[Character] Uchiha Sasuke

[thornofcarrion]

So basically, Sword of Kusanagi that Oro had was available to everyone; however, the sword of Totsuka is exclusively available to Sharingan user only?

Gay... imo...

Well my friend there are so many loop holes lately in the story that it makes me yell sometimes with detest. It is happening because Mr. Kishi is changing the storyline and making things in the middle of chapters. Not preplanned it would seem.

Kishi has to stopped or limit his love for Sasuke and Uchiha. Ok he concieved a good idea for Uchiha & Sasuke but now he has to let go. he does not have to make Sasuke a god and later be beaten by Naruto (though I wonder it will ever going to happen).

[HyperShadow]

Well my friend there are so many loop holes lately in the story that it makes me yell sometimes with detest. It is happening because Mr. Kishi is changing the storyline and making things in the middle of chapters. Not preplanned it would seem.

Kishi has to stopped or limit his love for Sasuke and Uchiha. Ok he concieved a good idea for Uchiha & Sasuke but now he has to let go. he does not have to make Sasuke a god and later be beaten by Naruto (though I wonder it will ever going to happen).

The ability that Itachi gave him will allow Naruto to defeat Sasuke.

[Owenotto]

not as simple as that... their fight will be epic and naruto indeed has to win...

[-Erios-]

no Naruto is gonna loose to sasuke ....making sasuke look even more godly than he is now then after that Naruto is gonna keep on trying to bring his dear friend back home...

[Erotique]

no Naruto is gonna loose to sasuke ....making sasuke look even more godly than he is now then after that Naruto is gonna keep on trying to bring his dear friend back home...

*shrugs* That's one way to expand Kishi's 9 year Manga career even further...

[Tazuwukei]

no Naruto is gonna loose to sasuke ....making sasuke look even more godly than he is now then after that Naruto is gonna keep on trying to bring his dear friend back home...

I think I'd stop reading at that point...

[blind]

*shrugs* That's one way to expand Kishi's 9 year Manga career even further...

If Sasuke does "beat" Naruto, unless something changes his mind during the fight, I'd think Sasuke would just flat out kill Naruto, hence, end of manga. :)

[Erotique]

If Sasuke does "beat" Naruto, unless something changes his mind during the fight, I'd think Sasuke would just flat out kill Naruto, hence, end of manga. :)

Pft, and what, have picture of Sasugay's MS face at the end of the last chapter page and goes "Sorry Naruto-fans, you were all under my sharingan genjutsu for the whole time?"

[mandelak]

naruto will be different when he comes back for sure.

sage chakra can't be seen even with sharingan. so being in sage mode will give him an advantage coz none of his movements or jutsu can be seen. well seen but not predicted or copied. im assuming sharingan uses seeing chakra as a way to predict the movements. they are able to see the chakra in your body. and able to see what the chakra is doing and where its going. thats why they can predict your movements i think.

in sage mode there is none of that.

also naruto is going to be stuck in that mountain for a long time. lets just hope kishi at least this time allows for him to train in controlling kyuubi or even learn more frog jutsu.

sasuke will be beter too, but unless he takes itachis eyes his eyes will have worsen.

i just dont think it will be as easy as you think it will be. sasuke will not mop the floor with naruto. he never has and never will. and i dont think he will win the next fight.

on top of that he still will have kyuubi chakra to tap into and also the itachi trump card. what ever he gave naruto is what he would need to fight sasuke equally possible or stop him permanently.

[teh mirage]

lol, yeah, but what did he actually learn or do? He went into the cage, demanded some chakra, and poof, there he goes. It's not like he had to learn anything for that.


he had to learn to summon the big frog with jiraiyas training, then he got thrown off a cliff....then he finally learned to borrow kyuubi chakra.

[mandelak]

he hasnt been taught anything until imo. he had to be taught the basics. thats what jiraya did i think for the whole time. considering how long it takes to explain something to naruto mostly back then i understand why it took that long.

now with the toads he will learn the advanced stuff and will come back a beast

[Erotique]

Naruto being more beastier or no, I'm frankly tired of his brute strength department logic. His only tactical jutsu is kagebunshin, and that alone has been played for the last nine years along with his rasengan. I think it's time for Naruto to have something "different" and more... "dynamic" in terms of his battle tactics other than relying on "ONE-HIT-WONDER" jutsu like FRS and etc...

But then again, that's just my point of view on things...

