly.

What Im saying is... as many of us have stated before,
"the manga is essentially the barebones for the anime. The anime fills in the gaps and adds substance to the base storyline. "

I admit that anime writers sometimes drop the ball.... HARD... but there have been alot of things they have done, especially in fights, that have made them more enjoyable,

ie. Neji's 128 hits... -- filler move.
Large parts of the Lee vs Kimimaru fight -- filler.
Parts of Naruto sasuke -- filler.

These are three of my favorite fights. If you really want to see 100% manga storyline, read the manga. That's what it's there for. If you want to see the manga filled out, watch the anime.

i would like to see a 1/1 ratio of episodes and manga chapters(meaning 1 episode for 1 chapter for idiots) i would understand filler content if that was the case.

steve, if diedara vs gaara is taking this long, then how long do u think "___" vs "__" will take?(the long as hell manga fight) i hope they dont add too much to this one, or we'll be watching that fight well into fall, maybe longer how things are going now.

[Kyuubi No Yoko]

underdog is right, but however there are people that so far have cried over the animation of the 7 episodes released so far.

If you dont like it after 7 episodes quit watching it and stop crying

As steve said if you wanna see 100% story line read the manga and stop crying because im 100% sure that if they showed more manga related stuff on the anime and the anime catches up with the manga in 3 months even then you wouldnt be happy and we would go back to fillers and you will cry even more.

The episodes are good i like them a lot, of course there are parts that drop a bit but what animation program doesnt have em ?

The point of all this is that if you have been crying 7 episodes long why keep downloading and watching ? just quit, watch another anime or read the manga. because i really dont like how it has become a custom for every episode to have people saying "how dissapointed, animation sucked "

Just my opinion :cool: shippuuden rocks :D

[FbiHitman]

it not worth waiting 1 week to see an hour special. What do you expect out of the first episodes. They have to fill people in on stuff that happened. So fillers are on the way.

Just my opinion shippuuden rocks

100% agree

[Hidden Ninja]

Barely anyone wants to realize that:

1. if they are new animators, animation will have to be worked on
2. they have just done close to 1.5 yrs worth of filler work. how do you expect the animation not to be crappy at the beginning.
3. new team needs to learn how to work together, no new team is amazing immediately.
4. expect add alot of add ons (filler content) to be added to the anime at the beginning. Why? simple, they do not want to have to take another year and change of filler content again.

so right now, they need to get into a good groove. Also they are being overcautious, and in my opinion, that is why they are adding so much filler.

its only been 7 episodes. in the first episode it showed that they were capable of great animation. i would expect with new animators that there may be some managerial/working together issues.

if they don't improve over a decent amount of time, ok, then bitch. But seriously, IT IS DAMN ANNOYING TO HEAR EVERY PERSON BITCH EVERY WEEK ABOUT SOMETHING THAT JUST RESTARTED. I must have seen the same complaints every week.

[sharingan_user]

i don't know....the strange thing, is that 8 min intro with sasuke...it seems to me work of the old animators...and it's awesome animation...so probably these new guys, only worked in the first episodes...(i really want to believe that)
well, at least episode 7 was cool....

[rkappiyo]

if they don't improve over a decent amount of time, ok, then bitch. But seriously, IT IS DAMN ANNOYING TO HEAR EVERY PERSON BITCH EVERY WEEK ABOUT SOMETHING THAT JUST RESTARTED. I must have seen the same complaints every week.

I wouldn't even mind that, but I think it's the same people that make the same complaints.

[Kyuubi No Yoko]

Barely anyone wants to realize that:

1. if they are new animators, animation will have to be worked on
2. they have just done close to 1.5 yrs worth of filler work. how do you expect the animation not to be crappy at the beginning.
3. new team needs to learn how to work together, no new team is amazing immediately.
4. expect add alot of add ons (filler content) to be added to the anime at the beginning. Why? simple, they do not want to have to take another year and change of filler content again.

so right now, they need to get into a good groove. Also they are being overcautious, and in my opinion, that is why they are adding so much filler.

its only been 7 episodes. in the first episode it showed that they were capable of great animation. i would expect with new animators that there may be some managerial/working together issues.

if they don't improve over a decent amount of time, ok, then bitch. But seriously, IT IS DAMN ANNOYING TO HEAR EVERY PERSON BITCH EVERY WEEK ABOUT SOMETHING THAT JUST RESTARTED. I must have seen the same complaints every week.

Damn right :cool: . I love you HN :D

[Hiyo]

Here's an idea: Using episode threads to discussion the story content of the episode and how it affects the characters involved. STFU about animation quality. Even if animation is bad, anyone that watches the episode will be able to see that for themselves. You aren't adding a single thing to the discussion when you whine about animation. Just as you aren't adding a single thing when you post in defense of the animation.

The threads in here SUCK since fillers started. The trend should have stopped when the fillers ended.

Maybe instead of a seperate forum to filter out download links/problems we should have a seperate forum for bitching and moaning about episode filler/animation/sound.

[jounin101]

sooo...what did the preview say was happening in this episode? i didnt watch shippuden 5 btw!

[sharingan_user]

people have the right to complain....i don't like to complain, really, but shippuuden could be so much better right now...
ah, and i really loved the final...sasori is badass...

[Fabian_89]

if you had not read the manga, there arent that many filler... you guys really should just read the manga

spoiler: There will never be any fillerparts in the manga!!! :o

i think they did a great job til now!

btw: shouldnt subs already got out? oO

[sharingan_user]

no, cuz this episode is a special, so it takes more time than a normal episode....

[FbiHitman]

if you had not read the manga, there arent that many filler... you guys really should just read the manga

spoiler: There will never be any fillerparts in the manga!!! :o

i think they did a great job til now!

btw: shouldnt subs already got out? oO

1 Hour special, DB is never fast and they will probably come out with it tomorrow.

[Fabian_89]

hm thats crap :/ wanna see the eps b4 goin to bed -_-

[FbiHitman]

yea, if they dont come out with it tonight i will have to just watch the RAW.

[NMK]

I'm expecting atleast 10 hours from Dattebayo.

In 10 hours the previous episode got released so I'm expecting the special to get released even later. 10 Hours if we're lucky.

Good night people!

[Fabian_89]

if sd is coming out before im going to bed ill watch sd subs... if i have to wait til tomorrow ill watch db subs... i hate this crap. everyones talking about the new eps and all i can do is just waitin -_- man i have to learn japanese very fast!! :D

[LuCas]

SD will release in a couple of hours.
They are fast, like what they did to shipuuden 001-002 special.

[FbiHitman]

ill be watchin both. Be posting the link at first sight if not up at all. I guess Smallville and Supernatural will pass the time, lol.

[oipotty]

ill definitey be up to watch it, even though i already know wat happens, it is always great to see it animated:):)

[FbiHitman]

Yea that is allways a great thing. Animation of a Manga gets the blood flowing.

Whats up with your sig? The family stuff.

[Kyuubi No Yoko]

Whats up with your sig? The family stuff.

There is a thread under the Newbie section called Adoptions thread, is kinda like a game where you can get like a family among the members of the forums :p

[oipotty]

Yea that is allways a great thing. Animation of a Manga gets the blood flowing.

Whats up with your sig? The family stuff.

its like having a family online!!! go there and ask to be adopted

anyway, the completion of the battle will be heart-rending
will the show the other rookies in 6 and 7????

[Kyuubi No Yoko]

I think most likely yes oipotty since the other episode ended with naruto and sakura going to eat ramen maybe they run into some one on the way to the ramen shop or someone arrives to the ramen shop while they're eating

[FbiHitman]

the subbed is out by DB

[rkappiyo]

Here's the link:

http://yhbt.mine.nu/t/ns006-007.torrent

[oipotty]

cool--- thanks

[LuCas]

Wow that was quick. They actually beat SD.

This is some difficult competition with 2 really good subbers ;)

[lifeordeath2]

Interestingly enough, SD has not released a subbed version, and I don't know if this message referred to the past or the future, "Uska on Sat 24th of March 2007 at 06:53 AM
Despite what a certain other group said about holding off Naruto 006-007, there is no 006-007 this week. Much like 2 weeks ago it didn't air, it won't air again this week so don't send me emails about it(to those of you who did, this is your reply). The week after that will be the same, and the 008-009 special will air. So come back next week for Naruto, and 2 weeks after that for more of it."

[Kyuubi No Yoko]

They were refering at the joke that DB pulled out about not realising this episode until ppl downloaded 75k times pitagoras switch. but that has nothing to do with this now. DB beated them flat out. :D

[rkappiyo]

Interestingly enough, SD has not released a subbed version, and I don't know if this message referred to the past or the future, "Uska on Sat 24th of March 2007 at 06:53 AM
Despite what a certain other group said about holding off Naruto 006-007, there is no 006-007 this week. Much like 2 weeks ago it didn't air, it won't air again this week so don't send me emails about it(to those of you who did, this is your reply). The week after that will be the same, and the 008-009 special will air. So come back next week for Naruto, and 2 weeks after that for more of it."

