Shippuden Episode 004

[Mindblade16]

Has anyone else searched youtube for the 4th Episode of Shippuden? There are so many fakes posing as the geniune article!(one even has a dancing patrick stewart for some reason)


Mod Edit

Raw
http://bt.saiyaman.info/


Subbed
http://a.scarywater.net/sd/%5BSD%5D_Naruto_Hurricane_Chronicles_-_004_%5B3B08A457%5D.avi.torrent -- SD torrent
http://yhbt.mine.nu/t/ -- Dattebayo torrent
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=02Q5YNX3 Direct Download Dattebayo

[DrkZr]

Has anyone else searched youtube for the 4th Episode of Shippuden? There are so many fakes posing as the geniune article!(one even has a dancing patrick stewart for some reason)
I never attempt to search until it's Thursday (my time). Try searching tomorrow for the raw, if you're impatient.

[JoshAries]

interesting. Dancing Patrick Stewart eh? I'll have to see that one.

[NMK]

Just wait until a Shippuuden Episode 4 threads pops up here.

[Greenlitflag]

(one even has a dancing patrick stewart for some reason)
You found THAT and you're STILL not satisfied?

[Techno Dude]

is it out today?

[NMK]

I think that we'll hafto wait another 15h, atleast. To get a sub from dattebayo that is.

[Kyuubi No Yoko]

Sub comes out around 9pm my time still some time to go :P

[anantha92]

lol watching shippuden now, as we speack. My parents bought this new satteltite tv. picking up channesl fro japan. I stopped irt after like 1 min in. Dont want tpo spoil it.

[Kyuubi No Yoko]

lol watching shippuden now, as we speack. My parents bought this new satteltite tv. picking up channesl fro japan. I stopped irt after like 1 min in. Dont want tpo spoil it.

sweet. now if you can get a recorder you could record it and make copies and you sell it to you friends before even the RAW is uploaded somewhere , not to mention way before the subbed comes out. ;)

[BBRS]

Why isn't this question in the spam zone?

[anantha92]

the the only thing i have closest to a recorder is a broken vhs unit. Anyway it was just luck i got that frquency, was playing araound with it and i saw the intro. Saw about one minutes then i stopped. Ill see if i cang get it again. I was suprised since japanese sattelites are a little out of range for me.

[Amatsu Mikaboshi]

http://bt.saiyaman.info/


raw is out

[Kyuubi No Yoko]

Right on just around 12 more hours to go for the sub (my time zone) :D

[Jessyan]

wow, gaara impressed me very much with hes "new" powers. Naruto and Sakura did well to

[anantha92]

i guess tmw after school it is.

[Hiyo]

oh god. where's the subs? when are the subs coming out? is it soon? oh i hope the subs come out soon. omg it's only the raw.

okay just wanted to spam post in an episode thread like everyone else for a change :D

[Kyuubi No Yoko]

oh god. where's the subs? when are the subs coming out? is it soon? oh i hope the subs come out soon. omg it's only the raw.

okay just wanted to spam post in an episode thread like everyone else for a change :D

omg hahaha i laughed like 5 mins over your post, hilarious :D i nominate it for best comic spam post of the year. :D haha

[sharingan_user]

this episode was crap...again....:(
filler part about 90% and real cannon about 10%....i really hate the studio pierrot guys....and btw....where in da hell are the old animators?

[regina777]

http://bt.saiyaman.info/


raw is out

gOOD. This thread will be joined with the Fake Shippuuden 004 thread.

[sharingan_user]

YouTube links:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O8BR5MJ6MGM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VpllfeDQQbo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QzZHV2Tqf6w

[Uchiha_Blaze]

anyone know how many hours till sub ?

[tonlew]

this episode was crap...again....:(
filler part about 90% and real cannon about 10%....i really hate the studio pierrot guys....and btw....where in da hell are the old animators?

i agree with you, that was not that good, seem story is getting streached out:cool:

[DrkZr]

i agree with you, that was not that good, seem story is getting streached out:cool:
At least there weren't any flashbacks, hmm. ;)

[sharingan_user]

i agree with you, that was not that good, seem story is getting streached out:cool:

yeah...i mean, i don't like to talk trash, but this episode was just too bad....poor animation, poor art, stupid fillers part, etc....
in many other naruto foruns, people are really pissed off about this episode, actually, the only good thing of the new series, was the 8 min intro(with sasuke) and the 1º episode....
i think kishi has to do something, cuz studio pierrot is really killing naruto....

[steve]

Meh, I don't mind it getting stretched out... thats how its done. If they didn't do that we would catch up too quickly... besides, the manga is so concise and to the point that if we animated the manga frame for frame, a single 22 episode could probably do 4-5 chapters of story.

THen again, I only glanced through the episode, I guess I'llreserve judgement for after the sub is out.

[NMK]

4 hours and 30 minutes and it has been 7 days since Shippuuden 3 got released. (DATTEBAYO)

If you want the episode with Subs from DB then you'll get to wait atleast 3 more hours.

[Kyuubi No Yoko]

You guys are amazing. you werent happy with fillers , you are not happy with this episodes (wich imo are awesome all of them) and prolly u wouldnt be happy ieither f they showed 15 manga chapters compiled on 1 episode of 20 mins of animation and they catch up with the manga in 1 month or so . if you are a real naruto fan stop crying over they streching the episodes, they have to fill in a lot of space is not like the manga , and they are doing it greatly without recurring to totally fillers without story line points episodes. so please atleast if you are gonna cry go to one of the so called "other forums where people is really angry"

Edit : i also read the manga every week in case any one comes up with the "anime boy" reply.

[steve]

Agreed... I can't say anything about this ep yet(except that it looks sick), but the other 3 have all been sauce.
This is why people shouldn't be allowed to read manga... when they animate it if theres any difference they have an assgasm.

[yasuo]

You guys are amazing. you werent happy with fillers , you are not happy with this episodes (wich imo are awesome all of them) and prolly u wouldnt be happy ieither f they showed 15 manga chapters compiled on 1 episode of 20 mins of animation and they catch up with the manga in 1 month or so . if you are a real naruto fan stop crying over they streching the episodes, they have to fill in a lot of space is not like the manga , and they are doing it greatly without recurring to totally fillers without story line points episodes. so please atleast if you are gonna cry go to one of the so called "other forums where people is really angry"

oh guy you are great ^^ i think so too ;)

[papfles]

Agreed... I can't say anything about this ep yet(except that it looks sick), but the other 3 have all been sauce.
This is why people shouldn't be allowed to read manga... when they animate it if theres any difference they have an assgasm.

aaargh, mental image >_<

[zimmer]

I completely agree that if they only had used the manga story and not streched out the anime they had catched up to easily and then people had wined about fillers in two years again.

[jounin101]

i'm probably one of the few manga readers who realize that the manga is just a skeleton for the series. the anime is there to add everything else required to make the series better. filler episodes are like STDs, every series gets them from fucking(up)

other manga readers need to not be disappointed when things arent 1--% like the manga.

[Kyuubi No Yoko]

i'm probably one of the few manga readers who realize that the manga is just a skeleton for the series. the anime is there to add everything else required to make the series better. filler episodes are like STDs, every series gets them from fucking(up)

other manga readers need to not be disappointed when things arent 1--% like the manga.

That kinda makes 2 of us . i agree with you a 100% ;)

[papfles]

i agree with jounin101 :) Just as long as they don't change the story, i'm quite content with added content (if it helps the story)

[WhiteFang]

i'm probably one of the few manga readers who realize that the manga is just a skeleton for the series. the anime is there to add everything else required to make the series better. filler episodes are like STDs, every series gets them from fucking(up)

other manga readers need to not be disappointed when things arent 1--% like the manga.

Agreed

The only thing to be angry abou would be the animation that has some poor moments with some 4 years old drawings

[jounin101]

yeah, the animation in this one wasnt up to par with episodes 1-3, but i remember that all of gaara's fights are like that. these new animatorss have nothing to do with that, thats just something kishi needs to address eventually.
at least this one looked much better than when lee got thrown by gaara's sand, or that part where sasuke was dodging gaara's sand spikes. those were the worst non-filler animations in naruto history.

[zerikx]

Animation in this episode is just so.... disapointing....... the lack of movement, is this what i was waiting for so long???........(goes to a corner to cry) :(

[sharingan_user]

yeah, the animation in this one wasnt up to par with episodes 1-3, but i remember that all of gaara's fights are like that. these new animatorss have nothing to do with that, thats just something kishi needs to address eventually.
at least this one looked much better than when lee got thrown by gaara's sand, or that part where sasuke was dodging gaara's sand spikes. those were the worst non-filler animations in naruto history.


the battle between gaara and lee was awesome...i don't know what you're talking about...
and i have a doubt....are they really new animators? or still some people of part 1? cuz i love part 1 animation....it's much better than these new episodes of shippuuden...i mean, cmon guys...you can see that too....but maybe they are saving the best animation for the future...(i really hope so)
just look at the intro of episode 1 with sasuke)...brilliant....
i still have hope....;)

[Kratos]

i'm probably one of the few manga readers who realize that the manga is just a skeleton for the series. the anime is there to add everything else required to make the series better. filler episodes are like STDs, every series gets them from fucking(up)

other manga readers need to not be disappointed when things arent 1--% like the manga.

I also agree with you.

[jounin101]

the battle between gaara and lee was awesome...i don't know what you're talking about...
and i have a doubt....are they really new animators? or still some people of part 1? cuz i love part 1 animation....it's much better than these new episodes of shippuuden...i mean, cmon guys...you can see that too....but maybe they are saving the best animation for the future...(i really hope so)
just look at the intro of episode 1 with sasuke)...brilliant....
i still have hope....;)

oh, my bad, i meant in terms of animation quality during those parts, not those actual fights.