[animeking]

This thread, and every Sasuke discussion has made me dread the world EMO! >.<

[Naru-Ichi]

sage chakra can't be seen even with sharingan. so being in sage mode will give him an advantage coz none of his movements or jutsu can be seen. well seen but not predicted or copied. im assuming sharingan uses seeing chakra as a way to predict the movements. they are able to see the chakra in your body. and able to see what the chakra is doing and where its going. thats why they can predict your movements i think..

I believe they are able to predict movements because it seems like their opponents are moving in slow motion.

[mandelak]

the reason i think it is through reading the chakra. is because sharingan see's chakra and chakra is the key thing that allows ninja to do what ever it is they need to do. so if they can see the chakra doing something before the human body actually does than they pick up on that and probably the rest is instict or whatever.

so lets say kakashi is pumping chakra to his legs to make a quick dash to sasuke. sasuke being able to see chakra, NOT THE FLOW just the chakra, is able to see that there is a big amount of chakra build up in a certain place and then will predict his movements with that. there is probably more behind it but i think its that. because if it was just on how the person moves alone than kyuubi cloak shouldnt have any effect on them being able to predict a movement. when clearly sasuke said that it is hard to predict the movement of naruto that time because it was like the chakra had a mind of its own and was moving differently to what naruto was. so that confused him

[Naru-Ichi]

If their prediction ability was just by focusing on the chakra in the body then it would fail against taijutsu users like lee. He doesn't seem to gather chakra into a specific place when he attacks. I think it has to do with how their opponent seems to be moving in at a slow pace (remember Kakashi having to cover his eyes because he could see Naruto's lips moving).

[blind]

If their prediction ability was just by focusing on the chakra in the body then it would fail against taijutsu users like lee. He doesn't seem to gather chakra into a specific place when he attacks. I think it has to do with how their opponent seems to be moving in at a slow pace (remember Kakashi having to cover his eyes because he could see Naruto's lips moving).

Everyone has a chakra system, even taijutsu users like Lee have chakra running through them, that's what Sharingan is reading. It reads motion by reading it's chakra, which was confirmed by Sasuke fighting Naruto, when Naruto used Kyuubi, Sasuke couldn't decide which one to read, Kyuubi's chakra or Naruto, hence got confused.

[the lost shinobi]

Everyone has a chakra system, even taijutsu users like Lee have chakra running through them, that's what Sharingan is reading. It reads motion by reading it's chakra, which was confirmed by Sasuke fighting Naruto, when Naruto used Kyuubi, Sasuke couldn't decide which one to read, Kyuubi's chakra or Naruto, hence got confused.

no he couldn't decide which movement to follow. Since the chakra formed a cloak around the body, in essence it was a body that was moving. He couldn't see the motion of the chakra cloak. It's not the flow of the chakra in the body as you said, but rather the actual motion of the chakra through the air
http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/231/07/


There were also scenes when Naruto didn't have the cloak but was too fast for the Sharingan to catch up to
chapter 229 evidenced that.

And when Sasuke fought Lee, he couldn't see Lee's muscular movements because he was just too fast. It had nothing to do with chakra
http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/37/Naruto37-17/

[blind]

no he couldn't decide which movement to follow. Since the chakra formed a cloak around the body, in essence it was a body that was moving. He couldn't see the motion of the chakra cloak. It's not the flow of the chakra in the body as you said, but rather the actual motion of the chakra through the air
http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/231/07/


That scene just proves that Kyuubi's chakra is different than Naruto's, so when Sasuke tries to read Naruto's chakra movements, he couldn't do so because "it had a mind of it's own".


There were also scenes when Naruto didn't have the cloak but was too fast for the Sharingan to catch up to
chapter 229 evidenced that.

That was with two tomoe Sharingan.


And when Sasuke fought Lee, he couldn't see Lee's muscular movements because he was just too fast. It had nothing to do with chakra
http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/37/Naruto37-17/

What he can see and what he can physically react to are two different things. He can see it coming, but if he isn't able to react to it, it wouldn't do him much good.

[the lost shinobi]

but your saying the sharingan can see the chakra in the circulatory system while it's running through the body, which is a property of the Byakugan

[blind]

but your saying the sharingan can see the chakra in the circulatory system while it's running through the body, which is a property of the Byakugan

Sharingan can see chakra as well, as it's been shown during the Sasuke vs. Deidara fight. Unless that was a mistake by Kishi, I don't see why he couldn't have seen and predicted Naruto's movements back then.

