what else can byukagen do?

[KeyserSozei]

what else do those wicked white eyes do!?
here's some suggestions

[Anbu Kakashi]

Well personally I don't think they can do much more than what Neji has shown us. He has proven himself to be the best utilizer of those "wicked white eyes". Be that as it may, there is the possibility of him hiding some of his techniques. And now that I'm actually thinking about it, theres gott be more to that little symbol area of his other than just stricking range. So there is potentally some hidden techniques. But im not voting for those.

[YamaNekoX]

Byukagan just lets the user see all over the place, almost 360 degrees all around, just that they have a tiny blind spot.
They can also see the chakra circulatory system, which is advantageous, but not that big.
I think that's about all the byukagen can do, heh.

[KeyserSozei]

well.. i know that..
but i wanted your thoughts on..
"if" it could do other things..
what else could it do!? like suggestions

[sakura711]

I don't think that byakugan can do other things but to see things our naked eye can't see.

[Sxy n Jts]

Well, for me it's the sharingan destroyer!!!!!!!
Bwahaha 8)
Byakugan only let us see the things a normal person can't see.

[Morpheus]

Maybe I am just the right person to answer this accurately. (and humbly 8) )

Watching carefully most episodes more than once, I can list what the anime has shown so far about byakugan's powers:

1.) It has a 359 degree field of vision, so it can see incoming attacks from almost anywhere.

2.) It can see through things (flesh, body).

3.) It can see things from a distance like if it were clairvoyance.(As Hinata did on the Forest of Death).

4.) It can read someone emotions and thinking by seeing through your subtle movements. In other words, it see through your inside and read you.

5.) It can see chakra flow and chakra circulatory system.

This can all be summarized as that the byakugan is a type of psychic vision, than enables its user to read psychic impresions, chakra and to see beyond matter and distance.

I have to mention that Jyuken, and Kaiten are powers not related directly to the Byakugan, but from another Hyuga bloodline limit developed later, that is the capability to discharge chakra through their chakra holes, first from their hands, then from their whole body. So we can guess that through generations they first got their psychic vision, so they could see your chakra holes, then, to attack them, they developed Jyuken, finally, able to see their own chakra holes, they learned how to discharge chakra from them and protect themselves with Kaiten. Kaiten was just teached on the Main Family, but Genius Neji mastered it on his own.

I am pretty sure of what I've said here. Any comments? Post it!!
See yaa Naruto FREAKS :)

[Lukasz]

I voted for sharingan destroy. i think sharingan would not work against byakugan. i think they are imune to it (hyuuga)

[ZrAeNiAn]

byukagan is a whole lot stronger then sharingan :)

i think that we havent seen the true power of byukagan yet. Oke Neji explained some stuff and they told about it, but its one of the greatest secrets.

-Zr-

[Lukasz]

i dont think that Neji knows EVERYTHING about white eyes. I mean he is still young and inexperiendce. he knows more about BG than Sasuke about Shar but still he doesnt have full knowladge about it.

[KeyserSozei]

everyone's posting what it can do...
i know what it can do..
i just made some stuff up if anyone thought
it would be cool "if" it could do other things
just for fun..
but good explanations anyways

[NarutoNineTails]

4.) It can read someone emotions and thinking by seeing through your subtle movements. In other words, it see through your inside and read you.



It is better than this. I don't know if Neji has gotten to this level but Hiashi can sense what others are thinking without even the constipation face. ^^

He sensed his brother's intent to kill Hinata without even looking at him in episode 51 or 52. It is in this same episode that it is also revealed that Hyuuga are the trump card of Konoha. Uchiha clan is still perfectly intact at this point too.

I vote for sharingan destroyer. ^^

[NarutoNineTails]

In terms of what it can do:

I think bya users will be immune to genjutsu since they can see thru "anything". They will be able to see thru the illusions so genjutsu will be rendered useless. For example, bya users can concentrate on the chakra circulatory system. They will be able to see "stick figures made out of chakra" no matter how powerful the genjutsu.

[DonkeyBalls]

I wanna see Hinata's dad go all out with them, verse itachi, thatd be awesome

[NarutoNineTails]

Tsukuyomi is a blood line limit and since Sharingan evolved from Byakugan and Uchiha and Hyuuga probably have very similar genes to each other, I think it is possible that Hyuuga could be immune or at least less susceptible to tsukuyomi.