[Kyuubi No Yoko]

the battle between gaara and lee was awesome...i don't know what you're talking about...
and i have a doubt....are they really new animators? or still some people of part 1? cuz i love part 1 animation....it's much better than these new episodes of shippuuden...i mean, cmon guys...you can see that too....but maybe they are saving the best animation for the future...(i really hope so)
just look at the intro of episode 1 with sasuke)...brilliant....
i still have hope....;)


If you are waiting for a full episode with that quality i highly doubt it will happen, first of all the time to do a full episode with that quality would be more than what all of us are expected to wait, then it would cost money to keep up that work a lot of money, and the size of an episode with that quality throughout the 23 mins would be huge. too many factors prevent them from doing it, i bet they would love to release an episode like that, even more WE would love it . but again it would cost 2 much time, money , resources.

[Uchiha_Blaze]

oh man when will the sub come out ffs :/ im horny for naruto :(

[Hiyo]

Dear Mr/Mrs. Wanting-to-know-when-the-subs-come-out:

Go to http://yhbt.mine.nu/t/

Find the link for last weeks episode... move your eyes to the right side of the window to locate the time. Then subtract this time from 7 days to find the remaining time for the next sub.

[example]:

[DB] Naruto Shippuuden 003 170.05MiB [BCF5906D] 6182 548 51.66TiB 318557 6d19h06m

See the 6d19h06m? That's the time since the last episode came out. Since episodes come out weekly, and sub time is generally the same for each episode, the next sub won't be out until this time shows 7d00h00m.

Using some elementary school math you should be able to subtract 6d19h06m from 7d00h00m to get the remaining time.

If you are unable to do that, you are stupid and I hope some day your IQ drops enough that you forget how to post on this forum. However, if you flunked out of elementary school I commend you for having figured out how to post here in the first place. This accomplishment puts you higher in my books than the group preceding you in this paragraph. Be proud.

Your friendly neighbour post-buddy,

Hiyo.

[Kyuubi No Yoko]

Dear Mr/Mrs. Wanting-to-know-when-the-subs-come-out:

Go to http://yhbt.mine.nu/t/

Find the link for last weeks episode... move your eyes to the right side of the window to locate the time. Then subtract this time from 7 days to find the remaining time for the next sub.

[example]:

[DB] Naruto Shippuuden 003 170.05MiB 6182 548 51.66TiB 318557 6d19h06m

See the 6d19h06m? That's the time since the last episode came out. Since episodes come out weekly, and sub time is generally the same for each episode, the next sub won't be out until this time shows 7d00h00m.

Using some elementary school math you should be able to subtract 6d19h06m from 7d00h00m to get the remaining time.

[B]If you are unable to do that, you are stupid and I hope some day your IQ drops enough that you forget how to post on this forum. However, if you flunked out of elementary school I commend you for having figured out how to post here in the first place. This accomplishment puts you higher in my books than the group preceding you in this paragraph. Be proud.

Your friendly neighbour post-buddy,

Hiyo.


LOL. Give it about 5 hours . to be more precise on my timezone it will be out in 4h 50m

[Hellchild915]

hahahah I always wondered how people never saw that, I never ask for subs because of the exact reason I really wish some of you noobs learn to do that inseadt of spamming this thread with "when is the sub coming out" or "I want the sub" my god shut up

[Kratos]

I know what you mean. No one knows for sure when the sub will come out, unless a member of this forum works for a fansubber.

[Uchiha_Blaze]

Dear Mr/Mrs. Wanting-to-know-when-the-subs-come-out:

Go to http://yhbt.mine.nu/t/

Find the link for last weeks episode... move your eyes to the right side of the window to locate the time. Then subtract this time from 7 days to find the remaining time for the next sub.

[example]:

[DB] Naruto Shippuuden 003 170.05MiB [BCF5906D] 6182 548 51.66TiB 318557 6d19h06m

See the 6d19h06m? That's the time since the last episode came out. Since episodes come out weekly, and sub time is generally the same for each episode, the next sub won't be out until this time shows 7d00h00m.

Using some elementary school math you should be able to subtract 6d19h06m from 7d00h00m to get the remaining time.

If you are unable to do that, you are stupid and I hope some day your IQ drops enough that you forget how to post on this forum. However, if you flunked out of elementary school I commend you for having figured out how to post here in the first place. This accomplishment puts you higher in my books than the group preceding you in this paragraph. Be proud.

Your friendly neighbour post-buddy,

Hiyo.


hmm ty, but i have a better idea. Il go to so called bed (you may already may not know what that is). I will lay down on my bed. Its very importent to lay down on it. And then i will magicly close my eyes and keep them closed for a few minutes. Then i will magicaly re-open them and find myself in a new world where the sub is out. Well dont try this at home kids . Its very complicated & dangerous.

[jounin101]

hmm ty, but i have a better idea. Il go to so called bed (you may already may not know what that is). I will lay down on my bed. Its very importent to lay down on it. And then i will magicly close my eyes and keep them closed for a few minutes. Then i will magicaly re-open them and find myself in a new world where the sub is out. Well dont try this at home kids . Its very complicated & dangerous.

oh shit...u and i must have the same kekki genkai! lol. i heard only people with actual lives can achieve this.
alot of people round here cant do that. they sit on their cpu and bitch about "when are the subs coming?" every goddamn week. Wait til friday bitches! or at least thursday night!!!
and this episode is rather good btw!

[LuCas]

Sub is out:

http://a.scarywater.net/sd/%5BSD%5D_Naruto_Hurricane_Chronicles_-_004_%5B3B08A457%5D.avi.torrent

Sorry if it was already posted too lazy to read the earlier pages I dont want to get spoiled.

The worst feeling is being spoiled right before you watch the episode :p

And to anyone who still doesn't know, SD is a new subber group for naruto since the new hurricane chronicles started.
Their site is SDproject.net you can find their IRC channel and stuff there.

Too lazy to wait for DB. SD is just as good IMO and they are quicker.

[AK47]

Sub is out:

http://a.scarywater.net/sd/%5BSD%5D_Naruto_Hurricane_Chronicles_-_004_%5B3B08A457%5D.avi.torrent

Sorry if it was already posted too lazy to read the earlier pages I dont want to get spoiled.

The worst feeling is being spoiled right before you watch the episode :p

And to anyone who still doesn't know, SD is a new subber group for naruto since the new hurricane chronicles started.
Their site is SDproject.net you can find their IRC channel and stuff there.

Too lazy to wait for DB. SD is just as good IMO and they are quicker.

nah ur the first one thanks!!! dwnlding rite nows

[regina777]

And to anyone who still doesn't know, SD is a new subber group for naruto since the new hurricane chronicles started.
Their site is SDproject.net you can find their IRC channel and stuff there.

Too lazy to wait for DB. SD is just as good IMO and they are quicker.
SD fansubs are good subbers. There have been just a few bloopers just like DB in shippuuden.

Added to first post.

[UndrDog]

Sigh, I'm a tad bit afraid of what's happening.

Dattebayo has proven to be reliable. They've stuck with Naruto through every filler while others backed away. Now that SD is stealing their thunder they may decide to cut their losses and leave Shippuuden to them. So what if SD isn't as reliable as Dattebayo? Does that mean we'd, at least for awhile, lose Naruto?

Just speculation, but seeing as it doesn't take much I've been downloading from SD and then clicking the download link from Dattebayo. lol I don't download it, but just hoping they'll see it as a hit. ^_^

Again I'm not trying to start a, "NO MORE NARUTO!?" rumor or anything. Just mentioning it incase it's a possibility.

[anantha92]

DB has released it.
http://yhbt.mine.nu/t/ns004.torrent
First to report.

[Kratos]

I hope this is normal DB quality and not a crappy rush job to try to keep up with SD.

[UndrDog]

SD release last week I thought was pretty good quality, at least as good as Dattebayo's. Yet now I look and they've just released a HQ v2 of 003. I haven't bothered checking out how much better it is, but Dattebayo might have alot of work ahead of them if they are going to keep up with them. >_<

[lifeordeath2]

Unless you download the file as well, it doesn't count as a hit...you at least have to start the download anyway. if u have the HD space, d/l both eps if you want to continue supporting dattebayo...u can just delete one of them later.

On another note, I too am glad that dattebayo has competition, at times they have been knuckle draging with the subs, and one time, on the dattebayo site, they claimed that they wouldn't release the Naruto sub until they had so many d/ls of this other crap torrent that I d/l and deleted before viewing. Sometimes, we've had to wait a day or two to get the sub, and now I come home, its 6:30 pm, and the dattebayo sub is already out! I actually came here to find the scarywater link so I wouldn't have to wait, but since dattebayo has released the sub, I'll stick with them.




Sigh, I'm a tad bit afraid of what's happening.

Dattebayo has proven to be reliable. They've stuck with Naruto through every filler while others backed away. Now that SD is stealing their thunder they may decide to cut their losses and leave Shippuuden to them. So what if SD isn't as reliable as Dattebayo? Does that mean we'd, at least for awhile, lose Naruto?

Just speculation, but seeing as it doesn't take much I've been downloading from SD and then clicking the download link from Dattebayo. lol I don't download it, but just hoping they'll see it as a hit. ^_^

Again I'm not trying to start a, "NO MORE NARUTO!?" rumor or anything. Just mentioning it incase it's a possibility.

[Kyuubi No Yoko]

Well SD is releasing v2's of the episodes they subbed so it kinda makes me wonder if their speed wich is as far as today is almost the same as DB's its worth it. but hey since i dont know japanese i cant jugde :P

[LuCas]

Bleh, DB's speed was ok this week. Only about 2-3 hours slower than SD.
I think they are trying to work their way up.