It referred to the fact that DB originally posted that they were going to hold off on releasing the sub for 006-007 by one week (from 3/22 to 3/29) unless people downloaded a particular file, even though the episode itself wouldn't get aired until 3/29.

[oipotty]

that was an awesome double episode, but yea, that was quick

[FbiHitman]

Was surprised caught me off-guard. Downloading but not alot of seeders right now. downloading from 1 person, and uploading to 125 people. lol

[Lost Prophet]

I'm gonna catch it on youtube soon, with poor quality. too lazy to download. I'd have to reinstall bitcomet and the vlc media player...

[FbiHitman]

I do the episodes with WMP.

[Aizen-diacho]

a very good episode.the extra scenes thrown in were pretty good they did a good jo legnthing the anime.Next week's episode is another double and we et to see what kankuro's got imo i think he's gonna lose,sasori seems to be Deidara surperior kankuro is totally outclassed

[KageNaruto]

These double eps are stupid as heck! If they are gonna make them double and make them reach fillers sooner, they might as well air it as a single ep, and take out the filler parts and animate it better as well as give it a good pace.

[NMK]

Whine Whine Whine


Going to watch the episode now, starting with 5 to get back into it.

5-7 now, bye.

[Drunken_Master_Rock_Lee]

Here are my statements about the ep:
1)Temari is ubber sexy, hottest girl in that anime.....
2) Kankouro was nice in that ep.....
3) I hate how they try to stretch it as much as possible, I thought the Deidara/Gaara fight would take all the ep because it was so slow......It's such a small fight but it took like 3 eps just for it.
4)I don't know how Sasori does those fake trails but it sure is great, had the opponent be anyone else than Gaara, it would have worked perfectly.
5) It is a 100% sure that Shika will have Temari in his bed someday.....
6)Finally, Iruka seemed like a Naruto fanboy.......

[lifeordeath2]

Taht was a pretty decent episode IMO. Very interesting how deidara won that fight...great strategy...don't know if losing your arm for a single victory is worth it. Sasori did a great job with those fake tyrails, but its hard to believe that he wouldn't think about the crumbling sand leaving a trail. The animation isn't teh besty, but it still looks better to me. I don't watch naruto for the animation anyway, lol! Now if it started looking liek Lupin III, then I would complain.

[NMK]

I liked the episode, Sasori seems strong so I can't wait til the next episode.

One thing that's annoying me is all these specials. I'd rather watch one episode/week than waiting two weeks to watch 2 episodes.

[amod]

gr8 episode next episodes now are must see

[Mighty_Frog]

meh, i found these eps pretty underwhelming.

*sigh* i dunno it just feels to me like something is missing from Naruto right now, some integral thing that one year of fillers made them forget about and im patiently waiting and hoping they get it back soon

and guys before u flame people for complaining and tell them to stop watching Naruto if they dont like how shippuden is going remember that we all know how superterrific awesome Naruto can be and therefore no matter how dissapointed we are with the eps we will still come back each week to watch it with the hopes of seeing it back to its former glory

its like telling a mother to throw away a baby she's been carrying for 9 months just because it has a deformed left hand, if its a good mother its just not gonna happen

[Hidden Ninja]

ok, so they made some improvements in the animation.

its weird, i was noticing in all the episodes the make an a minor mistake, I don't know if it is for laughs of what but its weird. In this episode, when gaara is initially being carried away, at one point he does not have shoes on.

anyhow, this release was better, they made improvements, seems like they are not repeating frames in fight sequences, thank god. don't mind them taking more time and doing a double release if it means that they will improve in animation this week.

my one annoyance was that in episode 5 they show the fight between sasori and deidara, and here in this episode it barely was even touched upon.

[Kyuubi No Yoko]

Pretty good episode, i loved how they are bringin closer shikamaru and temari, also the decoy trails on the sand were great strategy and kankurou with 3 puppets will be sick next week. I just hope that they could stretch the episodes a bit less. like covering part of the sasori fight on episode 8 but its ok anyways .

[Uchiha_Blaze]

Anyway i would love to see a 1 chapter, 1 ep ratio. They stratched the Gaara Vs Deidara thing too much

[Kyuubi No Yoko]

I think he was scared because now he didnt have any clay left to defend or do anything, plus he was missing one arm now and just got out of a fight

[high6]

Sigh still shitty animation. Really who ever animates the show right now needs to learn how to make shadows and have characters walk. They need to stop doing repeated clips because it just makes it look shittier. And whats with garra chipping outward and yet its black?

[FbiHitman]

I dont mind watching Naruto come back to the village, but i hate when they make fights 3 episodes long then end it with another one gunna start. All good, thou.

[steve]

Pros:
- 45 minutes of naruto goodness
- gaara fight was awesome, I've gotta say. Deidra figured out an awesome way of beating him in the end, I think thats a really genius finale. If you're going to beat someone like gaara, it better be that good.
- Gaara as kazekage, saves the village... twice? in that entire fight. Last of the energy to move the sand was awesome, although in my head a little voice was screaming "use it to kill diedra". Diedra gives him respect and time as he does what he needs to
- A little comic bouncing around with Naruto. Looks like they are finally going to get some real action after 3 episodes of essentially nothing. Not that Im complaining, as stated, gaara was sick.
- the animation in both episodes wasn't that bad. Normally, I consider animation poor when I NOTICE something that looks really bad or chunky. These episodes, especially the second, had no such phenomenon. We haveto realize that this is a weekly show, people who want movie quality each week will need to realize that it just isn't feasible.
- the fight was three episodes long... thats a whole lot of gaara and diedra. Holler yes. Ill talk more about this in personal comments
- Iruka sensei and ramen. Money.
- Sakura feels bad for not eating with naruto, money.
-Kankouro is pretty sick, I won't lie. Hes one of my favorite characters in this series. I really liked watching him get furious and head off after gaara and atkasuki.

Cons:
- Really wanted to see more of kankouro vs sasori, but they are just spacing their episodes carefully so its cool
- I guess the animation wasnt as good as say some of the bleach animation. Some people seem really concerned about this.
- gaara lost... less of a con and more of a dissapointment. But he saved the village.

Things to Consider:
- team kakashi's future, im sure itll be covered soon
- what will atkasuki do to gaara
- Kankouro vs Sasori... humm!

Personal Comments:
- The main two complains Im picking up are A) the animation sucks; and B) the amount of manga in each episode and how drawn out the fight was.
A) THe animation is not as good as a movie. You are the correct. Thats because they release this show once a week and its not easy to animate such a mass of episodes. The animation in these episodes was not that bad. The shadowing wasn't taken to the next level like in the last episode but there were hardly any misdrawn characters or movements that weren't fluid. I think it looked really good to be honest. Just because you just finished watching samurai champloo doesn't mean you should expect everyone and their dog to have awesome animation. Furthermore, animation was always like this, even worse. Anyone remember kiba naruto? That fight was animated sooo poorly made me want to kill myself. This is just the nature of the business, and these episodes WERENT that bad
B) Manga content. The manga is the barebones. The anime fills it in. You should be happy that we get to see such a good fight drawn out over 3 episodes. FUrthermore, before fillers, this is still how they did things so dont try saying stuff like "it used to be different" because it didn't. In fact, before, instead of stretching out fights by having them actually fight(like they did with gaara) they stretch out fights by using the manga action, then pumping it full of filler dialogue. This is far worse then watching sand chase diedra around for 22 minutes. Furthermore, if they hurried the pace, it just means we are going to be caught up to the manga faster then we want to be... then you get another year of filler!-which is not what anyone wants. Be patient and enjoy the series.

Anyways, those are my responses to the animation and length haters. Peace!

EDIT: I agree with you mighty-frog. Something's different. I'd be interested to hear what people who didnt watch the fillers would hae to say.

[oipotty]

kankuro vs. sasori wouldn't be anything!!!!
sasori would kill kankuro in about two seconds!

[FbiHitman]

kankuro vs. sasori wouldn't be anything!!!!
sasori would kill kankuro in about two seconds!

I dont know about that. He is pretty good with 1 Puppet. But three will be a hell of a match-up.

[oipotty]

i wont tell u how good sasori really is but ill tell u this, he will get crushed sooo bad

[FbiHitman]

I read the manga bra. I know what happens. Just want to see what else they throw in it as extending the fight.

[jounin101]

EDIT: I agree with you mighty-frog. Something's different. I'd be interested to hear what people who didnt watch the fillers would hae to say.

well, i didnt watch fillers, but i do read the manga, do i count? if so...

i think the show is missing that "character" factor. its like we havent seen all the characters in konoha interacting with eachother like we used to, we dont see any real character development at the moment, just fights that are actually pointless in terms of character development(except for introduction of a new important force of bad guys)

i think when we see more of team 7 and the other teams again, we'll feel that "ummphh" factor that we are currently lacking in, that the pre-fillers had. i assure you, sooner or later,depending on how much they fluff-up the manga events, you'll start to feel it again.