[Lukasz]

yep. it would be fun to watch. itachi would be running away (he doesnt have any chance in close combat) and hiashi would be after him. sharingan is useless against hiashi. itachi knows lot of jutsus it is his only hope :P

[DonkeyBalls]

Yeah we always see the kids using the special skills, but they are nothing to the adults who have mastered them, Neji is nothing compared to Hiashi

[NarutoNineTails]

Even though Itachi is super strong, he seems to run away quite a bit ;)

[Lukasz]

hehe yeah
wonder how this black fire move works
it destroyed the body of the rock frog. so it must be super powerful. I dont think Kaiten would stop it.

[NarutoNineTails]

yep. it would be fun to watch. itachi would be running away (he doesnt have any chance in close combat) and hiashi would be after him. sharingan is useless against hiashi. itachi knows lot of jutsus it is his only hope :P

Not 100% true about Sharingan being useless against Hiashi. Itachi has his other blood line limit, that black fire thing. I wonder if Kaiten could block that? I don't think the chakra from Kaiten itself can block it completely but the force of the spin could blow the fire away from Hiashi.

[Lukasz]

maybe it isnt fire?
laser is not fire but if it hit something it can creat fire
this black fire move maybe is similar
so kaiten wouldnt be able to blow it away.

[NarutoNineTails]

Good point Lukasz...but I still think it would be closer to a fire based jutsu. Uchiha seems to be good fire users as displayed by Sasuke.

[Lukasz]

heh
but sasuke fire jutsu are from mouth. this black fire is from eyes.
maybe he makes something explode?

[NarutoNineTails]

Even if the black fire can beat Kaiten, Hiashi can probably dodge it. He has his sixth sense. ;)

[Lukasz]

but if it makes things explode how can hiashi dodge??
(BTW: how do you like my sig NNT? i made it myself :P )

[NarutoNineTails]

Since you say I yell I don't like it...hahaha

Just kidding ;) I like it. Only complain I have is that Naruto is blocking the best feature of NineTails...his eyes.

[NarutoNineTails]

If you remember Neji's first Kaiten vs Naruto, Kaiten can be activated without the spin. If it is a explosion than I don't think it can penetrate thru Kaiten especially if the spin is involved. If it is like a laser than it would be different. I believe it would penetrate Kaiten even thru the spin. Hiashi would have to dodge that.

[Lukasz]

yeah. you may be right. but if itachi uses it and miss it is end of the fight. he will be too tired to run away and too tired to use any other jutsu. so hiashi will catch him and then....ONE super killing punch using fingers :P!!

[narutofanboy]

um maybe NEji's crazy white eyes can um.... SEEE DEAD PEOPLE!!!! AHHHHHHHH

hahaahahhahha

ya that would be tight...

[KeyserSozei]

i think i put advanced copy technique myself
that would be cool if
it could copy bloodline limits...
that would murder sharingan

[Lukasz]

i dont think byakugan can copy jutsus. sharingan can but not byakugan.

[Morpheus]

Not 100% true about Sharingan being useless against Hiashi. Itachi has his other blood line limit, that black fire thing. I wonder if Kaiten could block that? I don't think the chakra from Kaiten itself can block it completely but the force of the spin could blow the fire away from Hiashi.


I don't think it is a bloodline limit. It is only a special powerful jutsu.

[NarutoNineTails]

I think it would be blood line limit. I can't see some other clan member being able to perform that black fire move. It was an offensive eye jutsu probably utilizing sharingan somehow. Who else have sharingan other than Uchiha and Kakashi? I don't think Kakashi would be able to copy it. If he could then it wouldn't be a blood line limit. I would think only Sasuke has a chance of learning that move also.