SD and DB are great subbers anyhow. (I already finished dling the SD sub but I didn't watch it yet, im just going to dl the DB one and watch it)

If SD releases like 5 hours earlier than DB does from now on ill just stick with SD.

I still remember DB's old subbing name, "AnimeHeaven" ^^ and I think the subber "Lunar" or whatever was also subbing naruto (Or was it bleach) it was very good.

[UndrDog]

Sigh, nose as good as Kiba's? lol how? Was that in the manga?

Anyway good episode, they certainly are doing a great job at stalling for time. I'm at least glad they finished up the rin training. Oh and the opening animation made me sick to my stomache. >_< lol

Anyway, now off to tell people that Lee and Kiba were in this episode so the fanboys and girls will get excited over nothing. ^_^

[Kratos]

Sigh, nose as good as Kiba's? lol how? Was that in the manga?


I didn't watch the episode yet, but I assume you are talking about Kakashi. Yes, that was in the manga.

[Narusukashi]

Wow.. this has got to be one of the fastest subbed release I've seen DB do in awhile. Looks like competition is a good thing! DLing at 400 kb/s!

[NMK]

http://yhbt.mine.nu/t/ns004.torrent

I always get 400kb/s if not more when I'm downloading new episodes from DB :D

[AK47]

ew i did not like the animation! maybe it was SD's subbing but ewewew! was very bad! i'm not gonna watch it all until i'm done dwnlding DB's version. if it's the same, the episode stank!

[UndrDog]

I didn't watch the episode yet, but I assume you are talking about Kakashi. Yes, that was in the manga.

*Cries.*

Aw man, what the crap. Well perhaps that means Kiba can now turn it off an on without soldier pills... >_<

[Sylo]

i don't think i ever seen a sub get out this fast ha i wasn't planning on dl'in it till tomorrow i go on db and bam it's there, i was like holy crap!

[Narusukashi]

ew i did not like the animation! maybe it was SD's subbing but ewewew! was very bad! i'm not gonna watch it all until i'm done dwnlding DB's version. if it's the same, the episode stank!I don't think the sub has anything to do with animation or effects it for that matter. Although I do agree that the animation was a bit lacking this time around.. it just didn't seem as fluid but I guess it can't be that way all the time.

Also I don't remember seeing Kakashi's hand seals being alot faster in the manga in relation to this episode. Hmm I guess I'll have to look into that.

[KageNaruto]

*Cries.*

Aw man, what the crap. Well perhaps that means Kiba can now turn it off an on without soldier pills... >_<

you have to remember naruto compares kakashi's skills to the genin before the time skip.

[strawberry]

you have to remember naruto compares kakashi's skills to the genin before the time skip.

Yes but IQ & sense of smell aren't things that can be tremendously improved.

[NMK]

Well, I didn't expect them to get the bells that way ^^

[Fabian_89]

nice episode <3

bahhhh cant wait til next thursday :D
i like the way gaara's fighting... its like everything is easy for him

[KageNaruto]

Yes but IQ & sense of smell aren't things that can be tremendously improved.

im guessing smell in naruto easily can.

they made the shukaku sand claws move so slow imo, they should have been faster.

and of course diedara had way more bombs than supposed to, but that was expected to drag out the fight.

suiryudan and gokakyu from kakashi? they should have been more original, and im sure a few people know exactly what his gokakyu copied. kakashi going through the exact same of seals for both jutsus wasnt so great either-_-

fairly good episode, and strange choice of music for the ending. over dramatic imo

[NMK]

Did you notice the part when Gaara jumps up on the Sand to get higher? Looks like he's surfing but it just looks so bad, the animators could've done a lot better than that.

[the killer Uchiha]

I liked how they made Garras hair more browner like his fathers.Idk if it was just because it was dark or not but i think he looked cooler.

[1hunglow]

An ok episode my only complaint was Naruto's comparisons they were kind of off

[KageNaruto]

An ok episode my only complaint was Naruto's comparisons they were kind of off

how so? they were right on

[Aizen-diacho]

this episode was okay garra shukakau's claw was pretty good only part i really enjoyed.animation really needs to step up their mxing it up too much.the animation is very mediocre right now hopefully the next and future episode are better.but was it just me or did it look like kakashi were performing different handseals with each hand?

[1hunglow]

I'm saying he can't have a better sense of smell than Kiba that would throw off the whole reason for his clan. Another thing is there no new episode next week? They said something about 3/15

[Greenlitflag]

An ok episode my only complaint was Naruto's comparisons they were kind of off
Keep in mind that naruto is basing this off of their 12/13 year old versions and these are probably not accurate anymore.

[nizzoc]

Ok I dl the SD's sub and just watched it. Near the end right at the 20 min mark. There's some text in Jap but not translated. The only thing I can make out is... "Naruto.... 3/15.... 7:30" Then I watched the preview and they didn't say anything about time slot change or a bi week. Just wanna know what your guys take on it. I'm dling DB's sub now and gonna check it in a bit. o well off to Pooch Block +. ^_^

[andrewc513]

Dang they're draggin this arc on... but it's aight, I dont care. They're probably just paranoid about going too fast. Cant really blame em, if I was an animator, I wouldn't want another filler disaster.

[Greenlitflag]

Some of the animation was a little "meh" but other than that, it was a pretty good. I think it only feels slow/weird because the manga was so much faster. Had I just been watching the anime and not the read the manga, I would just be sitting back enjoying the fight/watch naruto and sakura train. But because I'm so anxious to see some of the cooler stuff, it feels like we're moving in slowmotion. Other than it was pretty good ep, hope the next one is better.

[KageNaruto]

I'm saying he can't have a better sense of smell than Kiba that would throw off the whole reason for his clan. Another thing is there no new episode next week? They said something about 3/15

he said as good im pretty sure, and yes, kakashi easily can if kishimoto says so

[Vishox]

usually the manga is meant to be slower, thats why the anime can cover 3 to 4 chapters every episode... but this is friggin snails pace!

[KageNaruto]

usually the manga is meant to be slower, thats why the anime can cover 3 to 4 chapters every episode... but this is friggin snails pace!

manga is meant to be faster dude, not slower, unless it takes you 20 minutes to read one chapter.

[Hidden Ninja]

also i think everyone is just used to the filler arcs ending in 2-4 episodes. so everyone is still in the quick mindset.

[Greenlitflag]

also i think everyone is just used to the filler arcs ending in 2-4 episodes. so everyone is still in the quick mindset.
Yeah, I think everyone is expecting some random girl to show up, some poorly designed enemy up to pop outta nowhere, lee and neji to show up but not do any remotely decent taijutsu, and a finishing rasengan by now. However, this is the main story now. We'll stick to one general story arc for 15-20 episodes.

[Hidden Ninja]

yup because how long was the neji/naruto battle during the chuunin exams, that alone was what 2-3 episodes. right now we have akatsuki arriving to gaara and the bell test. things are going to take way longer.

thankfully too because it will allow for greater character/story development.

[KageNaruto]

usually the manga is meant to be slower, thats why the anime can cover 3 to 4 chapters every episode... but this is friggin snails pace!

is anybody esle angry about the timing. the bell test is taking time as the gaara diedara battle, while that was supposed to happen the day after the bell test. its orking me how their "rearrangement" really funked over the small moments

[Drunken_Master_Rock_Lee]

Agree, it was very nice to hear the new background songs, I was hoping they would change them, hearing the same ones from the beginning would have became quite annoying. And although the animation wasn't the best, the ep was still good, The Deidara fight is niiiiiiiiiiiice, but I really didn't like Kakashi's hand seals, the speed is like...too much....

[Hellchild915]

i always wondered what the thing on his head means hahahaha

[Lukasz]

really?
are sure that the gaara fight took one day after kakashi's test, KageNaruto?

anyway. they drag this ep a bit. too much but it was okay. I liked the way gaara controlled the sand from few kilometers away.

[C120]

kakashi is so cool... hmmmmm... but they get the bell so easily... thats the best weak point... lol... so funny....

[KageNaruto]

really?
are sure that the gaara fight took one day after kakashi's test, KageNaruto?

anyway. they drag this ep a bit. too much but it was okay. I liked the way gaara controlled the sand from few kilometers away.

yes, and they meet temari and shikamaru the next day too and it's revelaed gaara is kazekage. or if it wasnt the next day, it sure as heck was after the bell test ended, that i am 100% sure of.

[UndrDog]

Well how long was the The Valley of the End fight? lol the flashbacks alone took like two and a half episodes. (BRUTAL!)

But yeah, get used to it. These archs will be long.

[Lukasz]

couldnt it be the same day but just author did not show it properly:

what i mean:

day starts, naruto comes back, test, day ends, end of test, morning.

then

same day, new chapter showing akatsuki attacking sunagakure, same night, gaara fights daedra guy (forgot his name :D )

so he just went back in time for a second.

[KageNaruto]

im not really complaining about the speed or the filelr moments, i can just ignore the fillers, but i do like complaining when im not satisfied with what they did with the canon material.

biggest dissapointment was gaara's shukaku sand claws. they looked like those giant parade balloons, slowly moving forward and thats it. then diedara's bombs, they made him not be able to aim in the anime-_-. the sand is supposed to block the bombs and the shukaku claws are supposed to swirve around and get blasted by the bombs. instead it just looks like the bombs run into the sand on purpose completely, god, i was bawling


lukasz, yeah i guess thats about right, except here the fight is taking place during the bell test, they even made it nightime and it wasnt supposed to be. and after the bell test naruto and sakura meet temari and shika who then say gaara is a kage, then we see gaara and the meeting take place as well as that one dude who was under brain control or w/e it was, then we see deidara and sasori walking through the dessert, then deidara gows after gaara, and by now naruto is doing something else. so the timing is still kinda odd at least to me.

[panickinu]

And most relevantly-- the music the background songs-- were just superb. i would have never expected such good music.