[UndrDog]

The only reason I liked Naruto to begin with was the characters. And then I started to appreciate the world of Naruto more.

But we haven't seen jack crap. Of course the anime is following the manga. But the thing that seperates the manga from the anime is the fact that the anime is being drawn out more.

Now of course drawing it out is what allows it not to catch up to the manga so quickly. However taking three episodes to conclude a simple "steal the bells" practice is abit much. Or worse yet, taking six episodes to capture Gaara when in the manga I think it took only one. That's one week in the manga against well over a month in the anime.

Now yes, it will keep the anime from sneaking up and mugging the manga. But at the same time, there are certain times where you can draw out the anime, and other times where you shouldn't. I think the beginning, right now, is a very bad time to do this.

The manga did it right. In the beginning of Naruto, Naruto had the quick introduction of himself and learning the Kage Bunshin. They then took the time to introduce Konohamaru and his teammates. Then they had an INTERESTING MISSION right off the bat. Came back from that and then we got introduced to all of the others. (Note, in my opinion the Chuunin Exam is still the best part of the anime.)

However now they've barely introduced anyone. Which is ok. Because now they're going to go on a mission. Just like before in the first part. Too bad though they're taking six episodes to get to this point.

All I'm saying is that I think the anime would be alot better if they held off on prolonging the series until some interesting point. Not when we're'll just waiting to see our favorite characters, or simply sick of seeing Naruto. I mean come on, the fillers alone should make Naruto seem very annoying reguardless of age.

[Hiyo]

Good special. The first half was a little slow but I really liked the second half. Temari/Shika scene was cute. Their hooking-up is becoming more and more apparant. The scenes with Akatsuki carrying away Gaara and some of the sand people being concerned + the music playing at the time was pretty nice story development. Sand village looks completely different then it did when they were attacking Konoha. Happy village now :d

I didn't honestly feel anything missing from this episode. There weren't any really awesome scenes of animation... a few scenes where the Sand village arrows had explosive tags were really well drawn... kinda weird.

I tihnk this was the first episode that gave me the old Naruto feel watching it. Just needed some time to readjust to thinks having meaning in the show again.

[spacecadet319]

mad bitching... holy shit.

ep 6 sucked, but i dont see anything wrong with the animations... u guys are bugging out.

[Uchiha_Blaze]

Anyhow, if they make Sasori look even a tad weeker then in the manga il explode. If The Kankurou vs Sasori part will take more then 5 min im gonna be so damn fuckin pissed >.>. Ahh now that thats out :), i feel better already ^^. So i heard somehow that theyr strecthing out episodes like this because they ended fillers too soon, is that true ? Cause then they will have to stop stretching eveything out when the manga comes a bit forward.

[el naruto]

It wasnt a bad ep but I was really bored they drug out the fight to far.

[Hiyo]

Yeah we are definitely missing out on a lot of new character development right after... I think once they get back to showing all the characters and we get more up-to-date with them things will be coool again. It's kinda slow having 7 episodes only really development two bad guys and Gaara. They really haven't shown much about Naruto or Sakuras training with that fight with Kakashi.

[Greenlitflag]

I like the trap that sasori set up, it made perfect sense for him to do that so I didn't mind it as a filler thing (that and the branching trails.) The animation was good in some parts, meh in others. For some reason, the animation was really good when deidra was leaving the village dodging the exploding arrows.

[Hellchild915]

they are moving to slow they used way to much time on the fight and alot of little crap I hope they pick it up

[oipotty]

I read the manga bra. I know what happens. Just want to see what else they throw in it as extending the fight.

if u read the manga, then u would know they threw in the fight cuz of sakura!

DID U CALL ME A BRA??:p :p :p

[Hiyo]

Don't read the manga and the fights won't seem slow :P

[oipotty]

too tempting, cant resist

[FbiHitman]

yea Bra, anywho the extending is annoying.

[Mindblade16]

I thoroughly enjoyed it. Naruto is a masterpiece. I read the manga as well and I love both mediums in this series.

[KageNaruto]

I think he was scared because now he didnt have any clay left to defend or do anything, plus he was missing one arm now and just got out of a fight

Or because it was a filler moment and they make a badass character look less badass.

I actually kinda liked the fact that Gaara moved the sand away from the village even though it was filler.

But yet again they make Diedara look worse than he really is.

Oh, and moment of animation that makes me smile: At one part when Diedara zoomed across the sky on his bord it zoomed in on his eye as he did it or something like that, it was good animation and finally an intersting angle. THey are getting somewhat better with the angles

[Uchiha_Blaze]

Or because it was a filler moment and they make a badass character look less badass.

I actually kinda liked the fact that Gaara moved the sand away from the village even though it was filler.

But yet again they make Diedara look worse than he really is.

Oh, and moment of animation that makes me smile: At one part when Diedara zoomed across the sky on his bord it zoomed in on his eye as he did it or something like that, it was good animation and finally an intersting angle. THey are getting somewhat better with the angles

nope that wasnt a filler, i also thought it was but it actualy isnt in the manga it is shown how the sand moves out of the village and deidara says hmph a typical kazekage.. etc Go reread :)

edit : they made deidara look a little worse but it wasnt so bad :/, i hope they dont make sasori look worse or else im gonna just explode, oh and it might not seem like the sand is going out but look at the sfx it says SFX: barrier retreating

[FbiHitman]

nope that wasnt a filler, i also thought it was but it actualy isnt in the manga it is shown how the sand moves out of the village and deidara says hmph a typical kazekage.. etc Go reread :)

edit : they made deidara look a little worse but it wasnt so bad :/, i hope they dont make sasori look worse or else im gonna just explode, oh and it might not seem like the sand is going out but look at the sfx it says SFX: barrier retreating

you like to explode alot if they do something wrong, lol.

[Uchiha_Blaze]

you like to explode alot if they do something wrong, lol.

ye my explosions are the pure definitions of art lol

[qwertyu]

i didnt really enjoy this episode at all, i just cant believe gaara lost to the weaknest member of the akatsuki. ( i say he the weakest is because he aint got any ninja moves at all. and his bomb takes too long to make)

[FbiHitman]

Well the person he vs did not go all out. 1st he was not even fully prepared. 2nd He said that he was not to kill Garaa. So beating garaa without killing him is almost impossible. So he really was not weak.

[Uchiha_Blaze]

i didnt really enjoy this episode at all, i just cant believe gaara lost to the weaknest member of the akatsuki. ( i say he the weakest is because he aint got any ninja moves at all. and his bomb takes too long to make)

this is what im talking about, these filler moments made Deidara look week. Ye he beat Gaara and gaara even had the sand advantage ><, how is that week. Imho i think Deidara is even stronger then Itachi. Oh and yeah he brought him back alive and therfore he had to make a plan, if he would be ordered to kill him he could just made heavyer bombs and nuked gaara to oblivion.

[FbiHitman]

this is what im talking about, these filler moments made Deidara look week. Ye he beat Gaara and gaara even had the sand advantage ><, how is that week. Imho i think Deidara is even stronger then Itachi. Oh and yeah he brought him back alive and therfore he had to make a plan, if he would be ordered to kill him he could just made heavyer bombs and nuked gaara to oblivion.

Yea, he said something like "It's was hard not killing him".

[Hiyo]

ya I didn't think he looked weak at all. Plus Gaara has to protect the whole freakin village with sand after moving around all that sand to fight. I'd say that'd take a lot out of a person.

[Hidden Ninja]

qwertyu, what gives you the impression that he is weak?

deidara out maneuvered gaara and exploited his weakness. as hiyo said, gaara had a lot on his plate, plus for deidara's sake, it is always harder to knock someone out than to kill them.

also, we have seen two other members of akatsuki, itachi and kisame. kisame got slightly owned by gai and itachi, well he is itachi.

none of us have seen any other members, yet you can go and say that deidara is the weakest of akatsuki. how?...

[Kratos]

none of us have seen any other members, yet you can go and say that deidara is the weakest of akatsuki. how?...

He probably reads the manga.

[sharingan_user]

He probably reads the manga.

even so, he's wrong...

[Uchiha_Blaze]

hes just a Gaara fanboy, let him be

[KageNaruto]

nope that wasnt a filler, i also thought it was but it actualy isnt in the manga it is shown how the sand moves out of the village and deidara says hmph a typical kazekage.. etc Go reread :)

edit : they made deidara look a little worse but it wasnt so bad :/, i hope they dont make sasori look worse or else im gonna just explode, oh and it might not seem like the sand is going out but look at the sfx it says SFX: barrier retreating

Woops, hehe my bad. Yeah you are right, I think the fact that it took like 10 minutes for the sand to retreat is what made me think it was filler. In the manga it happened in just 1 panel, lol.

[FbiHitman]

Lets just settle at there are no weak aku's members

[Lost Prophet]

ah, finally seen the ep. I liked this one, and noticed no problems in animation. The anime seems to be getting better. I can't wait till it reaches what the manga is at now. I'd love to see the last 10-20 chapters animated.