[the lost shinobi]

Sharingan can see chakra as well, as it's been shown during the Sasuke vs. Deidara fight. Unless that was a mistake by Kishi, I don't see why he couldn't have seen and predicted Naruto's movements back then.

but not inside the body like you said in your post

[blind]

but not inside the body like you said in your post

Well then how exactly is it "predicting" all these movements? I'm just linking the fact that they can see chakra with how their movements are predicted. Sure, it's a property of Byakyugan (which sees it in much greater detail, might I add), why couldn't Sharingan share the same property?

[the lost shinobi]

Well then how exactly is it "predicting" all these movements? I'm just linking the fact that they can see chakra with how their movements are predicted. Sure, it's a property of Byakyugan (which sees it in much greater detail, might I add), why couldn't Sharingan share the same property?

Because it's following the actual movement of the persons body and then predicting the movement based on the twitches of the muscle. Not the chakra

[blind]

Because it's following the actual movement of the persons body and then predicting the movement based on the twitches of the muscle. Not the chakra

And since chakra is so vital to shinobis, who's to say it's not following the chakra? The biggest thing for me is that he got confused when Naruto was using Kyuubi's chakra, he couldn't predict its movement because it wasn't his target.

[the lost shinobi]

And since chakra is so vital to shinobis, who's to say it's not following the chakra? The biggest thing for me is that he got confused when Naruto was using Kyuubi's chakra, he couldn't predict its movement because it wasn't his target.

yeah but this chakra was outside the body and had a defined form to it. not like Deidara's jutsu which was a cloud. Sharingan can see high speed movement but I don't think it can see chakra within the body

[blind]

yeah but this chakra was outside the body and had a defined form to it. not like Deidara's jutsu which was a cloud. Sharingan can see high speed movement but I don't think it can see chakra within the body

I don't see why not, if it can see muscle twitches, it can probably see chakra systems as well, since the chakra circulatory system is embedded in the muscles as well anyways. Each to their own I guess.

[the lost shinobi]

but muscle twitches are visible to the naked eye just like the kyuubi arm he couldn't predict. I'll agree to disagree too.

[nagato]

narutos gotta learn more variation of ninjutsu and seroiusly work on his tiajutsu.

[blind]

Taijutsu he's already learning. Frog Katas is a form of taijutsu from what we've seen.

[Naru-Ichi]

Everyone has a chakra system, even taijutsu users like Lee have chakra running through them, that's what Sharingan is reading. It reads motion by reading it's chakra, which was confirmed by Sasuke fighting Naruto, when Naruto used Kyuubi, Sasuke couldn't decide which one to read, Kyuubi's chakra or Naruto, hence got confused.

But the chakra is just flowing through Lee, he isn't really focusing it to a certain point so how would it be able to predict based on chakra?

[mandelak]

if it was solely on the slow movement of a shinobi than fighting naruto in cloaked mode would have messed him up because he could see the body, but thats not the case. since kyuubis chakra was moving independently he got confused with which to follow.


another example is kakashi vs zabuza. go back to that chapter and see. kakashi was able to do zabuza's jutsu before he did. and also he was able to do water dragon against kisame

[DonEmu]

Actually i was under the impression that Sasuke couldn't read Naruto during that fight because the Kyuubi chakra was acting independently off Naruto. So while he could see Naruto's movements, he couldn't anticipate the movement of the Kyuubi chakra which lashed out at Sasuke. Kinda like trying to read a drunken Lee.

@Mandalek, Kakashi was able to do the jutsu before Zabuza because he hynotised Zabuza into doing that particular jutsu. From the start he knew which jutsu was coming, it was all part of the plan to confuse Zabuza into thinking that Kakashi could predict the future.

[mandelak]

what about the water dragon on kisame and on zabuza. i dont think he hypnotized him when he used water dragon at the same time.

he was able to predict what jutsu kisame was going to use and used the same thing to block it. thats what i think he done the first time against zabuza, but the vortex was him controlling zabuza

[DonEmu]

what about the water dragon on kisame and on zabuza. i dont think he hypnotized him when he used water dragon at the same time.

he was able to predict what jutsu kisame was going to use and used the same thing to block it. thats what i think he done the first time against zabuza, but the vortex was him controlling zabuza

It was explained during his fight with Zabuza that he used hypnosis of the sharingan to make Zabuza use that specific jutsu so that he could beat him to it making it look like he predicted the future. I dont see your example with Kisame, Kakashi knows how to use the jutsu, all he has to do is sea the seals that Kisame does to know what was coming and block it with the same thing.