The music is some kind of orchestra music its just way too dramatic for me... I missed the drumrolls, now that always gets me excited.

[realityoverride]

次回の「NARUTO疾風伝」は
３月１５日（木）夜７時３０分からお送りします。

I don't know much about verbs, tenses, etc., but it should roughly translate to:
The next "Naruto Shippuuden" will be aired beginning on the evening of march, 15th (thu) at 7:30.

There was also another message at the beginning of the episode.. I managed to write it down and roughly translate most of it.

テレビ大阪　地震情報
午後7時27分ころ、近畿地方で　震度１の地震がありました
この地震による津波の心配はありません
震度１　亀岡市　南丹市
震源地は京都府南部
震源の深さは１０ｋｍ
地震の規模はM3.0と推定されます
テレビ大阪　地震情報　終

TV Osaka Earthquake Information
Approximately at 7:27 pm, there was a level 1 earthquake at the Kinki area.
At this earthquake there is no worry about a tsunami this evening. (??)
Earthquakelevel 1 in Kameokashi and south [...] (?)
The epicenter is in the southern part of the Kyoto metropolitan area.
The epicenter is 10 km deep.
The earthquakes scale is M3.0 and is expected to pass by. (??)
TV Osaka Earthquake Information -End-

[LuCas]

I now notice the animation some of you were talking about last week or 2, that it was more crappy than the ones in episodes 1-50, I thought we were talking about the drawings (Or quality whatever). The drawings are absolutely good, better than the drawings where naruto kyuubi fights sasuke in that river in episode 130~

But the animation isn't that good. Just watch at the animations from rock lee vs gaara in episode 47-50~ or watch when naruto/sasuke/sakura tries to take the bells from kakashi in like episode 3~ or whatever there. It was much nicer and it looked awesome. (I think shipuuden episode 3 showed a flashback of naruto episode 3~ when he was fighting kakashi with his legs and all.) THAT was what I wanted to see in these new episodes, a great animation like that. Or in episode 21 where rocklee fights sasuke for the first time before chuunin exam that animation was absolutely awesome and did 100% correctly.

I had animation mixed up with quality before.

[regina777]

i agree-- the animation IN SOME places wasnt that good. Gaaras shukaku claws were soo damn slow while the sand was super fast- two extremes eh!!!

and they also chanaged the location where Gaaras sand was drawn upwards (it wasnt from within the village).

Although-- all in all- this beats all the fillers except about 1%. And most relevantly-- the music the background songs-- were just superb. i would have never expected such good music.

[Lukasz]

reality overdrive posted that next one is 15 march
so
no Naruto next week?

and then maybe double?

[steve]

Pros:
- deidara vs gaara!!!
- kickass sand techniques, kickass explosive techniques
- the fight went on all episode *even if it was alot of filler
- well animated, fuck anyone who said it was shit earlier
- gaara is the shit. He protected himself well at the end. Diedara still has a ways to go. gaara is on par with atakusi though? We should stop fucking around... hes stronger then naruto as it is...
- i hope he doesn't lose.
- naruto and sakura, finally take out kakashi.
- Kakashi has some SICK techniques... so fast, can't fuck with that... hes so good. Mercy.
- naruto shows some intelligence... sakura agrees... they are a great team
- good animation, good music... good everything
- use manga as barebones, fill in the gaps with anime. perfect. seriously.
Cons:
- people are complaining about animation and being spread out... they are also complaining about getting aids 2 weeks ago.
- i guess some parts couldve been a little better animated... I guess
- music, Im not sure how I feel about it yet... some parts were wicked, some parts were hurting.
- naruto and sakura beating kakashi isnt as cool as I had hoped.. oh well.

General Thoughts:
- I read alot of complaints for this episode. Those that complained, need to S*** *** **** *P. This episode was wicked. Adding NON MANGA!!!!! parts to the fight just makes it go on longer and gives us more to watch. It would've been easy to finish this fight in the first 5 minutes of this episode(as a manga reader). But instead, they treated it as the bare bones and added alot to it. It therefore become more entertaining.
- on the same train, there were no flashbacks... a******. The filler was relevant entirely to canon story.
- complainers suck, this episode kicked ass. Anyone who didnt read manga would agree.
- if you really don't like how they space shit out... read the manga. thats it.
just the manga.
good luck, have fun. If you are going to complain, do it for a good reason.

PS.
regina, be my wife.

EDIT: Written after long night out. The fact that I goto NC when Im drunk probably makes me a loser. apologies.

Mod Edit:
please tone down your comments a wee bit- post edited

[anantha92]

Simply an awsome episode. Gaara vs. Deidara.

Anyway the 15th march one will probably a double since its their big battle. Another 2 weeks ...jesus....

P.s i thought the animation was exeleent, the pre-fillers sucked. aprt from nearer to ep 135 or so then it was good.

Admin Edit:
No Spoilers from the manga in here. check your PM.

[Hidden Ninja]

anatha remove it, its a spoiler for next episode, the battle is not complete.

also, i am an avid manga reader and all the add in for the anime were awesome. i love the extra dialogs and the extra fight scenes. very pleasing to me.

well the shukaku arms should be slower i guess, it is alot more sand, making it bulkier resulting in it being slower. also it seems the kakashi fight and the gaara fight are out of sequence. they are suppose to be sequential and naruto was not suppose to find out that everyone was promoted until after the kakashi fight.

[CoR3]

sorry for spamm , but can some1 tell me website of dattebayo

[Hiyo]

God, I can't believe they ended the fight with Kakashi that way. It was clever though, a good way to end a fight when Kakashi is still too powerful for them.

Gaaras animation in the fights sucked at the start but once he got up in the air i thought it was good. Man, he shielding himself damn fast compared to when he used that technique in the chunnin exams. All that AND manages to creep up huge ass sand claws behind deidara. Pretty badass.

I don't see how the claws moving slower then the other sand means anything. Doesn't mean the claws where short, just implies the rest of the sand was movin' extra fast.

[Kyuubi No Yoko]

Pros:
Pros:
- deidara vs gaara!!!
- kickass sand techniques, kickass explosive techniques
- the fight went on all episode *even if it was alot of filler
- well animated, fuck anyone who said it was shit earlier
- gaara is the shit. He protected himself well at the end. Diedara still has a ways to go. gaara is on par with atakusi though? We should stop fucking around... hes stronger then naruto as it is...
- i hope he doesn't lose
- naruto and sakura, finally take out kakashi.
- Kakashi has some SICK techniques... so fast, can't fuck with that... hes so good. Mercy.
- naruto shows some intelligence... sakura agrees... they are a great team
- good animation, good music... good everything
- use manga as barebones, fill in the gaps with anime. perfect. seriously.
Cons:
- people are complaining about animation and being spread out... they are also complaining about getting aids 2 weeks ago.
- i guess some parts couldve been a little better animated... I guess
- music, Im not sure how I feel about it yet... some parts were wicked, some parts were hurting.
- naruto and sakura beating kakashi isnt as cool as I had hoped.. oh well.

General Thoughts:
- I read alot of complaints for this episode. Those that complained, need to S*** *** **** *P. This episode was wicked. Adding NON MANGA!!!!! parts to the fight just makes it go on longer and gives us more to watch. It would've been easy to finish this fight in the first 5 minutes of this episode(as a manga reader). But instead, they treated it as the bare bones and added alot to it. It therefore become more entertaining.
- on the same train, there were no flashbacks... a******. The filler was relevant entirely to canon story.
- complainers suck, this episode kicked ass. Anyone who didnt read manga would agree.
- if you really don't like how they space shit out... read the manga. thats it.
just the manga.
good luck, have fun. If you are going to complain, do it for a good reason.




.I couldnt have said it better, 100% agreed

[papfles]

so mario want to marry regina as well? this is going to be fun :p

[Kyuubi No Yoko]

so mario want to marry regina as well? this is going to be fun :p


lol i either missed that part or it was edited after the original post :/ .

CoR3: http://yhbt.mine.nu (http://yhbt.mine.nu/)

[-RX-]

I now notice the animation some
of you were talking about last week or 2, that it was
more crappy than the ones in episodes 1-50, I thought
we were talking about the drawings (Or quality
whatever). The drawings are absolutely good, better
than the drawings where naruto kyuubi fights sasuke
in that river in episode 130~
But the animation isn't that good. Just watch at the
animations from rock lee vs gaara in episode 47-50~
or watch when naruto/sasuke/sakura tries to take the
bells from kakashi in like episode 3~ or whatever
there. It was much nicer and it looked awesome. (I
think shipuuden episode 3 showed a flashback of
naruto episode 3~ when he was fighting kakashi with
his legs and all.) THAT was what I wanted to see in
these new episodes, a great animation like that. Or
in episode 21 where rocklee fights sasuke for the
first time before chuunin exam that animation was
absolutely awesome and did 100% correctly.
I had animation mixed up with quality before.
this episode was
crap...again....:(
filler part about 90% and real cannon about 10%....i
really hate the studio pierrot guys....and
btw....where in da hell are the old
animators?
yeah...i mean, i don't
like to talk trash, but this episode was just too
bad....poor animation, poor art, stupid fillers part,
etc....
in many other naruto foruns, people are really pissed
off about this episode, actually, the only good thing
of the new series, was the 8 min intro(with sasuke)
and the 1º episode....
i think kishi has to do something, cuz studio pierrot
is really killing naruto....