[-RX-]

well, once again, i'm really disappointed with studio pierrot :(
episode 6 = pure crap, horrible animation....
episode 7= cool episode, nice animation...
the pace is still very slow, but i can deal with it...
i just found, that the old animators are working in bleach right now...they must return to naruto, cuz this koreans suck too much....

i agree,the 7th episode was definitely better than the 6th.It even raised my pulse rate a bit :D.Anyways i can't believe that GAARA lost...to some bird guy.That was so disappointing(and sad)....

Kankuro with his puppet summoning was cool.Every time we see that guy,he comes up with another puppet hehe...and this time it's quite a huge one...:D

Sasori seems to be a total freak,with that tail and all.I hope Kankuro beats the crap out of him^_^(though i think it's not gonna happen...-_-)

Uh...the animation part,well it sucked again ...but i kinda expected it...that studio pierrot has gotten really lazy lately...or they have hired some total noobs to do the job(hence...the koreans :D)

Anyways i hope the animation gets better eventually...

[sharingan_user]

well, yeah, these koreans are noobs, so no surprise about the animation...
what i think is that studio pierrot hired these guys, cuz they are with a low budget right now...in the future, they will fire these noobs(lol) and get good animators, like the old days...
but episode 7 was awesome in animation...just look at sasori...:)

[Uchiha_Blaze]

:'( i just cant get that damn thing out of my brain, oh my god ! Why the hell was Deidara scared of a meere puppet, i mean that dude laughed when a mofo shukaku arm chased after him, and grined when he lost his arm but omg, words cant explain how pissed i am at pierrot for making a 2 sec filler moment ruin half of the coolness of one badass cahr, FUCK.

Feel better already :)

[FbiHitman]

I dont he was scared at all.

[-RX-]

yeah he was more like making a "wtf is this guy trying to do,get himself killed" face ^_^

well, yeah, these koreans are noobs, so no surprise about the animation...
what i think is that studio pierrot hired these guys, cuz they are with a low budget right now...in the future, they will fire these noobs(lol) and get good animators, like the old days...
but episode 7 was awesome in animation...just look at sasori...:)

yeah i liked the part where sasori caught Kankuro's puppet with that tail...it was quite well animated too.

[Hidden Ninja]

deidara wasn't scared, it was, "oh another fool" face.

[oipotty]

i didnt really enjoy this episode at all, i just cant believe gaara lost to the weaknest member of the akatsuki. ( i say he the weakest is because he aint got any ninja moves at all. and his bomb takes too long to make)

WTF!!!!!
im not goin to spoil anything but, deidara is seriously strong. he is one of the really powerful akutski. remember S Class = Kage level. Akutski r S Class, and garra is kazekage. his bomb takes too long to make? wats that supposed to mean.

[FbiHitman]

Art takes time. His materpiece will take time to make. But i really dont think that he was slow at it.

[oipotty]

his clay jutsu are not slow, he eats the clay, and then blows them up. that simple. besides, his speed on his clay owl thing is amazing as well.

[Hiyo]

he's saying that making the bombs takes time.:P

[KageNaruto]

he's saying that making the bombs takes time.:P

But the explosive power is immense. When some of it was mixed with the sand it did more damage to Gaara then Lee did with 5 gates arguably

[oipotty]

yah, it did.
and could any other jutsu that u know of destroy an entire village?

[BulletHead]

I wouldn't say Deidara is the weakest member, but if it was a one on one fight between the two (without any interruptions) then I believe Gaara would've won it. By interruptions I mean saving the village for example.

[Hiyo]

Well Deidara sneaky attack really didn't need to involve the huge bomb did it? He could have done other things in the fight and the outcome would have been the same. Plus he looked pretty relaxed and established that it was harder to keep Gaara alive. And Sasori said he should have brought more clay and been more prepared.

I think it's silly to assume Gaara is stronger then the Akatsuki when they are activing going after people with demons (Naruto/Gaara).

[Hidden Ninja]

yea and it seems that even though they move in 2 man cells, only one member handles the task.

itachi/kisame, itachi tells kisame not to do anything, etc. he ends up doing the main bulk of the fighting.

deidara/sasori, deidara went after gaara alone.

[qwertyu]

qwertyu, what gives you the impression that he is weak?

deidara out maneuvered gaara and exploited his weakness. as hiyo said, gaara had a lot on his plate, plus for deidara's sake, it is always harder to knock someone out than to kill them.

also, we have seen two other members of akatsuki, itachi and kisame. kisame got slightly owned by gai and itachi, well he is itachi.

none of us have seen any other members, yet you can go and say that deidara is the weakest of akatsuki. how?...

the reason that i say he the weakness of the akatsuki is because through out the enitre fight he had with gaara he had never tried to fight gaara like a normal fight (physcial combat, hand to hand, taijutsu or any type of close combat) all he does is flying on his bird and using unfair tatics (destorying the villiage/citizen) and making gaara draining his charkara by protecting his village and when gaara finally use his last remaining charkara and fainted. and BAM he capture gaara.

P.S. am the type of person that dont read manga because i dont like to watch somethng i already know will happen. so to thoes who assumed that i read the manga, you are wrong.

[Kyuubi_Naruto]

I'm sorry, but this episode was terrible. I turned it off halfway through, it was that boring. I'd rather they speed it up and put up with fillers than to constantly have to deal with this half-assed crap.

</rant>

[Hidden Ninja]

the reason that i say he the weakness of the akatsuki is because through out the enitre fight he had with gaara he had never tried to fight gaara like a normal fight (physcial combat, hand to hand, taijutsu or any type of close combat) all he does is flying on his bird and using unfair tatics (destorying the villiage/citizen) and making gaara draining his charkara by protecting his village and when gaara finally use his last remaining charkara and fainted. and BAM he capture gaara.

P.S. am the type of person that dont read manga because i dont like to watch somethng i already know will happen. so to thoes who assumed that i read the manga, you are wrong.

you realize that there are different types of fighters, some won't lay a hand on their opponent, others use solely that. look at kuranai, she is purely genjutsu, you won't see her running it to fight hand to hand. but say neji, he is purely close range combat, so he always has to run in for the kill. the sound nin, kido, that neji faced was purely long distance, there was no hand to hand combat in that fight.

also, making your opponent weak by making him act foolishly is a great tactic, it opens up places for attack. also gaara did not faint from exhaustion, he fainted from getting bombs blown up directly into his face. he just used he last bit of energy to save the village. at that point he would have lost anyway.

I'm sorry, but this episode was terrible. I turned it off halfway through, it was that boring. I'd rather they speed it up and put up with fillers than to constantly have to deal with this half-assed crap.

</rant>
so then don't watch nor post garbage like that.

[Uchiha_Blaze]

I wouldn't say Deidara is the weakest member, but if it was a one on one fight between the two (without any interruptions) then I believe Gaara would've won it. By interruptions I mean saving the village for example.

sigh, Deidei-chan had to take him alive ffs, it was harder not to kill him..he had to amke a plan on how to do it. If he wanted him dead it would just be nuke away. And deidaras bombs are helluva..BANG

[NMK]

Deidara had to keep him alive since they were after the Shukaku. If Gaara dies the Shukaku does too right? So they'll propably "drag" the Shukaku out and they'll just kill him afterwards, or he might die in the process I don't know.

[FbiHitman]

Lets just say if you went to filght garaa. You fought close combat with weapons, and fists. You would die very fast. Fighting Garaa from a distance is a good idea. Gives you time to plan and watch his sand come at you.

[oipotty]

I'm sorry, but this episode was terrible. I turned it off halfway through, it was that boring. I'd rather they speed it up and put up with fillers than to constantly have to deal with this half-assed crap.

</rant>

sorry dude, but I can't see half a reason why you should be posting half-assed crap like this.

[NMK]

I agree 50/50 with you oipotty. It's his opinion and he has the right to post it. Personally I liked the episode.

[Uchiha_Blaze]

heh i rewatched it and omy, look at the ep 6 explosion animations and ep 7 explosion animations, see the huge diffrence, i ahve to admit if they keep the ep 7 animation or well upgrade it a little bit it would be awesome. In my opinion.

[Fabian_89]

omg if anyone here dont like watching naruto the way it is, then just dont watch it! your crappy whining ("oh it was soo boring, oh the animation sucks, everything is bad, naruto sucks") just sucks. Go somewhere else or watch somethin else...

[oipotty]

I agree 50/50 with you oipotty. It's his opinion and he has the right to post it. Personally I liked the episode.

yea well, tons of people hav been posting how bad this show is in this forums. oh well.

anyway, was it the way it was supposed to be or did anyone notice baki in this one scene had a huge head? is it just me?

[Uchiha_Blaze]

yea well, tons of people hav been posting how bad this show is in this forums. oh well.

anyway, was it the way it was supposed to be or did anyone notice baki in this one scene had a huge head? is it just me?

nah, well kishi moto drew that in the manga so they had to made it. It looked kinda stupid animated :p, but in the manga it was ok.