And what vortex are u talking about?

[blind]

But the chakra is just flowing through Lee, he isn't really focusing it to a certain point so how would it be able to predict based on chakra?

He doesn't have to? Chakra is flowing through his body, Sharingan sees the chakra system, that's what I think helps it predicts the movement of that body.

[Naru-Ichi]

He doesn't have to? Chakra is flowing through his body, Sharingan sees the chakra system, that's what I think helps it predicts the movement of that body.

Sharingan doesn't see the chakra system, that's what the byakugan does.

[White Snake 66]

i think he still does see it. I mean he said it showed him the chakra in different colors so im sure he is able to see it

[DonEmu]

i think he still does see it. I mean he said it showed him the chakra in different colors so im sure he is able to see it

I agree with Naru-Ichi...

Sharingan can see the chakra around the person, or when it is released, but it can't see the system cause that is what makes the Byakugan the Byakugan.

In predicting movements, i think it just studies the muscle movement extremely precisely. Kinda like having a compound eye.

Sharingan doesn't see the chakra system, that's what the byakugan does.

Right, that is what makes Byakugan special.

[Arty]

The Sharingan has the ability to see the world in "chakra-form"

It also has the ability to manipulate it through the pupils...

thats all.

[blind]

Sharingan doesn't see the chakra system, that's what the byakugan does.

That's your opinion then, as I've said earlier, being able to see muscles twitching and being able to see chakra system could very well be closely related. Yes, you could see the twitching with the naked eye, but to me to be able to predict one's movement would require more than just seeing these twitches.

[DonEmu]

When Byakugan was introduced. Kakashi implied that it had a level of insight surpassing the sharingan making it able to see the chakra circuitry, his whole explanation implied that the sharingan wasn't capable of this.

[blind]

Yes, however, the difference between the two could be the level of detail that the user could see. As you've said, Byakyugan's level of insight surpass ther Sharingan's, and since Byakyugan can see tenketsus, Sharingans being able to see bodies of chakra (or the circulatory system vaguely) could be enough for it's prediction capabilities.

Although in the fight against Deidara, Sasuke's ability to see the bombs that are pretty much invisible confirms to me that he could see is detail quite well.

[White Snake 66]

When sasuke had those bombs in his blood didnt he look at his hand and saw the flow of chakra?????

[blind]

When sasuke had those bombs in his blood didnt he look at his hand and saw the flow of chakra?????

I don't think he actually saw it, it was just in his explanation (Kishi's) that showed that.

[Erotique]

I don't think he actually saw it, it was just in his explanation (Kishi's) that showed that.

Yes and no.

I do agree that perhaps, the microscopic illustration of Deidara's chakra bomb coursing through Sasuke's vein was indeed, an illustration; however, the fact that Sasuke did stared at his arm with an added WTF facial expression, shows that he did "saw" something. Maybe not the magnifying vision or sort, but perhaps, numerous microscopic chakra bombs coursing through his veins may have given enough chakra glows to be identified via his normal vision.

[mandelak]

the reason i think he was able to see them in his body is because he was able to see the chakra in the micro boms. so by looking at his chakra deis chakra was probably diff colour or was different in a way he could just see and tell where it was. not see the system exactly, but he can see that they were in there.


and for the hypnosis wasnt that with just the vortex at the end of the first fight. it was huge vortex whirl thingy. in the english anime they called it vortex or something.

i guess the kisame one doesnt count here.

anyways if all it did was read the body movement than sasuke following naruto that time shouldnt have been a problem seeing as naruto was only 1 body when sasuke said that he wasnt 50 clones or what ever.

so the reason why i think they read the chakra and use that and other stuff to predict the movement is based of that 1 time sasuke couldnt follow narutos movements when he had fox cloak.

it wasnt because he was 2 fast it was because the fox chakra had a mind of its own pretty much and sasuke got confused i think. if he was reading the bodies movements than that demon cloak shouldnt have been an issue in that fight.

[blind]

Yes and no.

I do agree that perhaps, the microscopic illustration of Deidara's chakra bomb coursing through Sasuke's vein was indeed, an illustration; however, the fact that Sasuke did stared at his arm with an added WTF facial expression, shows that he did "saw" something. Maybe not the magnifying vision or sort, but perhaps, numerous microscopic chakra bombs coursing through his veins may have given enough chakra glows to be identified via his normal vision.