[Morpheus]

I don't think that is the right way to determine if a jutsu is a bloodline limit or not. You will be seeing many powerful jutsus that others cannot do, that doesn't mean they are bloodline limits. Remember, a Sharingan user has the benefit of a keen accurate sight, that can help perform many jutsus more effectively, and that doesnt mean those jutsus are bloodline limits. There are complex jutsus, involving chakra manipulation and no hand seals. I am sure there are jutsus easier to copy than others. I am sure Itachi cannot copy many of Jiraiya super powerful jutsus, and they are not bloodline limits. Do you think that Sasuke can copy the technique Naruto is now learning (chakra whirl at his hand) just by seeing it? I don't think so. And it is not a bloodline limit. Don't be guessing jutsus are bloodline limits until they are said to be. I think Sharigan can only copy ninjutsus or genjutsus that require a secuence of hand seals, and taijutsu techniques. That is what seems logical to me.

[NarutoNineTails]

I agree that we don't know if it is a blood line limit. I can still speculate that it is. It was an eye jutsu like Tsukuyomi and we know tsukuyomi is a blood line limit. Why can't some people have more than one especially for a super genious like Itachi. I think he was able to develop another one for his clan.

I don't know that many of Jiraiya's powerful jutsus but most of them are related to summonings which can't be copied anyway.

I agree w/ you about sharingan not being able to copy rasengan. I never made a reference about that anyways.

[NarutoNineTails]

Also, if it is a technique only possible when having sharingan AND being a uchiha, it is a blood line limit. I don't think anyone other than an uchiha can even perform that black fire jutsu even if they were taught how to use it.

[Anbu Dr J]

i dont think its a "sharingan destroyer" probably to tell movements or emotions

[Morpheus]

Also, if it is a technique only possible when having sharingan AND being a uchiha, it is a blood line limit. I don't think anyone other than an uchiha can even perform that black fire jutsu even if they were taught how to use it.

Ok ok, we will see about that :)
Time will tell...

Speaking of other Byakugan abilities, I wouldn't be surprised if Byakugan could allow a user to see through total darkness. Because is some type of psychic vision it probably can see things somehow without any light at all (chakra doesn't need to reflect light to be seen, so at least people could be seen). Needless to say, that could give a byakugan user a huge advantage in many shinobi situations.

Other thing I can speculate is that Byakugan cannot be fooled by many Genjutsus. I still don't understand why Sharingan can see genjutsu as chakra sources. I think Byakugan should see them the same way, or different somehow. Maybe some jutsus that affect your mind in a powerful way can't be countered, but at least it should give a great advantage against illusions because of its "I-can-see-through-all" nature.

Byakugan is GREAT! 8)

By the way, What does "sharingan destroyer" is suppossed to mean? :lol:

[Lukasz]

i think it meant that sharingan cannot affect byakugan. any sharingan genjutsus would not affect byakugan.
i think hyuugas dont need light to see. hinata saw gaara from one mile but light reflected from gaara didnt hit her eyes. :) so it means that they dont need light to see.

[NarutoNineTails]

i think it meant that sharingan cannot affect byakugan. any sharingan genjutsus would not affect byakugan.
i think hyuugas dont need light to see. hinata saw gaara from one mile but light reflected from gaara didnt hit her eyes. :) so it means that they dont need light to see.

Huh? Hinata seeing garra from more than a mile? When did this take place?

[thompkinsbrian]

while they were taking the chunin exmaine and they ewere in the forest

[NarutoNineTails]

Gotcha

[Morpheus]

Yeap, I think many people doesn't remember that fact.

By the way, Narutoninetails, I apologize. I saw episode 84 again, and seeing carefullly how Itachi used "God of the Sun" (black fire) justu, he seemed to use his sharingan eyes. So you are probably right, it may be a bloodline limit. And because the illusion jutsu is called God of the Moon, and it is also a Sharingan power. We will soon see...

[NarutoNineTails]

Another person tried to test my memory about Hiashi's more advanced power of Intuition and failed...I'm 2 for 2! woohoo ;)

[NarutoNineTails]

Speaking of other Byakugan abilities, I wouldn't be surprised if Byakugan could allow a user to see through total darkness. Because is some type of psychic vision it probably can see things somehow without any light at all (chakra doesn't need to reflect light to be seen, so at least people could be seen). Needless to say, that could give a byakugan user a huge advantage in many shinobi situations.


Nice speculation. Makes sense to me.