[oipotty]

maybe...
next episode should be pretty darn good. naruto in action

[Hidden Ninja]

they've done that a couple of times in the series. making the head abnormally large. eh, didn't see the purpose in that instance for it.

[oipotty]

oh yeah, now i remember some other times. anyway, what is bakis position in the sand? is he general

[Hiyo]

He's a jounin for all we know. I don't think they have given him any specific title.

[NMK]

True, we know that he was the Sand Genin's sensei but even he was afraid of Gaara, and I think that Kakashi could take Gaara out so Baki is definitely weaker than Kakashi.

[-RX-]

True, we know that he was the Sand Genin's sensei but even he was afraid of Gaara, and I think that Kakashi could take Gaara out so Baki is definitely weaker than Kakashi.

He was afraid of the Shukaku...

Right now it's merely impossible to tell who's better,because first,they haven't fought and second,Baki hasn't showed his skills.

[Hidden Ninja]

i would have to say baki is quite formidable because he seems to have a high rank. he was the one that worked with the supposed kazekage and sound village to attack konoha.

he's afraid of gaara because of two things. shukaku and that he probably does not have a technique that can beat gaara. kakashi does because he has chidori which pierces the sand barrier.

[Hiyo]

There's no way Kakashi could defeat Shukaku. He wasn't scared of Gaara because he had no clue about him. If Naruto or Jiraiya hadn't been around at the time it would have been interesting how they managed to take Shukaku down.

[Hidden Ninja]

i agree hiyo. i was just saying how kakashi has a slight bit of an upper hand on gaara before he transforms.

[oipotty]

currently, i think they are even. but kakashi would hav to push it. he will probly hav to use that new jutsu of his

[Mindblade16]

There's no way Kakashi could defeat Shukaku. He wasn't scared of Gaara because he had no clue about him. If Naruto or Jiraiya hadn't been around at the time it would have been interesting how they managed to take Shukaku down.

I think it might have ended up as a similar scenario to what happened with naruto and kyuubi. Problem with that is that the only nin that knew the jutsu was indisposed battling Oro-sannin.

[Hiyo]

Ya the third could have tried sealing it but I doubt it. He has issues sealing Orochimaru as it was.

[LuCas]

Finally watched this episode, I know im really late on it but damn that was good.
The ending of 007 was a good cliffhanger, but now I get to wait only 4 days instead of usual 7! :]
Sasori is as scary as I expected. Kishimoto - the writer- did a fantastic job about that Sasori guy.

[Mindblade16]

Yah, the dramatic effect built up very nicely w/ Sasori, climaxing with the puppet tail. Even though I know what happens next, I'm drooling to see how brilliantly they portray the events in the next episode!!!

[NMK]

Actually Lucas, I believe it's two weeks wait again .. Not sure, I'll check it up.

Edit: Yep, it's two weeks. The next episode/s = another special

Jpn. 04/12/07 Episode 008: "Excursion, Kakashi's Group"

Jpn. 04/12/07 Episode 009: "Jinchuuriki Tears"

Jpn. 04/19/07 Episode 010: "Fuuin Jutsu - Genryuu Kyuu Fuujin"

Jpn. 04/26/07 Episode 011: "Apprentice of the Medical Ninja"

[Kratos]

Deidara pwns. He lost his arm on purpose so he could beat Gaara. Kankuro vs Sasori looks good. I can't wait to see what Kankuro's third puppet can do.

[NMK]

Yeah, his new puppet looks bad ass. Something from the Dino stage or something ^^

[Noob-Smoke]

i love deidara now he is effing awesome!!!!!!! sasori is sick too.. reading the manga is 1 thing but watchin this shit in action is juss good stuff lol.

[BulletHead]

I still think Gaara would've defeated Deidara.

[steve]

Well, part of the whole drama of that battle was that Gaara chose to save the village instead of beating his foe, which shows how much he has grown since meeting naruto.

Had he let that bomb explode on the village, he would've had a huge opening to attack diedra with. Even when he was moving the sand away from the village, that effort could've gone towards fighting. Diedra was out of clay and was essentially done fighting(note: he backs away surprised/afraid when gaara isn't knocked out yet). Gaara's identity as kazekage was more important then his own life/winning.

So, gaara COULD have beat him but in the narutoverse, its all about circumstance. These circumstances were not allowing it.

[BulletHead]

Well of course, this is Naruto we're talking about. But Gaara 'could've' defeated Deidara if it wasn't for those 'circumstances'.

[Uchiha_Blaze]

Well of course, this is Naruto we're talking about. But Gaara 'could've' defeated Deidara if it wasn't for those 'circumstances'.

no he couldnt, deidara didnt even fight with hes all..he just made a plan on how to get him alive. '' Getting him alive was harder then i thought hmph ''

[Uchiha_Blaze]

Well, part of the whole drama of that battle was that Gaara chose to save the village instead of beating his foe, which shows how much he has grown since meeting naruto.

Had he let that bomb explode on the village, he would've had a huge opening to attack diedra with. Even when he was moving the sand away from the village, that effort could've gone towards fighting. Diedra was out of clay and was essentially done fighting(note: he backs away surprised/afraid when gaara isn't knocked out yet). Gaara's identity as kazekage was more important then his own life/winning.

So, gaara COULD have beat him but in the narutoverse, its all about circumstance. These circumstances were not allowing it.

no deidara was never surprised that gaara isnt koed yet, that was a filler moment.



eit: Guys just please dont be fanboys of 1 character, realy i mean pelase dont say gaara could have beaten deidara yet, just loodk at the facts shall we. Gaara had a huge advantage that became his disadvantage. Deidara, wasnt allowed to make :SPOILER *********************** i dunno like 2 owls with 2 clay clones on them and send them to gaara, that would destroyed gaara in 1 shot :SPOILER *********************, he had to make a goddamn plan how to take him alive, and it worked. Yes in those circumstances when deidara was executing the plan, if he made a mistake he could be in big trouble. But 1 vs 1 in a wide medow.... Gaara wouldnt last 2 seconds. Not saying he cant surpass Deidara, but atm hes weaker. THE END.

[Hidden Ninja]

uchiha, you aren't a newbie anymore. you should know to use the edit button.

[Uchiha_Blaze]

uchiha, you aren't a newbie anymore. you should know to use the edit button.

Sorry for the double post, i know its annoying.llits very very annoying again sorry..i was just kinda hotheaded

[-RX-]

Wasn't Shukaku supposed to come out when Gaara is sleeping.Then when Gaara got KO'ed why didn't it happen.It's basically same as sleeping,i mean in general it is:you lose conscious....

Also Gaara can transform and take the form of the Shukaku without losing his awareness and letting the beast out...i don't understand why he didn't use it....i know i would have...:D

So basically Gaara IS more powerful than Deidara,he only underestimated that bird freak,lol ^^

[rkappiyo]

Wasn't Shukaku supposed to come out when Gaara is sleeping.Then when Gaara got KO'ed why didn't it happen.It's basically same as sleeping,i mean in general it is:you lose conscious....

Because then the story wouldn't work...

Also Gaara can transform and take the form of the Shukaku without losing his awareness and letting the beast out...i don't understand why he didn't use it....i know i would have...:D

So basically Gaara IS more powerful than Deidara,he only underestimated that bird freak,lol ^^

I think it would have been much harder to not harm the village if he was in Shukaku form because the power of the Shukaku's attacks (even when Gaara retains consciousness).

[BulletHead]

Who said anything about being a fanboy. I actually hate Gaara.

Well Deidara did need to capture Gaara alive but he still needed to find a way to get around the sand defense. Even if he wanted to kill him just using high explosive clays alone still wouldn't be enough as the sand will defend it. If Gaara did manage to wrap the whole of Deidara's body with Desert Coffin at that scene, Deidara would've died along with his plan. Deidara is risking his life. Ok, he needed to capture Gaara alive. But what if he didn't? Would he have used the same plan?

[rkappiyo]

Who said anything about being a fanboy. I actually hate Gaara.

Well Deidara did need to capture Gaara alive but he still needed to find a way to get around the sand defense. Even if he wanted to kill him just using high explosive clays alone still wouldn't be enough as the sand will defend it. If Gaara did manage to wrap the whole of Deidara's body with Desert Coffin at that scene, Deidara would've died along with his plan. Deidara is risking his life. Ok, he needed to capture Gaara alive. But what if he didn't? Would he have used the same plan?

I think he would have, except made the explosives stronger, so that instead of just putting the hurt on Gaara, Deidara would have killed him.

[BulletHead]

I think he would have, except made the explosives stronger, so that instead of just putting the hurt on Gaara, Deidara would have killed him.

Thats the thing though, the only way to beat Gaara is to risk his own life. I'm sure there are other ways to beat Gaara's sand defense but seeing that an Akatsuki member was fighting him, you would've thought that they could have come up with a better strategy that doesn't involve risking their own life.