Nevermind, you're right:

http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/361/05/

He did see the bombs. Which strengthens my point, if he can see that, then why not chakra system.

[Sasuke Uchiha.]

Sasuke is My favorite character he is awesome.:D

[kiroisenko]

I hate this guy now he have in other goal crush konoha.WHICH IS PEIN SATRT ALREADY.

[Owenotto]

Sasuke is My favorite character he is awesome.:D

wow, i agree..........^_____^

[Naru-Ichi]

Even if they are able to see the chakra system (which I am skeptical of), how would that help them predict movements?

[blind]

Even if they are able to see the chakra system (which I am skeptical of), how would that help them predict movements?

Chakra is pretty much used in all facet of being a shinobi, if one can predict the jutsu that'll be used based on chakra flow, why not body movement?

[mandelak]

(click me) (http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/243/02/)

read that. it might clear up some stuff.

sharingan can read the flow and movement of chakra so. like i said it is most likely how they can predict a persons movement.

they cant see the system like byakugan, but can still see it flow through the body and can see the build up of chakra or more.

[Erotique]

In terms of Sharingan "prediction," I wouldn't say that Sharingan actually "predict" but rather, "illustrates" the movement before their very vision (hence, the illustration of Naruto's movement via Sasuke's Sharingan vision in VotE). In terms of Itachi's Tsukuyomi's effect, the genjutsu traps the opponents to total of 72 hours in a blink of an eye... This, along with Sharingan's "movement illustration" all coincides that Sharingan itself grants some sort of visual time-warping ability to its posessor...

But then again, this is just my theory and nothing more.

[rasenproc]

In terms of Sharingan "prediction," I wouldn't say that Sharingan actually "predict" but rather, "illustrates" the movement before their very vision (hence, the illustration of Naruto's movement via Sasuke's Sharingan vision in VotE). In terms of Itachi's Tsukuyomi's effect, the genjutsu traps the opponents to total of 72 hours in a blink of an eye... This, along with Sharingan's "movement illustration" all coincides that Sharingan itself grants some sort of visual time-warping ability to its posessor...

But then again, this is just my theory and nothing more.

the time warping thing makes sense to me. it may explain how madara can go so far in an instant

[Naru-Ichi]

Chakra is pretty much used in all facet of being a shinobi, if one can predict the jutsu that'll be used based on chakra flow, why not body movement?

Does it actually predict what jutsu will be used?

What I meant was that how can they actually predict simple punches and kicks that doesn't really build up chakra? Plus, how does that actually predict since just because you see the chakra build up doesn't mean you know where they are going to attack you or anything.

[blind]

Does it actually predict what jutsu will be used?

What I meant was that how can they actually predict simple punches and kicks that doesn't really build up chakra? Plus, how does that actually predict since just because you see the chakra build up doesn't mean you know where they are going to attack you or anything.

Different jutsus require different handseals, which aids the user mold chakra. So yes, by seeing chakra flow, it's theoretically possible to predict what jutsu a user is about to use.

As for physical attacks, I've already explained that since almost everything that a shinobi does require jutsu, why not physical movements?

[Naru-Ichi]

Different jutsus require different handseals, which aids the user mold chakra. So yes, by seeing chakra flow, it's theoretically possible to predict what jutsu a user is about to use.

As for physical attacks, I've already explained that since almost everything that a shinobi does require jutsu, why not physical movements?

When has a sharingan user predicted (not copied) what jutsu (one they haven't seen) a shinobi was about to use?

You mean chakra? But that still doesn't answer the question, if a shinobi like lee was running to attack, how could you predict where they are going to strike you by just seeing chakra build up in a certain part of the body?

[blind]

When has a sharingan user predicted (not copied) what jutsu (one they haven't seen) a shinobi was about to use?

lol, that's why I said it's theoretically possible.

Kakashi said while watching Chiyo: "That jutsu...". Whether that's because he saw the jutsu with his eye or his Sharingan, that's debatable, he did have his Sharingan on at that moment anyways.


You mean chakra? But that still doesn't answer the question, if a shinobi like lee was running to attack, how could you predict where they are going to strike you by just seeing chakra build up in a certain part of the body?

Since a shinobi's chakra and muscle system is so reliant on each other (Muscle using chakra to enhance performance, chakra being a shinobi's life force), I don't see why not.