FINALLY,someone who i agree with.The animation is really mega crap and seems like it's getting worse...I really don't understand what most people see in Shippuuden,it's clearly made by some noobs.I mean you should REALLY watch Naruto part 1 all over again:the animation was superb(for example Kimi and Lee fight....AWESOME)....and now watch again that crappy Kakashi bell test with Naruto and Sakura.....get it.....it's crap.The old animators(who made part 1 and who btw Kishimoto worshiped for making SUCH a great anime out of his "crappy" manga---his exact words)are gone for some reason.The new ones are clearly messing it up...Even i could make better anime :D...haha,maybe not...Anyways stop being some (blind)Naruto fanboys,Shippuuden isn't so great....:(

[rkappiyo]

FINALLY,someone who i agree with.The animation is really mega crap and seems like it's getting worse...I really don't understand what most people see in Shippuuden,it's clearly made by some noobs.I mean you should REALLY watch Naruto part 1 all over again:the animation was superb(for example Kimi and Lee fight....AWESOME)....and now watch again that crappy Kakashi bell test with Naruto and Sakura.....get it.....it's crap.The old animators(who made part 1 and who btw Kishimoto worshiped for making SUCH a great anime out of his "crappy" manga---his exact words)are gone for some reason.The new ones are clearly messing it up...Even i could make better anime :D...haha,maybe not...Anyways stop being some (blind)Naruto fanboys,Shippuuden isn't so great....:(

While I agree that the animation isn't great, I don't think that makes the entire Shipuuden series not great. I still liked the episodes, just not the animation.

[-RX-]

While I agree that the animation isn't great, I don't think that makes the entire Shipuuden series not great. I still liked the episodes, just not the animation.

what is there that is so great...i don't see...-_-

[rkappiyo]

what is there that is so great...i don't see...-_-

Well, I think that the only parts where the animation is really bad is when they showed the scenes of Gaara and Deidara fighting. The other times, I like the entire bell test, and even with the bad animation, I like the fighting between Gaara and Deidara. While the former shows me how much Naruto and Sakura have improved, the latter gives me a taste of a good fight between two extremely powerful opponents. Really, what I have to ask is, other than the animation which I agree can be improved upon, what's not to like?

[papfles]

the first part of the bell test was very good (shippuuden3). this second part was a tad dark (although sakura and naruto and kakashi and tsunade do look better in this part of the naruto series).

gaara seems more like a doll and has had repeated animations (twice the same movement to move the sand) and also a movement where his arms are beside his body when they should be in the air. Ditto for kakashi's seal movements.
That WAS sloppy, but when I look at shippuuden3 (naruto attacking kakashi and doing his kage + henge move), it was very good (aside from temari, who looks like a teenager with bags under her eyes as if she's tsunade's age).

[Kyuubi No Yoko]

FINALLY,someone who i agree with.The animation is really mega crap and seems like it's getting worse...I really don't understand what most people see in Shippuuden,it's clearly made by some noobs.I mean you should REALLY watch Naruto part 1 all over again:the animation was superb(for example Kimi and Lee fight....AWESOME)....and now watch again that crappy Kakashi bell test with Naruto and Sakura.....get it.....it's crap.The old animators(who made part 1 and who btw Kishimoto worshiped for making SUCH a great anime out of his "crappy" manga---his exact words)are gone for some reason.The new ones are clearly messing it up...Even i could make better anime :D...haha,maybe not...Anyways stop being some (blind)Naruto fanboys,Shippuuden isn't so great....:(


Ok. i believe everyone except you and sharingan_user agrees that the only part that wasnt as good animated as the rest was the gaara sand scenes, i wonder if you study or know atleast anything about graphic design because its really hard to animate sand in the way they did, if you could do it better maybe u should be the one working on the studio dont you think ? also it has been 4 chapters from shippuuden and if you think is mega crap why do you keep bothering, just dont download it, dont watch it, therefore dont come posting how you dont like it. besides this thread is for people that watch/ed episode 4 because they like it , not a thread to flame the animation, if you dont like it so far because as i said its been 4 episodes already just stop watching them, stick to manga and go post coments like "shippuden animation is mega crap" to other forum where they have flaming threads, or if you would like further discussion on the animation quality create a thread for that.

Shippuden rocks and ive seen a lot of chapters from the begining again, and if you know abolut, study or appreciate graphic design work you notice the upgrade that has been made on the animations so far. a sand fight like that is just really hard to animate and make it look 100% smooth because of the animation texture and flow considering this is sand they are working with.

[-RX-]

Ok. i believe everyone except you and sharingan_user agrees that the only part that wasnt as good animated as the rest was the gaara sand scenes, i wonder if you study or know atleast anything about graphic design because its really hard to animate sand in the way they did, if you could do it better maybe u should be the one working on the studio dont you think ? also it has been 4 chapters from shippuuden and if you think is mega crap why do you keep bothering, just dont download it, dont watch it, therefore dont come posting how you dont like it. besides this thread is for people that watch/ed episode 4 because they like it , not a thread to flame the animation, if you dont like it so far because as i said its been 4 episodes already just stop watching them, stick to manga and go post coments like "shippuden animation is mega crap" to other forum where they have flaming threads, or if you would like further discussion on the animation quality create a thread for that.

Shippuden rocks and ive seen a lot of chapters from the begining again, and if you know abolut, study or appreciate graphic design work you notice the upgrade that has been made on the animations so far. a sand fight like that is just really hard to animate and make it look 100% smooth because of the animation texture and flow considering this is sand they are working with.
Firstly i didn't flame...(did i?)
Secondly i (in my opinion)clearly made a joke when i said i could make a better animation(my animation sticks to drawing circles in MSpaint...)
Thirdly...
this thread is for people that watch/ed episode 4 because they like it
this thread is for general discussion,not just saying how great the ep was...
Fourthly i considered making new thread about the animation,but then i realized that i was the only one thinking that animation was bad so i gave up on that idea...
Fifthly i don't read manga

Weather making the animation is hard or not is beside the point here.They(Naruto animators) are all professionals,so making anime shouldn't be too hard for them,and if it is then they should step aside and let others do it.

[Kyuubi No Yoko]

Firstly i didn't flame...(did i?)

View point # 3

Secondly i (in my opinion)clearly made a joke when i said i could make a better animation(my animation sticks to drawing circles in MSpaint...)

lol. :p

Thirdly...

this thread is for general discussion,not just saying how great the ep was...

Agreed. but posting "animation is mega crap" and "shippuden is made by noobs" is hardly general discussion, nor constructive argument at all towards the animation. wich it leads to the edge of becoming a flame although its not. u never flamed. my comment was just that, its ok to discuss if you dont find the animation good but i think there could be better ways to speak your mind and discuss about it. ;)

Fourthly i considered making new thread about the animation,but then i realized that i was the only one thinking that animation was bad so i gave up on that idea...
Fifthly i don't read manga

No comment :p

Weather making the animation is hard or not is beside the point here.They(Naruto animators) are all professionals,so making anime shouldn't be too hard for them,and if it is then they should step aside and let others do it.

I agree with you on that if they could find some one that can do it better then they should step aside but if not its ok.

[uzumaki-Naruto*]

is it me guys or are the episode's shorter like 15 min naruto

[steve]

Animation, maybe not on par with parts of part 1... but seriously, when animation sucks I normally stop during the episode and think to myelf "gee... the animation sucks this ep" but I never did that... and anyone remember the kiba vs naruto fight? How about parts of naruto vs kimi fight? There are lots of examples from part 1 of subpar animation.... much more subpar then what we are getting right now.

I mean, any member who's been here from the times before filler will remember that every episode, EVERY WEEK someone complains about the animation. People even complained about ep 133(because a different studio did it to make it more fluid... and they drew a few models wrong... but the ep is still arguably the best episode of naruto to date, atleast, many people would say that).

Animation isnt that much worse the nit used to be, and its only worse then the really quality parts of part 1. I would imagine that when we get to the more intense points we will see a higher quality animation, but for now, I don't see any problem.

I think everything is being really well done, I really enjoyed this episode. Complaining right now is pointless, we've waited so long for part 2 to start and its finally here.

and regina, marry me. haha thats becoming my sig.

EDIT: @ uzumaki-Naruto*. Every episode is 22 minutes long, give or take 30 seconds. You probably couldve looked in your video que for that fine snippet.

[sharingan_user]

Animation isnt that much worse the nit used to be, and its only worse then the really quality parts of part 1. I would imagine that when we get to the more intense points we will see a higher quality animation, but for now, I don't see any problem.


i hope so....

[zerikx]

Ok. i believe everyone except you and sharingan_user agrees that the only part that wasnt as good animated as the rest was the gaara sand scenes, i wonder if you study or know atleast anything about graphic design because its really hard to animate sand in the way they did, if you could do it better maybe u should be the one working on the studio dont you think ? also it has been 4 chapters from shippuuden and if you think is mega crap why do you keep bothering, just dont download it, dont watch it, therefore dont come posting how you dont like it. besides this thread is for people that watch/ed episode 4 because they like it , not a thread to flame the animation, if you dont like it so far because as i said its been 4 episodes already just stop watching them, stick to manga and go post coments like "shippuden animation is mega crap" to other forum where they have flaming threads, or if you would like further discussion on the animation quality create a thread for that.

Shippuden rocks and ive seen a lot of chapters from the begining again, and if you know abolut, study or appreciate graphic design work you notice the upgrade that has been made on the animations so far. a sand fight like that is just really hard to animate and make it look 100% smooth because of the animation texture and flow considering this is sand they are working with.


Lol that doesent change thy fact that thy animation suks ;) ....many people was expectig something better.... not this low budget crap..........i mean so it worths a lot of o money to do good animatios, yeah AND???? hell, they should have money to do it by now.. back then when the anime was starting they'd used much muuch better animations than now so.... whats going on??

I dont care about filler in eps, but i was expecting good smooth fights like the one's i dreamed of like for 2 years (goes back to the corner to cry in pain....)

[steve]

* part one had MANY episodes of far worse quality then this
- to your merit, they also had better episodes

My closing statements: There's alot of complaining going on. Yes, the animation wasn't as good as it could have been. However, it was not nearly as bad as some of the shit we've seen in the past. It was fluid, and easily understood.
But I forgot... its not naruto if someone doesn't complain.