[Uchiha_Blaze]

Who said anything about being a fanboy. I actually hate Gaara.

Well Deidara did need to capture Gaara alive but he still needed to find a way to get around the sand defense. Even if he wanted to kill him just using high explosive clays alone still wouldn't be enough as the sand will defend it. If Gaara did manage to wrap the whole of Deidara's body with Desert Coffin at that scene, Deidara would've died along with his plan. Deidara is risking his life. Ok, he needed to capture Gaara alive. But what if he didn't? Would he have used the same plan?

ok i appologize i was thinking of you as a fanboy sorry, but now i see your cool and you make sense. But no i think he wouldnt used the same plan his clay clones would have the power to break the sand I THINK. We have no proof whatsoever but remember Deidaras explosion can do MASSIVE damage.

edit : RX, no sorry he isnt at Deidaras level YET. Read my upper post or something i kinda explained it. Gaara didnt underastimate him he gave his best i realy respected that, Deidara was the one who underestimated him. The reason why Shukaku didnt come out was because i think Gaara managed to controll him a little more over the time skip and yeah the story wouldnt work :D.

[rkappiyo]

Thats the thing though, the only way to beat Gaara is to risk his own life. I'm sure there are other ways to beat Gaara's sand defense but seeing that an Akatsuki member was fighting him, you would've thought that they could have come up with a better strategy that doesn't involve risking their own life.

There probably are, but I definitely can't think of any other than pure speed (like Lee during the chuunin exams), or power (Sasuke during the chuunin exams). However, Deidara's style of fighting involves neither of those. I think that the reason he looked weak is that his style doesn't match with Gaara's very well.

[BulletHead]

ok i appologize i was thinking of you as a fanboy sorry, but now i see your cool and you make sense. But no i think he wouldnt used the same plan his clay clones would have the power to break the sand I THINK. We have no proof whatsoever but remember Deidaras explosion can do MASSIVE damage.

True Deidara's explosions does do massive damage but we have seen how he defended an entire village from that high explosive bomb. If he could defend an entire village from that massive attack, then surely he should be able to defend himself from any other massive attacks that Deidara can mold out of his hand.

[Uchiha_Blaze]

True Deidara's explosions does do massive damage but we have seen how he defended an entire village from that high explosive bomb. If he could defend an entire village from that massive attack, then surely he should be able to defend himself from any other massive attacks that Deidara can mold out of his hand.

Yeah i agree but.. the wasy he said it : taking him alive was harder then i thought : and that stupid smirk on his face i i just dont know. Well you know what i think Deidara could ''easily'' kill Gaara is to tire him out. To block that huge bomb took quite a bit of chackra soo... Deidara would just have to bring more clay next time and do speed, high dmg bombs to tire gaara out. I think that would work.

Edit: Or not no im, not sure anymore if that would work >.>.

[BulletHead]

There probably are, but I definitely can't think of any other than pure speed (like Lee during the chuunin exams), or power (Sasuke during the chuunin exams). However, Deidara's style of fighting involves neither of those. I think that the reason he looked weak is that his style doesn't match with Gaara's very well.

I agree, high speed would be able to beat him however power, now that is what I don't get. As seen in the anime Sasuke used Chidori and managed to penetrate right through Gaara's sphere. Deidara's explosive clay (that big bomb attack) have more destructive power (just an assumption) than Chidori, but why wasn't it able to break through Gaara's sand that was defending the village?

Ok guys help me clarify something first, when Gaara enters inside the sphere, is it as powerful (defensive wise) as it is when he used that big lump of sand to defend the village?

[Uchiha_Blaze]

I agree, high speed would be able to beat him however power, now that is what I don't get. As seen in the anime Sasuke used Chidori and managed to penetrate right through Gaara's sphere. Deidara's explosive clay (that big bomb attack) have more destructive power (just an assumption) than Chidori, but why wasn't it able to break through Gaara's sand that was defending the village?

Ok guys help me clarify something first, when Gaara enters inside the sphere, is it as powerful (defensive wise) as it is when he used that big lump of sand to defend the village?

Thats what i was thinking to, prob not.. im not sure but maybe the thing taht blocked the bomb was his sand + earth minerals.. wich make it alot harder.

[BulletHead]

Yeah i agree but.. the wasy he said it : taking him alive was harder then i thought : and that stupid smirk on his face i i just dont know. Well you know what i think Deidara could ''easily'' kill Gaara is to tire him out. To block that huge bomb took quite a bit of chackra soo... Deidara would just have to bring more clay next time and do speed, high dmg bombs to tire gaara out. I think that would work.

Edit: Or not no im, not sure anymore if that would work >.>.

Nope, I think you're right. BRING MORE CLAY. With more clay, Deidara would be able to produce more high explosive bombs that will tire Gaara out. I don't think Deidara's speed is up to Lee's level, same with his clays. But he does have power.

Man... thats why I hate Gaara. He doesn't do anything, he just floats there and get his sand to do all the work. Sure enough it eats up chakra, but he just stands in one place most of the time whereas everyone else actually move around a lot.

[-RX-]

edit : RX, no sorry he isnt at Deidaras level YET. Read my upper post or something i kinda explained it. Gaara didnt underastimate him he gave his best i realy respected that, Deidara was the one who underestimated him. The reason why Shukaku didnt come out was because i think Gaara managed to controll him a little more over the time skip and yeah the story wouldnt work :D.

then the story sucks...Deidara basically won because of luck,if that last attack wouldn't have worked then he would have probably lost.

[BulletHead]

Oh and that thing when Deidara thinking it was harder to capture Gaara alive and his smirk, thats just arrogance and underestimation. Its like Gaara thinking he would be able to beat Lee but what a surprise that was.

[Uchiha_Blaze]

then the story sucks...Deidara basically won because of luck,if that last attack wouldn't have worked then he would have probably lost.

You are ignorant and cheering for 1 cahracter. Dude we are disgusing what tactics could have worked the ither way but then u come along and say meh Deidara sux b00ls and lozt cuz he had luck !!!!!!!!!11eleven11!!!!!. Hes smart and his attacks always work. Hes weekness is his underestimatmend of his opponents. He brought a little bum sack of clay to fight gaara ? I mean like what was he thinking ! Sure he won cause he is powerfull but those things could one day be his grave

[jounin101]

gaara was doomed when he attacked diedara's arm, end of story. that was diedara's plan as soon as he figured out gaara's attack. the sand that attacked the arm also protects gaara, that shows good strategy from diedara. you cant call that luck.
before that happened, the fight was relatively even. had gaara used more sand in that attack and took...lets say diedara's chest, neck, or head as well as that arm, gaara would have won. that just simply wasnt the case.

[V.VELDANEN]

Deidara is just so freakin strong....he is kinda the intelligent fighter...

[qwertyu]

u guys keep saying that deidara is stronger than gaara by stating that his bombs do alot of damage, but the fact is that the bombs is nothing to gaara. Gaara save the entire village against his ultimate bomb/attack with his sand. so therefore it doesnt matter how many bombs deidara attacks gaara with the result would have been the same. gaara cant be hurt by deidara's bombs becaue his ultimate defense will block it. and the part where the sipder bombs exploed inside the ultimate defense didnt really hurt gaara; it only crack his body sand armor. and he only fainted is because he is exhusted after saving the village.

[V.VELDANEN]

I'm not in anyway comparing, but the unravelling of Deidara's skills simply amazed me.

He's definately Akatsuki for the right reasons.

[rkappiyo]

u guys keep saying that deidara is stronger than gaara by stating that his bombs do alot of damage, but the fact is that the bombs is nothing to gaara. Gaara save the entire village against his ultimate bomb/attack with his sand. so therefore it doesnt matter how many bombs deidara attacks gaara with the result would have been the same. gaara cant be hurt by deidara's bombs becaue his ultimate defense will block it. and the part where the sipder bombs exploed inside the ultimate defense didnt really hurt gaara; it only crack his body sand armor. and he only fainted is because he is exhusted after saving the village.

Okay, think about this. You say the bombs that exploded inside his ultimate defense didn't hurt him, but then all that means is that Deidara could have beaten Gaara really easily. All he would have needed to do was pretend to blow up the village, making Gaara waste his energy saving the village, and he would have won, no need to get his arm blown off or fly around avoiding the sand, just one simple technique, and Gaara loses.

[oipotty]

hes definitely worth being a akutski. deidara still, i don't think is as good as sasori

[regina777]

hes definitely worth being a akutski. deidara still, i don't think is as good as sasori


i see your point. Many ask why does he call Sasori--Master?

Is sasori his sensei or what? Well, i hope it is not the situation of say a student being stronger than the master (it doesnt look like it).

Or is Deidara under training for becoming an Akatsuki member not long ago?

So i see two possibilities. We just saw them for the first time. So Either Deidara just joined Akatsuki and is being shown the ropes of the akatsuki world by a senior (master) akatsuki member. Or that Sasori is actually his master and stronger than he is.