Other thing I can speculate is that Byakugan cannot be fooled by many Genjutsus. I still don't understand why Sharingan can see genjutsu as chakra sources. I think Byakugan should see them the same way, or different somehow. Maybe some jutsus that affect your mind in a powerful way can't be countered, but at least it should give a great advantage against illusions because of its "I-can-see-through-all" nature.


I beat you to this idea. I already have several posts about this. ;)

Sharingan can copy jutus so they understand how the Genjutsu is performed. That is y genjutsu is useless against Sharingan.

The thing about mind altering jutsus is that, so far in the anime, it required eye contact. Oro's hypnosis jutsu used against Sasuke during the forest of death exam required eye contact. We already know that mangekyou and tsukuyomi require eye contact also. For Hyuuga, it is really easy for them to fight without making eye contact. They are taijutsu masters anyway. They could pick up fighting staring at one's feet like Gai very quickly even without the help of 359 vision.

[Frozenserpent]

Urgh... I thought Hiashi sensed his brother's intentions because of the seal.

[NarutoNineTails]

Maybe...but it was never mentioned during the explanation of the seal when Neji was having his flashback. Only things mentioned are that the seal allows damage to the brain by the head family to branch members w/ the seal and that the secrets of the byakugan disappears for those that die w/ the seal.

I think it is more likely that Hiashi's power of intuition caught what Hizashi was thinking. If you look at eps 51 or 52...Hizashi's byakugan "turns on" and Hiashi says something like "intention to kill?" and immediately starts the seal attack on branch families on Hizashi. Hiashi then says something like, "don't even think about such things in front me. Get out of here right now..."

[Morpheus]

Urgh... I thought Hiashi sensed his brother's intentions because of the seal.

You are the first person to say this, and I think you may be right. Maybe the caged bird seal was designed so Main Family Member could sense a bad intention from a Branch Family One.

Keyser, could you please correct the name of this topic?? It is BYAKUGAN

[NarutoNineTails]

If the bird seal also allows for better reading of branch member's intentions, it makes no sense to me that Hizashi would even think such a thing so near Hiashi when Hizashi knows he will be caught.

I think Hizashi believed he could get away w/ these thoughts because Hiashi wasn't looking at him and was preoccupied w/ training Hinata. He was obviously wrong.

I believe if it wasn't for the Hiashi's power of intuition, Hinata would have been successfully kidnapped by the lightning hero. Hiashi didn't look surprised nor was he even rushing when he stopped the kidnapping. The impression I got was that he knew what was transpiring and acted accordingly to what he sensed from his intuition.

[Morpheus]

It may be so. But I don't think Hizashi was calmed enough to act properly. It was a violent burst of rage he felt at that moment. When you get like that you are not thinking if you are going to be discovered, etc.

[Hakkeshou Kaiten]

i have to go with NNT on this one... cause neji is a smaller example of wat hiashi or even his father hizashi could do!

neji has more than once shown the prediction/divination capabilities of the byakugan... be it the dialogue with hinata b4 their fight or before the launch of the 64 strikes on naruto!

[Frozenserpent]

Nah all the divination I remember Neji doing was that "I'll beat you." And then some divination for Naruto which seems false.

...If he was a fortuneteller, I would have wanted my money back.

[NarutoNineTails]

It wasn't "fortune telling" to begin with. Not all zodiac related things falls under "fortune telling".

Neji mentioned something about being within his divination before launching his 64 strikes. It was successful too and all Naruto's chakra holes were closed. Neji just didn't realize there is one more huge chakra source for Naruto.

[HunterDylan]

What the didn't know they could do that....
:oops: hm*Can they also watch trough clothes :oops: Heheh :oops:

[NarutoNineTails]

They can easily see thru clothes if they wanted too.

[AWings]

ohh i wish i had those eyes hmm mabye i could kill someone with them hmm better think of a better plan

[Nine-Tails Possesed~]

I'd say he could probably Predict a movement easily with it!

[Anbu Neji]

Thats fkn spam little man, every1 knos that your just trying to get your posts up.

[Nine-Tails Possesed~]

Thats fkn spam little man, every1 knos that your just trying to get your posts up.

Are you refering to me?

[Raistlin]

Thats fkn spam little man, every1 knos that your just trying to get your posts up.

Are you refering to me?

Who cares. -.-