[Naru-Ichi]

lol, that's why I said it's theoretically possible.

Kakashi said while watching Chiyo: "That jutsu...". Whether that's because he saw the jutsu with his eye or his Sharingan, that's debatable, he did have his Sharingan on at that moment anyways.

Like you said, that could have been because of his sharingan or it could've been because of her words. I was talking about if a sharingan user never saw a jutsu before doesn't mean he knows what the jutsu can do or anything.

Since a shinobi's chakra and muscle system is so reliant on each other (Muscle using chakra to enhance performance, chakra being a shinobi's life force), I don't see why not.

But does a simple punch actually use chakra?

http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/90/04/

However, I wouldn't be surprised if their prediction ability relied on both their ability to see things in slow motion and the ability to see the chakra.

[blind]

Like you said, that could have been because of his sharingan or it could've been because of her words. I was talking about if a sharingan user never saw a jutsu before doesn't mean he knows what the jutsu can do or anything.


Well obviously not, but if it's a jutsu that he's copied or seen before, he'll recognize it, assuming he/she does not know all the jutsus in Narutoverse and their handseals.

[Lizard]

However, I wouldn't be surprised if their prediction ability relied on both their ability to see things in slow motion and the ability to see the chakra.

Does it really see things in slow motion?
I've been hearing this from different people, but don't remember ever reading about it myself.

[JD021]

yup thats why they could read lightning fast hand seals

[thornofcarrion]

Does it really see things in slow motion?
I've been hearing this from different people, but don't remember ever reading about it myself.

Well it can. Not remembering which chapters but it should be the ones when they fought Zabuza.

[Izanagi]

well in the fight sasuke vs naruto in the valley of the end, sasuke said that he can read his movements before he even attacks, so i'm not sure if its slow motion though...(p.s: its episode 133 if my memory serves me right, "roar of tears, you are my friend")

[KageNaruto]

Sharingan does not see in slow motion. -_-

Sigh...

http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/230/08/

[mandelak]

if he could read narutos body movements and wasnt using the chakra to predict.

then how did sasuke not keep up with naruto in demon cloak. there was still a body present he could've just followed narutos body.

he got confused with which chakra pattern to follow. so he couldnt predict the movements.


by power im assuming sasuke meant chakra.

coz if you read this page (click me) (http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/230/10/)

he says the curse seal takes to much power which obviously he meant chakra

[KageNaruto]

if he could read narutos body movements and wasnt using the chakra to predict.

then how did sasuke not keep up with naruto in demon cloak. there was still a body present he could've just followed narutos body.



Actually, it seems more likely that he can't predict THE chakra.

http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/231/06/

http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/231/07/

He IS reading Naruto's body. And is unable to read the chakra. For those of you who are to lazy to open the pages. So it seems the development is that Sharingan simply reads the body, the way martial artists do in real life, only to an extent possible in manga and anime. Chakra has nothing to do with it. Which from the beginning seemed obvious as hell to me...

[mandelak]

hmmm i guess so. so what is the point of the sharingans capabilty to see chakra then.

i was thinking chakra was it's insight to everything. reading and understand seals. seeing movement before it happens.

how would u see what the body is not doing.

so its either it has to do with chakra as well or he sees what naruto is thinking therefore predicting his movements.

i understand what you mean in the normal martial arts way, but what sasuke was doing there was predicting narutos movements from miles away before his body even moved.

well gai does fight sharingan by watching their feet and not making eye contact so for sure their prediction is linked to seeing it somehow through their eyes. possibly reading their thoughts in a way.

because i remember when naruto saw itachi in the forest before getting itachis crow in his mouth.

naruto was thinking in his head "when fighting against sharingan 1 on 1 you should run" or something like that. and then itachi said out loud it seems like you have learnt a bit about fighting sharingan.

so i think they read their thoughts through their eyes so are able to predict their next move because they can see what they are thinking.

sort of like when sasuke was in narutos head with kyuubi



i hope that makes sense lol its all jambled

[KageNaruto]

They are not reading minds. -_-

Sharingan can see chakra. Yes. Does this mean it can predict chakra? No. Fallacy.

Chakra controlling movement still makes no sense. Even if every move had to do with chakra, the chakra would work along with the movement, not before it. This would make the exact same case as simply predicting the body. Don't read THIS much into it or else you sound stupid, this series is still a fantasy.