[qwertyu]

Okay, think about this. You say the bombs that exploded inside his ultimate defense didn't hurt him, but then all that means is that Deidara could have beaten Gaara really easily. All he would have needed to do was pretend to blow up the village, making Gaara waste his energy saving the village, and he would have won, no need to get his arm blown off or fly around avoiding the sand, just one simple technique, and Gaara loses.

he lost his arm is due to his "plan" he know that whatever he throw at gaara will be block by his ultimate defense, therefore he needed to get a sample of gaara sand in order to fuse his bomb with it. that is why he lost that arm. and the reason that he use that ultimate bomb/attack of his is to make gaara weaken by draining his charkra to save the village. and catch him off guard to make gaara use that sand that he had fuse that bombs with it. and u already know the rest.

[rkappiyo]

he lost his arm is due to his "plan" he know that whatever he throw at gaara will be block by his ultimate defense, therefore he needed to get a sample of gaara sand in order to fuse his bomb with it. that is why he lost that arm. and the reason that he use that ultimate bomb/attack of his is to make gaara weaken by draining his charkra to save the village. and catch him off guard to make gaara use that sand that he had fuse that bombs with it. and u already know the rest.

You missed my point. You said that the spider bombs that blew up inside his defense didn't really hurt him, the only thing that caused him to lose was him using his energy to save the village. If that was the case, he didn't need to use his plan at all, he just needed to use that bomb to pretend to blow up the village, and Gaara would have wasted all of his energy trying to save the village, and Deidara would have won.

[BulletHead]

When Deidara refers Sasori as 'Master Sasori', I thought this is just a respectable form of addressing someone of similar, if not greater abilities. Its like how the Chinese uses the word 'master' to greet or address someone formally and respectfully even if they do not know them personally.
Unless this 'master' has a meaning of a personal level.

[KageNaruto]

u guys keep saying that deidara is stronger than gaara by stating that his bombs do alot of damage, but the fact is that the bombs is nothing to gaara. Gaara save the entire village against his ultimate bomb/attack with his sand. so therefore it doesnt matter how many bombs deidara attacks gaara with the result would have been the same. gaara cant be hurt by deidara's bombs becaue his ultimate defense will block it. and the part where the sipder bombs exploed inside the ultimate defense didnt really hurt gaara; it only crack his body sand armor. and he only fainted is because he is exhusted after saving the village.

By this logic Diedara will win by dropping a whole bunch of bombs on Gaara and he'll just run out of energy and loose-_-

Also, doesen't Dei say Sasori-dono? Sama is more accurate for master.

[regina777]

When Deidara refers Sasori as 'Master Sasori', I thought this is just a respectable form of addressing someone of similar, if not greater abilities. Its like how the Chinese uses the word 'master' to greet or address someone formally and respectfully even if they do not know them personally.


This certainly goes in line with my first suggestion- the senior who has probably more reknown and experience than the other.

Unless this 'master' has a meaning of a personal level.Nice point. That will then raise the question of how personal these guys are? Are they related somehow in a way or form -- **scratches head** -- apart from being in the Akatsuki?

we will have to wait and see

[Hiyo]

I'm going with "Sasori is a master of something and Deidara is showing him respect". Otherwise it'll crush my happyhappy view that the Akatsuki are all equal and individual amongst each other. So far they all seem to be selected from different villages, likely for their strength/abilities. It'd kinda suck if one of them was anothers trainee or something like that.

[regina777]

ahahahaha--

Their relationship certainly looks different than that of Itachi and Kisame. I guess that is why these questions abound about seniority and strength.

i wonder if they will clarify that instead of leaving us with riddles.

[qwertyu]

You missed my point. You said that the spider bombs that blew up inside his defense didn't really hurt him, the only thing that caused him to lose was him using his energy to save the village. If that was the case, he didn't need to use his plan at all, he just needed to use that bomb to pretend to blow up the village, and Gaara would have wasted all of his energy trying to save the village, and Deidara would have won.

that exactly what deidara did at the end when he cant hurt gaara, he tried to blow up the whole village. otherwise he would have jsut flying on that bird to avoid gaara's attacks all night, and be out of clay to make bombs and eventually lose to gaara

[KageNaruto]

that exactly what deidara did at the end when he cant hurt gaara, he tried to blow up the whole village. otherwise he would have jsut flying on that bird to avoid gaara's attacks all night, and be out of clay to make bombs and eventually lose to gaara

Or Gaara runs out of energy and loses to Diedara. By your logic, Gaara only passed out from defending the village. If he kept defending against Diedara's bombs he would have just passed out even earlier, lol.

[rkappiyo]

that exactly what deidara did at the end when he cant hurt gaara, he tried to blow up the whole village. otherwise he would have jsut flying on that bird to avoid gaara's attacks all night, and be out of clay to make bombs and eventually lose to gaara

No, that isn't what he did. He used the spider bombs to hurt him.

Okay, it seems that you aren't getting the point here. Deidara seriously underestimated Gaara and came vastly underprepared, he needed to take him alive, which is much harder to do than to simply kill him, and last but not least, they were fighting on Gaara's home turf, which (if you watch the beginning of their fight) means that the amount of sand available for Gaara to control is much higher than it would be under normal circumstances. Even with those major disadvantages, Deidara still won with a well thought-out plan. What makes you think that otherwise he would have just flied around on his bird? Clearly, he was smart enough to come up with that plan, he should be able to come up with something else given different circumstances.

[Hiyo]

He used the spider bombs to get past Gaaras defenses and used the big bomb to weaken him and make the spider bombs more effective. Sounds like a good plan to me.

Dropping just the big bomb would have meant he'd still have had to find a way thru the sand protecting Gaara.

[qwertyu]

No, that isn't what he did. He used the spider bombs to hurt him.

Okay, it seems that you aren't getting the point here. Deidara seriously underestimated Gaara and came vastly underprepared, he needed to take him alive, which is much harder to do than to simply kill him, and last but not least, they were fighting on Gaara's home turf, which (if you watch the beginning of their fight) means that the amount of sand available for Gaara to control is much higher than it would be under normal circumstances. Even with those major disadvantages, Deidara still won with a well thought-out plan. What makes you think that otherwise he would have just flied around on his bird? Clearly, he was smart enough to come up with that plan, he should be able to come up with something else given different circumstances.

so then what ur saying that deidara is weaker than gaara without his plan? because all the replies that i have read just mention that deidara is smarter than gaara and therefore gaara lose is because he is stupid and did not thought out a plan to counter his opponent? that is what am geting from all the replies. not a single one proves that deidara is stronger than gaara in term of power.

[rkappiyo]

so then what ur saying that deidara is weaker than gaara without his plan? because all the replies that i have read just mention that deidara is smarter than gaara and therefore gaara lose is because he is stupid and did not thought out a plan to counter his opponent? that is what am geting from all the replies. not a single one proves that deidara is stronger than gaara in term of power.

We don't know if he is stronger in terms of power yet. We haven't seen enough in my opinion to make a judgement one way or the other. Also, raw power doesn't mean anything in a fight. I mean, look at half of Naruto's fights, they're against people stronger than him (Shukaku, Kabuto, etc.), and yet he wins every time through trickery.

[KageNaruto]

so then what ur saying that deidara is weaker than gaara without his plan? because all the replies that i have read just mention that deidara is smarter than gaara and therefore gaara lose is because he is stupid and did not thought out a plan to counter his opponent? that is what am geting from all the replies. not a single one proves that deidara is stronger than gaara in term of power.

since when the hell does lone power win a battle?-_-

your argument is sooooooooo flawed

[qwertyu]

since when the hell does lone power win a battle?-_-

your argument is sooooooooo flawed

look at naruto he is pure power and he wins his battle

that is not the point in my post anyway. my point is that deidara is weaker than gaara in terms of power.

[rkappiyo]

look at naruto he is pure power and he wins his battle

No, he isn't. Look at who he fights against half the time. It's against people stronger than him (Kabuto, Shukaku, Neji, etc.). When he fights, he wins with some last second trick that he pulls out of his hat.

[jounin101]

look at naruto he is pure power and he wins his battle

that is not the point in my post anyway. my point is that deidara is weaker than gaara in terms of power.

he kinda owned yall with this post, all of naruto's fights so far were won with pure power(aka rasengan, kyuubi or at least kyuubi chakra)

but others like shikamaru and kakashi are won with more intelligence than power.
you were wrong qwertyu, but naruto was a bad argument for the others to use.

[KageNaruto]

Naruto won just because of purely Kyubi once, against Haku.

All the other times he had to use stragedies and tactics that impressed me more than Shikamaru's. So no, he owned no one with that post jounin.

Just look at the Kiba and Neji battles. And while He did get a power boost in the end of the Neji fight he won it with tactics and on his own (the hole fiasco).

And Gaara may have more 'power' then Diedara but Diedara is stronger.