[panickinu]

Simply an awsome episode. Gaara vs. Deidara. Its just sad that gaara looses(hey if that didnt happen i really dont see the story going anywhere). Although it was quite cool, i really wanted it to last about 44 mins long. Seriously 22 mins felt like 5 mins. Anyway the 15th march one will probably a double since its their big battle. Another 2 weeks ...jesus....

P.s i thought the animation was exeleent, the pre-fillers sucked. aprt from nearer to ep 135 or so then it was good.

Fuck You. No censored words needed, I mean it. Fuck You.

[NMK]

I agree completely with Steve. When the more intense parts come there'll propably be a much greater animation. In Shippuuden Episode 1, the beginning when they were searching for Sasuke. That was some great animation IMO.

I also agree with what panickinu just said.

[Omaki_Roku]

garaa without his mad exression....to me he looks like a candy ass and kills his character.....i liked hm better when he was pissed off all the time.

I love the music though to me it gives this new series a more mature vibe to it. Classical Orcastraic tunes over Rock tracks.

Imma Saint Seiya fan thats all they did was use orcastraic and it made the series that much more emotional when it came to certain scenes.

But i hope they can come up with a track thats just as emotional as sadness and sorrow that song was a jewel

[Hidden Ninja]

gaara has changed. naruto had that effect on him. every character has grown and developed. it would be kind of stupid to have a blood thirsty kage. that would be pretty linear.

as to the animation. everything was good except for a couple of points.

the sand repeated in its movement when gaara was up in the air.
kakashi did the same seals - though i think they kept it the same just to show how incredibly fast he did it.

otherwise the animation was quite fluid, it segued to and from quite nicely. also its dark because its nighttime...what do you want, the sun to be out? i've never heard so many people complain before. first you bitch because there is no naruto, now its complaints that naruto is not good enough.

ok, if it is indeed new animators, i will say they are doing a hell of a better job than the initial animators. you cannot compare the end of the 1st half to the beginning of the second. the first animators had time to improve their techniques. just view the first couple of episodes to show that.

also, if you guys are so disappointed, stop watching it. read the manga and don't watch the anime. that way you can create everything else in your mind and if it sucks then, then its only your fault.

~ninja vanish~

[KageNaruto]

biggest thing im angry about is how they made diedara look non-threatening. in the manga you could tell he was dangerous, here, i had to explain to my friends he doesent suck like they were assuming.

i mean, he throws the bombs at the sand and not even at gaara, the sand didnt even have to move in the way, he just missed completely on his own.

next episode better make him seem awsome or i'll be angry for them making diedara less cool!

by the way, was the scene where gaara raised his hands and the giant explodion of sand from behind the city happened so he could use the sand, was that taken out or did i just somehow miss it. cause damn, that was the coolest moment

[Kyuubi No Yoko]

gaara has changed. naruto had that effect on him. every character has grown and developed. it would be kind of stupid to have a blood thirsty kage. that would be pretty linear.

as to the animation. everything was good except for a couple of points.

the sand repeated in its movement when gaara was up in the air.
kakashi did the same seals - though i think they kept it the same just to show how incredibly fast he did it.

otherwise the animation was quite fluid, it segued to and from quite nicely. also its dark because its nighttime...what do you want, the sun to be out? i've never heard so many people complain before. first you bitch because there is no naruto, now its complaints that naruto is not good enough.

ok, if it is indeed new animators, i will say they are doing a hell of a better job than the initial animators. you cannot compare the end of the 1st half to the beginning of the second. the first animators had time to improve their techniques. just view the first couple of episodes to show that.

also, if you guys are so disappointed, stop watching it. read the manga and don't watch the anime. that way you can create everything else in your mind and if it sucks then, then its only your fault.

~ninja vanish~

100% Agreed :cool: .

KageNaruto: it did happen but it was quite different from the way it was shown on the manga

[Uchiha_Blaze]

Oh man taht was an awesom episode imo, i dont know why so many guys bitch about it >.> . Anyway i realy realy hope that Deidara beats the crap out of Gaara but wel see what happens in the next ep.

[NMK]

Gaara looks like a teddy bear.

And Kankuro looks so wierd! His face looks like a paper damn it, could he be more plain?

[LuCas]

Lol his face looks like a paper

[NMK]

But it really does -_-

[Hidden Ninja]

yea that is one of the only characters i don't like how its drawn in the anime. he just looks weird with purple paint on his face.

[NMK]

I don't mind the purple paint at all, but he looked a lot better in "part 1". No he looks flat and boring.

[Gouchi]

Already seen 4..I'm waiting for 5 and the rest damnit!:mad:

[lifeordeath2]

I could be wrong, but isn't this the frist time we've sen Gara able to use Shakaku's hand without being taken over by him? I thought that really showed major growth as well as the other awesome new sand techniques. The story is fine IMO...can't wait to see the next ep!!! I wopuldn't have even noticed the animation as much because of the story. There were some very good points made about the animation being crappy in some sequences, but again, I'm so glad the fillers are over, and the story has me hyped up, So the animation didn't take away from the ep.

[NMK]

Already seen 4..I'm waiting for 5 and the rest damnit!:mad:

You'll hafto wait until 15th March ;) And Episode 6-7 are released 29th

[Spangle]

OMG that is so gay! But i liked the episode :D

[Jessyan]

spangle u got new avatar!

To the episode! It was good episode but the animation wasn't so good afterall. Example gaara vs deidara wasn't so good animated than usually (for me).

[Kratos]

This episode was ok. The Gaara vs Deidara fight was pretty good, but I think it could have been better. I can't wait to see how it ends. And Naruto thought of a good plan to beat Kakashi. It sucks we have to wait two weeks for the next episode.

[Jessyan]

This episode was ok. The Gaara vs Deidara fight was pretty good, but I think it could have been better. I can't wait to see how it ends. And Naruto thought of a good plan to beat Kakashi. It sucks we have to wait two weeks for the next episode.

Ye that kinda sucks to wait 2 weeks for next episode, but life is sometimes brutal

[Spangle]

Arh I hate it when they do this it is annoying

[Hidden Ninja]

it is, but i guess it may be because of extra needed time to make the animation flawless? ha i wish.

[NarutoNineTails]

If anyone is a manga reader, they better not be making predictions on what will be the result a fight in the anime like what happened here in this thread between diedra and garra. -_- The person that did this should get a warning or a temporary ban imo.

And I agree, that comparison Naruto made about Kakashi being able to match even the gennin level Kiba's sense of smell is ridiculous.

[Spangle]

If anyone is a manga reader, they better not be making predictions on what will be the result a fight in the anime like what happened here in this thread between diedra and garra. -_- The person that did this should get a warning or a temporary ban imo.

And I agree, that comparison Naruto made about Kakashi being able to match even the gennin level Kiba's sense of smell is ridiculous.

Yeah but the one thing with Kiba's sense of smell is alot higher level then a normal genin and Naruto said that he had a better sense of smell then Kiba

[Hidden Ninja]

If anyone is a manga reader, they better not be making predictions on what will be the result a fight in the anime like what happened here in this thread between diedra and garra. -_- The person that did this should get a warning or a temporary ban imo.

And I agree, that comparison Naruto made about Kakashi being able to match even the gennin level Kiba's sense of smell is ridiculous.

i told that person to remove his statement a while ago, i don't know if he did.

[Spangle]

i told that person to remove his statement a while ago, i don't know if he did.

Who was it?

[NarutoNineTails]

i think it was anathan92?

[Spangle]

Ok it really annoys me when ppl spoil because some guy spoiled how Kakashi got his Sharingan. :mad:

[NarutoNineTails]

I swear some just don't care if they spoil or not. Pisses me off. We need an anime only watcher mod that will enforce this part of the rule in this forum strictly. ;)

[Spangle]

Yeah we really do need someone that does care about spoilers and would be strict about that sort of thing like me or you would be a good candidate because we are both on alot and that sort of thing. :D

[Kratos]

Maybe a mod didn't see it.

[Spangle]

Yeah that is why we need a mod that is only in this section.

[LuCas]

NarutoNineTails for president ;)

[Spangle]

Yeah stuff mod go president :D

[KageNaruto]

stop spamming, we need a spam mod now, aaaaah!

so back on the topic of the episode, does anybody else think shukaku's claws move waaaaaay to slow, perhaps so much that they arent even worth making. also i belive gaara can make his own sand shields with great speed now, fighting lee taught him he needs to create a defense faster imo

[Hidden Ninja]

shukaku's hands did move very slow, but it was a lot more sand and it was not "his sand". so i am guessing that he does it takes a lot more chakra/effort to use so much terrain. plus gaara was holding himself up way in the sky.

what we saw move fast was the sand from his back, so i think it is trying to be implied that there is a difference between the two.

on a side note, i would nominate nnt to be the mod but i think that a mod for the anime section would need to read both the anime and manga so they would know what is considered spoilers. though its not necessary to do both, but it would not spoil anything for a pure anime moderator.

[NarutoNineTails]

Stop contradicting yourself KN...you probably have the most spam out of all of us...lol. ;)

[Vishox]

I'm hoping that once this little bit of plot is out the way it'll speed up. Its disappointing that they've dragged out these parts of the story over 4 eps when realistically it could've been done by the third, having a bit of the next part in that episode as well. Its not like the manga isn't far enough either, theres around 100 manga eps to go through still!

I may have been watching too much bleach over naruto (faster pace altogether) but its just that if it stays this slow throughout, one arc in the near future is going to be ridiculously long when it gets animated!

