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General Summer
03-16-2007, 08:46 PM
That Naruto really HAS killed someone.
I think we can silence that discussion once and for all with Tsunade's autopsy results. His Rasen-shuriken completely obliterated every cell nerve Kakuzu's body. It is also impossible for Tsunade to heal them, even if she wanted to. I think it's safe to say that Naruto killed Kakuzu, and not Kakashi.
Yes, Yes?
el naruto
03-16-2007, 08:48 PM
WTF, are you serouis no shit he killed kakuza everyone knows that....
regina777
03-16-2007, 08:49 PM
I will start moving threads here to the New Sections created. Your thread has the honor of being first.
And a nice thread at that. Post and visit here more often. Invite your pals too.
KageNaruto
03-16-2007, 08:51 PM
Kakashi killed Kakuzu. Naruto "defeated" him.
Ioannakis
03-16-2007, 08:52 PM
Yes, Yes?
Yes I agree entirely, I think that's clear now. Life for him was impossible under those conditions and whether or not Kakashi was the last to touch him is inconsequential; - a verbal matter merely.
oipotty
03-16-2007, 08:53 PM
i actually agree with general summer.
naruto would have wiped out him anyway but kakashi just wanted to take the credits. narutos jutsu killed him, not kakashi's jutsu
el naruto
03-16-2007, 08:55 PM
Kakashi killed Kakuzu. Naruto "defeated" him.
Well didnt naruto take out 3 hearts?(might be 2) if so id say he "killed" him cause he took out more hearts and without naruto kakashi was ganna get messed up.
General Summer
03-16-2007, 08:57 PM
Kakashi killed Kakuzu. Naruto "defeated" him.
Are you serious?
Honestly, do you really think kakashi would've had to "kill" Kakuzu after Naruto's attack?
Kakuzu would've died eventually, he couldn't move, he couldn't use chakra anymore. He would've starved to death even if he did manage to live. Which was impossible, Kakuzu had like 3 hearts left. The attack hit Kakuzu so many times that Kakashi's Sharingan couldn't keep up with them anymore.
Naruto Killed Kakuzu. How could you disagree with all these facts?
oipotty
03-16-2007, 09:09 PM
yea just read wat i said and also:
i think that killing kakuzu means destroying all his nerve cells than just using the lightning blade to show off
DonEmu
03-16-2007, 09:33 PM
Plain stupidity...
If i put 50 bullets into a person, and the person is on the brink of death, then a kid walks by and stabs the dude in the head, finishing him off, the kid is the one who killed the dude not you, regardless if he would have died without the stab.
Even though he would have died anyway, and i did do loads of damage, in the end the killing blow was not his...
And Naruto has already killed some, Yura, the guy who transformed into Itachi, he killed the guy with an Oodamaa Rasengan...
oipotty
03-16-2007, 09:37 PM
or how bout this:
a guy is dead already with tons of bullets in him
then some jerk walks over and sticks a toothpick in his leg, doing nothing to quicken the death, just creating this pointless argument we r having.
anyway, no matter wat, he has killed yura
Chidongan
03-16-2007, 09:45 PM
Are you serious?
Honestly, do you really think kakashi would've had to "kill" Kakuzu after Naruto's attack?
you just said yourself that kakashi killed kakuzu.
Naruto Killed Kakuzu. How could you disagree with all these facts?
Fact = Kakuzu would've died eventually by Naruto's Attack.
Fact = Kakashi killed kakuzu.
DonEmu
03-16-2007, 09:45 PM
or how bout this:
a guy is dead already with tons of bullets in him
then some jerk walks over and sticks a toothpick in his leg, doing nothing to quicken the death, just creating this pointless argument we r having.
anyway, no matter wat, he has killed yura
Kakazu talked before Kakashi struck the blow, thus he wasnt dead already.
Edit: Combination Attack, Chido + Don :p
The point is in the end, even though he would have died eventually from Naruto's attack, he didnt, it was the chidori that finished the job. Once it hit, he died. Unlike your dumb toothpick, the toothpick wouldnt have done anything to the already dying individual. The chidori on the other hand finished kakazu off.
oipotty
03-16-2007, 09:46 PM
fine: he stuck the toothpick in the leg, said some crap, then died
General Summer
03-16-2007, 09:53 PM
Alright, Alright.
It makes sense to say that Kakashi delivered the final blow to Kakuzu, thus killing him. But I still believe that Naruto is the one that took his life. Kakashi having used the Chidori on him wouldn't have made a difference one way or the other. He was going to die.
oipotty
03-16-2007, 10:04 PM
yea ill go with that too
KageNaruto
03-17-2007, 03:19 AM
Doesen't matter, he wasnt dead at the time, Kakashi killed him. Kakashi delivered an attack, hes no longer alive. Like I said before, Naruto defeated him. This is common sense
Hellchild915
03-17-2007, 04:30 AM
Naruto is a killing machine ahhahaha but yeah technically he didnt kill him even though he gave him deadly wounds kakashi still killed him but I do think he will kill somebody soon
Hopefully Sasuke
Kyuubi No Yoko
03-17-2007, 04:33 AM
for naruto to kill he needs to go kyuubi berserker and use bloodlust to brake his opponent's neck with his bare hands. then naruto will have killed .
anyways, naruto delivered the defeating hit but kakashi finished him. in terms of KILLING . kakashi literally did it.