Like I said, the body has slight tensions, as well as momentum when it moves. The Sharingan is just using that to an unrealistic degree to predict what will happen next. Chakra is freeroaming, following no set form, which would explain a chakra manifesting into actual shape being unpredictable. It's not miles. It's centiseconds. However, this makes the difference.

Anybody with an average IQ could have guessed what Naruto was thinking in that Itachi situation.

What you are saying can be gotten across, but does it make sense? Not to me.

[Lizard]

When has a sharingan user predicted (not copied) what jutsu (one they haven't seen) a shinobi was about to use?


Kakashi was able to predict that Itachi's clone was about to explode.
Or so it seemed.

[KageNaruto]

The jutsu had already been used however. We know Sharingan can see chakra, and we know it can detect obscurities within it as within Kakashi Gaiden.

He is talking about the jutsu not even being activated yet, just in the process.

[thornofcarrion]

Sasuke is love of Kishi, so don't you say anything to him. He is going to be God in Naruto. With each screent ime he is getting damn powerful. Hate him now. Overstated character.

[-Erios-]

Sasuke is love of Kishi, so don't you say anything to him. He is going to be God in Naruto. With each screent ime he is getting damn powerful. Hate him now. Overstated character.

there's no need to hate on sasuke. i personally realized what kind of character he was the moment he made that impossible escape against deidara. save yourself some aggravation and stop taking sasuke so seriously.

[Seraphiel]

there's no need to hate on sasuke. i personally realized what kind of character he was the moment he made that impossible escape against deidara. save yourself some aggravation and stop taking sasuke so seriously.

The escape was possible if he would have been out of chakra he would have died.

[Naru-Ichi]

Yes because it is possible to summon Manda, have him look in your eyes and genjutsu him, jump in his mouth, and unsummon him in a matter of seconds.

[KageNaruto]

Yes because it is possible to summon Manda, have him look in your eyes and genjutsu him, jump in his mouth, and unsummon him in a matter of seconds.

He didn't unsummon him. Manda was hit by the blast and poofed back to the Snake Realm. Hence why he died. He got hit.

[Erotique]

He didn't unsummon him. Manda was hit by the blast and poofed back to the Snake Realm. Hence why he died. He got hit.

It's not just that.

According to Kishi's illustration (unless the one he illustrated right next to Deidara was a shadow clone, but highly doubtful), Sasuke was there and witnessed the flow of Deidara's gathering of chakra to the pinpoint and to the blink of an explosion.

So within that "blink" of a moment, he summoned Manda, genjutsued his big arse, have him its mouth open, and he jumped up to its mouth to avoid the full blast of Deidara's Kamikaze attack...

ALL WITHIN A MERE FRACTION OF A SECOND, AND DID THEM ALL WITHOUT ANY CHAKRA LEFT...

So in return, Sasugay pretty much earned the title of David Copperfield of Narutoverse...

Pft... gay.

Edit: Oh nvm, you were just trying to correct the "unsummon" part... Nevertheless, my reason for bi*ching and moaning still stands dammit!~ :p

[KageNaruto]

He had chakra left. Only Deidara kept boasting that he was out of chakra. Sasuke did not think or say this once.

The rest IS BS though.

[Erotique]

He had chakra left. Only Deidara kept boasting that he was out of chakra. Sasuke did not think or say this once.

Sasuke himself did not announced that he was out of chakra; however, even if he did ran out of chakra, would he tell his enemy that he is out of his ammo? And even if he DID have some measure of chakra left, that still don't justify his escape for what I've said previously above.

At least, this is how I see it.

Edit: Ooopse, yes, I agree on your "rest is a BS" part... >.<

[KageNaruto]

Pretty much every character who is out of chakra thinks or says they are out of chakra in this series, lol. Or somebody else says it, and it is confirmed, like in the Itachi fight.

The anime will probably draw out the explosion starting, with the little beams of light from the ball lasting for like 30 seconds, haha. But yes, the manga did give an image of it all happening really fast, with the bang within 2 or less seconds of when we last saw Sasuke's face.

[thornofcarrion]

there's no need to hate on sasuke. i personally realized what kind of character he was the moment he made that impossible escape against deidara. save yourself some aggravation and stop taking sasuke so seriously.

Thanks for your advice man. Actually its not hate its the annoyance the way he is portrayed so god like. Hate is not good for health. I will try not to take him seriously as you suggested. Hehehe