[Hiyo]

so back on the topic of the episode, does anybody else think shukaku's claws move waaaaaay to slow, perhaps so much that they arent even worth making. also i belive gaara can make his own sand shields with great speed now, fighting lee taught him he needs to create a defense faster imo

Slow compared to the other sand he was using. But if he connected with the huge hand it's going to pwn a ninja a lot more then the other sand.

[NarutoNineTails]

I'm not sure if it is because the presentation itself has gotten worse or if it is because I have already seen these episodes in advanced in the manga. I am so far quite disappointed in the first 4 episodes of shippunden.

[DonEmu]

I'm not sure if it is because the presentation itself has gotten worse or if it is because I have already seen these episodes in advanced in the manga. I am so far quite disappointed in the first 4 episodes of shippunden.

Same, i think its the presentation being poor, cause it feel anticlimatic to me, waiting for the fillers to end for so long then...meh!

Its still good though but, hmm...

[KageNaruto]

I'm not sure if it is because the presentation itself has gotten worse or if it is because I have already seen these episodes in advanced in the manga. I am so far quite disappointed in the first 4 episodes of shippunden.

i think its just they messed up a bit ao far, i always read the manga first and before time skip the anime wasnt as dissapointing as it is now. i still have faith in it though

[spacecadet319]

eh... i didnt read the manga so the show seems good to me...

so ure hurt.

[Toxic Anarch]

i think its just they messed up a bit ao far, i always read the manga first and before time skip the anime wasnt as dissapointing as it is now. i still have faith in it though

Admin Edit:
This is a super Major Spoiler. Check your PM

[lifeordeath2]

eh... i didnt read the manga so the show seems good to me...

so ure hurt.

Co-signing....I am not the least bit disapointed. Compared to the fillers, Shippuden is great IMO! I stilll watch the dubbed version on adult swim, and believe me, story arcs have always been slow. The 3rd Hokage still hasn't died, and Gaara is still fighting Naruto and flashbacking....this has been at least 4-5 eps!

[Hidden Ninja]

edited because it contains spoilers

dude, this is the anime section. remove it. you are so definitely spoiling it for those who are anime watchers only.

Mod Edit
please next time report.

[NMK]

Nice of you to spoil.

I don't read the manga any further than the anime is at that exact moment so the Anime isn't such a let down for me, it isn't bad, neither is it perfect. But it's good.

[DonEmu]

Whats with all the spoilers in this sections lately, "Toxic Anarch", delete your post...

[Hiyo]

Things will be better once they get the flashbacks and reintroduction of characters outta the way and we finally get to their new skills in action and the Akatsuki characters more.

[NarutoNineTails]

ok...i better watch for post count for noobies in these threads for the current episodes. Damn noobie spoilers...-_-

[NMK]

Haha true. When I hear that someone wrote something inappropriate or spoiled I just start to feel forced to read the post, it's really annoying at it has ruined some of the greatest scenes in Naruto so far -_-

[regina777]

Toxic Anarch and Ananth--

check your PM's for spoiling, especially Toxic.

[amod]

:cool: they should show better gara fight..
i recollect how they presented gara in chunnin exam. fearsome.
next is going to be more intresting if they take some efforts and show better fighting.:rolleyes:

[Sylo]

better fighting with better music and better animation, all out BETTER

[steve]

I Dont really see why everyone is so dissapointed with this episode. I really liked it. Animation a little under what it could have been... but It's really easy to complain. Were you entertained during this fight? I was. Ive watched the ep twice. It was all round good... Kakashi fighting with the handseals too, just awesome.

I read manga, those that also read manga should stop juding an episodes worth on how perfectly it follows manga storyline. If we get extra parts of the fight, then just enjoy it.

This is far better then the fillers... so we need to calm down.

ps. Its almost refreshing to see people getting reprimanded for spoiling, haha its been so long

[NarutoNineTails]

I read manga, those that also read manga should stop juding an episodes worth on how perfectly it follows manga storyline.

ps. Its almost refreshing to see people getting reprimanded for spoiling, haha its been so long

Steve if you read the manga then you should not be "speculating" on stuff like what the outcomes will be from a fight.

Pros:
- deidara vs gaara!!!
- kickass sand techniques, kickass explosive techniques
- the fight went on all episode *even if it was alot of filler
- well animated, fuck anyone who said it was shit earlier
- gaara is the shit. He protected himself well at the end. Diedara still has a ways to go. gaara is on par with atakusi though? We should stop fucking around... hes stronger then naruto as it is...
- i hope he doesn't lose but he will.... or else the story wouldn't advance right? thats my guess.

You basically spoiled in the last sentence of what I quoted above since you already know the outcome...it isn't speculating...u just packaged it as if u were. Don't do it again cuz u should have gotten the same spoiler warning from regina. ;)

[Spangle]

Dude don't spoil like that Steve! :mad:

[KageNaruto]

the way they did diedrara was easily a con. he looks not threatening, and is acting stupid, throwing the bombs at the sand and not gaara himself!

the explosives were a con also, the anime made it seem like deidara cant aim

[regina777]

steve spoiling too-- what is going on.

i guess he gets the same warning as Ananth

[LuCas]

If deidara loses I can still think of so many ways the storyline can still advance.

The best one would be: Sasori jumping in, saving deidara and retreating.

I agree with NNT.

[DonEmu]

the way they did diedrara was easily a con. he looks not threatening, and is acting stupid, throwing the bombs at the sand and not gaara himself!

the explosives were a con also, the anime made it seem like deidara cant aim

Yeah, i expected highly thought out battle tactics and delivery, i get a mad man throwing bombs any which way... O_o

Nice episode, but the winner is still poised, on one side gaara could win, and then he could go fight Sasori.

Or Deidara could win, but then what is left but taking him away? Or would a surprise backup come and help gaara right before his is taken away.

I cant really think of something happening to gaara, the battle is too strange but he is fighting Akatsuki on his own...

[Hiyo]

It would seem kinda stupid for Deidara to be in Akatuki if he isn't strong enough to defeat Gaara. Obvioulsy gaara has improved a lot but 2 1/2 years improvement from being nearly beaten by Sasuke to being stronger then someone thats in the same organization as Itachi? Would be pretty pathetic in my opinion if deidara didn't kick his ass.

[steve]

Steve if you read the manga then you should not be "speculating" on stuff like what the outcomes will be from a fight.



You basically spoiled in the last sentence of what I quoted above since you already know the outcome...it isn't speculating...u just packaged it as if u were. Don't do it again cuz u should have gotten the same spoiler warning from regina. ;)

haha you jerk. I can turn it around to

No one wouldve made any sort of connection if you hadn't gone back and copied it and made the comparison! youspoiled!
and besides which, its a good speculation, if he doesnt lose the story wont progress in a logical manner. THat doesnt necessarily mean he does lose, Kishi is excellent with plot twists.

ps. Regina, bleach section needs de-sticky'ing of some of the old sections. Oh and many of the members have spoilers in their sigs or avatars I'd like them all taken down with a warning please. Stare Decisis right?

[Hiyo]

Yeah it'd be stupid if the Akatsuki go after Gaara and lose and run home crying. It's not like there's a 3 year skip to save him.

[UndrDog]

Yeah I don't think what Steve said was spoiling. Now the people posting afterwards confirming what he said is spoiling.

Just report spoilers, don't bother pointing them out.

And I'm not too sure what people are expecting. We are only four episodes into it. Once the anime writers get confortable with the pacing of the anime with the manga it will straighten out.

[Kyuubi No Yoko]

Yeah I don't think what Steve said was spoiling. Now the people posting afterwards confirming what he said is spoiling.

Just report spoilers, don't bother pointing them out.

And I'm not too sure what people are expecting. We are only four episodes into it. Once the anime writers get confortable with the pacing of the anime with the manga it will straighten out.


I agree with you and that might be the reason why they are going to do this episode 05 and then 06-07 thing with the weeks without naruto in between . ( well thats my speculation since i dot know if there is a real reason why that will happen :p ) but i hope they are using the time to do some special things to shippuuden

[anantha92]

i dont consider that spoiling, its logic. Unless he does read the manga...hmmm. Anyway it sucks that tehre isnt an episode this week.

[jounin101]

I see NNT is still that old spoiler watchdog with 3 legs;) what steve did was nothing, and the outcome is yet to be determined. if you believe they are spoilers, just report them, p.m the guy who did it and move on, there's no need for you to be hall monitor when you're not a mod.lol. by bringing public attention to it, you are showing all other anime watcher what an outcome may be, when they basically just thought steve was speculating right along with them. if anyone spoiled, it was you playing "inspector gadget" and overanalyzing things to try to convict somebody.

why would kishi kill off diedara roughly 5 episodes after introducing him??? it only makes sense(and common sense) that deidara should win in this aspect, no?

well, 06-07 is titled "art is an explosion!" so i'm guessing its about deidara(meaning he's still alive, even after the next episode is entitled "as the kazekage")

all of these are arguments of logic, regardless of what someone does or doesnt know, which is what steve did.

[NarutoNineTails]

READ the rules folks...no "speculating" on outcomes of things when u r a manga reader. It just isn't possible to "speculate" if one knows the outcome...simple as that as stated in the forum rules. And even if your opinions are right (which isn't) the rules state otherwise so tough luck. I should know this rule pretty well cuz I wrote it w/ a former mod. ;)

And I can argue easily that Garra was close to kage level prior to the time skip if someone wants to try me also. ;)

[rkappiyo]

And I can argue easily that Garra was close to kage level prior to the time skip if someone wants to try me also. ;)

Since Naruto beat him pre-time skip, that means Naruto was kage-level back then, too right? Meaning that he is what now, uber-sannin+? Also, since Kakashi could deal with Naruto's attacks, then he is now even higher than that?

[UndrDog]

lol Remember, there's a difference in level between Hokage and Kazekage. It's not written, but I think it's fairly well excepted that Konoha pwns the other major villiages. I mean Suna couldn't take out Konoha with a Bijuu and the Sound villiage helping. Even if Gaara was at a Kage level, he wasn't at a HOkage level.