ZeroWillis
03-17-2007, 08:24 AM
Well didnt naruto take out 3 hearts?(might be 2) if so id say he "killed" him cause he took out more hearts and without naruto kakashi was ganna get messed up.
Technically, 2, started with 5, Kakashi took out 2 with Raikiri, Naruto took out 2 (maybe 2 and a half given his condition afterwards) with his Futon Rasengan. Then Kakashi finished him off.
Are you serious?
Honestly, do you really think kakashi would've had to "kill" Kakuzu after Naruto's attack?
Kakuzu would've died eventually, he couldn't move, he couldn't use chakra anymore. He would've starved to death even if he did manage to live. Which was impossible, Kakuzu had like 3 hearts left. The attack hit Kakuzu so many times that Kakashi's Sharingan couldn't keep up with them anymore.
Naruto Killed Kakuzu. How could you disagree with all these facts?
We did not know the full extent of Kakuzu's abilities, wether or not his black threads were a Kekkai Genkai or not, wether they work on individual cells or not and wether it takes chakra to control them. Meaning he could very well of lived after Naruto's attack.
However, on Page 7 of Chapter 342, Kakuzu does admit he beat him, though this could merely support what someone else seat about Naruto 'beating' and Kakashi killing.
anantha92
03-17-2007, 10:14 AM
i personally think that Naruto killed off 3 hearts because:
There was 5 like masks on his back, it is true that kakashi took out 2, BUT after taht naruto did his rasenshuriken, and took out 3. After taht, there were no more masks, kakashi then did take out his REAL heart he was born with. So technically they both took out 3 hearts. But without each other they would have not gone anywhere. I didnt say naruto killed him but he did kill of 3 hearts in about 5-10 secs while it took kakashi about 4-5 hours to take out 2. The 3rd heart he took out (kakashi) was easy since naruto already immobilized him. Hope this sorts things out. Besides Naruto has killed tons of people in the filler eps, and the movies. Yes he did kill Yuura, who was in itachi's form, this Yuura had the sharingan too, so it was an ok fight.
Toxic Anarch
03-17-2007, 10:27 AM
i personally think that Naruto killed off 3 hearts because:
There was 5 like masks on his back, it is true that kakashi took out 2, BUT after taht naruto did his rasenshuriken, and took out 3. After taht, there were no more masks, kakashi then did take out his REAL heart he was born with. So technically they both took out 3 hearts. But without each other they would have not gone anywhere. I didnt say naruto killed him but he did kill of 3 hearts in about 5-10 secs while it took kakashi about 4-5 hours to take out 2. The 3rd heart he took out (kakashi) was easy since naruto already immobilized him. Hope this sorts things out. Besides Naruto has killed tons of people in the filler eps, and the movies. Yes he did kill Yuura, who was in itachi's form, this Yuura had the sharingan too, so it was an ok fight.
I want the Oodama Rasengan back now..that thing was AMAZING! and maybe we might get to see some use outta it since Naruto is "forbidden" from using his rasen-shuriken now...and i dont think he is going to use it ALL the time...maybe just when its the last option ..(Naruto Vs. Sasuke perhaps?) cause it damages his OWN cells..but then again...it might be plausible that the kyuubi chakra also heals that too like it normally heals him..
KageNaruto
03-17-2007, 05:39 PM
Technically, 2, started with 5, Kakashi took out 2 with Raikiri, Naruto took out 2 (maybe 2 and a half given his condition afterwards) with his Futon Rasengan. Then Kakashi finished him off.
Kakashi took out one with the sneak chudori attack. Then Hidan took out one. Then Naruto took out 2. And then Kakashi took out the last one.
ZeroWillis
03-17-2007, 06:00 PM
Kakashi took out one with the sneak chudori attack. Then Hidan took out one. Then Naruto took out 2. And then Kakashi took out the last one.
Forgot about Hidan taking one out. I thought Kakshi killed one on Chapter 334 Pages 15-16, although upon reading them again, it seems you're right :P
10sarg
03-19-2007, 06:03 AM
if naruto severed every nerve ending in every cell of kakuzu's body then he didnt kill him. if you lose nerves in the body you no longer have muscle control or feel anything so naruto did something much worse he made him a paraplegic.
also kakuzu was still alive when kakashi stepped to the plate and finished him off.
Kyuubi No Yoko
03-19-2007, 06:23 AM
I want the Oodama Rasengan back now..that thing was AMAZING! and maybe we might get to see some use outta it since Naruto is "forbidden" from using his rasen-shuriken now...and i dont think he is going to use it ALL the time...maybe just when its the last option ..(Naruto Vs. Sasuke perhaps?) cause it damages his OWN cells..but then again...it might be plausible that the kyuubi chakra also heals that too like it normally heals him..
Godaime forbid the jutsu because of the risk that represents to naruto, once he masters the fuuton rasengan everything will be ok. its just the same as when naruto burned his hand with rasengan. once he masters the jutsu this one wont longer hurt him. and odama rasengan is great i cant wait to see it animated
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