[rkappiyo]

he kinda owned yall with this post, all of naruto's fights so far were won with pure power(aka rasengan, kyuubi or at least kyuubi chakra)

but others like shikamaru and kakashi are won with more intelligence than power.
you were wrong qwertyu, but naruto was a bad argument for the others to use.

Neji during the chuunin exams. Zabuza. The three genin from the Mist village in the second chuunin exam. There are probably more but I can't remember them all of the top of my head, but none of those were with power.

[qwertyu]

No, he isn't. Look at who he fights against half the time. It's against people stronger than him (Kabuto, Shukaku, Neji, etc.). When he fights, he wins with some last second trick that he pulls out of his hat.

he did not win against Neji by pulling out some trick from his hat (whatever that mean) he was using the power of the nine tails. because neji seal away his charkra. that is frigging pure power man

[rkappiyo]

he did not win against Neji by pulling out some trick from his hat (whatever that mean) he was using the power of the nine tails. because neji seal away his charkra. that is frigging pure power man

Remember when he was supposedly knocked out and lying in a hole, except then he comes from under the ground and knocks out Neji? That is what is called a trick.

[KageNaruto]

zabzua? you mean haku. and thats the only time. what are you on dude?

he beat neji in his normal form without kyubi chakra. note the word BEAT. he fought him though at one point with it

the three mist nin with kyubi chakra-_-? wtf?

[qwertyu]

Remember when he was supposedly knocked out and lying in a hole, except then he comes from under the ground and knocks out Neji? That is what is called a trick.

it a trick with PURE power that win against Neji.

[jounin101]

Neji during the chuunin exams. Zabuza. The three genin from the Mist village in the second chuunin exam. There are probably more but I can't remember them all of the top of my head, but none of those were with power.

wtf, he beat neji cause of pure kyuubi power. that shit overwhelmed kaiten, then naruto had enough strength left to dig and uppercut. sure the clone was on top of the hole, but overall, that was cause kyuubi is naruto's steroids. those 3 genin from the mist village...the ones who attacked that kid and his mom? Ur digging really deep for evidence huh? they arent worth mentioning. and zabuza was actually cunning, but he didnt win the fight off of that, cause he wasnt fighting zabuza.

[Hiyo]

This fight alone doesn't prove that Gaara was even close to Deidara in level. Deidara had to capture Gaara, not kill him. Remember Gai and Neji having a tough time stopping Lee when he drank sake?

It was already stated Deidara came unprepared for the fight. Had he had twice as many bags and wanted to kill Gaara he could have made multiple huge bombs, and attacked the city and then Gaara right after.

How can you make a comparision power-wise between the two? Gaara uses a lot of sand so that must mean he has more pure power? Deidara could be packing 20 times the chakra into his bombs to create those explosions, in which case he'd be a hell of a lot stronger than Gaara :P

There's no definite way to compare them from what they've shown :P


Oh and I agree that Naruto didn't use pure power for most of his fights. He didn't beat Neji cause of pure power, didn't beat Kabuto at all, only beat Gaara/Shukaku cause he was able to summon Gamabunta. His fights were actually varied. He is also the main character, and Kyuubi is a major part of that. Naruto having "his own strength" is also important. So his fights are obvioulsy going to be more emotional and powerful than someone like Shikamaru.

[rkappiyo]

it a trick with PURE power that win against Neji.

Yes, he needed power to perform the trick, and Deidara needed power to perform the trick he used, as well. Also, saying a trick is pure power is a contradiction in terms, pure power is just running over everyone in sight with sheer power, a trick is using your head. And you haven't addressed my other objections: Zabuza (he got Kakashi out of the water prison), and the Mist three (tricked them into thinking that the entire team was attacking).

[qwertyu]

Yes, he needed power to perform the trick, and Deidara needed power to perform the trick he used, as well. Also, saying a trick is pure power is a contradiction in terms, pure power is just running over everyone in sight with sheer power, a trick is using your head. And you haven't addressed my other objections: Zabuza (he got Kakashi out of the water prison), and the Mist three (tricked them into thinking that the entire team was attacking).

i didnt say that TRICKS = pure power when did i say that. ur the one that brings it up in that naruto vs. Neji.

deidara didnt come prepares i get that but then again gaara didnt tap into his one tail power. so that also mean that gaara also didnt come prepare.

[KageNaruto]

i didnt say that TRICKS = pure power when did i say that. ur the one that brings it up in that naruto vs. Neji.

deidara didnt come prepares i get that but then again gaara didnt tap into his one tail power. so that also mean that gaara also didnt come prepare.

Gaara using 1 tail's power means transforming into him, in which case he cant control sand. Sitting duck for Diedara.

Not to mention youre saying Naruto's fights were pure power. We just owned that argument.

[qwertyu]

when i say tap into the one tail power i didnt mean letting it take over. because gaara by now can somewhat gain some control over that demon. you know like gaining some of the demon charka.

[KageNaruto]

when i say tap into the one tail power i didnt mean letting it take over. because gaara by now can somewhat gain some control over that demon. you know like gaining some of the demon charka.

Rofl, what proof do you have of this? From the info we got on his seal, he can't tap into it like Naruto's, Naruto's is special. All Gaara has is auto-defense and transformation. I'm zorry but so far all your arguments were innacurate and untrue.

[rkappiyo]

i didnt say that TRICKS = pure power when did i say that. ur the one that brings it up in that naruto vs. Neji.

deidara didnt come prepares i get that but then again gaara didnt tap into his one tail power. so that also mean that gaara also didnt come prepare.

You said it right here:

it a trick with PURE power that win against Neji.

wtf, he beat neji cause of pure kyuubi power. that shit overwhelmed kaiten, then naruto had enough strength left to dig and uppercut. sure the clone was on top of the hole, but overall, that was cause kyuubi is naruto's steroids. those 3 genin from the mist village...the ones who attacked that kid and his mom? Ur digging really deep for evidence huh? they arent worth mentioning. and zabuza was actually cunning, but he didnt win the fight off of that, cause he wasnt fighting zabuza.

No, I wasn't digging deep, I was rewatching old episodes and that was the last one that I watched before I saw your reply... With the fight with Neji, yes it was a massive amount of power, that power alone wasn't enough. In the fight against Neji, simply trying to hit him would have made him lose the fight, but he used his head to dig the hole.

Look, I agree that Naruto uses a lot of power, it's just that that power alone is never enough for him to win, he always has to use some thinking power as well. Same thing for Deidara vs. Gaara. If Deidara didn't have the power to create that massive nuke, then regardless of what planning he might have done, he would have been screwed. In other words, yes, power isn't everything, but of course it counts for something.

Edit: @KageNaruto Uhh... yeah, completely forgot. Sorry.

[KageNaruto]

Anime Zone Dude! Anime! Erase The Spoilers Now!

Edit: Yah Rkap try to keep that in mind, lol. But since you got rid of them before anybody saw it I guess the crisis was averted, good job.

[qwertyu]

i said it a trick with pure power that win against neji meaning that he was using the fox charka (pure power) and then he dig that hole (trick) to win agaist neji. it mean that he perform that trick while using the fox's power. that didnt imply that trick equal pure power.

[KageNaruto]

i said it a trick with pure power that win against neji meaning that he was using the fox charka (pure power) and then he dig that hole (trick) to win agaist neji. it mean that he perform that trick while using the fox's power. that didnt imply that trick equal pure power.

Actually he was normal Naruto, I already said this

[KS07]

Yay! This episode was really good! I love it how we're getting another hour long episode next time!

[rkappiyo]

i said it a trick with pure power that win against neji meaning that he was using the fox charka (pure power) and then he dig that hole (trick) to win agaist neji. it mean that he perform that trick while using the fox's power. that didnt imply that trick equal pure power.

Okay, but even then, the thing is, I agree power is important, just that Naruto wouldn't have won half of his fights if that was all he had. He usually comes up with some plan to win, as well.

[Uchiha_Blaze]

hes definitely worth being a akutski. deidara still, i don't think is as good as sasori

pahlese Sasori is prob the second strongest member after AL. Or i just think that cause im a puppet fanboi :>

[Flyin]

Meh, all Sasori's got is some crazy tail...which isn't a bad thing nessecarilly, but on a guy? No, it's not cool. Besides, look at how hunched over and crap he is, that ain't cool! He's got the wicked smokers voice. I'm not saying he's not strong, but he doesn't seem like he could be the strongest by any means.

Itachi and Kisame are easily stronger.

[Uchiha_Blaze]

Meh, all Sasori's got is some crazy tail...which isn't a bad thing nessecarilly, but on a guy? No, it's not cool. Besides, look at how hunched over and crap he is, that ain't cool! He's got the wicked smokers voice. I'm not saying he's not strong, but he doesn't seem like he could be the strongest by any means.

Itachi and Kisame are easily stronger.

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[jounin101]

Meh, all Sasori's got is some crazy tail...which isn't a bad thing nessecarilly, but on a guy? No, it's not cool. Besides, look at how hunched over and crap he is, that ain't cool! He's got the wicked smokers voice. I'm not saying he's not strong, but he doesn't s