Yeah that's a crap post. lol

[DonEmu]

NNT, most of the time u are the one who enforces the spoiling, if i was to make a speculation now, no one would see it as anything, then u come along, quote my speculation and say i am a manga reader, that is when it becomes a spoiler....

What steve said, no one took it as a spoiler, everyone took it as his speculation, then u made it quite clear that steve has read manga so therefore anything steve says is factually going to happen O_o

Gaara is strong, to say konoha has the strongest Kage is flawed, i would love to see tsunade try and fight Gaara. Gaara is a kage now though, and he has grown considerably so ppl shouldnt right him off, as i said, i think he is afar too important character to just get pwned, no matter how strong Deidara may be.

[UndrDog]

I hate to add to this but I feel I should mention that the only way an anime exclusive member will know that certain people read the manga is if they visit the manga section or keep a vigulant eye on the "last topic updated" link for the manga room. As far as the anime exclusives are concerned every post in here is speculation unless directly stated as a statement and not as speculation.

[NarutoNineTails]

lol...pre time skip...we saw garra grow by miles ahead of the state that he fought Naruto. Few people here seem to forget the power of Garra that was displayed against Kimi...lol.

Kimi was argued as close to kage or at kage level already. Start a thread if anyone wants to try me on this topic.

NNT, most of the time u are the one who enforces the spoiling, if i was to make a speculation now, no one would see it as anything, then u come along, quote my speculation and say i am a manga reader, that is when it becomes a spoiler....

What steve said, no one took it as a spoiler, everyone took it as his speculation, then u made it quite clear that steve has read manga so therefore anything steve says is factually going to happen O_o


And I wasn't sure steve as a manga reader so I let it pass when I first read that post. But he later in the same thread mentions that he was a manga reader...lol. It isn't my fault that he revealed that info...lol. Now he can no longer "speculate" on the anime. And I can go easily go into the manga section of the forum and not read the material while seeing who posts there too. MANGA readers CAN NOT SPECULATE in this section of the forum unless it is speculation also in the manga section.

If manga readers want to talk about the epiosde without the fear of spoiling why don't u guys just start a thread in the MANGA SECTION about what happened in each of the episodes?

[-RX-]

It's really unfortunate that some people don't understand meaning "no spoilers".Because of that some things (that haven't occurred in the anime)have been ruined for me and i totally hate it.Mods should definitely pay more attention to people who spoil...

Anyways,the only good part of this episode was when Gaara said "Sabaku rou"...

[NMK]

NNT, I agree with DonEmu and steve. If you hadn't mentioned that he reads the manga nobody would've bothered since it seems like nobody remembers his "I do read the Manga" post, or payed any attention to it. I didn't care about what he wrote in the end, anyone who read that post would've cared as much as I did. It just looked like a regular speculation but then you mentioned the Manga. But still, I agree with you about "no "speculating" on outcomes of things when u r a manga reader. It just isn't possible to "speculate" if one knows the outcome."
Let's put it this way, steve put a spoiler in a box, and you opened that box for everyone to see.

No offence, you're one of my favorite persons in this forum.


Since Naruto beat him pre-time skip, that means Naruto was kage-level back then, too right? Meaning that he is what now, uber-sannin+? Also, since Kakashi could deal with Naruto's attacks, then he is now even higher than that?


So you think that Gaara wasn't included in the timeskip? It's not only the Konoha Shinobi's who get stronger.

[NarutoNineTails]

NNT, I agree with DonEmu and steve. If you hadn't mentioned that he reads the manga nobody would've bothered since it seems like nobody remembers his "I do read the Manga" post, or payed any attention to it.

I easily noticed this and others could have noticed that too. Maybe I catch these things better than others...lol. ;)

I guess I could have let steve know thru PM what he did. I'll take that into account for the next time. ;)

Please do not "speculate" on outcomes you already know manga readers...I can easily tell the probable outcomes of the anime from these "speculations" and make the anime MUCH less enjoyable.

[Hiyo]

I hate when people speculate when I know they read the manga. But that speculation was pretty irrelevant. Atleast if people wanna point out people posting stuff like that do it with a friendly pm saying maybe they should change it.
Have a little respect for the people that post here. Sometimes they don't think and comments come out. Just edit and send a friendly pm. Don't need to give them an e-scolding so everyone can see lol.

[regina777]

Didnt i already edit Steve's post-- so why is there so much talk still going on about spoiling and speculation, etc

When you see an issue- report it to me. There is no way i can check and read soo many posts in addition to all the other stuff that have to be attended to.

Please stay on topic.

[rkappiyo]

So you think that Gaara wasn't included in the timeskip? It's not only the Konoha Shinobi's who get stronger.

He (NNT) said Gaara was kage-level pre-time skip. I disagreed. When did I say Gaara didn't become stronger during the time skip? He definitely did, and is showing it in his fight with Deidara.

[NarutoNineTails]

And guess what you did?...u were comparing Garra to Naruto. There is quite a gap between the time skip and that battle. ;)

[rkappiyo]

And guess what you did?...u were comparing Garra to Naruto. There is quite a gap between the time skip and that battle. ;)

Yes, when Naruto beat Gaara. If Gaara was kage-level pre-time skip, then during the battle between Naruto and Gaara (occurred pre-time skip), Naruto was above kage-level when he beat Gaara. Meaning that now, after the time skip, both Gaara and Naruto are on some ungodly level. And since Kakashi was able to deal with Naruto's attacks during the bell test, his level is even ungodlier.

[NarutoNineTails]

Yes, when Naruto beat Gaara. If Gaara was kage-level pre-time skip, then during the battle between Naruto and Gaara (occurred pre-time skip), Naruto was above kage-level when he beat Gaara. Meaning that now, after the time skip, both Gaara and Naruto are on some ungodly level. And since Kakashi was able to deal with Naruto's attacks during the bell test, his level is even ungodlier.

oh really?...please quote when I said that. Too funny. ;)

[rkappiyo]

Well, the only thing that I said you said was this:


And I can argue easily that Garra was close to kage level prior to the time skip if someone wants to try me also. ;)

This is what I was refuting by saying that then the current Naruto and Gaara would be ridiculously strong, meaning that someone like Kakashi is just mind-blowingly powerful.

Also, you said that there was a long time between Naruto and Gaara's fight and the timeskip? No, there wasn't. After the skip, Naruto and Jiraiya went to find Tsunade (I don't know how long that took, but it definitely didn't take longer than 2 or 3 months or so, if that much). Not too much longer after that, Sasuke tries to run away, there is a huge fight with the Sand and Konoha nin against the Sand Four, then the timeskip. All-in-all, maybe 4 or 5 months passed. I don't think that Gaara could have improved very drastically in 4 or 5 months.

Edit: Maybe you thought it was a long time because of the endless fillers?

Edit: And since the fillers have no relation to the storyline whatsoever, any improvement gained during that time is worthless now that the anime is once again following the manga.

[Hiyo]

I don't think Gaara was kage level at all pre-skip. He only fought Genins and in the flashback his aunt (I think it was a girl right??) didn't seem too impressive.

And when I say "he fought" I mean Gaara, not shukkaku.

How hard is it to beat ninjas when you have a near absolute defense and just need to catch them in your sand and crush them. Kakashi/Gai could have killed Gaara pre-skip. No doubts in my mind at all.

Obviously he has learn a lot and gotten much stronger. With an absolute defense it's no wonder he is kazekage now. I dunno where he stands compared to the higher Jounins in Konoha. But personally I think any of the Sannin could defeat him.

[UndrDog]

I don't think Gaara was kage level at all pre-skip. He only fought Genins and in the flashback his aunt (I think it was a girl right??) didn't seem too impressive.

Yet another character who's childhood seems to promote gender confusion.

[NarutoNineTails]

rkappiyo,
I find it interesting how u r still ignoring my post about Garra vs Kimi. ;)

[Hidden Ninja]

even if you take the weakest of the sannin, i am pretty sure tsunade can beat gaara. if she can demolish a whole chunk of wall/ground without any effect i am quite sure she can easily crack gaara's sand defense.

its an autodefense but it is not impenetrable. gaara has been shown a couple times when his sand is cracking.

[LuCas]

Erm, whoever said naruto is kazekage/hokage level just because he kind of beat gaara back then is not true IMO.

Naruto had to be smart to beat gaara, while gaara was just attacking him plain (From what I remember) - plus with gamabunta or whatever that frog's name is guiding naruto. Naruto would probably have lost if that frog didn't know how to talk! :p

Right now it still just seems gaara is taking his time fighting deidara, his face doesn't even look like hes trying. Deidara is trying to be smart to beat gaara instead.

But I don't really like seeing some 5 million billion gajillion foot monster try to fight some cockroach anyhow, I get bored watching these :/

[rkappiyo]

rkappiyo,
I find it interesting how u r still ignoring my post about Garra vs Kimi. ;)

Sorry, I didn't see that post originally. However, now that I have, watching that fight, I agree that Gaara (by the way Gaara is with two a's, not two r's) had improved by that point, but I still don't think that was quite kage-level due to the fact that while Gaara was impressive in that fight, I think that Kimimaro wouldn't have had a shot against either the 3rd Hokage or Tsunade.

[rkappiyo]

Erm, whoever said naruto is kazekage/hokage level just because he kind of beat gaara back then is not true IMO.

Naruto had to be smart to beat gaara, while gaara was just attacking him plain. (From what I remember).

Right now it still just seems gaara is taking his time fighting deidara, his face doesn't even look like hes trying. Deidara is trying to be smart to beat gaara instead.

But I don't really like seeing some 5 million billion gajillion foot monster try to fight some cockroach a